Modern Horizons 3 Spoilers: Eldrazi Mulldrifter, Free Counter, One-Drop Goyf and More!

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MTGGoldfish

Күн бұрын

Modern Horizons 3 spoilers were supposed to kick off on May 21 but thanks to a bunch of leaks Wizards officially spoiled a ton of cards early including callbacks to iconic cards like Mulldrifter, Recurring Nightmare and Tarmogoyf, a new free counter, a new Sol land and so much more! The set looks absurd, let's break it all down!
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0:00 Start
1:29 Flare of Denial
6:37 Ugin's Labyrinth
10:52 Chthonian Nightmare
13:19 Wight of the Reliquary
17:56 Nulldrifter
20:14 Herigast, Erupting Nullkite
23:32 Phelia, Exuberant Shepherd
26:39 Kudo, King Among Bears
30:13 Nethergoyf
33:40 Winter Moon
38:47 Meltdown
39:58 Kappa Cannoneer
41:17 Orim's Chant
44:50 Sylvan Safekeeper
47:01 Urza's Cave
49:03 Null Elemental Blast
50:09 Commander Cards
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@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 25 күн бұрын
Apparently Corgis are Shepherds. Carry on, Wizards, carry on.
@joelhoskins2066
@joelhoskins2066 25 күн бұрын
Phwew, that was close
@GenesisAkaG
@GenesisAkaG 25 күн бұрын
Shepherd is a profession. Don't make fun of the friendly corgi, he's a professional (sheep? anything blinkable?) herder.
@arghanothername
@arghanothername 25 күн бұрын
They sort of are. Corgis are herding dogs. Mostly for cattle, but also sheep.
@TheREALIzludez
@TheREALIzludez 25 күн бұрын
I'm fairly certain that an entity that herds animals is a shepherd as well. A dog that is enthusiastic about herding is not out of the realm of possibility here either.
@Botanick13
@Botanick13 25 күн бұрын
Yeah Corgis are sheep herding dogs, It is actually really fun to see them at work because of how small they are and how cute they look while working
@bensteinhauser784
@bensteinhauser784 25 күн бұрын
I'm gobsmacked that Seth managed to pronounce Chthonian Nightmare.
@zcrazy1668
@zcrazy1668 25 күн бұрын
Omg, gol- Gary? Scion of drAHco? I friggen can’t with the way he pronounces shit, gotta watch with no sound and subs lol
@EnderLord99
@EnderLord99 25 күн бұрын
@@zcrazy1668 Bugler Rat
@user-hy8zv8rw1m
@user-hy8zv8rw1m 21 күн бұрын
@@zcrazy1668You and the rest of the world. His voice drives me up the wall.
@latinojackson9694
@latinojackson9694 4 күн бұрын
Yet he mispronounced "safekeeper"
@123silverslash
@123silverslash 25 күн бұрын
Corgi’s are herding dogs, so they are indeed shepards!
@Cameron-ds9xs
@Cameron-ds9xs 25 күн бұрын
If I was a sheep I would not respect a corgi
@_Mythic777_
@_Mythic777_ 25 күн бұрын
Did not know that, nice!
@michaelcollins4534
@michaelcollins4534 25 күн бұрын
​@@Cameron-ds9xs you would learn
@matthewdaley4403
@matthewdaley4403 25 күн бұрын
Former corgi owner, can confirm.
@MakotoAbsol451
@MakotoAbsol451 25 күн бұрын
The other way to look at Chthonian Nightmare is if you are only resurrecting 3-mana or less creatures, you don't need any other type of energy production since the Nightmare will make all you need each time you play it.
@zacharymccutcheon8607
@zacharymccutcheon8607 25 күн бұрын
resurrect a 2 mana creature, then you have 4 for the next one. resurrect a 1 mana creature and you can get a 5 mana creature. It can be positive on its own.
@ShooterSF
@ShooterSF 25 күн бұрын
And it meets Lurrus' deck requirements to play it :D
@Archflip
@Archflip 25 күн бұрын
Free infinite Ornithopter/Memnite etb's?
@luckyduck4084
@luckyduck4084 25 күн бұрын
@@Archflip1b to cast tho
@UltimateLinkXD
@UltimateLinkXD 25 күн бұрын
Just resurrect a Dockside that will make you at least 2 treasure and have a free sac outlet to net 1 energy and any additional treasure if 3 or more are made by Dockside each time as you loop Dockside. You can also do this with a second Dockside or a Patron of the Arts in place of the free sac outlet. Patron of the Arts makes this work in commander since it will create 2 treasures to recast Chthonian Nightmare, but requires one mana available when starting the loop unlike the 2 Dockside and the free sac outlet versions.
@Cruzer50143
@Cruzer50143 25 күн бұрын
Who else went looking for this video when Tomer shared it in the commander spoiler video
@newworldsound
@newworldsound 25 күн бұрын
🙋🏼‍♂️
@guywitastache451
@guywitastache451 25 күн бұрын
I was watching like 30 mins after drop I’m like where tf
@tmbocheeko
@tmbocheeko 25 күн бұрын
Yawgmoth has protection from humans, Seth! No shroud for the eugenicist!
