Mobula6 Hack to Get Longer Flight Times 🔥

[@AlbertKimTV]

FYI, if you want to skip the whole EMUflight install, you can upgrade to Betaflight 4.1.1 instead and use the JESC 48khz firmware however, the flight time is not as long as on EMUflight according to Patrick J. Clark (Project Mockingbird). He says he has tested both scenarios. Also, Betaflight 4.1 will be needed. If you got the first batch with 4.0.6, you'll need to upgrade to 4.1. You can get my BF 4.1.1 PIDs here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/moKYq5aMr92Ca6c

[@mikesullivan5851]

Are the pids in the description

[@AlbertKimTV]

Link to CLI dump (with PIDs) in the other video.

[@CrimsonGhostfpv]

I got mine last week from pyro and it has 3.5.7 too

[@Wildest_Wahoo]

Crimson Ghost - Same here from RDQ.

[@Marco92Z07]

I got it too on 3.5.7 and reflashed to 4.1 its a lot more stable and controllable on stock tune, now.

[@michaeljohnson6473]

It is a great time to be flying FPV micro brushless quads!! With this 48khz thing boosting flight times, plus the RPM filter has been the best improvement to betaflight yet!! For my micro's it has been anyways.. The quads I used to get 3 minutes on I am getting 4.5-5 minutes easy... Each one of those improvements is so huge.. They are once in a long time improvements, and they happened almost back to back... I love it...

[@MookMan]

Thanks Albert, just finished the emuflight setup and JESC, getting 4:30 from fresh batteries, fantastic. The only hiccups I hit were to make sure you flash the most up to date Emuflight software INCLUDING unstable releases (I know you said it but I didn't listen!) and after the update it would only bind in D16 mode, it was previously in D8. Thanks again, 3min flight time isn't quite enough :)

[@ProjectMockingbird]

btw, you can get longer flight times even using BF 4.1 on the Mob6, but in my testing, you get 15-30 seconds longer in emu with my tunes :) I also have BF configs for the TinyHawk S and Mob7 for this in the Project Mockingbird Facebook group. Emuflight is rad, but if you don't like it you can get great improvements in flight time in BF as well with JESC 48khz :)

[@MasafinaRacing]

So there's a proyect mokingbird for the tiny s already?

[@AlbertKimTV]

I think he is working on it.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

@@MasafinaRacing yup, well, a beta version people are testing...available right now in the Project Mockingbird Facebook Group

[@MasafinaRacing]

@@ProjectMockingbird mine is dead, I was about to buy another one but the announcement of the tinyhawk 2 change my path. I really love the tiny s but the tiny 2 address the problems im having with the S

[@mikej8940]

if my ESC reads s-h-90 do i keep it on that or put it to o-h-90 on my tiny hawk s for JESC

[@propbenderfpv8208]

I'm running JESC 48khz with RPM filtering Betaflight 4.1.1 on an original Tinyhawk. Gained over 30 seconds of indoor Acro flight time over the 24khz version, using the GNB 450 HV batteries.

[@mattiadibennardo3839]

Just tested the 48khz firmware of one of my whoops running 0703 22000 kv motors (which is the most inefficient setup that I have). I was getting 2.20 minutes flight time before. Now I get 3.20 minutes, very little battery sag and cool motors. On betaflight 4.06.

[@AlbertKimTV]

Yep, it helps many other setups...

[@vctrsone]

I just got my 19k mob6 out of the box, Im doing this mod with a version 2 mob 7 frame and gemfan 3 blade. Should be interesting.

[@gustavomolina3346]

How is it? After this time. Probably I will do this. Thanks

[@josephbove7477]

Fantastic work! Hopefully this will be the beginning of longer battery times for other quads. Thank for passing it along.

[@AlbertKimTV]

anytime

[@Reecefpv]

I think it's finally time for me to dive in esc settings and pwm frequencies this winter lol. Iv put it off for a couple years now. I literally never touch blheli ect. I just switch wires for motor direction if needed. But that's why I'm so excited about betaflight 4.3, we can now change it in bf config 🥳

[@AlbertKimTV]

Nice, go for it

[@BigDFPV]

Excellent info to all that where involved, thanks for passing it on to us Albert. Good stuff!

