MoFi $#@&%! Up! MoFi Sourcepoint 8 Review

[@scottbennett3119]

Always looking forward to seeing your entertaining, fun, and informative videos! Thanks

[@scientificaudiophile]

Glad you like them!

[@charleskatz2606]

As a former musician in the Army the drill instructor said "Always sanitize your Organ" I said "Yes Sir!!" But was confused since I played Bass

[@Audfile]

Thank you for your service, hope it gave you a lot of great memories.

[@bobclarke5913]

I like the look of the old folded surrounds and always have enjoyed the sound of paper cones.

[@clarencehoover6748]

SourcePoint 8 may also be a good choice for those of us who mill about our rooms doing tasks while music is playing. It’s a bummer if the frequency response is only agreeable with one’s head mounted strictly in a vice at the optimal position.

[@andrehendrik]

Very informative and entertaining as usual -- cheers

[@mrpeterfromgodknowswhere]

Important point in listening first, measuring after to rule out bias. I think it's quite fun writing down what I think I hear and correlate my notes to the measurements for learning purposes. The other way around you are bound to listen for the things you have seen in your measurements.

[@JordanPhegley]

Masterpiece review on so many levels 🎉🎉

[@scientificaudiophile]

Thanks.

[@sidesup8286]

What a coincidence! I was at a big Arts Festival the other day, and there was a painting on display of a dung beetle. He was standing upright, dressed in a black leather jacket with chains, like some hoodlum from a dark alley, and he had a switchblade knife pulled out & open in his right hand, and the caption read "Give me your sh*t." I once had a pet dung beetle. They like cow dung the best, but they will feast on human waste if nothing else is available. Like if the potato chips run out and all that's left are rice cakes. He was good friends with my pet stink bug. He never did his stink spray thing even once. I might have given him more credit than he deserves though, as after he passed on, I read where only some stink bugs can spray you with stink spray. Stink bugs stick to apples; they love them, they don't go for anything more earthy. They value their piece of apple so much, that if you drop a stink bug from a height, they will continue clinging onto their cherished piece of apple, instead of letting it go to increase the chance of a safe landing. Stink bugs get a bad rap. Stink bugs make good pets and are not a pest, even though they're classified as a pest. Your cat must have said a bad swear word for you to call it a dirty pussy. Didn't it like the Mofi? When I was a toddler I started saying bad swear words. No one knew what to do to get me to stop. I enjoyed MB y cussing like a stink bug enjoyed apple. What finally worked and got me to stop? They had a relative tell me " If you don't stop swearing, we are going to have to drop you in the lake." It's good to know that the Mofi speaker doesn't stink. They also make turntables and cartridges I think. If they manufacture or begin manufacturing amplifiers; someone could say they are playing a true complete Mofi system, from the speakers all the way down to the cartridge and even the lp. That might be a FIRST in audio. In a KZbin interview, a Mofi company guy said that their digital recorder that they copy master tapes with, has a sampling rate of over 100 million times per second. I figured this one out mathematically. That's way more than the number of times a helicopter's blades rotate in a trip from L.A. to New York. And in one second!

[@scientificaudiophile]

Thanks for the information. I don’t like stink bugs - they stink if I squish them. Dung Beetles can be left in your bathroom and they do all the work, unlike my mom.

[@sidesup8286]

I tried that cleaning the bathroom thing with my pet dung beetle. I found that he couldn't keep up with me. I consume a lot of Tex Mex and soda pop. At least he had the perfect owner! In a race the stink bug will usually win over the dung beetle; they are closers. When they both passed on within a short span of each other, I felt an emptiness, like there was something missing, and I just had to replace them. I got ripped off by a guy who sold me some Dragon Flies from his garden. Dragon Flies only live a matter of days. An unbelievably short lifespan What a Ripoff! They passed before I could really get to know them. That guy now rests in peace. Not over his manipulative dealings, but he fell on a pitchfork they say. In old black & white TV shows that's how a lot of people went. That and quicksand. Whatever became of quicksand. How dramatic was tha!. Kids who watched tv often, were scared to death of quicksand. Today will likely be the worst day for future high end audio sales. It's a little known fact that high end audio sales suffer greatly from audiophile gambling. Today is the last leg of the triple crown races; The Belmont Stakes. Tonight the Stanley Cup playoff finals will start. Especially bad news for high end audio dealers in Canada, as most people lose at gambling on point spreads. And the NBA finals have just begun on Thursday and most gamblers will lose there too; mostly on the point spread. Gambling affecting high end audio sales is not mentioned very often. It's a real problem for some people. I know one guy who is an awful gambler and has the worst luck imaginable. Due to decades of continued losing on bets, he still hasn't been able to upgrade his 1967 Rectilinear High Boy Speakers, bought in 1967, or his wooden tonearm or his Shure V15 Type 1 cartridge. I think he still uses whatever came before tubes for an amp.