@makhina8839
@makhina8839 25 күн бұрын
Winter Moon is not competing with Blood Moon. It’s for all non red decks and I love it
@daredaemon8878
@daredaemon8878 14 күн бұрын
Winter Moon also works with Blood Moon if you really want to commit. Blood Moon turns the Non-Basics into Mountains, it doesn't turn them into basic lands.
@PhetaFox
@PhetaFox 25 күн бұрын
I don't believe snapcaster works with flare of denial. Flashback is an alternate cost, the sac-a-blue is an alternate cost. You can only pay one alternate at a time.
@metatron8578
@metatron8578 25 күн бұрын
Yes, it definitely doesn't work the way he described. It might still be good to have Snapcaster in a Flair deck though, since you can still sac him when casting from the hand.
@Buych778
@Buych778 25 күн бұрын
Ha, just posted this same correction, glad I'm not the only one who caught this...
@polbulanosalto7403
@polbulanosalto7403 25 күн бұрын
This is not true. The ability on flare of denial is just a way to pay the casting cost, not an alternative cost. To demonstrate: Conspiracy Unraveler, which uses the same wording as Flare, does let you collect evidence while paying a flashback cost.
@laurelkeeper
@laurelkeeper 25 күн бұрын
@@polbulanosalto7403that is blatantly false. Alternate payment mechanics would be things like Delve or Convoke, but neither Flare or Conspiracy Unraveler work in this way, and they never have. You can read the rulings on Unraveler if it’s not abundantly clear.
@mattiacamusso7917
@mattiacamusso7917 25 күн бұрын
​@@polbulanosalto7403collecting evidence is an additional cost, not an alternative cost
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 25 күн бұрын
Note about chthonian nightmare: recurring nightmare is broken because you can hold priority, bounce it, and never let the opponent respond. Chthonian has an etb trigger, so this doesn't work.
@daneburke6592
@daneburke6592 25 күн бұрын
It also says activate as a sorcery for even more chances to respond
@r4g1ngph03n1x
@r4g1ngph03n1x 25 күн бұрын
​@@daneburke6592Recurring Nightmare is also only as a sorcery.
@bensteinhauser784
@bensteinhauser784 25 күн бұрын
​@@r4g1ngph03n1xThe point is, after reoccurring nightmare lands on the battlefield, you have priority to activate it, so unless an opponent has a counter spell, they won't have a chance to interact with it directly.
@hanschristopherson8056
@hanschristopherson8056 25 күн бұрын
I was worried for a brief second before I saw the trigger
@saltyBANDIT
@saltyBANDIT 25 күн бұрын
Players: “im kind of worried about power creep” WOTC: *hits blunt* *releases modern horizons*
@joeferreti9442
@joeferreti9442 25 күн бұрын
I don't get why WotC keeps making Modern Horizons sets. MTG never really recovered from MH2.
@sekpom2522
@sekpom2522 25 күн бұрын
It sells well?
@DragonAttack515
@DragonAttack515 25 күн бұрын
Go play Pioneer. Please.
@jerryturgin6583
@jerryturgin6583 25 күн бұрын
@@DragonAttack515 I mean pioneer isn't the same as modern, and I refuse to play the format where they arbitrarily decided fetchlands are too good now
@talamran7499
@talamran7499 25 күн бұрын
seth looking at necrogoyf: "we never had a one drop with 3 power in modern before so I don't know how to evaluate this" meanwhile wild nacatl being in the format from the very beginning and delver existing too
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 24 күн бұрын
He meant a black one drop
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 24 күн бұрын
​​@@AdmiralVortexDeath Shadow??? Edit: Death Shadow doesn't have 3 power on turn 1
@aLocalGuy312
@aLocalGuy312 25 күн бұрын
flashing back flare of denial and saccing it to snapcaster doesnt work as you cant pay alternative cost with snapcaster
@MrAndre456
@MrAndre456 25 күн бұрын
this
@hermesthenerd9967
@hermesthenerd9967 25 күн бұрын
"there are no cool zombie lands" seth! you JUST mentioned field of the dead! a land that LITERALLY makes zombies!
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 25 күн бұрын
Its good, not cool. Important difference.
@MidgarMerc
@MidgarMerc 25 күн бұрын
It's also banned in like most formats
@qubingjianshen8210
@qubingjianshen8210 25 күн бұрын
Ugin's Labyrinth is also protecting your endgame bomb from being targeted by discard spells, as you can keep it safe under the land untill you intend to cast it.
@joeferreti9442
@joeferreti9442 25 күн бұрын
I destroy your tapped Ugin's Labyrinth.
@burnsboy101
@burnsboy101 25 күн бұрын
@@joeferreti9442forgot every deck runs land destruction
@joe.5103
@joe.5103 25 күн бұрын
Make Fulminator good again 😂
@qubingjianshen8210
@qubingjianshen8210 25 күн бұрын
@@joeferreti9442 If its tapped, it means that it has ramped me two mana into a threat that you did not awnser since you focused on removing the land.