[@pokiou]

i dont know if its just me or not but i get about 3:30 to 4 minutes flight on my Snapper7 and my Eachine trashcan... im using 350mah batteries also.

[@gpo1237]

Hello Albert, I think your links are a little messed up. At least for the content of the video. You referred to the normal BLHeliSuite and the alternative Hex-Files for getting the rpm filtering for free from JazzMac. Unfortunately they don't have a 48khz PWM Mode (yet). You should IMHO link to the JESC and Emuflight configurators.

[@AlbertKimTV]

whoops... those are for RPM filter... got this video mixed up with another one... thanks for catching that!

[@1LittleTinker]

Many thanks Albert, said it before, but I'm loving the whoop innovation lately, thanks again for this vid, I'll try this or similar on my 0802 75mm 1s build

[@ruairim7551]

Using betaflight 4.1 and jesc firmware, got 4:30 on stock 300mAh batteries. Got 6m on the URAV 550mAh.

[@AlbertKimTV]

There's a 550mah stick battery?

[@ruairim7551]

@@AlbertKimTV nope, but rotate it 90 degrees and it fits with some rubber bands.

[@ripperfpv9880]

Well after a lot of messing and tweaking I have the mobula 6 jello the main problem is the props they are touching the ducts so shave off 0.2 mm off the props and bingo so I changed the foam to a less dense type 🤩🤪

[@diveflyfish]

Is the function of how this increases run time akin to.a Joule Ringer circuit? Are high amplitude spikes present on the output? Any chance you could see what is happening on the output via an oscilloscope? Fascinating stuff. Is there a spike that is being reflected back into the power supply? Thanks for sharing...... if there is, this is a phenomenal example of what is the tip of an iceberg.

[@AlbertKimTV]

I don't have an oscilloscope

[@OnepackFpv]

How do you go back to betaflight? Not loving emu. And not getting better flight times.

[@AlbertKimTV]

Just flash Betaflight. I have a video in the Betaflight playlist

[@cpt_Ruckus]

Are better flight times a result of using JESC? Or is emuflight required? Would love to squeeze a little more flight time out of my toothpick.

[@AlbertKimTV]

See my pinned comment for the answer

[@jhtapia]

@Albert - sorry to bug you but can you point me to Betaflight 4.1.x PIDs for the Mobula6. My goal is to stop relearning from scratch across many different Betaflight versions, ESP firmwware, etc. I've seen references to "Don Johnson PIDS" but I can't find them.

[@TheSomaSeeker]

I assume this same process can be used for the mobula6 HD version?... Thanks :)

[@Darksilverfpv]

With the 25000 kv version couldn't you just throttle scale down to the 19000 equivalent to get longer flight times? Easy to do on betaflight 4.1 but curious if that would work

[@AlbertKimTV]

It will work to some extent but you won't see gains as large as this because the change is in the ESC and better filtering on EMUflight.

[@davidwong5104]

When I flash it with jesc for some reason it just flips out, and when I reflash blheli I have to reconfigure in Betaflight to make it fly normal cuz it’ll just flip out still, how can I fix this, I really need more flightitme...

[@AlbertKimTV]

It sounds like a motor direction problem but I don't see why JESC would change that when you flash firmware. From what I remember it should not do that. The other possibility is that you've somehow flashed the wrong firmware target so it's mismatched.

[@sagienaicker2064]

Thanks Albert. Enjoy your reviews. Excellent content. You come across as knowledgeable and competent - with humility and respect for your viewers. I am about to buy a Mobula 6. Is the 25000kv motor version a better outdoor choice in a slight breeze, beginner FPV flying? Was going to settle for the 19000kv model but your hack has got me thinking 🤔

[@AlbertKimTV]

Just get the 25000kv version and if you want more flight time you can just upgrade the ESC to 48khz... However I'm not sure a beginner will notice the difference between the versions.

[@sagienaicker2064]

Albert Kim 🙏🏽

[@vctrsone]

It just suddenlly worked! I have no idea why but it connected and did its thing! I put the cli file on also! just one last question, Why is the video reciever getting so hot when plugged in?

