Moi Legacy: Who killed Robert Ouko? Even Mzee Moi was shocked - Gumo ||

[@geonalugala]

Just remembered Mr Justice Fidahussein Abdullah, the Ouko murder trial judge who died before sentencing minister Biwott and PS Hezekiah Oyugi. Just like that, the trial had to restart. Of course, those who had testified before him either caught cold feet, or had, themselves, died. In the Ouko matter, very many people died.

[@robertkilunda4017]

For your information, Biwotti shot Auko live in Nakuru statehouse, in front of moi. There was rivalry between Biwotti and Auko. arresting Biwotti was cover-up. Biwotti was evil person

[@DanielOwinoOgweno]

Wako and Moi were the same thing. He cannot provide anything critical about Moi.

[@davidjoseph6595]

This panell does not tell the public the truth. You can hear from their way of expression. Especially Wako is beating about the bush.

[@emmanueljuma5492]

They say, the graveyard hides a lot of secrets and knowledge.

[@dharkknight4747]

Dear Kenyan journalists.. PLEASE don't recklessly interject your guest's rhythm of conversational flow just to justify some basic hand book notes and technique you leant in media school.. it kills the overral aesthetic of a professional interview.. let the organic nature take a fluid course then dance with it as it goes.. make it seamless

[@maasaimaasai2895]

I read this and then listened to the section, I believe he made that lady confused.

[@keithmse798]

Yeah he messed up then interjecting when Gumo was delivering a very good point with senseless statements

[@kibezangalewa]

When it comes to Ouko even those who clearly know what happened chose to remain mum.....can't any of these people chose to be like Sonko and just say " leo natoboa "....

[@eliudoginia7720]

That's why my respect for Khwatenge will always remain

[@AsadAf-rs1mm]

he was Great African leader and is beyond moi.

[@molincreative817]

HE WAS SHOCKED!! TELL THAT TO THE BIRDS!

[@eliudoginia7720]

Khwatenge is reallya man.I can see all of you beating about the bush!

[@betinansi201]

That was 1995 when Moi varnished for a while from the public lol !

[@godsfiercegirl1293]

Just reading comments. May the souls of young angels at kakamega rest in peace.

[@aaronoluoch4510]

🙁🙁

[@godsfiercegirl1293]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions 😒

[@natureworld295]

Young angels wa kakamega wametokea wapi hapa . stupidity is a simple problem that can be solved more readily and you need to do so before you are destroyed

[@eedowlogistics7204]

Gumo don’t lie as we all know Moi and Biwot murdered Robert Ouko in cold blood

[@robertkilunda4017]

For your information, Biwotti shot Auko live in Nakuru statehouse, in front of moi. There was rivalry between Biwotti and Auko. arresting Biwotti was cover-up. Biwotti was evil person

[@kuchioasonga7158]

Gumo was a Moi benefactor and henchman in Nairobi through the 80s and 90s. A ring leader of Jeshi ya Mzee. I am 3 years later to respond but I am here.

[@eliudoginia7720]

And that's why all the people at the bench were jobless except Wako

[@mustrech]

Shocked about? Wako, hebu kua serious, jameni....

[@samuelkamau1777]

I wonder how moi was shocked when ouko was shot right Infront of him

[@carlingari8850]

I wonder how they talk about the dark days but still absolve Moi of all blame. So who was responsible for the dark days? All these things were happening and no one knew who was behind them? Mafi nyinyi

[@njuenjagi4983]

Good question

[@bidaarle]

gather your facts instead of saying, 'I was younger'. The Kenya media is just a joke.

[@betsysindani3171]

What do you expect from a media of SLAYQUEENs and Kings! The ONLY serious journalists are Nimrod Taabu, Swaleh Mudoe, AND the Mohameds. The rest are CHILDISH

[@juliebarmasai]

Thanks for pointing that out. The level of ignorance is bewildering. Doesn't even know those dates he claims Moi disappeared from the public, the period Kenya was without a VP, the year Wako became AG!......my oh my, it is agonising to watch.

[@bidaarle]

@@juliebarmasai it's really alarming the way our media always get manipulated.

[@Lawrencembugua]

Thanks for that remark.

