Mogami-class frigate | A Japanese frigate at last

We are investigating the Mogami-class frigate of the JMSDF, the warship that tells what is changing in the region. #Mogami #frigate #JMSDF
Why did Japan decide to have a frigate now?
What are the differences between the Mogami-class frigates and other modern counterparts?
Are the Mogami-class vessels, also known as the 30FFM-class, ready for duty?
What capabilities will these frigates gain in the future?
00:00 Introduction
01:18 Historical background
01:49 Programme history
04:20 Design
05:50 General characteristics
06:32 Current armament (Mk 45 Mod 4 naval gun, SeaRAM close-in weapon system)
07:21 Future armament (Type 17 - SSM-2 - anti-ship missile, ASM-3 anti-ship missile, naval version of Type 03 Chū-SAM air defence missiles, Type 07 anti-submarine warfare missile, remote-controlled weapon stations with 12.7mm machine gun)
08:53 Analysis
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[@enshongmiranda]

Beautiful frigates and even more amazing is how quickly Japan is building the Mogami-class ships.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Sorry, not beautiful.

[@hayat7913]

I bet they already have tons of new weapon blueprints in their storage

[@chitcheung3355]

Beautiful frigate！！！

[@jmz2154]

@@WALTERBROADDUS LOLZ

[@JohnDoe-yq9ml]

They’re pretty small and basic ships. That’s to be expected.

[@pinioio9143]

As a Japanese, I am deeply grateful to you for making such a informative video about Japanese military! Well-organized and illustrative as always.

[@903IDFOLEY]

Glad to see JMSDF keeping alive the tradition of including a disproportionately tall mass on their warships.

[@ricdale7813]

The mast is tall yet its smaller signature or thin bullet encasement hides a bevy of antenna and electronics within a somewhat stealthy structure whereas many other naval ships have antenna and domes dotted about the upper structures and higher visibility on radars.

[@YaMomsOyster]

Bring back the Japanese Pagoda mast ….the good ol’days

[@philchristmas4071]

Japan has a long history of making quality ships. Nice work with the new frigate, its a sleek looking design. 🇺🇸🤝🇯🇵

[@s_n_gstein4027]

The need for FFMs for the Maritime Self-Defence Force is due to a shortage in the number of naval vessels. The reason lies in the rapidly increasing number of Chinese naval vessels. The situation is that old wooden minesweepers are chasing and monitoring the Chinese fleet. The Maritime Self-Defence Force (MSDF) has no desire to fight a fleet war against the latest Chinese ship, Type 054A, by means of the FFM; the main purpose of the FFM is to rush anywhere in the Indo-Pacific region and bring its influence. It has a long range for a frigate, can berth in relatively small ports thanks to its side thrusters, and can handle any mission with just one ship. It is unlikely that the MSDF seriously envisages anti-ship missile fire by naval vessels. Rather, anti-ship warfare has historically been the job of the submarine fleet, with the 22 modern submarines being the mainstay of the fleet.

[@WarWithIn]

Every time I watch one video, I go down the rabbit hole and watch others 🤣😊 As always, very short informative and good quality 👌 videos 😊

[@visualserge]

The most notable part of Mogami class is it's UNICORN tower.

[@afpwarmodernizationarchive1320]

Its called the tower of avalon

[@uA-gy8wk]

ん?流れ変わったな

[@Alcadeias01]

See Singapore's Independence-Class Littoral Mission Vessel.

[@user-sl6gi4et3n]

@@uA-gy8wk 完　全　勝　利

[@innocentpasserby9632]

It would be nice if it had destroy mode where the "horn" split open and glowing red lines start to appear.

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Good value-for-money when I last looked.

[@kristoffermangila]

The Mogamis are named after rivers, a naming convention previously assigned to cruisers; in fact, the first Mogamis shared names with the last two cruiser classes of the Imperial Japanese Navy, the Mogami-class heavy cruisers and the Agano-class light cruisers.