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 25 күн бұрын
Winter moon is a teaching tool for commander play groups. This card is a reminder that basic lands are important, and will never be completely supplanted by more complicated lands. And it helps your playgroup be more budget friendly
@BlakeFaeMorton
@BlakeFaeMorton 25 күн бұрын
Lol no. Cheap Commander manabases get punished by Winter Moon x1000 harder than Pain Lands + Duals. And playing basics makes good decks unplayable. Plus, there are way, way, way more basic land hate cards in Commander. No one plays them bc they are too mean.
@notapplicable6985
@notapplicable6985 25 күн бұрын
​@@BlakeFaeMortonhow? Basics are playable in most decks
@BlakeFaeMorton
@BlakeFaeMorton 25 күн бұрын
@@notapplicable6985 It's a 99 card format. If I have a card with even two pips of the same color in a tricolor deck basics are going to cause mana screw way too often. Sure, they are mostly playable in two color and are obviously fine in monocolor. But absolutely not in 3+.
@ConManAU
@ConManAU 25 күн бұрын
Winter Moon does punish decks with lots of dual lands and triomes. On the other hand, it doesn’t impact: Lands with ongoing effects (Glacial Chasm) Landfall and other ETB triggers (Field of the Dead, Nissa) Combos that win in a single turn and don’t expect to need another untap step So it’s punishing, but I don’t see it as being a complete lock-out of non-basics in Commander
@BlakeFaeMorton
@BlakeFaeMorton 25 күн бұрын
@@ConManAU By budget decks I mean Scrylands. Of course it does punish Duals, but casual manabases get absolutely destroyed since they enter tapped.
@dyne313
@dyne313 25 күн бұрын
Winter Moon should be allowed in Commander. You should be face some adversity if you build a super greedy mana base.
@deathbat93rn
@deathbat93rn 25 күн бұрын
I can always agree to fucking over the 3+ color greed piles
@stephenhousman6975
@stephenhousman6975 25 күн бұрын
There are some spicy prison pieces for my Thada Adel cEDH deck.
@ericvernon1182
@ericvernon1182 25 күн бұрын
Why do you think its not?
@burnsboy101
@burnsboy101 25 күн бұрын
@@ericvernon1182watch the video
@scaredycat3146
@scaredycat3146 25 күн бұрын
My Etali deck runs all the sun and moon cards it can, I'll add this for sure.
@biostem
@biostem 25 күн бұрын
Winter Moon is 100% fair game. Something has to contend with the arms race of non-basic power creep in an acceptable way, and it makes mana base construction far more interesting by prioritizing basics. EDH needs Winter Moon, and a fair few more soft non-basic answers in a similar power tier.
@BloodyEvening
@BloodyEvening 25 күн бұрын
A recurring nightmare made just for Lurrus? Yes please.
@satansamael666
@satansamael666 25 күн бұрын
Also loops Dockside for infinite and a lot more easily than any other way currently possible.
@evankraabel5415
@evankraabel5415 25 күн бұрын
Yes, my biggest problem in modern has always been my opponents blocking my 2/2s with their emrakul...
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 25 күн бұрын
Don’t worry, Seth. I was also confused by how the corgi was bred to be herding dogs but apparently they do. Who knew being stubby actually helps them herd cows better since they’re too short to get kicked and are surprisingly more agile than taller dogs
@TheyCallMeDio
@TheyCallMeDio 25 күн бұрын
It is a scientific fact that the potato doggos are aerodynamic
@PhetaFox
@PhetaFox 25 күн бұрын
Elder deep fiend was in beans during its height. You could flash in solitude on their upkeep, then sac it to flash in deep fiend and basically time walk your opponent while shooting a creature and drawing 2-8 cards
@collinbeal
@collinbeal 25 күн бұрын
I just crafted it on Arena yesterday, and we know Solitude is a Special Guest. I can't wait to try this in Brawl hehe.
@OODZUTSU
@OODZUTSU 25 күн бұрын
27:57 Would Kudo make the Death Shadow a 2/2 with -X/-X and kill it?
@sierranevada4601
@sierranevada4601 25 күн бұрын
yes
@MakeVarahHappen
@MakeVarahHappen 25 күн бұрын
It's important to remember that because it has a enters-the-battlefield ability, Chthonian Nightmare can be interacted with before you can bounce it back because the etb has to resolve before you can do anything with it, even if you have the energy you need.
@jerryturgin6583
@jerryturgin6583 25 күн бұрын
unless you already had energy, and if you have already used it once or twice on a 1-2 mana creature it might be too late
@MakeVarahHappen
@MakeVarahHappen 25 күн бұрын
@@jerryturgin6583 No. Even then it can be removed in response to the trigger. As long as you could pay the cost on the original Recurring Nightmare, no one could ever touch it. That's what makes it recurring.
