Moesha got on my nerves....| Rant

[@LaVidaRosa]

Let me clear something up. CLEARLY, it’s “just a show” & “iTs NoT rEaL”. The fun is talking about it like it’s real. We all used to watch it and it’s enjoyable to look back and “analyze”. It’s really not that deep tho.

[@ryansingletary3935]

LaVidaRosa if Moesha never did end after season 6 how further do you think the show would’ve lasted.

[@ryansingletary3935]

@@seihair1810 why do you think the show was cancelled

[@kaylao.3326]

I love your hair in this vid. It’s so pretty!

[@A--ny1sf]

I’m just so confused. We’re talking about the work of several writers aren’t we???? I’m glad it was just a sitcom for Brandy Countess Shar Lamont etc! Because the age we are now. I’m still looking at THIER accomplishments and the fact that they were apart of movement for our Black community in Hollywood. I’m sure they wished they could navigate the engine as well. But that’s the REALITY of entertainment! What’s real to me is vloggers today and that make impractical and thoughts real or create mindless tv for ratings and monetary gain. Now that’s real ijs. Rip Lamont Mr. Santana Bernie and Miss Yvette🥰🙏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽😇

[@nicolewinston135]

I agree

[@priscillapriscilla1724]

Hakeem always checked Moesha when wrong and was genuinely happy for her success. That's a real friend.

[@jaydenlee6573]

Facts, he was the realest

[@Bloombaby99]

Good luck finding friends like that today.

[@brianas6550]

Yes. I’ve always said that. Sometimes she didn’t deserve him.

[@Hulk2k6]

@@brianas6550 They were better as friends instead of lovers.

[@phi-losiphy2038]

@@brianas6550 She never did because she chose Q over him!

[@ilianaxavier1587]

i hated how moesha felt like she could be the only smart one out of her friends. remember when her pride was way too big to ask niecy for help with her chemistry hw?

[@pretty_wingz]

That irritates my soul🙄 and how sweet Neicy was when she said “of course I’ll help you girl.” Such a good friend she was.

[@PineapplesCoconut]

I couldn’t stand how she treated Kim when she the cheerleading squad or felt like she was too stupid to go to college.

[@leahscott3574]

@@PineapplesCoconut let’s not act like that was just Moe because ALL of them thought Kim was stupid and made fun of her

[@Diamond92189]

Sameeee !!!

[@Bbyb00gangsta]

She was highly disrespectful towards Kim too.

[@zheahra]

Dee was holding the fort down while Frank acted like he was in charge. She never received credit for how she kept Mo' in check and Miles in line while he went through puberty. You never saw her being mean or belittling Mo' or Miles. I get upset over how this is expected of women and not seen as an extension of femininity. This is an example of how just having a "man" in the home doesn't mean better children. Frank (and his chilren) was fortunate to have Dee.

[@phillinsogood]

Yea they definitely were lucky to have her they were all a mess

[@IamTheDon888]

They were all lucky to have each other. Frank needed Dee and Dee needed Frank. Dee was a great wife and stepmother. Frank was a great husband and father. But I truly hated that idiotic plotline of Frank being Dorians actual father. The writers basically destroyed a great character and the show's dynamic for nothing.

[@TrulyMademoizelle]

Right. Cuz Mo did have a mom before Dee. I'm sure she was a major part in how Mo turned out. Frank's parenting is toxic behavior. Reading her diary, really?

[@rocthaice24]

Dee needed more backbone sometimes and I think it’s why she isn’t talked about as the great moms of TV. The biggest example is when Moesha moved out/kicked out for a while summer and even Frank mom was like what the hell you doing? Dee should of Moe and Frank clean that up

[@beebeesimmer3010]

U feel me thooooo!!! She held it down!!!

[@carlaeyyy649]

Hakeem deserved so much more, he was my favorite character. I hated how they would make fun of him for being broke in the earlier seasons. Its not his fault he was poor. Especially the adults (Frank), like how do you as a grown man bully a child because he has nowhere to eat but your house. Dee also deserved more, and was really the ones who knew how to raise those kids because the tough love drill sergeant act Frank was tryna pull was not working for anyone. But tbh Frank acted all big and tough but he wasnt that unreasonable with Moesha, he was just mean and she was just annoying and had to break every basic rule just for kicks. But then when it came to Dorian, he didnt really punish him until he stole a car to sell drugs.

[@jessicacurbeam2990]

Frank gives off I was poor growing up and I made it out now I’m better than everyone else

[@kilocopter]

How did he bully Hakeem he let him in his home let him eat with his family everyday and night?

[@iiambaldhead]

R.I.P Lamont Bentley🥺

[@bs1512]

Yes

[@jafer78542]

@@kilocopter he used to tell him to leave all the time. See was the one who let him stay

[@CeeWillTheTrill]

Andell was only 30-33 and they tried to make her seem like an old maid. And she definitely deserved better than Bernie

[@mac9733]

Because it's coming from the perspective of teenagers

[@bri-kh2mh]

Honestly. I was so mad when she left that guy who proposed to her just to go back to Bernie🙄

[@cakes3958]

They treated her better on The Parkers

[@MamiTT237]

Back then 30 WAS an old maid

[@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254]

And was Dee already in her 40s when she married Frank? Weird they made Andell older in The Parkers

[@kenya9549]

One episode that really stood out to me was when Brandy was accepted into a university. When Kim came to visit she mentioned how nice the school looked and how she wanted to attend it as well. Moesha threw major shade at Kim about her grades. Kim spoke her mind and told Mo about herself. That episode was a classic. Thank you for this video 😘

[@Tiajones333]

Yes

[@gutgutcalor9095]

Which episode was that

[@NaeemaKallon]

What episode was that? I don’t remember it.

[@gutgutcalor9095]

@@NaeemaKallon right me either

[@maequn]

@@gutgutcalor9095 Season 4, Episode 13 - Ohmigod, Fanatic.