[@smartfrenandromax6651]

The video didn't focus on the Ship's Unicorn stealth antenna module. Can be easily replaced as a single unit. And a back-up is available on land.

[@antonleimbach648]

Japan has always been a leader in new ship design and battle strategy. They showed the world how to use aircraft carriers in combined operations at Pearl Harbor. I’m glad they are allies. Their proximity to China must weigh heavily on their minds.

[@user-ye6zk3ud3k]

I hope that china will be separated to 40~50 countries over a few decade.

[@xiaofw686]

If you had some common sense about China's thousands of years of history, you wouldn't say such ridiculous things. As a South Korean under the colonial rule of the United States, and as a puppet president like your idiot, you should be more worried about whether Seoul will be destroyed by the atomic bomb destroyed by Kim Sam Pang. . .@@user-ye6zk3ud3k

[@musa7010]

They will still remain Chinese 😂​@@user-ye6zk3ud3k

[@tjd4600]

Sleek and elegant design👍

[@muktadirbhuyan7281]

Please make more videos of Japanese weapons . Specially about their missiles ( anti-ship,anti-air) their is almost no videos about them.

[@CapitalRoach]

Nice try China

[@farrasnfl830]

honestly yes. there aren't enough vids talking about japanese, chinese systems and they're very interesting

[@muktadirbhuyan7281]

@@CapitalRoach what's ur problem bro, having a bad day

[@muktadirbhuyan7281]

@@farrasnfl830 yeah people hugely underestimate Chinese and Japanese weapons becouse of Chinese coping nature thinking their weapon systems are inferior to the west counter part and Japanese becouse of their pessimistic nature forgetting that they one of the most technologically advanced nation even more so then America ( purely my opinion).

[@fromfareastindy8234]

Let me tell you the fact that Japanese people want to know about Japanese missiles as well. The reason is that the Japanese Ministry of Defense does not publish any accurate figures on the range, which is an important aspect of the missile's performance. In some cases, the range of the latest missiles is the same as that of missiles that are decades old. (Of course, this cannot be true. This is not only because of the need to maintain classified information, but also because of the fear that Japan might possess an invasion capability reminiscent of the Imperial Japanese Army that prevailed in the postwar era. Recently, the public's desire to have a deterrent to the expansion of China's military has gradually, but gradually, become less and less of a traditional political consideration. However, the trend toward not disclosing much of the performance of sensitive weapons such as anti-ship missiles, or at least understating their performance, has continued. The fact that Japan has not exported missiles is one of the reasons why it has not been willing to publish figures, as there is no need to advertise their performance.

[@blackmamba3427]

Awesome analysis and presentation 👏

[@user-sm9ru8hi9c]

Everyone seems crazy about missile discussions, but he's also a sea mine war fighter

[@user-xl9qw7yk7c]

Mogami makes the chinese sailors thinks twice to enter the japanese straits because he laid sea mines there😉

[@user-sm9ru8hi9c]

@@user-xl9qw7yk7c Yes! Then, along with the spawning ability, the minesweeping function is used to destroy impurities on the seabed. In that case, in addition to sea mines, it does not discriminate against the sinking and concealment of the Kilo-class submarine and its siblings.

[@GM-fh5jp]

@@user-xl9qw7yk7c **She**..it's not a Russian ship...

[@killerdoritoWA]

This appears to be a better deal than our LCS. Looking forward to the upcoming Constellation class frigate.

[@Kenny-yl9pc]

Nice cant wait to see that. I love the mogami class it is just the most beautiful ship. High tech ship with a punch and style.

[@pratyushojha]

There is something about the non agis ships of JMSDF that just makes them beautiful. Almost like a thought process that resulted in the Pagoda masts of imperial Japan have been given modern design language.

[@cosmoray9750]

Patrice Lumumba

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

We have different ideas of beautiful.

[@amarjeetbadhani3616]

JAI HIND 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳 Nice frigate and good video to watch..