[@AlbertKimTV]

It gets hot because it's on a small board together with the ESCs so the heat builds up quickly

[@고독한나무야]

What mAh battery do you use? When you fly drone ?

[@AlbertKimTV]

The once included with the mobula6... 300mah

[@adrianthrockmorton7557]

Can you get the increased flight times of flashing JESC while on BF 3.5.7 without upgrading to 4.1? Not interested in rpm filtering at the moment.

[@vctrsone]

Ok albert I have been battling this mob6 this entire time , wowuldnt connect, then my tx diodnt have enough channels (I went to the hobby store and bought a new is-6x flysky tx which fixed that). then the props were on wrong the thing flew upside down. Now i need to figure out why my quad is spinning hard core the entire time..I dont want to use trimming yet as I think i have something messed up in emuflight settings or the transmitter settings. Hard work trying to get your first brushless and first fpv quad going. (I had a bunch of brushed hubsan x4 clones I flew before this..so simple compared to this)

[@AlbertKimTV]

You probably have your channels mis-matched. I think that radio is AETR and you probably are using TAER

[@vctrsone]

​@@AlbertKimTV I got it all working now! I have had my first few flights and its so much faster than the hubsan clones haha. Its a handful I think now I need to toe it down a bit now as i get used to it. Ive been waiting so long for it to arrive I had this shopping list of mods.

[@johnharris2683]

Great video as always brother 👊 . Thanks !

[@yarnykh]

Thank you for your video. What is your opinion about the lowest safe voltage for 1S LiPo and Lipo HV battery?

[@AlbertKimTV]

It depends on the voltage sag. Sometimes it can go below 3v near the end of a flight but then recover back to 3.5v after landing. You want it to recover to 3.5v or above. If it recovers below that, it's not good for the battery.

[@jlarson42]

Very interesting and informative video. Thanks Albert 👍💖🤓

[@dougkresl7538]

I would be curious if there would be a greater or equal efficiency on BF 4.1 with RPM filtering and 48khz?

[@AlbertKimTV]

I think you'll need to pay for the JESC license at that point. I heard JazzMac is working on his version but not ready yet.

[@dougkresl7538]

@@AlbertKimTV I have no problem paying for the ESC software if it provides better performance. I have had good luck with RPM filtering on my 2.5 and 3 inch rigs. Haven't played with it on any of my whoops though.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

RPM didn't add or subtract any flight time in my tests with betaflight and even though I get slightly longer flights in Emu, it's mostly the 48khz JESC mode helping.

[@evFPV]

Works like a charm! thank you!

[@housinit]

Very interesting. Thanks Albert!

[@Blacksquadron]

Is this still relevant today to follow? Definitely looking to improve flight time on the provided 300mah mine came with.

[@AlbertKimTV]

48khz (and now 96khz) is used more now than ever before. Even many BNF models come preconfigured like this

[@SteveGergetz]

Thanks for the clever tip Albert. Have you posted an update video since then giving a better idea of the stability and or reliability of doing this procedure?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Still flying fine. However, I've moving on to testing RPM filter now. New video on that soon...

[@SteveGergetz]

@@AlbertKimTV one of the best things about you is that you always reply when we ask you a direct question in the comments. Thanks for that Bud.

[@michaeljohnson6473]

I have been using the J-ESC firmware with no issues on over ten micro's at this point..

[@kkam7044]

Hi Albert, do you suggest using reverse motor direction with whoops especially?

[@AlbertKimTV]

For this one... It depends on weight.

[@franklaw4807]

Hi Albert, can I use Jazzmaverick 48K esc firmware instead of Jesc 48K? Because with Jesc no licensed esc fireware, which does not have rpm filter.

[@AlbertKimTV]

Yes, but your results might be different. I have not tested that combo yet.

[@franklaw4807]

Albert Kim Thank you for your reply.

[@jappiemoto]

Why does it work for everyone but me i tried every thing and my tops is now 2 minutes and 30 seconds

[@rjredd]

hmmm tempted to keep the betaflight 4.1.1 on my beta65 pro 2s and try flashing the esc to enable 48khz, wonder if i could try notch filtering.