[@carlaeyyy649]

Also that whole thing about the car pissed me off so much. At 16 you get a brand new car and you say no. Because "its not you". A BRAND NEW CAR, and you reject it?

[@heatherkan]

Omg this.... Because it was a Saturn not a Jeep?!

[@baggergurl16]

And didn’t that same jeep keep breaking down on her?

[@mamakat7176]

If that was my daughter she would have been driving her CheveraLEGS.

[@renaissancewoman100]

I remember that. Shit I would have taken that car with pride. My first car didn't have a key. You could start it with anything 😂😂😂

[@signofthecrabs]

@@mamakat7176 LMFAOOOOO good one😹😹

[@micahsellers8594]

Moesha and Hakeem as a couple was SO weird like they had a brother sister relationship in the beginning seasons

[@monicawilliams8531]

I HATE that they them in as a couple. That was horrible & each episode depicting it was outright cringy.

[@shaggyajao5685]

I did too and when ray j came on to the show that when the show went left!

[@josephclegg3562]

Mo and Hakeem grew up together. They were like brother and sister.

[@MsButterflyJan1976]

I don’t understand why they chose to go that route. It didn’t fit or make sense to me.

[@caprimariebeauty7712]

I totally agree that Moesha was toxic. but as 10-12 year olds watching it back in the mid 90s, some of us really didnt realize how toxic she was until now. Alot of us are in our early to mid 30s rewatching this show for the first time in years, however were able to sit and appreciate the realness, were able to sit and acknowledge the issues that occurred, were able to sit and realize damn, Moesha was a terrible friend and shitty gf sometimes, Frank was prolly cheating on Dee (or dealing drugs) cuz who sells cars at midnight, Hakeem was such an amazing friend but ppl overlooked that because they looked at him like he was a freeloader. All in all, i loved rewatching one of my favorite childhood shows now that im older and wiser. Moesha is so important to black culture!

[@chocha4438]

He was cheating on Dee. He had a whole outside baby

[@isaacdiakite3264]

@@chocha4438 That was Dorian, that was way before he met Dee. He cheated on Moesha and Myles mother while they were separated. But as far as we know he never cheated on Dee.

[@rocthaice24]

Rewatching on Netflix with my mom and Moesha was truly selfish and trash. The icing on the cake was when she skipped on Myles therapy to judge a low budget talent show

[@OK-fy1zq]

Yeah moesha was very toxic gf and horrible friend. The show was still cool though.

[@hiddenflower862]

OK - She was a teen. Most teens I know were exactly like her honestly. They were selfish and made really poor choices, all the while thinking they were grown/ had it all together lol 😂

[@tyresmith9833]

Moesha had her ways, but Frank was the worst father. He wasn’t even hard on Dorian and Dorian was going around causing chaos everywhere he went. Dorian was also one of the reasons the show went downhill. He wasn’t needed.

[@TF-gf3fs]

He definitely was more lenient on Dorian once he moved in. The only time he put his foot down was when he put Dorian In boot camp.

[@trinitybeard8588]

Agreed they should have pulled the plug after the 4 season

[@timj1534]

I hated frank

[@tarilynmonroe]

@@timj1534 Same‼️🙄

[@tyvillianheartthrob1856]

​@@TF-gf3fsImagine what Frank would have done when Frank discovered that Dorian caused Myles to be kidnapped.

[@LilacStar82]

It wasn't just Kim and Andell they made thirsty. Neicy was thirsty as well. She wanted to get with Moesha's annoying weird cousin Clark ( Waldo from Family Matters) Moesha called her desperate for that and Moesha always cracked about the faults Niecy's boyfriends had ( bad breath, mumble mouth, a limp) all her friends had trouble getting guys but the guys always flocked to her. Moesha wasn't the only intelligent one in the group. Neicy was just as intelligent but she didn't reveal it to her friends until graduation when she revealed what university she was accepted to.

[@inlovewithkenn]

Violet Skies Yea. And then Kim said that was stupid of her😭

[@Dan-yf7rj]

They all allways talk abt neicy's boyfriends its a black sicom what were they supposed to do sit and just stare at each other?😑

[@LilacStar82]

@@Dan-yf7rj Obviously you don't get it. NEXT!

[@phillinsogood]

Honestly I can see that the proud family was HEAVILY inspired by Moesha lol. A sassy young black girl with a middle class family & friends similar to mo’s. Dijonay & Sticky were literally carbon copies of Kim & Hakeem. Penny was more likable than Moesha

[@femalegirlzz]

Proud family even had a parody Moesha TV show. AISHA.

[@phillinsogood]

femalegirlzz yea I remember lol 😂

[@tgirl1762]

@@phillinsogood Dijonay was Kim and Niecy rolled into one. She chased sticky around like Kim did Hakeem and she had a whole bunch of siblings like Niecy

[@Tiajones333]

Yup

[@aaronflowers8881]

Never thought about that.

[@moniqueking6086]

I started re-watching and within the first 6 episodes Moesha commented on Kim's weight two or more times each episode. Kim wasn't fat AT ALL!

[@inlovewithkenn]

Monique King Ikr. It was so messed up. Both girls said something about the producers putting stuff like that in the script. Brandy even said she didnt want to do it, but the producers forced her too. Shar even stood up for herself. In one of the episodes called “The List”, they made a statement about Shars boob size which didn’t sit right with her. They also made a comment about Brandys butt being big. Yes it’s for the show, but they still are talking about their bodies irl. Countess even said she would leave the show if the body shaming continued. But she didn’t because she knew it would mess up the whole entire storyline. But yea. All three women didn’t appreciate the body shaming at all. It’s really sad.😕 producers even tried to blame brandy (since she is one of the producers) and say she put all that In the script. When In reality it really wasn’t her. She was the one trying to defend all the girls.