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Excellent stuff bro

[@BaronEvola123]

Such a smart acquisition system, putting it up for competition, going for sea trials and then putting in the weapons platforms.

[@erkanylmaz5564]

Her videonuz ayrı bir belgesel tadında. Teşekkürler.

[@raygow1655]

As a Chinese, I really hope Japan's military power could grow fast enough before the conflict in west pacific comes true. As a normal contary, Japan may stop the disaster from happen.

[@GM-fh5jp]

Getting rid of Xi would be more effective...

[@hl8216]

maybe you're the first chinese I met who has that kind of opinion and wisdom when either side gains superior military power, the balance of power crumbles and war happens. If both sides becomes strong equally, each other thinks again about starting an invasion, considering the amount of damage. And mostly how the countries surround them will react when BOTH collapse.

[@TelpPov]

Once Japan breaks free of US's shackles and actually fight for its own interest or the interest of Asia like it touted before WWII, then the conflict with China is gone. They can prosper together to overcome the West's exploitive international order. They need to remember it was the US and the West that put the breaks on 70s Japanese economic miracle and sunk it and same way they are treating China right now.

[@poniso9142]

i am japanese. sorry, my english is poor. China has undergone a tremendous military buildup over the last few decades. We have to deal with that reality. However, China says that we, Japan, are expanding our military. We say it over and over again. Our Japanese constitution, which is the supreme law of the nation, "We will not solve problems between nations with war." wrote. repeat. "We will not solve problems between nations with war." However, it is a different story if it is invaded. oppose vigorously.

[@maccheese8379]

@@poniso9142 japan is under US occupation , you are literally already invaded

[@manikhasan1916]

Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩😘

[@GM-fh5jp]

Beautifully engineered ships built with typical Japanese reliability and flair. They do however. badly need their VLS installed given the current regional geo-political tensions.

[@wodinloki9504]

Looks very nice. I bet it is a dream to serve on. There is no waste on that design wow look at the way they did the comms/radar and control rooms etc.

[@petesheppard1709]

Those are really slick-looking ships!

[@good2goskee]

looks pretty cool!

[@japantour9136]

Wonderful video my friend ＋👍🔔

[@AlexSDU]

Nice to see Mogami class come out again in modern form. Too bad it's sister ship Suzuya is not part of this new Mogami-class.

[@ringoffire4691]

Beautiful .

[@tomsmith2587]

Japan is back!

[@user-yh5tw2yk6n]

This Mogami class ship may become the style of new Japanese destroyers in the future by inheriting the armament of the Akizuki, Asahi, and other destroyers and its own features of its stealth capabilities and minimal number of crew members. This ship is a frigate multipurpose/flagship (FFM) planned to commission 22 ships in service, and exported to Indonesian Navy in upcoming years. However, it lacks an anti-aircraft missile armament, (VLS only 16 cells ) which is a concern as a deterrent against the Chinese navy.

[@Frost-01]

well The Akizukis and Asahis fill that role and gap

[@user-yh5tw2yk6n]

@@Frost-01 However, the JMSDF must consider a successor to the destroyer Murasame class in the each escort fleet. I believe that the Mogami class will replace the Abukuma and Asagiri class destroyers that are comissioned under the District Forces. In the process of creating a new destroyer to replace the Murasame class, I feel that the design of the Mogami class will be taken over and the equipment such as from the Asahi and Akizuki will be inherited as well. Although, this is my speculation so don't mind that much.

[@Frost-01]

That role can easily be filled in by the Asahi/Atago/Mogami classes quite easily although the Mogami's might suffer due to lower vls count but other wise the Atago's would be centerline for that role

[@cedriceric9730]

anti air armament could be covered by a specialised vessel in the task force

[@Frost-01]

@@cedriceric9730 that would be the Akizukis and Asahi class respectively as they are purpose built Anti Air warfare Destroyers

[@habahan4257]

Nice analysis. It will be a good warship in the future. Today, it is just a patrol vessel with a big gun

[@GM-fh5jp]

Patrol vessels have advanced radar, mine laying/ detection systems, anti submarine and surface target helicopters with hangar and CIWS? Umm...