[@medonk12rs]

What's wrong with drilling holes into speaker cabinets' bottoms? 🤓

[@scientificaudiophile]

Ask Erin.

[@DustinDonohue]

all the detail fluid leaks out!

[@Arthax83]

​@@DustinDonohue the (snake) oil?

[@Arthax83]

Which did you prefer, the SourcePoint 8 or Acoustic Energy ae 320? 🙂

[@scientificaudiophile]

SourcePoint, by a mile!

[@Arthax83]

@scientificaudiophile thank you! ❤️

[@jimfarrell4635]

Great review, SA. Fun and informative, as always. I considered the MoFi 10s when changing my main speakers recently, but the industrial looking design and relative lack of sensitivity (for my needs) put me off.

[@scientificaudiophile]

they do require a lot of power. Thanks for the comment.

[@noturnleftunstoned72]

We have to get more reviews out of you, Clockwork Burnt Orange, your guidelines for reviewing a product are the best around. All I see everywhere...MEASURENTS MEASUREMENTS MEASUREMENTS!! Would love to hear more reviews, personally, of Amps, Pre's, DACs, tone controls at the $500 to $1000 zone give or take. What is your favorite tube amp? Do you even like them? etc.... Have a great day.

[@scientificaudiophile]

Trying to get my Dad to buy me a tube amp.

[@noturnleftunstoned72]

@@scientificaudiophile or sneak into his room once at night once you've give him a sleeping pill and then take a hammer to his piggy bank.

[@krazyolie]

Obviously a different class but one reason I keep a pair of kef q100 by my tv is that it’s great for everyone on the sofa, not just whoever is dead centre.

[@jozefserf2024]

No other audio review gets close to this. None of them.

[@NosEL34]

A good review yes...but Erin's Audio Corner review of the Mofi's was very thorough as well.

[@NamorzynNieżytKrtani]

@@NosEL34 No. No other audio review gets close to this. None of them.

[@NosEL34]

@@NamorzynNieżytKrtani c'mon man, that's just a ridiculous statement. First off when one starts making claims that something is better or best is subjective... it's different for everyone. I'm not knocking this review, it was great. He shared his subjective thoughts with some objective data as well. Much better than a lot of that nonsense most KZbin "reviewers" provide. I was only saying, For Me, that Erin's review gives me a pretty good indication of how this Mofi would work in my system/room. Actually, after watching Erin's video & this one I feel I have a good understanding of this speaker. I wasn't trying to disrespect your favorite reviewer..both reviews were great in my opinion. Erin's is pretty thorough as far as objective data.

[@katebloggs8243]

@@NosEL34Haha! Agreed, but you are maybe new to SA and if not, maybe new to comments under an SA video, where sarcasm and mockery of audiophile silliness reigns supreme. "My guy's golden ears are more golden than those on your guy!" That's basically the joke you maybe missed. Plus, it's true, nobody is as good as the SA, jeje. You might enjoy finding the earlier videos where his hearing prowess is revealed. : )

[@NosEL34]

@@katebloggs8243 right on ..thank you for that, I get it. I'm not a dedicated watcher of SA but I have watched numerous videos here pertaining to things of interest to me. I like his style & find him more credible or more agreeable to how I think & look at certain things. Plus a sense of humor. I apologize if I got overly defensive...maybe my sugar was low when I wrote that. Sometimes you have to have your head on a swivel in the comment section..never know what's going to get thrown at you.

[@robertcheleden7220]

Was at THE SHOW in n Costa Mesa. Andrew Jones gave history of most of his prior designs and inspirations. He did confirm that speakers like sourcepoint 8 should be toed in or out about ten degrees

[@scientificaudiophile]

Thanks for that information.