[@estherbalogun8092]

@@inlovewithkenn wow I didn’t know that 😯

[@feloniousgru1404]

Like countess literally looked healthy back then she was and still is beautiful

[@jakelldixon]

RIGHT

[@AnAdorableWombat1]

@@feloniousgru1404she Was overweight. She was like 5ft tall and 150-175lbs. She was too big for her weight so yes, she was

[@alyssiaralph2102]

I also appreciated that Moesha was spoiled too and I liked that fact that all the guys in the show flocked to Moesha. It’s rare to see these days on tv with unambiguous black women, especially with the nuances of colorism being talked about more. BUT I did not like the fact that Niecy and Kim did not get the same energy from men when they were just as beautiful and deserving. Frank was a toxic parent and a hypocrite. What I can appreciate about frank is him looking after Hakeem like his own and how loving and soft he was with Moesha when they were on good terms, which was nice to see for me because I would’ve loved that type of treatment from my father who was barely in my life. What I mainly appreciate from the show is the images of feminine darker skin unambiguous black women and girls(Dee was everything). Even those little clips in between scenes of random blackness and culture and the neighborhood they lived in. It’s a real BLACK family show that where none of the kids are mixed. I feel like the kids coming up now need to see that. Hopefully someone can create a family show similar to Moesha but less problematic

[@Truckeractivityy]

Yes they were fine

[@beebeesimmer3010]

Yes my daughter is 11 and she’s always talking about how she can never see black girls on a whole show by themselves it’s always a token black girl and she’s mixed

[@Balincia20]

@@beebeesimmer3010 I agree! I’m 13 I swear in most of these shows now it’s always the “token black friend” I barely see a black main character in shows it upsets me

[@marquitashiver6141]

Yes! She had her flaws but I agree with all that I said. I like brown skinned Laura Winslow too.

[@joyandbeauty2024]

Yea I totally agree with everything u said. & agree that while I love the fact that Moesha a dark skinned unambiguous mono-racial black girl was the “it - girl” of the show and got all the attention from guys I don’t like that they portrayed it as if her friends could barely get attention from guys it really just didn’t make sense Neicy was just as pretty & was slim like Moesha so I don’t understand how she was supposed to not get any attention from guys & Kim was thick & pretty as well (even though they acted like she was huge) so I don’t understand how they tried to act like she couldn’t get any attention from guys. It kinda seemed to me like even though they offset colorism with Moesha’s character by having her get all the attention I still feel like they further perpetuated it with Neicy & Kim bcus it was like the show was saying there can only be one dark skinned girl getting attention and being great & the only reason she’s getting attention is bcus she’s “perfect” she’s pretty, smart, & ambitious and that’s why she deserves attention so it kinda low key enforces this idea that dark skinned women have to be perfect and have no flaws (even though in actually Moesha has plenty of flaws) to get attention from guys & be the “it” girl, and this notion that u can’t be “mediocre” like they tried to portray Kim & Neicy & get attention as an unambiguous dark/brown skinned girl u must be “perfect” to be the “it” girl & even then there can only be one at a time.

[@jenniejones3812]

I noticed on the Parker's Kim character had more ! She was a fashion designer and always loving & caring towards her friends hmm tee & Stevie were better friends inn my Opinion

[@ihearttylerthecreatorr]

yeah i agree. T and Stevie were Kim's real friends than her old ones (Moesha especially).

[@keishaizawesome2836]

I'm so glad someone said this! Moesha was a jerk. She was ungrateful, selfish, and a spoiled brat. Baby I was done with her when her daddy gave her a car and she refused it because it wasnt what she wanted. I didnt realize this when I was a kid but looking back on it now I see the toxicity.

[@sweet_sheida16]

Penny Proud, Zoey, and Moesha was the same character low key lol.

[@marilyn1984]

Ehhhh Zoey was way more irritating

[@troydaleshow5441]

Real talk cause Dejanay is kim

[@Ciyz.Wynterz]

TRUDYYYYyYY

[@liyahgisele]

Troydale Show yesss

[@chr1st1aaan]

Penny had her moments but she wasn’t has bad

[@Theeflawlesswallace]

Kim carried that show into a spin off 😁

[@foreverzoria]

Can we talk about Kim’s boyfriend? Micheal was perfect for her he also was on the Parker’s too

[@FlyGirlTee123]

I love how he stood up for her when her “besties” were fat shaming her.

[@najeenixon1834]

They killed him off on The Parkers, unfortunately.

[@Tiajones333]

I agree I wanted them to end up together on The Parkers

[@Tiajones333]

@@najeenixon1834 I was mad when they did that

[@EmmanuellaTieson]

@@Tiajones333 me too, made me upset.

[@pretty_wingz]

I wanna know why they had Niecy wear that tired ponytail all of season 5&6. Meanwhile Brandy had a new hairdo every episode🙄🤦🏾‍♀️

[@credacranberry2186]

Frrr

[@robinholcomb3525]

Right!! And her hair was cute in the earlier seasons

[@ronnie6696]

Because brandy was the star lol what type of question is that. That’s like saying why Lisa on sister sisters had the same hairstyle while the twins hair was different 🙄

[@alc1602]

I TOTALLY forgot about Dorian being Frank’s son! Frank was a narcissist.

[@Truckeractivityy]

Y do you think he was a narcissist?

[@katiepop3442]

I absolutely hated when they made frank dorian father... I basically stopped watching after that...cant let a black man be great

[@LilacStar82]

He was definitely a classist.

[@trinityobryantqueen2964]

Frank and Dorian relationship was annoying I feel like the storyline was dry

[@KenyattaJaNelle]

Couldn't have been that rich, Hakeem lived close enough to pop up for breakfast every morning.

[@Truckeractivityy]

Yea I think they were just lower to middle class

[@rocthaice24]

Facts and Hakeem had a single mom so what was she doing

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

@@rocthaice24 Hakeem's mother worked a lot. Hakeem would always take a plate home for her.