[@habahan4257]

@@GM-fh5jp like the Hamilton-class cutter of its time. Plus It had anti-ship missiles

[@CriscCiaddu]

Also called Frigate Remember that Destroyers and Cruiser aren't the only frontline warships.

[@kazuhassideprofileswifey2179]

Reminds me of UK Type 45 destroyer

[@Idahoguy10157]

The designations of frigate versus destroyer is irrevelant. Both are used to large surface warships. In many navies.

[@williamstephens9945]

Sugoi! 🛳️🗾

[@eddiecharles6457]

Aye... She's a beautiful ship, captain.

[@watermirror]

11:50 it's actually realistic for a 5500t ship to be a destroyer. An existing example is the 5750t Sachsen-class. It's just Mogami was designed as a frigate. Even 4400t Belharras (even 3200t Formidables) has 32 Sylver VLS. Thus had the goal was destroyer, Mogami would've been easily designed & built as one

[@riccardogemme]

Well, I'll once again make this suggestion. Even more relevant this time since we're talking about a frigate. A video on the italo-french FREMM class frigate would be welcome considering how present it is in the Mediterranean and that the US is adopting a version of it for its next frigate class, which will probably make it one of the most ubiquitous vessels in the sea.

[@WeaponDetective]

A lucky request. Our next Weapon Detective-Sea video will be the FREMM. Please wait

[@riccardogemme]

Good to know!

[@lifewater123]

@@WeaponDetective good to know more about our future flagship 🤝

[@suhan8382]

It looks sharp as Katana

[@neilstern7108]

Nice, Australia might like a few.

[@Joshua_N-A]

How old are the Anzacs now?

[@TheLittleMaestro2911]

Please make videos about vt-4,5 tanks Hq-9,16 sams and J-31 fighter jet

[@WeaponDetective]

Thanks for your interest. We have added these systems to our list. We will make a video as soon as possible.

[@afpwarmodernizationarchive1320]

What are these wweapons and who invented them

[@markymark3572]

Seems very well armed when u read the specs

[@user-ci8gz3ch8i]

軍事マニアの外国人は起工から進水まで１年で建造、その後１年半で艤装＋公試を経て就役に驚かないのかな？（２年半で完成） 他国のフリゲートは、起工して就役（完成）までに４年～１０年かかるのに・・ Wouldn't a foreigner who is a military enthusiast be surprised that it takes one year from Laid down to launched , followed by a year and a half for ship trials and then commissioning? (Completed in 2.5 years) Frigates from other countries take 4 to 10 years from Laid down to commissioning (completion)... （DeepL Translation）

[@poniso9142]

どういう意味?

[@poniso9142]

@@sky-dc5tq 半年経って返事するとか、あんた相当暇なんだな

[@mocho.]

もがみ型、DEの役割をしなければならないことからDDを解放してあげられるしOYQ-1を装備して文字通り艦隊の情報処理を担う重要な船なのよね ハードよりソフトを重要視した次世代の護衛艦

[@tommykaung5882]

Its Unicorn tower reminds me about Mobile Suit Gundam RX-0 Unicorn.

[@uA-gy8wk]

流れ変わったな

[@smartfrenandromax6651]

Yes. Secret Space Program. Next… Alicorn Gundam & Alicorn Submarine.

[@smartfrenandromax6651]

Yes. Secret Space Program. Next… Alicorn Gundam & Alicorn Submarine.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Anaheim wanna start another war to get even richer

[@wiryantirta]

They should bring back older classifications. JMSDF's 8 Kongo/Maya destroyers along with USN's ill-fated Zumwalts should be called cruisers by their displacement alone, on top of their ability to act as command centers in flotilla operations. JMSDF's Akizuki-class destroyer "escorts" are more in line with what destroyers are supposed to do.