[@eliudoginia7720]

My respect to Khwatenge wil remain forever

[@tomodul2619]

There's no way Moi couldn't have known who killed Ouko. Maybe he didn't know the plan but he must have known after his death how Ouko died. Kenya was not a banana republic where a whole foreign minister could just disappear. Biwott and Oyugi killed Ouko and they thought Moi would be happy with it, but after the death of Ouko Moi must have realized that coming out publicly and saying that Biwott did it could have caused many more innocent lives because Luos would have started killing Kallenjins and Kallenjins killing Luos and it could get out of control.

[@baloz8974]

It's has now revealed he was killed in front of Moi

[@robertkilunda4017]

For your information, Biwotti shot Auko live in Nakuru statehouse, in front of moi. There was rivalry between Biwotti and Auko. arresting Biwotti was cover-up. Biwotti was evil person

[@kuchioasonga7158]

Moi was a supervillian his protégés are supervillians too.

[@johnkodongo9724]

Gumo wacha mchezo,ati shocked, shocked my foot

[@zakiamwoma4647]

Among these group of people/speakers,there is one man who is so intelligent and knows much more about government,especially the late president(Moi) than anybody else. That is Amos Wako. But Wako will ever remain cagey. If you are waiting for a complete andwer,you might not get it. I believe that there is still classified information that Wako will never talk about.I am surprised he is sitting at a press conference Take it from me!!!!

[@mwamvitahashimu8282]

Amos Wako knows the truth about Ouko

[@johnsonkitsao8033]

He would be dead if he knew anything about him. Biwotti made sure everybody aware or could be having information about Ouko’s death was also dead.

[@eliudoginia7720]

He knows everything that's why mardam has passed the ball to him

[@basketballduplicate4050]

ken mijungu should be really strategic and listen...then strike...causee noow he is just likee he is in a discussion with them...

[@badmanno.1650]

He's not of that calibre... He's not a talented journalist...

[@stanelymuthomi8542]

Wako take us to that point,How were they arrested not how they were released..?? Coz you were part and parcel.

[@stardaija256]

My coward luhya brother when will u fight for us ..

[@juliebarmasai]

I just wish our journalists were more specific and factual in their questioning. E.g "there is a time Moi disappeared for quite some time" Give dates of that "time" you are asking about. Dont sensationalise information, be factual.

[@mabolokituyi5781]

Moi knew Ouko was killed by Biwott.Arrest of Biwott and Oyugi were PR gimmick

[@QuePaso-2024]

*honorable Phoebe Asiyo one of most fearless m.p back in the day*

[@muotinzmultiply88]

Raila n passport issues VS Miguna's!!!!

[@m.abdigaani4668]

Mudavadi's articulation, intelligence and class is always on higher level.

[@jgithinji4749]

What are we learning here..please guys get us some mature debate with substance..

[@shemmosoti2808]

Miguna missing in this panel

[@ruthameka]

What was the truth about Ouko?

[@kenngigi2470]

It is said Moi and Ouko visited USA during Bush administration.Ouko was more popular and favored by the American government and this caused Moi to be so bitter and nobody knows what happened later when they were landing back but the KBC announced his missing later to be found murdered mysteriously.

[@sunset8001]

It is not that Ouko was popular but he humiliated both Moi and Biwott as being the only one among those in the delegation who was able to communicate and articulate issues eloquently in Queen's English while the rest were struggling with their thick accents which Americans were not able to understand

[@Khotsa]

Sunset What you’re saying is crap. Both Moi and Ouko had same articulation of English and had tribal accents like 99% of Kenyans. Why not try another conspiracy theory

[@shamimaoko]

@@sunset8001 Rubbish

[@joshuamwangangi4110]

Everybody will stand before the seat of judgement irrespective of our prestigious positions. God is not a respector of persons.The blood of Ouko,msando,Gama,JM,Mboya, Philip Kilonzo,Ndilinge,Bsp Muge ,is crying for justice before God.

[@douglasmutuaofficial8904]

It was 13 months!