@laytonjr6601
@laytonjr6601 24 күн бұрын
​@@jerryturgin6583you can only activate it at sorcery speed so if your opponent decided to destroy it in response to the trigger it's dead
@FirstnameLastname-ju7em
@FirstnameLastname-ju7em 25 күн бұрын
44:50 Sylvan Safecreature lmao
@Fanverleon
@Fanverleon 25 күн бұрын
flare of denial and snapcaster doesn't work. the flashback is equal to the mana cost and you can only pay one alternative cost with flashback only being the only one that lets you cast from graveyard
@123silverslash
@123silverslash 25 күн бұрын
I think he was saying that a deck that runs snapcaster could use it because you can sac the snapcaster to flare of denial, not cast flare of denial with snapcaster from the grave
@neros_soren
@neros_soren 25 күн бұрын
@@123silverslash "you can flash back Flare of Denial and sack the Snapcaster TO the Flare of Denial". If he meant what you are putting forward, he definitely did NOT articulate it, and because it's an info dump, people might take his word for it, no matter if that's what he meant or not.
@jonathanforsum5357
@jonathanforsum5357 25 күн бұрын
This is incorrect. Flare’s is not an alternative cost, it’s an alternative way to pay said costs. Compare it to delve or conspiracy unraveler.
@cdominguez95
@cdominguez95 25 күн бұрын
​@@jonathanforsum5357 the notes for Conspiracy Unraveler say, in part, "If you cast a spell for another cost 'rather than pay its mana cost', you can’t choose to cast it for any alternative costs."
@TehSeksyManz
@TehSeksyManz 25 күн бұрын
Flash Snap, with ETB on the stack, cast Flare sac the Snap, and then flashback a bolt or whatever else from the yard. That it still good value.
@michaelsparks1571
@michaelsparks1571 25 күн бұрын
Something that could be tried with Phelia is in a Stacks deck blinking cards like High Noon to break symmetry. Attack and exile it so you can cast all your spells, then return it to put the brakes back on for opponents' turns. Also something I'm not sure you caught that may also hint at Veteran Explorer coming later in the set: On winter moon, the flavor text's speaker is titled "veteran explorer".
@jekanyika
@jekanyika 25 күн бұрын
Richard won't like Winter Moon
@collinbeal
@collinbeal 25 күн бұрын
Lol got'em. I love how the comment section was overwhelmingly for MLD if it meant punishing Richard for playing nonbasics in mono-Black 😂😂😂
@thetrinketmage
@thetrinketmage 25 күн бұрын
Doesn't Yawg have protection from humans? So safekeeper can't target him!
@vOid-tl3tj
@vOid-tl3tj 25 күн бұрын
i don't think you can sack snapcaster to cast flare of denial for free with flashback, since flashback is already an alternate cost, meaning you can't use the other aleternate cost on the card
@dudemaister18
@dudemaister18 25 күн бұрын
Doesn't flare of denial make thassa's oracle even better? You can just pitch the oracle once it ETBs if they try to disrupt your combo right?
@brandandixon3943
@brandandixon3943 25 күн бұрын
seems like a good niche use. when would it be good looking at thoracle cedh list besides then? wouldnt a silence before comboing be way better.
@dudemaister18
@dudemaister18 25 күн бұрын
​​@@brandandixon3943 I was also thinking legacy "Oops all spells" but tbh I'm not as familiar with what the deck would cut However I feel that flare makes last second blowouts harder since if you have it in your hand, you're pretty safe after you Balustrade Spy, you get your 4 Narcomaebas, cast Dread Return with flashback and still have one to sacrifice to it if your opponent tries to counter the DR I've seen these decks getting blown out last second with a stifle and this card makes it seem like that'd be at least a bit harder
@brandandixon3943
@brandandixon3943 25 күн бұрын
@@dudemaister18 would this literally be the same as pact of negation in that deck? But has extra steps?
@dudemaister18
@dudemaister18 25 күн бұрын
@@brandandixon3943 I think so but for some reason the lists I've seen don't play pact, but do play one force of negation. As I said I'm not super familiar with it so I don't know if it'd be worth to switch the force for one of this since it also works on your turn and you still have 4 forces in the main deck, and since the deck mulligans aggresively I'd figure flare is better than an option that 2 for 1's yourself
@NightKev
@NightKev 25 күн бұрын
45:50 - Unfortunately, Sylvan Safekeeper can't target Yawgmoth because it has Protection from Humans.
@Jim_Owen
@Jim_Owen 25 күн бұрын
Flare has the advantage of being casts for free on your own turn which gives combo players interaction Beware using Kudo against Urza Saga tokens
@josephwalters2692
@josephwalters2692 25 күн бұрын
Hahaha! Orim's chant and isochron sceptre. That takes me back. I have been hoping for a long time for a modern legal reprint of that card.
@jamescooley5241
@jamescooley5241 25 күн бұрын
Seth Cthonian Nightmare doesn't need to be played in energy decks. It gives you 3 energy on etb so it works as long as you only get 3 or less drops. I think the card is way stronger in modern than you gave it credit for. A 2 mana recurring nightmare (even one that gets 3 cmc or less) is really broken.
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 25 күн бұрын
3 cmc or less on the first go
@ericmilligan6603
@ericmilligan6603 25 күн бұрын
Seth: correctly pronounces Chthonian Also Seth: "Retreat to Coralham"
@dantehidemark1397
@dantehidemark1397 25 күн бұрын
You can Evoke a Subtlety and sac that to Flare of Denial if you want to get rid of two spells at once, don't know why you would but it's possible at least.