[@magecraft2]

Seems they are combining what the UK is doing in 3 frigate types into one. Will be interesting how it all works out, I believe type 32 will be doing the mine role for us. I wonder how good the Mogami's will be in CV protection role?

[@johnyeomans3136]

It only has 16 VLS so it's definitely more ASW as Japan, unlike the UK, has plenty of destroyers to use for air defence. That said, 16 Mark 41 cells with quadpacked ESSM is a lot compared to the pitiful Type 31

[@Stray_Cafe]

Simply explain, like a Frigate version of F-35, stealth, AESA with EA & ES(also called as RF sensor), 360 monitor, network systems, and controls drone too.

[@dattran7804]

Can you make a video about la fayette class frigate

[@markymark3572]

Generally well armed but in need of a CIWS to top that off

[@capn82]

This is what the LCS could have, and should have been. Affordable, effective enough, fast to build. Affordable.

[@kreb7]

Is so beautiful

[@stephenbritton9297]

Seems to me, the differences between different type names of surface combatants is rather arbitrary and up to the country of origin.

[@craig4867]

ULTIMATE TEST - GODZILLA!

[@jameskruse537]

Given the history of the IJN Mohamed cruiser, I am not sure I would want a whole class of ships carrying this designation,

[@diligentone-six2688]

With their Rifles now getting modernized, Joint projects with the British for a new Fighter and with new Warships, they need to start Upgrading their Ground Forces equalling their Capabilities with the US Military.

[@oneinsilence1121]

I mean, it’s a bit less of a worry there. They’re an island nation, and so the ground forces can take a back seat (relative to air and sea power). Definitely wouldn’t hurt to have it, but they have a budget, and if you can keep enemies from being able to sail over or parachute in, then it’s not as necessary to have that much investment in tanks or whatnot.

[@jojosanchez3584]

Upgrade with 32 virtical missile frigates the best

[@georgesmith8113]

👍👍👍👊

[@olivierpuyou3621]

👍👍

[@Abbyyaann]

Next : JMSDF Destroyer with Aegis Combat System

[@kalui96]

日本人見てる?

[@enigmakashman3501]

みてますよー。

[@pinioio9143]

日本人やで

[@user-dr1le1ei8d]

ﾉｼ

[@etindia7502]

Make a video of Russian Admiral Gorshkov class frigates

[@abcdefgh-hz6pk]

Please make video on new nilgiri class frigate of india

[@criostoirashtin11]

Australia should have bought these for their ASW ship

[@suhan8382]

Can we have a video about S.Korean destroyer

[@LeonardoVisperas-dv1dw]

But i think this frigatr still need more fire power . Suppose to be the installed 32 vls and 4 four quadrople ships to ships missle and rolling airframe missile to make it more powerful warship.

[@lifewater123]

Indonesia navy must have it 🤭 After 8 heavy frigate, 6 Fremm Bergamini class and 2 Iver Huitfeldt class contract effective

[@valiant8730]

Lol you guys don't have money to paid it off, even by foreign loan

[@HippieTomatto]

@@valiant8730 let us see...

[@TheMormonPower]

Seem like a big expensive ship to build, just as a weapons platform for one 5" gun, and a couple of torpedo tubes 🤔 You would think a 400' ship could easily mount two, three gun batteries of 5" or 6" or even 8" guns...A very big ship for one measly pea shooter of a gun.

[@user-ci8gz3ch8i]

日本は金持ち国なのでフリゲート艦が約470億円（３億4216万ドル）は安い。高いのは通常の護衛艦で７００億円。 Japan is a rich country, so frigates are cheap at about 47 billion yen ($342.16 million). The expensive one is a regular destroyer at 70 billion yen.（DeepL Translation）

[@GM-fh5jp]

Perhaps you should watch the video where they mention several times the soon to be installed VLS missile launch system. Gun batteries? LOL No...they went out with WW2

[@steveman888]

Indonesian navy will purchase these beautiful frigates . 👍💪

[@widescreennavel]

What about the jobs of the lonely porthole manufacturer?