[@AlbertKimTV]

go for it!

[@rjredd]

@@AlbertKimTV And done, so far so good. fairly smooth flights. no major improvements on flight time but i am using betaflight nor emuflight.

[@startoftext]

​@@rjredd I had the same experience. betaflight 4.1.1 48khz and no better flight time. Did you try emu flight and see a difference?

[@engizmo]

I wonder how long the flight time would be on 0802 19000kv motors.

[@AlbertKimTV]

It's not as much of a difference. But I am getting 5:30 on my setup with BF4.1 and 48khz ESCs.

[@jpulliam1111]

@@AlbertKimTV I have a mobula6 with 1900kv motors on the way. Is the process done the same way?

[@jpulliam1111]

And would this work on a ur65 with 0703 1700kv motors. Because I am only getting 2min on it

[@tashiiwhite2151]

I deeply love your content ! Keep it up man 🔥 also what is the name of the song you used at the beginning ?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Sorry, I don't remember what I used there. Just some random song I grabbed somewhere. I didn't really like it so I trashed the file already.

[@SkyCandyVisuals]

thanks @albertkim for this video but it's gonna be pretty hard not to want to fly this lil bad boy in acro doing flips and rolls. so maybe ill wait till you guys figure out how to tune it for acro moves. or maybe if i feel comfortable ill try tuning myself. not sure. first i need to get it in the mail and try it out stock. im still waiting on mine from rdq:(

[@AlbertKimTV]

I'm going to try the new open source 48khz firmware and BF 4.1.1 with RPM filter so stay tuned for an update later...

[@SkyCandyVisuals]

@@AlbertKimTV thx❗

[@BimoWicaksono]

Hi Albert, I want to apply these hacks with my Mobula6 but before doing that, I want to upgrade my FC with betaflight 4.1 but I rather confused for crazybeef4 frysky, right now there's 2 firmware for betaflight 4.1 (Legacy & HAMO) which one is suitable & better for my mobuka6 ? thanks before

[@AlbertKimTV]

See my Betaflight 4.1 upgrade guide for an explanation but they are basically the same. Legacy will work for most people... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIGbaZafbtF9bNk

[@BimoWicaksono]

@@AlbertKimTV thanks 🙏

[@eddie_Za]

Can i do all of the jesc, emu, cli dump with mobula6 hd. Thanks

[@AlbertKimTV]

Should work the same but the PIDs might need adjusting because of the extra weight.

[@marksherman630]

I’m using my Mobula7 as an indoor flyer only on 1s. Will this work for that?

[@quincypurcell5222]

Yup it'll still work I think. Comment on UAVtech's comment to make sure tho

[@AlbertKimTV]

Yes, but you'll need to upgrade to BF 4.1

[@housinit]

Check out UAVTech's video from yesterday, he did it to his Mobula7.

[@marksherman630]

@@AlbertKimTV That's to enable the bi-directional add-on ($6) for RPM filtering (JESC), right? UAVTech below said we didn't need that, just the 48 khz JESC (and no EMU). Slightly confusing.

[@marksherman630]

@@housinit Thank you, that was very helpful!

[@OLEHFPV]

hey I got a mobula 6 and was trying to bind to my taranis x9d plus 2019 and it wouldent work since i have no D8 mode any ideas how to fix? do I need an external module?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Did you try d16 mode?

[@OLEHFPV]

@@AlbertKimTV no I only have ACCESS & ACCST D16 modes and I tried on that one and it doesnt bind

[@mikej8940]

Albert if my ESC reads s-h-90 do i keep it on that or put it to o-h-90 on my tiny hawk s for JESC

[@AlbertKimTV]

You have to match whatever it reads... if you use different firmware it won't work or it may damage your ESC or motor.

[@Wildest_Wahoo]

mike j Any improvement on the Tinyhawk?

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty interesting, Albert!!! 😃 Thanks a lot! Merry Christmas for you and your family! 😊 Just take care with Krampus. 😬

[@AlbertKimTV]

happy holidays!

[@mauricevieren]

Does ist also work for Mobula 6 HD version?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Yes

[@PadiwanFPV]

I get auto pitch forward in acro as if I were in angle mode, any suggestions on a fix?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Are you sure? Turn off the ACC and see if it still happens.