[@itscolorsofbeauty964]

@@Truckeractivityy exactly they never claimed to bea rich family on the show

[@itscolorsofbeauty964]

@@joshuamcdowell9745 exactly people who watch the show would know

[@nicoleokundaye2962]

The only character I liked was Dee.

[@XdDubs]

On thats on what? Thats on periodt.

[@4krome449]

I like andell

[@cnstqnce2841]

I wish she called out Frank on his BS

[@PrincessofPower84]

Dee was a cool lady

[@kianah544]

Dassit

[@wynterbelle2962]

I literally thought I was the only one that thought moesha character was annoying and had major character flaws it’s the fact she constantly trying to play prefect and innocent

[@ChrisCam1983]

And that’s on insecurity 👁👄👁

[@clipz4dayz794]

If the show made you feel that way then they did a good job

[@inlovewithkenn]

Tavion Thomas They did an excellent job. That means Brandys a good actor. Cuz her character pissed all of us off sometimes.😭

[@beebeesimmer3010]

That’s that Aquarius shit she was an Aquarius I had a friend who is an Aquarius and she act Just like Moesha . Swear! She belittles ppl and act like she better than everyone . Like her shit don’t stank.

[@holidayhitz]

NO Moesha was kinda annoying and trying to be innocent but she was a bit nice and the theme song is GOOD!

[@beezy22]

I’ll always and forever support moesha but when Kim And Andell left plus when frank revealed to Dorian that he was his father:that forever changed and destroyed moesha...rip Yvette Wilson and Lamont Bentley...

[@instantlyaddicts5806]

Bryan R. Rip Romeo Santana too. All of them so young.

[@beezy22]

Instantly Addicts yes indeed rip Merlin Santana Bernie Mac And Ricky Harris....

[@Truckeractivityy]

Also when ray j became a repeating cast members

[@SHEVCHENKOFAN18]

@@beezy22 Lamont Bentley too.

[@alc1602]

Yeah...Moesha was toxic. She needed therapy. The fat shaming of Kim, mocking Hakeem’s socioeconomic status and treating him like a charity case, always pointing out Miles’ inadequacies....it was all bad. lol Her dad was definitely part of the reason she felt like she was better than her friends, but I think she put on a front for that most part, to cover up her shortcomings. Frank was a toxic parent. He was a bully. When Dee came along, she pointed it out. I loved Andell though. She was always a voice of reason. And girl!! My first car was a metallic blue Pontiac Grand AM! lol

[@phillinsogood]

Andell??? What I thought her name was aunt dell lol

[@kheymaurasweat2840]

I absolutely hated frank. He wasn’t a good father. He would literally call his daughter so many names. Like when he said moesha looked like a tramp for wearing a crop top. Moesha was.. Idk. Toxic, not good to anyone really. Made so many stupid choices. So ungrateful too.

[@isaacdiakite3264]

This is all true but, if they were perfect role models we wouldn't watch it.

[@kheymaurasweat2840]

Isaac Diakité agreed. But they could have made them good people with flaws.

[@isaacdiakite3264]

@@kheymaurasweat2840 But I think they were good people with flaws, and all honesty as much as we talk about the "toxic" people on this show we probably know and love people like that. It's a realistic portrayal. Perhaps that's why certain characters bother you so much(I'm asking not stating).

[@sierraford2955]

I used to sit and watch the show and wonder "Now how come Moesha can pull all these guys?" Something's not adding up.... Moesha was extremely ungrateful and failed to take responsibility, always blaming her friends or some other source for HER problems.

[@milkhomie4582]

Cuz she pretty and the show is about her

[@theredhood4888]

Huh? How was she ungrateful and her friends were the reason sum of her probs started

[@njyawndra8609]

Definitely not ungrateful but whatever.

[@Not_Always]

That was my BIGGEST gripe. Brandy was 4/10 in California yet every dude on the show wanted her. Like, no. They would not.

[@ginacleveland7995]

@@Not_Always 🤣🤣🤣

[@zheahra]

Hi! Neicy was smarter than Moesha. She down-played her academic achievements to hang with Kimmy and especially Mo. I thought her storyline was more interesting. Frank and that Eddie Murphy laugh got on my nerves. Brandy and Countess fail out for the reasons you've mentioned. Moesha needed her friends more than they needed her. This show and other shows promote hierarchical structures and stereotypes in society.

[@LilacStar82]

Yes it wasn't until that episode when they were getting accepted into college when Niecy revealed how smart she was by the University she said she was accepted to. It seemed like she downplayed her intelligence because if she didn't she would upstage Moesha because she is known for her academic achievements.

[@leahscott3574]

I mean that’s not really lord fault though bc niecy hid it even Hakeem thought niecy was dumb when he made that comment about cheating off of her

[@joyandbeauty2024]

@@LilacStar82 yea I hate that the sitcoms from back in the day that starred a teenage girl always had to have the star of the show be constantly shown as being so great and so much better than everyone else by purposely scripting the friends as sidekicks who were less than the main character (less attractive, less smart, less moralistic, etc.) just to prop up the main character as being so great

[@marissawilson4644]

I agreed with everything. The only thing that I want to add is, Frank's affair was written in at the last minute of the show. Frank and Sheryl Lee Ralph disagreed with the change but that was the writer's way of bringing Ray J onto the show full time. This is why Sheryl left the show.

[@bigbabysld]

This show was ok until RAY J showed up.

[@yourfavoritecousindavin7744]

Lol

[@alisonfarmer3863]

Exactlyyyy

[@jordanwright2072]

@@alisonfarmer3863 They shoulda stopped at 4.

[@cicihopeluv]

As most shows are 😂

[@johnniejames4888]

Every show Ray J was on was left on a cliff hanger too

[@sparklerucker8054]

Don't forget the episode when she (Moesha) was in college and her roommate was Marissa Winokur and she didn't think this hot guy liked her (Marissa) because of her weight smh 🤦🏾 horrible "friend" lol

[@brandonbates9259]

Out of all the episodes mentioned, Moesha was the worst in that episode lol

[@sparklerucker8054]

@@brandonbates9259 Exactly!! I couldn't stand her character lol like she was the only one who could pull a guy 🤦🏾😂😂

[@redips]

Someone really needs to tell Moesha to "shut the hell up and mind your own business!!!"