[@szymonziolkowski5967]

They should build aircraft carriers as well. ^_^

[@oneinsilence1121]

They’re not allowed to by their constitution, but good news! They have those COMPLETELY UNRELATED multi-purpose destroyers that just so happen to be in retrofit plans to be capable of fielding F-35s

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Already are.

[@VirgoShelter]

Kaga helicopter destoyer

[@COLT6940]

Izumo class will carries f35b.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Already got the Izumos.

[@user-nq5ud3xi6o]

멋진 스텔스함이네요

[@Forevertrue]

Japan has to decide what it's future naval strategy will be. A well armed frigate can be as effective and any destroyer and cost less to operate with todays modern missiles. I would consider a missile drone under it's own power that can be tethered to the frigate for missions designed to thwart the Chinese. Since the Japanese do not have to travel far to see the enemy since it's China, a drone under its own power with the missiles targeted and launched from Frigate instructions would be a formidable duo.

[@exgangster843]

Who th hell comparing mogami to LCS. How good is LCS' radar capability? Now compared that to mogami ...... And that'll be a big difference when mogami add VLS.

[@lydioconception3470]

At last Japan now has frigate Before they were only destroyers and patrol boats

[@benedictomanlupig285]

Para sa akin redundant na dahil may corvette tayo gagawin ng Korea, na mas armado sa anti air at anti surface na puede dumepensa sa flotila, Ang weapon spec ng Mogami ang anti air nya limited lang at purely anti surmarine st anti mines warfare. Dapat kumuha ng Frigate na 150 meters at may VLS na 64 anti air, ship, at surface missles at 8 anti surmarine missiles at ang anti mines at mines counter measure assigned na lang sa opshore patrol vessels 94 meters o kaya sa jose rizal class 107 meters na ang Mogami class frigate 133 meters...

[@seraipandan8560]

Mogami gawaaa, Yukko - Nichijou

[@bemenaign5361]

Yes, FFM Mogami is named after Mogami river.

[@jasonsmith1143]

next carrier will be called Yamato

[@Tattle-by-Tale]

Would be cool.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Nah, Japan is considering a 20K ton class Aegis BMD vessel.

[@danielpadilla7601]

Lol

[@Willys-Wagon]

The reduction of 22 order down to 12 is undermining it's use case. Take a page from RN experience with their Leanders, build OPVs for EEZ and FON work. Japan is going to need alooot of them, and they are going to get banged up.

[@miraphycs7377]

hatsuyuki class are already retired

[@WeaponDetective]

As we said in the video

[@user-ye6zk3ud3k]

안녕하세요...? 저는 한국인입니다.. 저 배를 보니 센과 치히로의 행방불명 에 나오는 귀신을 닮았군요

[@arturobayangos1223]

Definitely this is not a copied technology unlike it’s neighbor .

[@roughnec12]

Thats a corvette.

[@Joshua_N-A]

130+ meters is bigger than a corvette.

[@ricdale7813]

Japan puts quality,safety and survivabilty first in its Military Programs and it shows. World Class Engineering and a Great and Valued Asset for Nato and the US,Japanese, Australian contingent around Taiwan.

[@hardiyansyah6422]

Ora ngerti aku ngomong ne

[@putralgg638]

beauty ship but low armament...

[@GM-fh5jp]

For now...soon it will have a big VLS cell which contains advanced anti air and anti surface missiles and long range land attack missiles.

[@adiosadios8652]

Stealth?

[@ALWH1314]

Every Sunday morning at 10 am, the frigate will open 30 minutes for women wanted to get pregnant to tough the radar tower🤣

[@NitzWorld]

LONG LIVE JAPAN🇯🇵 LONG LIVE BHARAT🇮🇳

[@user-hc8kt2nh2x]

世界最漂亮的护卫舰，可惜是日本的！😅

[@onurbektas2927]

Turkce aksanli konusuyor seslendiren.