[@obonyoijohngabriel9672]

Instead of talking about the death of innocent lives lost at kakamega

[@eshmw9284]

Wanjiku ????sad

[@Nothwest]

He went to Church to Confess the Killings

[@PK-mn2jc]

WANGARI MATHAAAII

[@thakaneobonyo4911]

Now that Moi is gone can the Country reduce the number of Girls' Schools named Moi Girls this,Moi Girls that!!

[@melvinrotich6547]

He created 4000 schools in his 1st four yrs. He gave kids a reason to love school through the maziwa ya nyayo. His legacy is evident in the contrasting quality of education right now vs during his tenure. Give the man some credit

[@rosewambui8026]

MOI used to drink tea, on weekly basis .with headmistress /masters & students during his whole presidency. That's a record/legacy. Many Schools in his name was in order. Kenyatta names too

[@carenogalo8915]

@Sheelah Kattam If you watch the video clip, Moi only asked for forgiveness for things he said not crimes he committed against humanity.

[@aaronoluoch4510]

@Sheelah Kattam some Luos were part of the system FYI. Please do not bring tribalism into the discussion. You are lowering the quality of the discussion.

[@aaronoluoch4510]

@@melvinrotich6547 the Moi years were bad but there are two things I appreciate; drug addiction and alcoholism levels were much much lower, and my daughter is a student at semi-prestigious MGSN. But I don't necessarily support his actions.

[@mmuku8655]

Gathered all the Luhya geckos to studio to say stupid things about a history they cannot even remember!!! Kweli ni wajinga!

[@georgevincental9444]

ONE MAN RULE was a meritocracy to the despots who were still confined to the little level of education and shortage of advancement ie the people who were loyal to the former president moi

[@carlingari8850]

Moi must be laughing in his grave. He had these guys by the balls and now they're still afraid to call him out even after his death. They praise him but still describe his time as the dark days. Mafi sana

[@tomodul2619]

Moi is not laughing in his grave but he is very sad because now is when he realizes that after death even Kings become equal to beggars.

[@carlingari8850]

@@tomodul2619 This is what the poor say in order to console themselves, and the wealthy in order to feel less guilty about their social status. The man lived a long healthy life, with whatever he wanted at his disposal. Death doesn't make us equal, life separates us. We are not equal in death, it just happens to everyone. We don't enjoy equality after we are dead, simply because we are dead. When we die, we die at our current financial or social status. 14 students died the day before Moi died. Have we heard about them since? Hakuna equality bro

[@tomodul2619]

@@carlingari8850 Sorry brother. The dead are equal the only difference is the ceremonial part which the rich get but the Bible says the soil will go back to the soil and that's where we'll all go back to. Do you think Moi's lifeless body was feeling better than those of the poor who also got buried? I don't think so.

[@carlingari8850]

​@@tomodul2619 The dead don't tell tales. Dead bodies don't feel a thing. The problem with human beings is we think we are more special than all other beings. We are only the smartest, but we die just like cows and pigs. We eat them everyday without batting an eye. When we die we decay and go back to the nitrogen cycle just like them. It's an ecosystem and we are just part of the food chain.Death is final. All those religious fables are just stories to help satisfy our sense of superiority and control. No one has ever come from the grave to tell us what happens. And so what about the bible? This was a book brought to us by the white man so that he could rule over us, steal our resources, make us poor, and give us hope that we shall all be unified by death, and that the poor shall inherit the earth. Moi laughing in his grave is just a figure of speech.

[@tomodul2619]

@@carlingari8850 I agree with you 100 per ce! The only thing i disagree with you is that you are cherry picking what the white people brought for us like the Bible and beating the heck out of it. There are lots of things which the White people brought to us which we are enjoying and those ones you seem to ignore. Just us you said ones we die we go back to the ecosystem like things we eat that means clearly that when we go back to the ecosystem the poor and the rich go back as equal things.

[@danieljones2048]

NO, Mr Wako, answer the fucking question. Where was Moi when he disappeared?

[@georgevincental9444]

moi was behind the atrocities which were subjected to people like RAIL JENGA KARUME ETC

[@aaronoluoch4510]

Njenga Karume?

[@johnsonkitsao8033]

What happened to njenga karume nikama tuna watoto wameshikilia simu hapa.

[@mwendapoleee]

These ppl can never tell us the truth their fingers were too deep in the cookie jar.