[@misstyra2013]

I was happy when Netflix added Moesha. Like i binged watched it but I was rolling my eyes every episode because she was working my nerves feeling like she was better than everyone.

[@avabea333]

So many characters have died it’s so sad! And I felt to bad for Kim and the way they mentioned her weight sm. it’s horrible

[@Tiajones333]

Yes

[@TrulyMademoizelle]

Moesha was definitely a bad friend.

[@ChrisCam1983]

Okay don’t act like we all haven’t roasted our friends a couple of times 👁👄👁

[@TrulyMademoizelle]

@@ChrisCam1983 I can't imagine a girlfriend telling another that she's fat all the time is a good friend.

[@fishballsliketoeatboba343]

@Magna Blemur For real,shes a bad friend because who would call there best friend fat?

[@TrulyMademoizelle]

@@fishballsliketoeatboba343 one who wanna be friendless. She wasnt even fat at the time! She was short and thick.

[@leahscott3574]

@@TrulyMademoizelle and imagine a friend telling another friend that she’s skinny and has no shoulders etc. which is what Kim did to niecy they all shamed each other which was wrong don’t act like Moe was the only bad friend

[@jbaby1080]

The "thirsty desperate big girl" stereotype was the reason why I couldn't get into The Parkers (I watched Moesha and couldn't stand how they played Kim about her weight). They had Mo'Nique literally stalking Professor Oglevee! As a young lady back then, I was like "wow, is it like THAT?!"

[@inlovewithkenn]

FRRRR. It was actually exposed out that Brandy, Countess, and Shar tried to get the producers to stop talking bad about their bodies. It especially showed in the list. Shar didn’t appreciate them talking about her titty size, Brandy didn’t appreciate them talking about her butt being big, and Countess didn’t appreciate them talking about her weight in the scripts. But they forced them to continue on with the scenes. It was alleged at one point that Countess wanted to leave the show but she didn’t because she knew it would mess up the storyline. It’s really messed up.😕

[@aaronflowers8881]

Kim was so attractive

[@N.I.X_T.V]

The show was so well written and the characters were so developed and deep BUT MOESHA WAS TOXIC. Double standard central. She got all in everyone's business but hated people in her own, she cheated on Q with his cousin but for mad when her man accidentally kissed Neicy, the spoiltness, the disrespect, the audacity had me twitching the entire series

[@Anna-fl6ov]

niecy and kim are such an underrated duo. they’re both super smart but never really got to reveal that on the show because moesha didn’t let them. they’re so sweet as well and non toxic and they defo deserve more hype.

[@brandonbates9259]

Oh you mean how like they revealed how smart Kim was on The parkers??? Oh wait lol

[@Zvwry]

Nah they were toxic in their own ways

[@Multifacted_Brotha]

It was so unrealistic for a teen to turn down a car!! Hell I would take ANY car at that age as long it drives lol.

[@ginacleveland7995]

I often wondered if the actors were allowed to talk to the writers. Cause what teen in their right mind turns down a FREE car?!

[@ramonablue2464]

And we’re not even gonna talk abt that one homophobic episode..💀💀

[@XdDubs]

Or the hate crime

[@martincarmel9078]

Wym

[@maimai.alfonzo]

Which episode was that c

[@bri-kh2mh]

It was season 4 episode 12. Life imitating art. Moesha was soo problematic in that one

[@MsRight-sb5ds]

When she forced that guy to come out?! Yeah, mind ya business Moesha!

[@LydiaGeorgia]

Frank was so selfish when Dee wanted to go to Jamaica for her new job and when she found the birth control pills

[@me_sherrod940]

I notice she acted like she was better than her friends because she thought she was smarter but in season 3 when she went to private school she really didn’t make any friends because that’s where her competition really was at

[@ShelbySteele23]

I can hardly focus on anything you're saying because I am too distracted by your hair and makeup. So pretty! And yeh Moesha was straight boughetto!

[@ranieshabaker9449]

Ikr. Just beautiful

[@MamiTT237]

When I rewatched the show, I changed my mind about liking Moesha. She was just MEAN. And I couldn't understand why Q was so in love with her

[@kayellejay9608]

One thing I never liked about Moesha (the show) was that her dad was always policing her around boys. Her dad never trusted her even though she never had sex before college. As far as the character she reminds me of Carrie Bradshaw. Self-centered and lacking self-awareness.

[@everythingdivine]

She didnt have sex BECAUSE of the policing

[@PrincessofPower84]

Moesha's life motto was "Do well; just not better than me".

[@yonbonbonbon]

Okay rant time, lol. Rewatching the show on Netflix now and just noticed a few things. Pretty similar to what was said in this video. 1. the characters that really brings the comedy to the show is Kim and Niecy but especially Kim. Comedy wise, Kim carried that show. I love her. No wonder she got her spin-off "The Parkers" 2. Sorry if it's mean, but like almost every episode some guy hits on moesha likes she's just the hottest girl in the world and I'm always like..."why?" Lol 3.Moesha was really arrogant and thought she was better than all of her friends. Very arrogant, judgemental and prideful. Usually she realizes her ways by the end of the episode, but still...she was pretty trash at times. I honestly wouldn't be friends with her. I rather hang with Kim and Niecy, even tho they're gossips lol 4. Frank was way too overprotective. Moesha should be way more thankful for Dee. Dee disciplined when necessary. And was way more understanding of what a teenager was and how to deal wit them. Frank's style of parenting was to protect his own feelings most of the time, cus he didn't wanna see his daughter grow up. 5. Dorian was literally the worst fucking character lmao he stayed causing trouble and did it on purpose, constantly. No matter how many times he got caught, he still did whatever he wanted to do. He was extremely selfish and just overall a bad kid. 6. Lastly in my opinion Moesha looked better with Q than she did Hakeem. They had better romantic, chemistry. Its just Q wasn't as sweet and caring as Hakeem. Q at times was controlling and personality wasn't really compatible with Moesha's. If he was more like Hakeem I think they could have worked. And Moesha and Hakeem seemed better off as friends to me. Romantically their relationship, seemed awkward/ forced to me. Kay, end of rant 😂

[@Msklg]

Good review on things...what do you think about Myles character?