[@wim1983]

The woofer material surface makes me remind of my old Wharfedale 435...quite some money to spend on bookshelf speakers...I suggest you to try some middle east spice rice with lamb, and a cup of adani tea (cardamom)

[@scientificaudiophile]

I've had the middle east spice rice with lamb before, but not the tea. I'll try the combination. It sounds delicious. How much wine do you put in the tea?

[@wim1983]

@@scientificaudiophile Aha, not alcohol lover, it hurts

[@D1N02]

Concentric needs toe in because the soundstage falls apart straight forward, but right at you is too intense. Point them left and right of you shoulders as a thumb rule and experiment from there. I have some Tannoy 637 that could use an upgrade to the crossover parts.

[@warrensnook]

When I want to raise the height of my floor standers, I use bricks and a pile of old stereophile magazines. Works a treat. For more audiophile tips and tricks stay tuned 😂

[@scientificaudiophile]

That's a great idea!

[@moclarkoagogo2603]

I got to heat the Source Point 10s at a demo hosted by Andrew Jones. They're the best concentric speakers I heard and the 10s give you more low bass then the 8s of course. I know alot about music history but I guess I need to watch that documentary about The Dung Beatles. I think I heard something about some lady, Ohno Yoko ruining the band

[@scientificaudiophile]

she turned them into the Dung Beatles!

[@asx1248]

I can’t believe your Dad thinks he can use your home cinema just because he paid for it. The nerve of some people.

[@sloboat55]

Your vids are supercilious, your tone is sanctimonious, and your conclusions are blasphemous, Keep up the good work.

[@scientificaudiophile]

Thanks for the compliments. I 🤔

[@ashbyedwards]

Yeah, the smartassery alone is something I’m here for and SA has earned this subscriber into perpetuity.

[@sloboat55]

@@ashbyedwards SA is no fan of sobriety.

[@TD05SSLegacy]

They’re the Bruce Jenner of speakers! 🔊 😅

[@middleearthltd]

Not sure what I am looking at but the response was +/- 20 db Since I am stupid I will also assume I am ignorant What am I missing ?

[@scientificaudiophile]

My room modes.

[@middleearthltd]

@@scientificaudiophile 🙏

[@middleearthltd]

@@scientificaudiophileThank You

[@Joe-mi4jw]

The point of a floorstander isn't bass extension. It's woofer square inches. Bookshelf speakers and a sub do not have the same punch and visceral impact of a speaker that has a 10+ inch woofer in a big box.

[@scientificaudiophile]

I’d put this 8” woofer and my two 15” subs up against any 10” floorstanders.

[@Joe-mi4jw]

@@scientificaudiophile At what point do you notice the missing dynamics? 6.5", 5.25? It's not the same.

[@scientificaudiophile]

@@Joe-mi4jw The Audio Craftsman Laval, with a 6.5" driver, could play down to 60 hz without any issues and had amazing dynamics. Admittedly, they use very high quality outsourced products and because of that, they charge $2k. But that speaker, with a sub, crossed over at 80 hz, was fantastic. My reference speakers, Tannoy DC8ti floorstanders, with two 8" drivers can play better down low, but once a sub is added, there's really no difference. I would say once you get below 6", you're going to get into issues, even with a subwoofer.

[@Joe-mi4jw]

@@scientificaudiophile In my experience 8" is the minimum for satisfying mid and upper bass unless you're listening nearfield. Distance and maybe room size are big factors. You wouldn't get satisfying punch from a pair of 10" woofers from the 15th row of a movie theater. It's just curves.

[@Joe-mi4jw]

@@scientificaudiophile I got a pair of ATC 110s 10 years ago, best deal ever, and in my opinion this is a transformational experience when it comes to dynamics. You can watch Transformers at theater volume or Beethoven without any audible distortion. It's 2 9" woofers but they don't have big surrounds so they're not doing big excursions. I guess they dump a ton of energy into the visceral range and it is not comparable to any small speaker. They do enough deep bass, it mainly depends on how close they are to the corner. I've got subs, old but good Infinity Intermezzo 1.8 and Velodyne DD18. I recently had the amp fixed on the Velodyne and that driver is impressive looking. The Velodyne is in another system and the Infinity isn't hooked up. Watched batman with my 6th grader last night and that is a rock 'em sock 'em robot system holy crap.

[@carminedesanto6746]

Watching and listening ☕️

[@scientificaudiophile]

hopefully with audiophile quality iem cables.