[@oklahoma1232]

Mogami will join Musashi & be worshipped at the Yasakuni jinja shrine Tokyo .

[@mitchi8638]

Yasukuni Shrine is a memorial facility. It is not a facility that enshrines weapons.

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

​@@mitchi8638 it also enshrined remains of war criminals.

[@bradjohnson4787]

90 sailors, crap!

[@Joshua_N-A]

You know what Japan's known for? Low births and jobless parasite adults who still live off their parents' money, NEET. Search what that acronym means. Japan has its own social issues. If JSDF recruit most of the lost generation, Japan would rival China in terms of manpower and perhaps become the largest military in the world. Plus Japan is into automation these days and so are other advanced nations like the US.

[@scottsauritch3216]

LCS, biggest BUST in US Military History!!...

[@Joshua_N-A]

The US could've get the Akizuki design as its navy's new frigates rather than spending more on something that is wasteful.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

Sorry , I hate the design. And the lack of actual deck space is a is a thumbs down for me.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Ships these days no longer sword fighting. They've started to become snipers.

[@oz394]

I believe this ship is overrated. Weapon Detective, you definitely exaggerated Mogami's capabilities. It does not have the proper weaponry. Chinese Type 054A class is much superior.

[@user-xl9qw7yk7c]

Yeah just estimated it. 30FFM 16 VLS: 8×4(32) ESSM medium SAM or 8 A-SAM Long range SAM + 8 07VLA ASROC VS 054 32 VLS: 24 HQ-16 medium range SAM + 8 YU-8 ASROC. This just because the chinese doesn't have quadpack MRSAMs in their inventory, although they still developing today. So 30FFM wins😀

[@uA-gy8wk]

The weapons owned by the Chinese military are on the same level as Russia and India.

[@regregan6852]

@@uA-gy8wk what are you basing that on out of interest?

[@user-gr3po4xv6f]

전범기…거슬리네.

[@Judau69Haman]

Yes, war criminal flag. ...Only in Korea lol

[@user-gr3po4xv6f]

@@Judau69Haman 한국에서만…그건 일본이 잘 숨기고 잘 왜곡해 왔었기 때문. 그런다고 전범기란 사실이 사라지지 않음. 나찌의 하켄크로이츠와 전범기가 뭐가 다른가? 일본은 저 깃발을 예전부터 써왔던 것이라는 말도 안되는 변명을 하지만……일본군은 저 깃발을 앞세워 아시아를 침략했으며, 부녀자를 끌고가 성노예로 삼았으며, 무고한 시민들 목을 잘랐으며, 731부대를 통해 사람으로선 할 수 없는 잔인한 실험들을 해왔지. 과거인 일본이 힘이 있고 다른 아시아 국가들은 힘이 없었기에 일본은 그걸 숨길 수 있었던 것일뿐.

[@valiant8730]

Cry bout it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bozo

[@user-gr3po4xv6f]

@@valiant8730 ㅎㅎㅎ세상은 바뀌고 있지. 예전에는 일본의 잔악한 행위를 숨기고 예의바른 사람들로 포장할 수 있었지만 지금도 그게 가능할까? 일본애들이 얼마나 잔인했느냐 하면 '백인참'으로 검색하면 일본신문에 실린 기사를 검새할 수 있을거야. 백인참은 백명의 머리를 자른다는 뜻이지. 일본 장교 두 명이 시합을 하는거지. 누가 중국인을 더 많이 참수하는가. 그걸 일본신문은 중계하듯이 실적을 보도 했고... 이건 잔인한 일본의 한 단면에 불과해. 그런 잔혹한 행위를 할 때 앞세운 깃발 중에 하나가 욱일기라 부르는 전범기. 일본 니들이 지금껏 잘 숨겨왔는지 모른지만 앞으로는 숨기기 어려울거다. 니가 비웃는다고 숨겨지는게 아니란거다.

[@valiant8730]

HAHA LMAO YOUR COMMENT GOT BANNED🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 CRYYYYYYYY GUKPPONG