[@yonbonbonbon]

@@Msklg Nothing really about Myles character for me. He was a typical annoying / smart mouth little brother. I did think the whole smoking weed episode was unnecessary though. Like I get he did it because he felt left out from his family at times but after they finished therapy and everything things basically went back to the same way it always was lmaoooo

[@Msklg]

Yonbon Bonbon I agree

[@Irose_YTBE]

I wholeheartedly agree. I also wish Q stayed in the show tbh after s2. When Mo left Usher for him and they still didn't get together that made me mad honestly cuz Usher was actually good to Moesha so there was really no reason for them to break up unless they wanted to develop Q as a character and they didn't

[@yonbonbonbon]

@@Irose_YTBE True. It didn't made much sense for him to come back in the show and then for not to be any kind of development after that. Another thing that kind of annoyed me too is that there was a few episodes where they made a big thing out of Moesha and the subject of having sex for the first time and deciding if she was ready for it. Like the whole situation with Aaron and the whole birth control thing. But they never revealed if she ever did have sex. Like I know there was a scene when her and Q left her room after a night together and then there was that scene with Hakeem in his apartment too. Like what happened there?..

[@booksxbritttv]

So I just watched the first 5 episodes and had to see what others thought about it. I did not like Moesha growing up and even less now. I was born in the 90s and felt like she was a mean girl, self centered and spoiled unnecessarily. And watching it in my late 20s my opinion has not changed. Awesome commentary.

[@josephclegg3562]

Moesha went downhill after they made Dorian Frank's son. That dropped the ratings so much that it ended on a cliffhanger.

[@ajenesolomon1982]

Yeah, the show definitely jumped the shark after that. It wasn't that great to start with, but that whole story line made it worse. The show turned into a wack soap opera.

[@jessicashanel7577]

He called her a tramp when she was wearing a crop top to show her tattoo

[@CapricornQueen80]

I didn’t understand her neighborhood. Hakeems home was a mess and Moeshas home was beautiful.

[@ChrisCam1983]

And that’s on decoration 👁👄👁

[@RoadIIDaRiches]

That’s LA farreal though

[@joshuamcdowell9745]

His mom was never home. She worked a lot. She was a single mother. She had to work.

[@Diamond92189]

Thank you ‼️ finally someone said it!!! I agree Moesha was sooo self absorbed always getting all the guys Nicey & Kim liked & criticizing Kim by her weight and also how the all of sudden frank Mitchell had a love child out of the blue was sooo uncalled for why didn’t leave Dorian as the nephew instead and how dorians homies kidnapping miles it was unsolved the ending of the show didn’t made sense at all!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@SHEVCHENKOFAN18]

Dorian's friends didn't kidnap miles miles was kidnapped by someone else.

[@SHEVCHENKOFAN18]

Moesha is one of my favourite shows from my childhood. But I hadn't seen the series in years. I recently finished watching the series on Netflix and I definitely see what you and other critics of the series are talking about. For example Moesha gave Hakeem a hard time about dating an older woman. But later on in the series, she tried to date an older man not once but twice.

[@prestoncarla81]

I was a teenager and a young adult when this show was on the air. That being said I always noticed that the character Moesha was annoying and a toxic friend.

[@Emalye.Saeeeeeeeee]

Yes, the fat shamed tf out of Kim! I thought I was the only one that caught onto that. Kim wasn’t even that big. She just wasn’t as skinny as the group of friends she had.

[@amandahemphill6696]

They would fat shame Kim and skinny shame Niecy

[@jama3997]

It wasn't even that she was fat. She was just compressed. Literally short asf. Bc if she was fat, she wouldn't have been as energetic and athletic enough to land the spot on the cheerleading team. She'd be the one throwing shade with a stank attitude like moesha did.

[@SLa-pb1gg]

Keep in mind this is 96 when the average size was like 4. Even Phoebe from Friends said she went through insecurities on the show because she was bigger than Rachel and Monica, even though Phoebe was like a 6 or maybe 8, if that. It’s a product of how toxic the 90’s were with weight. Kim was definitely not big, she looked about 145-150 which is healthy weight to me.

[@ginacleveland7995]

She was just thick......but definitely shorter than everyone. That's all it was but to keep the shaming going all the time was corny and tired😖

[@MsButterflyJan1976]

Moesha thought felt like she was better than everyone else…including her friends, constantly stuck her nose where it didn’t belong…in other people’s business, was rude and had a smart ass mouth with a bad attitude most of the time. Why we loved Moesha is a mystery to me looking back now but we love a lot of toxic movies and shows for some reason.

[@Thatscmr]

Before I watched the whole video I was gonna comment about the cheerleading episode then I said na let me wait cause she gotta mention that one it was like the second episode in and Moesha was already wildin. when Hakeem told Moesha off tho I was like thank youuu! lol

[@pretty_wingz]

I was low key in love with Hakeem. Even though I loved me some Q. Hakeem was real and down and cute. He was a real down friend and later boyfriend.

[@amandahemphill6696]

Yeah Hakeem always told her the truth when she wasn’t being a good friend.

[@angelo_g965]

No one ever addressed how she treated nicey

[@FrannieFreshh]

I call Frank’s hairstyle the “Uncle Frank” lol!!!! Moesha was toxic and trash. I approve this message lol

[@LilacStar82]

I think Frank's hair was fake like Steve Harvey's.