[@PadiwanFPV]

I tried that and adjusting The I value on the pitch pid. The only thing thats helping is subtrimming my tx. Some others on the mockingbird facebook are having the same problem. I feel like it’s some small cli adjustment in emu but not sure what I’m looking for.

[@PadiwanFPV]

Reflashed escs with Jesc 2.3, turned off acc and your fix worked, thank you

[@swfpv]

You are in ACRO training, turn off AIR and you are in ACRO.

[@RCOverKill]

From what Ive been reading the smaller the motor the better this works, is that true?

[@eskrace1104]

yup 👍

[@AlbertKimTV]

In general but not always.

[@startoftext]

Thanks for the info but this did not make much difference for me. I tried upgrading jesc to 2.3 48khz and I already have betaflight 4.1 on a mobula 6. I maybe went from about 2 to 2:30. I stop at about 3.10(v) with 3.6 (v) after landing. Also I do not get 80% of the mAh out of my batteries. Some batteries only about 100 mAh and others about 190 mAh. These are pretty new batteries also. I cant figure out whats happening. I would dream about 4 minute flight times. Maybe is something broken on my mobula 6?

[@AlbertKimTV]

I think you get more flight time in EMUflight over betaflight

[@startoftext]

@@AlbertKimTV Thanks for the response. Actually tonight I flew again tonight and had much better results. This could be atributed to one of 2 things. I replaced my propellers and I also realized that I was charging at 2c instead of 1c. The propellers were not that bad of shape. Maybe dirty and scuffed. On my gaoneng HV batteries I had a 4-4:30 flight time. Thanks

[@pksteffen]

Thanks for sharing!

[@matchewbacca]

Is this gonna work on a ur65 original an improve flight times too ?

[@AlbertKimTV]

I haven't tested that one yet. I think so, but I don't know for sure.

[@matchewbacca]

@@AlbertKimTV would be a game changer for our whoop class quads and possibly toothpicks too I mean who don't want more flight time 😁

[@stefanalexander1573]

The best improvement in flight time on the UR65 is throwing the 0603 motors in the bin and install 0802 motors. I was getting 2:30min flight times on 0603 motors. Now with 0802 19000kv i get consistent 3:30min flight times with a noticable jump in power aswell

[@matchewbacca]

@@stefanalexander1573 iv already done this mod for mine aswell but I still find more flight time a bonus

[@stefanalexander1573]

@@matchewbacca in theory it should give some sort of improvement. Give it a go! It doesn't cost anything and causes no harm to the quad. I'm certainly going to give it a try.

[@pitufolaiguana]

Hi Albert, I flashed my mobula6 yesterday and flew with no problems, but today I plugged a battery and now it wont arm... the initial beeps no longer play and neither the emu configurator nor BF configurator see it as a com port when plugged... what can I do?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Are all your original settings still there? I heard some boards getting reset randomly. Have you tried going back to Betaflight and stock ESC firmware?

[@vctrsone]

Right so I went through the guides and installed all the drivers, But it says bootloader failed. it also wont connect to beta flight or emu or anything. I had installed the drivers as needed and then I did the jesc config. then when I went to go into the emuflight config to do the flash it would not flash. Now im sure what ive done to it. Please send help..Im usually good with this kind of thing but I cant seem to get it to connect now. Zadig only sees my f4 fc and never sees STM32 BOOTLOADER so im unsure if this is why the bootloader fails? If theres a discord for this type of thing can you link me maybe i can just ask in there? It also keeps mentioning Chrome do i need to use chrome for this thing to work?

[@AlbertKimTV]

Have you tried to force the board into DFU mode? You hold down the bootloader button while plugging in the USB cable. It will be in DFU mode and should flash at that point.