[@stanelymuthomi8542]

It was six months without vice.

[@huggybear5504]

Amos Wako is chatting shit. Biwott was never arrested. Newspapers and TV were told he had been arrested but it was stage managed "Arrest". If Moi was serious in "Arresting" Biwott, he could have sacked him from being minister!! Matako wewe Amos Wako!!

[@mariechristie2313]

Ouko's murderers are now with him.

[@tomodul2619]

They were waiting for Moi so that the case could start. Immediately Moi was buried he just found those guys waiting for him.

[@susannyamburanyambura5006]

Mrs.ouko left home to Nairobi even after knowing her husband was coming home from the city,surely is that how upcountry wife behave when knowing the husband is coming home from the city?why did she ran away who told her to do and for what reason.....

[@georgeodhiambo598]

Wacha kuingilia domestic issues za watu wengine. Oukos murder was orchestrated by Moi and Biwott. Hiyo ingine unatuletea is just a distraction

[@expertwriter4972]

@@georgeodhiambo598 You were told but never known, just like Msando, Uhuru, Matiangi and Kibicho, Kuria and Ruto and NIS are the only people who can tell you.

[@natureworld295]

The title is misleading , mzee moi knew his death and that's why they assassinated CS Hezekiah Oyugi ogango who decided to be loyal to the nation afterwards

[@baloz8974]

It's has come out now biwott killed ouko infront of Moi

[@btac3072]

Gumo and Wako were complicit in the destruction of a whole generation and its future. Moi, Ntimama and Biwott are rotting in hell. Nothing lasts forever, why don't people understand this?

[@everlyneosuru1586]

Mr. Saint Peter!

[@jasperetale6916]

Moi was a disciplinarian. He exercised power, authority and control. There was order.

[@otienomakonyango8980]

Wajinga nyinyi USA sponsored Boko haram ,ISIS in both Syria and IRAQ and Alshaabab .In Naigeria the USA is jelous of Nigeria becoming a super-power in Africa Why is Uhuru Kenyatta preaching nonsense to his USA secret enemies?Uhuru want to cheat the world that other countries have approached them to find out how the handshake is working. Huh! Just tell them to shake hands and lie to the their gullible electorates how mere shaking of hands which most of us do all the times after church can do wonders! A leader can choose to exclude others in his/her government the way Uhuru has done. You don't need to legislate on something that is apparent that all Kenyans are equal before the law and must be treated as such. Therefore, inclusivity is a matter of attitude! A whole chapter on corruption was removed from the 210 constitution through a hired machinery by the name Wamalwa. I remember the late Mutula Kilonzo flatly refused the idea of allowing any tainted individual to vie for any public office as long as he was still the minister for Justice! BBI is a lie and will remain a big lie and a SCAM!USA will never alölow Africa to rise and become self independence in economics and politics.Stupid Uhuru & Raila axis of evil.

[@mabolokituyi5781]

So it was right for Moi to use power to kill,Maim and torture?

[@jasperetale6916]

@@mabolokituyi5781:In national interest! Nation first, everything else.......

[@mabolokituyi5781]

@@jasperetale6916 killings and torture for national interest????

[@aaronoluoch4510]

I loved that aspect of his rule. If only he had not brought the repressive part

[@GoldDiamondJewelsGDJ-mu9hn]

Anguka killed Ouko end of story. Biwot was unfairly blamed by the criminals who killed Ouko.

[@tomodul2619]

Anguka didn't have the capacity to kill Ouko by himself. That's BS. He was a co conspirator but not the mastermind period. All the people who participated in killing Ouko were all eliminated by the government of Moi except for Biwott. This was a mafia kind of killing.

[@tomodul2619]

@Gold Diamond & Jewels Your argument is very shallow that even my great grandparents who never went to school can't buy it. Ouko was not just an ordinary person like my locals for crying out loud. Ouko was a foreign minister of the Republic of Kenya. Do you want tell me that even today any villager can just stop by any minister's home and then kill him without the government arresting them. First and foremost Ouko had a government security at his home and another one traveling with him. All those things of Scotland Yard was brought by the government to hoodwink the public. The only people who had the capacity to do that was the government and Moi and Biwott were in the thick of it all. Go read Troon's book where he said clearly that Ouko was murdered by Kenya government period. If you want us to praise the late President Moi as an angel then that's for another day.