[@fyecarmel2012]

YES!!!!!! I'm so glad you brought up the ending to The Parkers. Nikki should hit the Professor with the Ultimate flex and walked into genuine happiness with Johnny.

[@kiwifruit8220]

Remember that episode when moesha tried to push a relationship with a male teacher 🤢

[@KylaMae10]

Yeah Moesh is not the best, but the character I really did not like was the dad. He is so toxic and problematic🙄. Like dang wtf wrong with you.he is ALWAYS the commons denominator.🥱

[@corporatehippie5275]

I'm here for the Frank Mitchell dragging. I definitely screamed "BUT YOU HAD A SIDE BABY!" at the phone when u talked about how he would try to shame Mo. Looking back, I can still find enjoyment and appreciation in the show, but some of Moesha's flaws jump way out now that I'm grown.

[@brickztheproducer6931]

It's actually interesting that this culture exist. You can come back to old shows and critique them as an adult or just more mature with people over social media. All these black shows with substance had lots of relatable gems in them. Glad I found your channel

[@curlsandprayers]

I’m so glad you talked about her turning down that car. I knew immediately this was not the show for me. Then the way she treated Kim was the absolute worse. I related a lot more to The Parker’s because my mom had me at a young age and we have a similar relationship.

[@AhriFatima]

Omg yesss I HATED Frank lmao. He was so controlling

[@lyndarose6724]

Can I roast you?

[@4krome449]

@@lyndarose6724 question is, “can I roast you?”

[@arimackin]

Frank reminds me of my dad, they say some similar statements n stuff

[@curtisanderson2901]

Brandy's mom is the reason The "Moesha" character was so ridiculous. She was the "virginal, straight A student"

[@latoyawatts168]

I’m GLAD SOMEONE SAID IT ! Her mom Sonja Norwood is the root of all this

[@kimsznn]

Dorian was fine af but I did realize how Frank wouldn't tripp on him as much as he would on Mo.

[@sherls_o]

loved this video. I also hated the way they treated Hakeem , like he was lower than them simply because you shared some food with him. They literally knew him for ages yet still made him feel unwelcome. I don't like the way they kept commenting on Niecy being "skinny". Dee was definitely my favourite . Thank you so much for this amazing video xx

[@joyandbeauty2024]

I don’t even get how they shamed Neicy for being skinny when wasn’t Mo just as skinny as her

[@toriyt2714]

You have a point about how friends SHOULD not talk to each other. But...in reality female friends who like grow up with each other do talk about each other like that and they stay being friends.

[@ccannon1]

I watch moesha during the OG run and can confirm, everybody thought moesha was dumb af for turning down that Saturn even at the time. I also used to get mad a frank a lot, and while he did need better parenting skills, Moesha used to be wildin tf out!

[@taja6600]

To the person reading this: You're amazing stay blessed stay safe and healthy during quarantine🥺 My Dream is to hit 3k I am struggling to

[@Blauqkween]

They were all mean to each other at different times. They were all bad friends to each other but worked through their issues.

[@beebeesimmer3010]

Humans lol

[@Aster_Risk]

True. But the show didn't frame Moesha as the problem nearly as much as it should have.

[@wyntonmohorn]

You know, I would've had a big problem with your rant, but Brandy said it in an Oprah interview years ago that she got to the point whereas she couldn't stand playing Moesha anymore herself because she was too judgmenta. So I get it.

[@___goldieee___]

To be honest this reminded me of previous experiences that I’ve experienced with being made fun of and told like “are you slow” for not knowing certain things and it’s sad that people don’t really accept that not everyone is going to have the same characteristics as them. It’s almost like ppl have some kind of superiority that makes them feel that they are better than another person and true friends support each other and embrace the flaws of their friend not demean someone because of them. I know nobody is perfect but this does prove an issue that continuously goes on and it sucks

[@therealmarlonbellamy]

Moesha is one of those sitcoms where the main character was the antagonist.

[@chamab.6800]

I was praying you would talk about that cheerleading episode. That episode has stuck with me to this day. I remember watching that as a teen. After that episode I didn’t even really like Moesha (the character) anymore. It had me so bothered for a long time and I didn’t know why. I remember my gramma, who would sit with me while I watched TV, said “what kind of friend is that?” while cracking her pecans. Love you, Gramma.❤️ I’m now in my 40s. What I have found that is Gen X’ers have turned into the old people we swore we would never be and I’m mortified. We’ve turned into those same old people who can’t take criticism over “our tv shows and music”. I’m happy these shows are being analyzed and discussed. The fact that we can now re-watch these shows with adult eyes and knowledge and realize... dang, that really was messed up.

[@londoncarpenter2509]

I think Moesha was about character development everyone is not perfect and there will be people who we bump into that can act like Moesha! I think when we criticize characters we’re showing how out of reality we are because people act like Moesha but they matured

[@justinjuerakhan7934]

If only Hakeem became friends with Professor Oglevee and they would both be running away from Kim and Nikki

[@XdDubs]

The dream team. Well.. Dream track team...

[@Irose_YTBE]

I think y'all forget Kim got over Hakeem in the middle of season 2 💀

[@XdDubs]

@@Irose_YTBE yeah, but im pretty sure she still had some feeling through the series

[@Irose_YTBE]

@@XdDubs she literally was with another guy for the next 2 seasons but he disappeared for some reason. The episode she got over Hakeem she fell for some other dude cuz she realized she was missing out simping for someone who doesn't want her so she got with someone who did.

[@kobeisgoated29]

@@Irose_YTBE u mean season 4

[@theescorpio565]

I watched the Parkers and Moesha again and realized how problematic a lot of it was. I agree with your opinions though.

[@iamhisguhfrmtx2003]

All I can hear when I see Dee is "Singing does not put food on the table, Singing does not pay the bills Singing is no guarantee to a future even if you have got talent"

[@Vision-dt5wo]

Same. Lol

[@heatherkan]

sister Act 2

[@brittany4089]

Yes! I agree with this rant 1000% I watched this as a 30 year old and couldn’t get pass the second episode. Moesha was a terrible friend but a painfully accurate reflection of some girls I knew in my teen years smh

[@redips]

I need to say this... Moesha is a world class Hypocrite. She don't like people being in her business, yet she's always in someone else's business. Furthermore, she easily gets defensive for little things.