@midnalight6419
@midnalight6419 25 күн бұрын
Winter moon is absolutely fair game in commander In pure casual, this does nothing But if the playgroup runs more optimized decks, they should be ready for this. If you are worried about this card, play more interaction, and a more diverse manabase.
@WhammeWhamme
@WhammeWhamme 25 күн бұрын
Seth, why not evaluate Chthonian as "recurring nightmare for 3 drops"? It spots you the first three energy for free....
@cablefeed3738
@cablefeed3738 25 күн бұрын
More than that, you can pay 0 energy sac A creature and get Driad Arbor and return nightmare to your hand. Or any creature that costs 1 or 2 and build up your energy.
@inkarozu2309
@inkarozu2309 25 күн бұрын
I was on the fence on Flare of Denail, but that amazing bordlerless art version sold me!
@strika234
@strika234 25 күн бұрын
you actually can't use sylvan safekeeper on yawg, it has protection from humans
@danilzashikhin3591
@danilzashikhin3591 25 күн бұрын
4:00 you can't sacrifice snapcaster for flare of denial if it got flashback and you are going to cast it from the graveyard this way
@totalcoward
@totalcoward 25 күн бұрын
Spawn Gang Commander is an example of Devoid actually mattering on a card. Can get around pro red to ping off creatures
@maguszanin5296
@maguszanin5296 25 күн бұрын
One thing I haven't seen anyone else cover about the new Recurring Nightmare is that it goes infinite with Priest of Gix and any sac outlet.
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 25 күн бұрын
A sac outlet... Like Cthonian Nightmare? 👀
@aaronfreeman8252
@aaronfreeman8252 25 күн бұрын
​@@AdmiralVortexPlus corpse Knight for infinite life loss
@alex_lian
@alex_lian 25 күн бұрын
Yawg can’t be targeted by Safekeeper
@vulcanh254
@vulcanh254 25 күн бұрын
I think Seth is misunderstanding the Nightmare card. Energy doesn't matter, it itself makes 3 energy. So you can just keep reanimating 3 drops for 2 mana. It's basically the best version of 2 mana "unearths" we've seen. Which could be strong enough for modern tbh. The fact that it's repeatable makes it quite scary in any Mentor shell. Energy creatures don't create a loop because you will always need to recast Nightmare. All Virtuoso does is go from 3 to 6 energy which means the next time you cast Nightmare you can reanimate a 6 drop for 2 mana. The only way to create a loop would be if there was a black Burning-Tree Emissary. Like Priest of Gix. You can also use a discard outlet for Nightmare + Renegade Rallier to bring back Nightmare.
@vulcanh254
@vulcanh254 25 күн бұрын
Actually, can you reanimate the creature you sac? I'm not 100% sure because it's possible you need the target already in the graveyard as you are activating it.
@jekanyika
@jekanyika 25 күн бұрын
That what's what I thought, it doesn't need energy to loop.
@bobboberson8297
@bobboberson8297 25 күн бұрын
@@vulcanh254 you declare targets before you pay costs in magic, so you cannot reanimate the creature you sacrifice
@vulcanh254
@vulcanh254 25 күн бұрын
@@bobboberson8297 Right, I'm always confused because Blood for Bones can reanimate the creature you sacced, but that's because Blood for Bones doesn't target. It makes you choose a creature.
@jerryturgin6583
@jerryturgin6583 25 күн бұрын
This card means that without exile removal, 2 removal spells, or a counterspell, you can never, EVER, get rid of bowmaster because you can sac the token to get it back, then it makes another token.
@stonerainproductions
@stonerainproductions 25 күн бұрын
My favorite moment with Orim's chant was when it was in Standard and mana burn was still a thing. I was playing a W/X deck with Chant and my mono B opponent was mana screwed. After five or so turns with one mana, I see his face light up and then he casts Dark Ritual. In response, I cast Orim's Chant and his smile turned to a frown and asked "Does that mean I take three mana burn?". I nodded and tried not to rub it in, but it was pretty satisfying at the time. The game was basically over after that and I'm reminded by something Seth says, "Fun is zero sum".
@DonovanPresents
@DonovanPresents 25 күн бұрын
44:00 that's how I felt when I found grafdigger's cage back in the day because he played an all-in zombie infestation reanimator deck.
@Junogray
@Junogray 25 күн бұрын
having commander decks that even do 2 colors, winter moon feels like it has so much potential that my playgroups are very likely to outright ban that before it even releases. too often later into games it can be a multi turn spell, you go to take your turn later in the game and most of your opponents have nearly all their lands tapped doing whatever fun stuff they wanted, but you drop this and suddenly they go from having 7~9 mana for their turn to just a few for several turns unless they have an answer right away, if you are tapped out with non-basics and have an answer you might need to wait multiple turns to do anything, unless of course the existence of this means most fun 3, 4 or 5 color decks just get hosed from now on and people play with mostly basics to fight against this and bloodmoon like effects
@Buych778
@Buych778 25 күн бұрын
Cthonian Nightmare goes infinite with Dockside really easily, infinite energy and treasure with 3+ artifact/enchantment count...