[@vctrsone]

​@@AlbertKimTV Yes the port says succesfully opened and then says successfully closed. I am on windows 10. This is so confusing lol ive been all over the internet trying to figure this out. It connected to jesc and did that update..So it still wont show that I have the cp210 driver at all when i go in zadig I have no idea why. I also ran inpulse driver fixer on the board so i guess thats good. its also showing up on my computer as f4fc so it is connected I just cant get it to talk to any flight configurator now at all :( OOH i accidently changed the usb driver on the actual f4fc to the lastest windows driver this I guess could have broken it? I ran the uimpulse driver fixer after tho.gyazo.com/09163005d06fa1c54dc27ebab3e8b5d1 Got it to connect like this now again. Thank you so much in advance. Thought this would be a simple thing after watching your videos.

[@AlbertKimTV]

In DFU mode you won't get any messages other than the COM port showing it's in DFU mode. You can't connect to the board in DFU mode. You can only update the firmware to reflash it.

[@bereal1251]

Will this work for turbobee 66r?

[@AlbertKimTV]

I don't know... it probably can't hurt to try though

[@bereal1251]

@@AlbertKimTV I already have the jazz maverick 48khz flashed on my turbobee biodirectional enable can I just flash your cli dump using bf 4.1.1? Or do I need to install emu? Thanks for your input 👍 truly appreciate it 😊

[@mauricevieren]

How does it work with the Crossfire version. When I go to the EMUFlight Conf. and choose the board. After i flash it it shows "No response from the bootloader, programming: FAILED"

[@AlbertKimTV]

I only know how to do this on Betaflight. I don't fly anything with EMUflight.

[@mauricevieren]

So i did the firmware update in JESC Conf. do i also have to do the update in EMU? I don’t get it 🤯😂 drone is still only flying 1,5 minutes

[@AlejanPa]

Did anyone try this in the us65 / ur65 ?

[@AlbertKimTV]

ESC firmware is different... New ones just came out.

[@AlejanPa]

@@AlbertKimTV cool thank you 😄

[@BillMRC]

Hi Albert, why did you have to screw everything up with this ?? The 25000kv is supposed to be about performance and I have yet to see a good stock tune.

[@jesselopezdrones4396]

Awesome 👏

[@amianantech6298]

This is great

[@ConsuelaNewman]

Your flying is insane is that flying footage real if so when I get to that level I'm going to start racing professional

[@mikej8940]

will this work on a tinyhawk s im only getting 2and1/2 min on stock battery 1s

[@AlbertKimTV]

I have heard it will

[@boomboomtradingroom9646]

@@AlbertKimTV dang, between this on the mobula 6 and on the tiny hawk s, many these whoops get my jacked up! Question - if it works on tiny hawk S, would it still benefit when running on 2s?

[@ProjectMockingbird]

yup...I have a betaflight version of PMB with it on the Project Mockingbird Facebook group :) I am getting over 3 minutes now on 2s and motors and batteries are much cooler.

[@mikej8940]

@@ProjectMockingbird just put your tune on my s HA HA will try this next

[@vaguedirector_7342]

BlHeli_S has version 16.76 with 48KHz support. I've installed it and done a 10 second test flight on both my sailfly-x and tinyhawk 1S. Works great and almost seems to produce quieter motors (more testing needed). Can't confirm flight time differences yet as I haven't tested that far. Also this is without upgrading to betaflight 4.1.1 or emuflight. Github link with the hex files: github.com/JazzMaverick/BLHeli/tree/JazzMaverick-patch-1 (Note: you need to find the correct hex file for the esc,. Match the firmware filename code eg: "S_H_50" to the one listed for the esc in blheli configurator.) RcGroups discussion: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2640796-BLHeli_S-Smooth-as-Silk/page364

[@AlbertKimTV]

Yeah, I have a video on this coming out soon. I installed the bad 16.75 firmware and got death rolls however. it should be noted, this is still highly experimental.

[@shenanigan3083]

Or order the 1900kv motors

[@AlbertKimTV]

This gives you the benefit of 19000kv motors with better performance when you need it

[@nerdCopter]

+1👍 Emu Emu EMu EmU, all the Emu's #EmuClub

[@HaveFaithInGod]

Since this is a better flight setup, why don't they just sell it this way? Grrr!

[@AlbertKimTV]

I think they actually do now.

[@queenmichellelainejoyness3108]

give awayy

[@AlbertKimTV]

The Mobula6 is a keeper! I bought another!