Moneyball (2011) - Theoretically a Win Scene (7/10) | Movieclips

[@kornival117]

its not the soda that's important, its the fact that management is willing to listen to their employees and follow through on it.

[@kornival117]

If course it was made up. Even the Marlin's give free sodas to their players.

[@doritos6893]

i can just see all of the CEO"s watching this clip late at night then sees your comment sinking in their seat..

[@danj1939]

I disagree, it is about the actual soda

[@rmoultonrmoulton145]

That may be part of it...while this is likely just a fictional example of how "poor" the A's were relative to the rest of the league...what it's really saying is that it makes no sense to spend 10s of millions on a payroll and charge for something as inexpensvie as soda. That would send a message that your team's ownership only cares about money and not about winning and this attitude would inevitably be picked up by the players.

[@slybuster]

Great read of the scene. I hadn't picked up on that.

[@patrickking9600]

Pete had the confidence to convince Billy that his ways of evaluating players was dated, but then Billy had to give Pete, who was struggling with the major losses, the confidence he needed to trust his own formula! Brilliant plot development by the writers.

[@virusts]

Well it is Aaron Sorkin. He is one of the best screenwriters there is.

[@helderboymh]

In the movie yes, in real live he was already working with Billy well before 2002.

[@biggt0820]

@@helderboymh so that whole part about him working for Cleveland and Billy "buying" him out to cone work for his was made up? Interesting.

[@helderboymh]

@@biggt0820 yep, he joined them in 1999. It's also not the first year they started using the system, Infact it was beans predecessor that thought him the value of on base percentage. In 2002 They just used it to a bigger extend and we're more successful then the years before ( even though they also made play offs the year before)

[@armadillolover99]

@@helderboymh Well if you want to be technical, in real life Pete isn’t a real person. I know he’s largely based around Paul De Podesta, but he’s supposed to be an amalgamation of a bunch of different front office personnel

[@kbomb1235]

That look on Jonah Hills face after Brad Pitt demands soda for his players says it all. This guy could lose EVERYTHING and he still cares enough to make sure his guys have free soda.

[@ShaggyRogers1]

If you notice, Brad's character was still trying to do right by his team in the long run even if it may be after he's out of the picture. If the miracle spree never happened and the losses continued instead, he would have been out of a job just like he was talking about. Even if the season was a total bust and he was fired like the two thought they were going to be, then he still got his guys free soda for another couple of seasons.

[@kendallandrews8691]

Soda is bad for athletes. Big mistake, no wonder the As have become a Trainwreck

[@billwoods7578]

Jonah Feldstein

[@tomblah]

Moneyball II should be Billy Beane struggling with his roster due to soda related diabetes issues

[@thisishandlenumber2048]

One thing that I really like about this scene is that Billy convinces Pete to stick to his guns but he still doubts himself. He gives Billy the advice to trade Pena based on his numbers but he said things like "it's close" and "theoretically" showing that he still doubts himself. In so many movies a character gets talked to and given advice and it's like a switch flips in them and they make a complete 180 and start doing the thing they should have been doing. It's nice to see a character that takes the advice but still hesitates at first because they've only had a minute or two to digest it. It makes the full transition more subtle and realistic.

[@rsplines12]

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

[@jasonjackson5696]

_”it’s a problem you think we need to explain ourselves - don’t, not to anyone”_ What a great line & life philosophy.

[@lupina29]

Goodluck telling that to your boss . Lmao

[@yhp99]

One of those things that sounds cool, but fails in real life

[@jasonjackson5696]

yhp99 - only if you lack commitment.

[@jasonjackson5696]

ocelot. - clueless

[@yhp99]

@@jasonjackson5696 Commitment has nothing to do with it

[@Manooshen]

I love the fact he is holding a cup that says “Dad”, obviously something his daughter made for him in arts and crafts; as he delivers this monologue.

[@christinacascadilla4473]

His daughter couldn’t have made a cup that “regular.” Don’t you have kids or ever seen a little kid art class? If it was a factory made cup, then she decorated it, maybe. And you don’t need a semicolon after the word crafts.

[@kendallevans4079]

@@christinacascadilla4473 The irony here is this movie would have been so much better without the daughter and this thread so much better without you

[@aciSd]

The synergy of those two actors is astounding. Even so not everyone would see it. It is there, just watch the movie.