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 25 күн бұрын
Infinite treasures needs 5 artifacts/enchantments most of the time, you can't get the creatures you're sacrificing, so you have to get something else and recast the Nightmare
@matterhorn731
@matterhorn731 25 күн бұрын
Ugin's Labyrinth also seems like a strong way to protect your big bomby colorless threat from hand attack. Turn 1, play a land and tuck the threat away in exile to get some temporary ramp, then put it back in your hand on the end step before you can untap and cast it normally.
@I_Punch_Demons
@I_Punch_Demons 24 күн бұрын
The wight of reliqury. So you have turn 1 elf ramp. Turn 2 get grizzly salvage or Satyr Wayfinder or some discard spell putting bloodghast in graveyard. Then turn 3 play the enchantment. turn 4 play wight of the reliquary with counter back up. You have a turn 4 inf mana. then use chord of calling to get craterhoof out.
@thedylanquant3218
@thedylanquant3218 25 күн бұрын
Chthonian Nightmare makes infinite mana with dockside on 5 and infinite sac/reanimate with dockside on 4 in commander. Just need any creature in grave that’s 3MV or less. Just be ready if you see any Rakdos color decks.
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 25 күн бұрын
4 MV or less*
@thedylanquant3218
@thedylanquant3218 25 күн бұрын
@@AdmiralVortex It’s MV equal to energy and it only gives 3 energy so you can only get a MV3 or less.
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 25 күн бұрын
@@thedylanquant3218 Dockside costs 2, netting you one energy every time. So yes, you can loop it with a 4-drop
@thedylanquant3218
@thedylanquant3218 24 күн бұрын
@@AdmiralVortex But to start it you need a 3 Drop so it only starts with a 3 drop.
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 24 күн бұрын
@@thedylanquant3218 Why would you need a 3-drop to start?
@TransformersBoss
@TransformersBoss 25 күн бұрын
Phelia can permanently exile a Karnstruct when it attacks
@pedromollo479
@pedromollo479 25 күн бұрын
And Rhinos
@ThePossibilitiesOf
@ThePossibilitiesOf 25 күн бұрын
I disagree with your evaluation of Chthonian Nightmare. Since it give you three energy already and returns to your hand as part of the cost, it can be used to loop the best 3 drops in the game easily in a graveyard deck. In addition the combo potential for this card is rediculous as all it takes to go infinite is 2 creatures that give you in total 4 or more mana (Priest of Gix, Priest of Urabrask, Cathodian, Burning Tree Emissary, etc., or haste enablers and things that tap for mana). I this cards is at least going to make a fun deck if not a very powerful one.
@AdmiralVortex
@AdmiralVortex 25 күн бұрын
Just be careful of the black mana cost
@redstonepro5412
@redstonepro5412 25 күн бұрын
I think chtonian nightmare realistically will just be used with the three energy on etb, and looping small creatures with it still seems quite powerful. Edit: for the retreat to coralheim combo bloodghast can just be replaced with field of the dead, which makes this really a 2 card combo.
@thejesteramongfools
@thejesteramongfools 25 күн бұрын
Chthonian Nightmare seems like it could be good with a 0 drop creature as 2 mana generate 3 energy loop. Play Ornithopter for 0 drop this for 2 get 3 energy pay 0 energy sac the ornithopter return to hand the nightmare and get the thopter. If I am thinking about the rules you may need a thopter in the grave to start this as the target but black energy battery lol
@FatboiDiscgolf
@FatboiDiscgolf 25 күн бұрын
Winter Moon is going to be Tasty in Mono-White Marytr.. I love it..
@TrabensTomes
@TrabensTomes 23 күн бұрын
Ugin's Labyrinth is also allowing you to hide a powerful card in a zone that has very little interaction and behind a land card, which are not heavily targeted in a lot of formats.
@ashdog9235
@ashdog9235 25 күн бұрын
13:00 I think the one think in it’s favor is you can get smaller things and slowly get energy you need another thing but I don’t think you need a ton of
@micha623
@micha623 25 күн бұрын
I love Orim's Chant. I played extended Psychatog in that time. 4 Scepters maindeck (also fantastic witch Counterspell and Fire/Ice), 3 Cunning Wishes and 1 Orim's Chant in sideboard :D My favourite deck EVER
@qubingjianshen8210
@qubingjianshen8210 25 күн бұрын
Regarding Flare of Denial, i think its best to think of it as turning any of your opponents spell into an edict instead. If you think of it like that, then you understand that its useless to cast it for free against an opponent edict, and you have that as a floor. You will only cast it for free if you would prefer geting edicted rather then allowing their spell to resolve. This means that it is worse as a free counterspell compared to other free counterspell if you are trying to protect a creature from a removal spell. That been said, i can think of plenty of decks that would still be happy to play this card.
@robpetrie6486
@robpetrie6486 25 күн бұрын
i am definetly trying winter moon in my kinnan commander deck
@Dot_Eleven
@Dot_Eleven 25 күн бұрын
I love Insidious Roots and I know the less in a combo the better, but Wight of the Reliquary + Gravecrawler + Insidious Roots + Tyvar with any repeatable sac outlet is infinite plant tokens with infinite +1/+1 counters on them. Of course all except the last one will enter tapped since you're using the mana from them to cast gravecralwer, but if you have MULTIPLE Insidious roots...