[@carminedesanto6746]

Bingo ..and I can’t thank you enough for enough. 🍻

[@CarlVanDoren61]

Fourth baby mama ❤ Chicken Alfredo w side dish of Bruno 😮

[@TriAmpMyFi]

Replace stands with a stereo pair of woofer cabinets instead of a mono sub in a corner. Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊

[@keytrackmusicreviews]

I really hope that Bish reaches out to you one day soon.

[@scientificaudiophile]

And proposes marriage?

[@keytrackmusicreviews]

@@scientificaudiophile To let you kiss her feet. Not her hands, though. Too risky.

[@mikeherbert1343]

Great to see Helmholtz again 😊.

[@AnthorOne]

Maybe invest in prompter if you want to look like you are constantly in eye contact with the audience?

[@scientificaudiophile]

I prefer to look aloof and uninterested in my audience.

[@juliusward5291]

1:15 in: 10 years ago $8,000 equivalent to 8 million today…1000 times inflation…um, what? Surprised no comments on this.

[@scientificaudiophile]

Now there is. Thanks!

[@katebloggs8243]

If Dr Evil would have asked for $1 million to not blow up the moon in 1964, how much would it cost in 2024 to save poetry forever? That's right: One Jillion dollars. Same formula. Use it to impress party guests and visiting audio snobs.

[@riccitone]

Great review…but…um…what did you say about jazz?!?💩

[@thinkIndependent2024]

Please listen to your system @ 3pm CST I can hear 8 million dollar Sound from my house when played any where in the World

[@bareknuckles2u]

I would like to get these, but I would have to live the shame that comes from random youtube-comment-guy that these are manufactured in China, and right now in my life it is so important that I feel accepted by random youtube-comment-guy. Otherwise, my self-esteem will take a beating.

[@davidmorgen4558]

Do you like Folk music..?

[@scientificaudiophile]

There’s no good organ folk music.

[@stanmyers5994]

Call me old call me stupid, I really don't get all these mini coax speakers with ridiculous prices, is it just me?

[@scientificaudiophile]

Maybe. The SourcePoint 8’s are really good.

[@Starch1b2c3d4a]

Too much sarcasm bro. Cant tell fact from fiction in your reviews sometimes

[@scientificaudiophile]

No sarcasm in any of my videos. You must have me confused with another reviewer.

[@metatron007]

I have to disagree with your comment that you cannot change the height of your speaker stands, some of them you can like my Atacama SLX400 which they are now because I purchased them as SLX500's, yes that's right. I called up the company and asked to purchase the 400's legs and they sold me them directly, yes you read that right, directly. So it is possible and you can tell pussy-cat that as well. Peace out S.A.

[@scientificaudiophile]

That’s a great company. I’ll have to look them up.

[@richfromtang]

6:15 "could care less" seriously?

[@scientificaudiophile]

Yes. The woofer isn’t affected by the tweeter. The tweeter is significantly affected by the woofer, in a concentric design.

[@jts64083]

If the tweeter could care less, it would.

[@zizendorf]

No! I don't need subs! That's such nonsense. Just buy a decent set of floor standing speakers. I love my Tannoy Revollution XT 8F's. They don't need a sub!

[@scientificaudiophile]

I love my Tannoy DC8Ti’s. They need subs for movies, but not music.

[@zizendorf]

@@scientificaudiophile Yup! Thanks for the reply. I don't mix my "genre's". Music's in the Livingroom and there's no TV. Subs and movies, okay but not in my system.

[@zizendorf]

@@scientificaudiophile Perhaps I'm just an unusual 'audiophile'. Why? Because my first priority is the quality of recordings I purchase and collect - whether vinyl or CD. Next, I would never purchase speakers that were not fully functional, i.e., not needing a subwoofer to recreate music as it was intended to be heard. Any set of speakers I purchase will cover the full range of human hearing. LOL When's the last time anyone recorded a musical note of 20 kHz?! Likewise, it's good to know the lowest note of a grand piano, string bass, and electric bass.

[@Astro-ck6mh]

*30 degrees

[@CarlVanDoren61]

Mofi Sourcepoint 8 Upgrade kit $446.00/$680.00 GR Research Audition Heretic AD612, Toronto

[@davidmorgen4558]

Yes thats true but theres Richard Thompson whos absolutly Great! .didnt g.r research. research review them for upgrade?