[@tonymolatto1904]

Bad part is Hakeem looked up to Moesha's life. She had loving upstanding middle class parents one sibling & hew own yet she didn't appreciate it.

[@trinityobryantqueen2964]

Moesha was annoying Kim was the bomb 💣 niece was a vibe and so was Hakeem 🥰

[@Xayjohns]

I'll say this for Moesha. I do respect that the show was willing to portray the main character in an unflattering light at times, and not try to make her seem perfect just because she's the protagonist. Mo was just plain unlikeable sometimes, and they didn't really hide it. I kind of like that.

[@ajenesolomon1982]

Okay, but me personally, I can appreciate a character that's flawed and a bit complex, but still likeable. Moesha was incorrigible a lot of the time. I don't know how she even had any friends.

[@ThrillKillx]

Honestly... I like and hate Moesha at the same time.

[@ashleyburchettajleefanlove4683]

Do you have any Black TV shows Rants coming out I love your Rants

[@kadeemreid7787]

Moesha and Zach Morris would make a perfect couple lol

[@estherbalogun8092]

Can you explain pls?

[@goddessnoir290]

Zach Morris is trash

[@goddessnoir290]

@@estherbalogun8092 there's a Facebook page called Zach Morris is trash. It talks about how Morris was in fact a trash person even though everyone loved him.

[@angelajohnsonkeys4199]

"Zack Morris is Trash!" KZbin series!

[@kateunsworth333]

Absolutely. Hakeem carried

[@Sarah.DaniellaTV]

My least favorite episode does when Moses that got her that car and she wanted a Jeep if that was me I would have been like girl you better take that damn car

[@booksxbritttv]

Thats literally what made me stop watching the series. I can not take 6 seasons of her.

[@clipz4dayz794]

Booksxbritt Tv y’all act like that was real life damn it’s a tv show

[@booksxbritttv]

@@clipz4dayz794 of course its a tv show. But her behavior on the show wasn't entertaining to me.

[@elevatedgoddess3917]

@@clipz4dayz794 rightttt. Likeeee. I be reading these comments like y'all know it's all a script, right?😂

[@lexo1189]

I unfortunately had a lot of “friends” like moesha as a child and mid adulthood. But as an grown up I definitely see frank as the villain i didn’t understand his hate from the audience but yeah he was trash

[@antz97]

I understand moesha meant to be the main character and all and yes she’s attractive but i like niecy better, she my favourite😍 I mean yeah she was a gossip and lil thirsty w/ kim but to me she looks prettier, she’s funny just has a better, bubblier personality. Dee is a beauty too, probs the best one out the lot😍

[@zaharaxo5185]

I dont think it was THAT ungrateful to turn down that car because she said she wanted to earn the car herself; She wanted to EARN it. But your right only about 50% of the time Moesha got what she deserved for being so toxic. I don’t think they used the thirsty big women thing as a stereotype, but thats just me. Another thing is that the more serious episodes never really taught a lesson, like when Miles got caught smoking weed, he didnt get a punishment, we never learned why and how he did it, and on top of that Miles never learned the consequences of smoking weed at such a young age or just in general. Also whenever he went to therapy the way he told his feelings was very confusing. “You always kick me out of your room when your friends come” but at the same time he invades her privacy and makes her pay a ransom to not tell her secrets. I know thats supposed to be like ‘the joke thing that only Miles would do’ but it still defeats his whole argument. Also I think the reason Frank went so easy on Dorian was because Dorian never really got over the whole jerry springer situation and Frank wanted Dorian to think of him as the cool dad so that he would like him more. In s5 and 6 I thought when Moesha and Hakeem were dating was super weird because they’re supposed to be the childhood best friends. And lastly, i know this weird but Moe losing her virginity was supposed to be like a really meaningful, important thing to her and when it happened it was just ‘no biggie’. And she stopped writing in her diary so we heard less of the iconic music, and Kim was gone

[@SuperHairOBSESSIONAmberJordan]

She was a kid! A spoiled one at that, that made common teenage mistakes. Plus, her daddy was strict asf so her behavior was spot on. Her character went through a lot of development which it should've. Who was always a good friend like that in highschool? I didn't like how she was in everyones (Hakeem) business and tried to always fix shit, but it's a show. Oh and the car situation and Dorian, but all in all I loved the show had great lessons. I hate this new age "let's analyze because I'm grown now". You wasn't back then and you related because you were the same age with the characters, and going through the same shit.

[@mykah2007]

I feel like They was soooo mean to Kim and she was soo underrated and moesha was such a bad friend to Kim

[@CatchSyddintheCity]

Omg when I rewatched Moesha I felt the same way you felt. Sis was mean af , she thought she was better than everyone. She was lowkey jealous of Kim. She talked down to all of her friends. And when sis turned down that brand née car I almost threw my phone at the tv, the ungrateful ness of it all bothered me. Definitely don’t like her character anymore.

[@mieshaclarissa]

I liked Moesha who I couldn’t stand was Frank, I found him attractive but I still hated him and his sanctimonious attitude towards people especially his children, the man had a whole side child hidden for 17 years that he fathered after he cheated on his now deceased wife and tried to pass Dorian off as has nephew until Aunt Hattie spilled the beans.

[@froshnel]

Moesha was honestly a horrible person, she was rude, self absorbed, shamed all her friends, was an unreliable friend, and the list goes on, It takes so much for me to actually depise a person, and she did it SOOOOOOO easily 😩😩😩

[@ulari141]

They should've made a show about hakeem, moesha was so rude all the time to all of her friends. She always had to be smarter, better, or have more problems than her friends for no reason.