[@alexm8837]

The interviewer is well out of his depth.

[@davidlubanga5527]

Mijungu you need to go back to school. Or invest in a researcher

[@kipngetichlangat4307]

Wakubwa wanatudanganya

[@georgevincental9444]

OF COURSE MOI HAD A HAND IN THE DEMISE OF DR OUKO

[@StoryTime4AllKids]

Boy child amepata text fulani ...mujungu amesoma text sura ukabadilika haha

[@georgevincental9444]

IT IS QUITE cynical to delve on moi positive deeds not withstanding the fact that much of the problems bedeviling this nation were attributed to him

[@zakiamwoma4647]

That is untrue. Moi built Kenya to great heights

[@georgeodhiambo598]

@@zakiamwoma4647 How? When his reign came to an end economic growth was in the negative. He institutionalized corruption that had started during Jomo Kenyatta govt. Repression and dictatorship became the order of the day. People with dissenting voices we're detained, maimed and killed

[@johnsonkitsao8033]

Which heights after ensuring all industries collapsed and state cooperations went down too.

[@kuchioasonga7158]

​@@zakiamwoma4647Moi was tolerated by the West because of Cold War politics until the fall of the Iron Curtain. He was a kleptocrat.

[@isafacooh1297]

Labish what kind of news is this airing in public Television!

[@zakiamwoma4647]

What do you mean by labish?

[@isafacooh1297]

Zaki Amwoma ?

[@susankaburu140]

Tutawaona Tena mukituabia, who killed Mr saitoti/ kwanini hamukusema kitabo.Hell Awaits U

[@GoldDiamondJewelsGDJ-mu9hn]

It must be remembered that amongst many innumerable tragedies, corruption and exceptionally bad governance Moi grabbed land from a poor widow! It is madness to give Moi a criminal a state funeral, just throw his carcass in a very shallow grave somewhere in Uasin Gishu, it would become worm food and fertiliser and grow potatoes on top and life goes on!

[@jgithinji4749]

Wake us a waste of time. Tell him he is not in court here - Jesus?

[@danieljones2048]

Why is Wako beating about the bush. This was all very useless. Please have other serious people on the panel. Kenyans especially want to forget these killers.

[@simonmwangi2142]

Sugarcoating criminals and murderers like moi and Biwott won't make them saints. Moi ,responsible for ouko murder ,and Kenyatta responsible for Tom Mboya,JM kariuki's murder,.etc The two oldies were so corrupt ,and murderous.!period!! Stop being hypocrites.

[@jgithinji4749]

Wako is waste of time?

[@marvinochieng6240]

These KANU orphans should follow their dictator soon, they are part of the problem Kenyas are facing.

[@lizkimani9576]

Hizi ni story tuu....

[@sunset8001]

Wako was the most useless Attorney General Kenya ever had in fact he was a Moi's legal rubber stamp

[@geoffreyg.n4503]

Jonjo was the worst

[@georgeodhiambo598]

@@geoffreyg.n4503 But there was a difference. Njonjo had a mind of his own and would qualify to be an advisor, even if it was evil. Wako was a rubber stamp. He would execute Moi's bidding without question. That's the difference.

[@jimwandere7788]

People why lie?mr,. Gumo with all due respect?I will use the f word

[@GoldDiamondJewelsGDJ-mu9hn]

Gold Diamond & Jewels GDJ Ruto and his friends CS Rotich, senator Cheruiyot and governor Chepkwony are going to finish the country. Ruto promised alot of projects during the election campaign, those projects were never going to get off the ground, Ruto was just hoping to use those projects to siphen off public funds. Ruto looked at the public right in the eye without blinking, words came out of his mouth clearly and promised projects he knew were mere corruption vehicles. Ladies and gentlemen this is just the tip of the iceberg, if Ruto gets into government him and his friends are going to drain the coffers of this country dry. Remember if Ruto was president the corrupt CS Rotich would still be the central bank governor! Ruto and his friends represent corruption on steroids!