@Mattrekie
@Mattrekie 25 күн бұрын
Seth says theres no super cool zombie lands shortly after mentioning field of the dead 😅
@jerryturgin6583
@jerryturgin6583 25 күн бұрын
4:00 you can't cast flare for the alternate cost off of snapcaster for the same reason you can't do so with force of will, you are casting it from the grave using an alternate cost. it doesn't just let you cast the spell, it gives it flashback equal to it's mana cost, which means you MUST still pay that mana cost when flashing it back
@Akromathia
@Akromathia 25 күн бұрын
There is no better place to watch the spoiler season! God bless you Seth!
@piralos1329
@piralos1329 25 күн бұрын
Of note, you can't free cast Flare of Denial from the yard w/ Snapcaster Mage!!
@andrewkorn456
@andrewkorn456 24 күн бұрын
It also means shepherd in that it's can escourt another creature "safely" aka exile the big threat
@metalhev3989
@metalhev3989 25 күн бұрын
Null Elemental Blast is a mandatory include in any commander deck. Its pretty much colorless Wash Away, since most commanders are multicolored.
@brandandixon3943
@brandandixon3943 25 күн бұрын
can be tough on the mana base since u need a colorless source. u need like 20 colorless sources to even have a chance casting it early
@metalhev3989
@metalhev3989 25 күн бұрын
@@brandandixon3943 you know what's played in literally every commander deck and produces colorless? Sol Ring/Mana Crypt. Crazy huh?
@brandandixon3943
@brandandixon3943 25 күн бұрын
@@metalhev3989 Count up the number of sources that produce colorless. It's like running a red card with only 5 mana source in your 100 card deck. Good luck. And mana crypt and sol ring are horrible to use this spell as a counterspell.
@eliaswolter2955
@eliaswolter2955 25 күн бұрын
I hate that you can sacrifice the Evoke elementals, at least in theory, to the new free spells, it’s a narrow synergie but if the elemental and the flare of a color line up to a good synergie that could be problematic
@petersteiman2443
@petersteiman2443 25 күн бұрын
I love Orim’s Chant too. It was one of the cards I thought would be a good candidate for MHIII. I played it in a budget Type One deck a looooong time ago.
@kylejohnson4662
@kylejohnson4662 25 күн бұрын
Wight of the Reliquary seems like fun with Intruder Alarm in Timeless. Fetch a Field of the Dead, trigger Field to trigger Alarm. Sac the Field token to get another Field, repeat to get all the fields and all lands from your deck. Find some payoff and it’s a win.
@chartreux1532
@chartreux1532 25 күн бұрын
I'm happy about Winter Moon. One thing i always disliked about most more modern Sets (I play and collect here in Germany since 1996) was the sudden Lack of Anti-Lands Cards Hope WotC starts to make Land Destruction and Cards oppressing Lands a Thing again you'll find at least one Card in a Set of Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@jlaw131985
@jlaw131985 25 күн бұрын
Flare of Denial is gonna be great with Yuriko or anything else that’s blue & black that likes being killed
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 25 күн бұрын
Does emerge work with evoke? If i remember correctly you can emerge at instantspeed (unless i'm mixing it up with some other mechanic).
@roronoa1243
@roronoa1243 25 күн бұрын
Sylvan Safecreature is my new favorite Seth-ism
@derpyderperson2912
@derpyderperson2912 25 күн бұрын
Early spoilers with Seth? God it must be my birthday! 🎂🎉
@beanashes
@beanashes 25 күн бұрын
i think the best part of MH3 is the addition of the 12th basic land, but i do love winter moon and null elemental blast for their flavor. kinda hyped for the release for the sake of fun because those are getting included in my eldrazi deck immediately.
@Not_Morgoth
@Not_Morgoth 20 күн бұрын
How do goyf effects work with adventure cards? I feel like since the card specified “any number of cards with 4 different card types among them” means that adventures could count for 2 and consequently give greater recur potential to nethergoyf.
@Medicinalmagic911
@Medicinalmagic911 25 күн бұрын
Thassas oracle trigger on the stack… you can sac it to pay for flare of denial… ❤❤❤❤ 3:36
@Flashpoint-xe2gb
@Flashpoint-xe2gb 25 күн бұрын
I'm definitely going to try Wight of the Reliquary in Canlander Dredge
@Flashpoint-xe2gb
@Flashpoint-xe2gb 25 күн бұрын
Actually perfect for Black Mold too
@T4N7
@T4N7 25 күн бұрын
Orim's Chant actually has a good combo lock with Venser, the Sojourner n any permanent with an EtB to return an instant from ur grave to ur hand. In our old kitchen table playgroup, we had a player whose main deck was an Azorius ctrl deck built around Venser. Originally it was a deck he had played in Standard n over the yrs he upgraded pieces of it with non Standard cards after the deck had rotated out. One of the upgrades he did was swapping his 4 copies of Silence for 2 copies of Orim's Chant which opened up 2 more slots in his deck n we were all happy cuz it meant he saved it for more opportune moments rather than just using on whomever was just before him in the turn order like he used to do with Silence. But then 1 day in a 3 player game against my li'l brother playing UG snakes n I forget wut I was playing, but my brother had a couple of massive Lorescale Coatls, each enchanted with Favor of the Overbeing so they had Flying n Vigilance. He swung at me for lethal n then our friend went n drew into Orim's Chant n realized that with Venser n his Archaeomancer that he could just loop these n locked my brother out of the game until Venser's emblem exiled everything n he won. The very next game they were both playing the same deck, again I forget wut I played, but once again my brother made the same mistake of finishing me first only for this same lock to happen. I tried to warn him but at least that time the Archaeomancer wasn't alrdy on the field so it was less obvious but we realized that day that u just can't leave our friend's Venser deck for last, u needed to kill him first unless u had a counterspell or some activated ability infinite combo, otherwise u just get locked out of playing Magic. I hope someone builds a deck along those lines n maybe it will see play 🤞🏽
@brendanthornton493
@brendanthornton493 25 күн бұрын
Wight of the reliquary is kind of like knight of the reliquary and fiend artisan. (Seth, Wight of Precinct Six and Knight of the Reliquary!)
@FlawlessRythym
@FlawlessRythym 25 күн бұрын
Does Snappy actually work with Flare though? Since Snappy actually makes the flashback cost 1UU. Pretty sure you can't free cast off Snap. Anyway, I think it could work in decks that are running that 1 drop that makes a map token, or Overwhelmed Apprentice. Something that gets some value with it's etb.
@MidgarMerc
@MidgarMerc 25 күн бұрын
Take a shot every time Seth says "In commander"
@ianlockard9694
@ianlockard9694 25 күн бұрын
I prefer to live
@twistedlimitsjj1901
@twistedlimitsjj1901 24 күн бұрын
Ummm am I the only one who noticed, the ugin labyrinth can be used to protect from hand attack. Especially with the 2 reliquary creatures activate at least instant speed grab the labyrinth hide an important colorless card get it back the turn you need it. So B/G or W/G... But also G/U has growth spiral to put it in at instant speed so if a eldrazi deck pops up in any of those 3 colors then remember this for those scam matchups.
@JushakF
@JushakF 25 күн бұрын
Worth noting that Spawn-Gang Commander ramps you directly into Herigast - 5 (including RR) from the card itself and the remaining 3 mana from the Eldrazi Spawn, so I would imagine if someone did do Herigast deck Spawn-Gang Commander would be an auto-include to ramp out your commander.
@Ornithopter470
@Ornithopter470 19 күн бұрын
You still have to pay the RR, but otherwise yes. You sac the commander, one token for the last mana, pay two red and you have a 6/6 and two minions
@JushakF
@JushakF 19 күн бұрын
@@Ornithopter470 Damn, I guess I've misread Emerge then. For some reason I thought saccing the creature also provided the colored mana pips, not just generic mana. Guess it shows I've practically never used Emerge.
@hermanstasannes3824
@hermanstasannes3824 25 күн бұрын
Flare of denial in dimir mill! You have like eight crabs you can sac🙌🏻
@lenardEkko
@lenardEkko 25 күн бұрын
I'm pretty certain that if your opponent attacks you with Emrakul you will lose regardless of if it is a 2/2 or not
@yuzusnail1308
@yuzusnail1308 25 күн бұрын
I am expecting some rise of dredge decks due to flare of denial. saccing narcomoeba and prized amalgam for it looks pretty good
@TheSelesynian
@TheSelesynian 25 күн бұрын
everyone doubted Felicia's archeology skills. she proved them wrong
@lanewright9245
@lanewright9245 25 күн бұрын
Rishadan dockhand, tap target land, sacrifice to flare is going to feel good.
@DonovanPresents
@DonovanPresents 25 күн бұрын
Herighast is also a potential mono red aristocrat commander!
@FlawlessRythym
@FlawlessRythym 25 күн бұрын
Ugin's Labyrinth is the card you needed for that Hideaway deck you just played. Would have made it a little more consistent and/or explosive.
@jerrymcdaniel6643
@jerrymcdaniel6643 25 күн бұрын
I’ve actually been messing around with arid archway in pioneer lol
@RaphaelBriand
@RaphaelBriand 25 күн бұрын
Kudo could be really good in +1+1 decks, something with Botanical Brawler maybe. Or be a very good commander for them.
@JundBacon
@JundBacon 22 күн бұрын
Just want to point out that with a Leyline of the Guildpact out, null elemental can target any of their nonland permanents. I think it is a great removal add for a popular deck.
@bortron5000
@bortron5000 25 күн бұрын
So funny after the commander clash podcast talking about magic's land problems, we get multiple generic land tutors spoiled.
@philcoats6812
@philcoats6812 25 күн бұрын
Sylvan Safekeeper is a nonbo with Yawgmoth. Yawg has protection from Humans. Sylvan Safekeeper, human.
@terryschmitt8050
@terryschmitt8050 25 күн бұрын
Ugin's labyrinth returns any card from exile. Interesting exile protection.
@keithmpire
@keithmpire 25 күн бұрын
It says "return that card", so only the card originally exiled with it, unfortunately.
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