[@Nothwest]

He was a Dictator tho

[@badmanno.1650]

Ken mijungu should not host such interviews because he doesn't know to handle these liars... This guy is having stories with them... Mijungu is not a talented journalist

[@James_GK]

NTV. Shame. I thought you could do better than this. You are wasting our time with people who were compromised

[@eliustsuma1923]

?this media man talking about ouko, so many families had lost their belovedones , wako na phoebe wanajua vizuri japo hawatasema

[@raystingham]

Gumo and Wako were and still are even in their old age numbskulls

[@danneismail5442]

Sycophants in table discussion not even talking about the little angels who died in kakamega

[@wamdok6742]

All these were Moi's puppets!!!.....call it as it was.....he was a ruthless dictator!...did everything in his power to hold on to power!

[@mushken65]

Sasa munaongeleshanga nani kiingereza nyinyi self haters munaonea luha yenu ya taifa heri muipati nafasi yapili na lugha ya mtu yuko London nafasi ya kwanza.Useless self haters uzalendo hakuna hata ndogo

[@molincreative817]

MOI KILLED OUKO PERIOD!

[@kenngigi2470]

And many others like the late Bishop Alexander Muge,Ken Matiba,George Anyona,Charles Rubia,etc.

[@madonaldowuor470]

molin creative This man Moi was more dangerous nobody crosses his line during his reign and remain alive it is only Raila and few others were spared but atleast the have something i meant bodily harm that cannot make them forget that iron fist ruler n dictator through out their life , Ouko the late pleaded with then police commissioner Hezekiah Oyugi to have his life spared but Oyugi told ouko too bad for you as it is too late since things have got out of hands .

[@Khotsa]

Why was Ouko’s brother lying pointing a finger at government and never mentioned a beef he had with his brother?

[@shamimaoko]

@@Khotsa wake up man...

[@susannyamburanyambura5006]

Why did he accept to die period

[@edmond2014]

Who killed Ouko, is that a real question for those buffoons? Surely, Moi and the government legal (Wako) advisor knew. Why fool Kenyans with such a simple foolish gimmick as to deny?

[@mabolokituyi5781]

Why bring sycophants who can't talk openly about Ouko murder.

[@poxy263]

Aggrey Mabolo exactly my thoughts- what does Ken & NTV expect from a bunch of former Moi/KANU bootlickers...SMDH

[@Khotsa]

Ouko matter isn’t as easy as people think. People assume that when you’re head of state you’d know all murders. I sincerely believe that Moi may not have known what happened because there wasn’t reason for him to do so.

[@mabolokituyi5781]

@@Khotsa You were a kid that's why you think it's complicated.He knew everything.Ouko's security was withdrawn he called Moi and asked why Moi never bothered then the interior minister by then Hezekiah Oyugi and Biwott the Kibicho and Matiangi of today finished the guy.Mbona moi didn't ask why his minister's security was withdrawn????He knew and he was part of it.Period ! Let him go meet Ouko mbele

[@georgeodhiambo598]

@@Khotsa You sincerely believe??? What's the basis for your belief? Moi was at the centre of planning, execution and cover up of Ouko's murder.

[@eliudoginia7720]

​@@KhotsaDo you listen to yourself? You don't even have a mind of your own

[@lauraokal3435]

No. Moi didn’t kill Ouko. There is a lot of clips on you tube now on the narrative. If you watch closely you will get the the leads of what happened.

[@josephinegakii6455]

He was at the centre of it. The state machinery eliminated every witness one by one. Biwott n Moi knew th raw truth

[@shau78]

@Laura Moi's sin in Ouko is either involvement or impunity. hawezi kukaa pembeni.

[@georgeodhiambo598]

Moi was at the centre of the planning, execution and cover up of Ouko's murder.

[@otenyop]

You mean a whole foreign affairs minister would be murdered and the president doesn't know the culprits!

[@theprudentialshow7681]

🤔 🤔🤔

[@davidkibeu6523]

They think we don't know what happened to Oukos's Murder, Even Ouko was abandoned inthe U.S.A after the summit

[@abdulrahmanabubakarshariff9749]

Waluya tupu!! the penalist& the host .