[@moarliekmirite]

Meanwhile it was the syringe of Miguel Tejada that was winning them games.

[@CoCotheTurtle]

Bless you for having the keen insight to see the synergy that not everyone would. And for letting us know that. Bless you.

[@nathand4500]

no one needs your opinion.

[@KebabMusicLtd]

@@CoCotheTurtle We are all truly grateful. People like that only come around sat in the corner of every saloon bar the world over. I guess that one flew right over our heads.

[@johnstjohn1987]

When you reach goals at your work as a team and get rewarded by the managers. "Free soda in the Machines."

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

@johnstjohn1987 - Accurate. xD

[@johnstjohn1987]

@@ARCtrooperblueleader for real lol

[@Mellowcanuck33]

It's the little things.

[@johnstjohn1987]

@@Mellowcanuck33 Absolutely

[@eazyforall230]

Soft Drinks of Choice

[@williammccormick2802]

This is honestly the most important scene in the entire movie

[@shamhoshino]

agreed, it even put the audience at ease

[@kevinmoore4887]

I think the owner of the Boston Red Sox saying the first one through always gets bloody. You represent change to their way of life. Buggy whips, phone books, how to build a team. All changing. People sometimes don't embrace a new paradigm. Also, when you're rich, it doesn't matter what other people think.

[@razkable]

I dont understand trading a young star like pena who eventually takes the tigers to the world series for a guy who can help you 1 maybe 2 years...thats weird...

[@kevinmoore4887]

@@razkable Hollywood decided to make taking the rejected players the focal point. Ignoring the pitching staff greatness and Miguel Tejeda going on a hot streak. Hattenberg vs Pena... close... until the Yankees or Red Sox buy him in a couple years or he sits out games for more money. I bet it freed up more money than discussed. The movie doesn't explain why Hattenberg was on the bench for the 20th win. His pinch hit homer was the focus. So who's on first?

[@kevinmoore4887]

The Raiders of the 60s took on all kinds of rejects and built a winning franchise around them. The original moneyfootball.

[@timpatterson4188]

Imagine getting traded for soda.

[@OscarGomez-pq2em]

Well at least its 3 years worth if that counts for something

[@joemckim1183]

I would be fine if it was Pepsi products but pissed if it was for Coke products.

[@matthewlazarus121]

I was once traded to the Mad Antz for sandwiches. Still hurts

[@williammccormick2802]

It's a buttload of soda.

[@jaycarrillojc]

I can't remember the exact player, maybe Cy Young, but he was traded for the funding to build a fence at a ballpark. Players have been traded to help fund room and board at hotels.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Brad and Jonah have such good chemistry in this scene. Their characters both know baseball, but in different ways. Beane is so desperate that he’s willing to learn from someone with less experience that no one else believes in.

[@Korijenkins1414]

The only thing in this scene that bothers me is that there is no way Billy Beane doesn't have enough money saved to send his kid to college. He's been a GM for 4 years at this point.

[@kevincos4450]

He probably wasnt making as much as most GM's, or even that close, working for the A's. You're right that he still should have enough, but I think he has a point. If he gets fired because his plan doesnt work, hes probably done in baseball. And in addition to college, he still needs to live off what he made, has other payments, I'm sure wants to leave a good amount to his daughter. It's a reasonable concern.

[@danlorett2184]

Didn't he get divorced though? Probably drained the tank significantly.

[@JasonPerryman]

@@kevincos4450 (To anyone in this little sub thread) He said he would pay for a player out of his own pocket for something like $150,000 if I'm not mistaken. That's a lot of disposable income he must have to afford that so it does make me wonder how much he can afford for his daughter.

[@kevinmoore4887]

It's Hollywood. There are a bunch of oddities. Why was Hattenberg available as a pinch hitter. Who was playing first for the 20th win? The pitching staff was killing it. Miguel Tejeda was a huge factor. But focus on who was playing first base. It's a great movie, even so.

[@bobbyb1233]

@@JasonPerryman it was $225,000

[@eviloverlordsean]

The phrase that I felt anchored this movie, and that has stuck with me personally forever after is, "It's a problem if you think we need to explain ourselves"... just perfect

[@s0dfish110]

I don't watch any sport but this is still in my top 10 of all time. Observational data subjected to experimental investigation, on data that was not observed for scientific reason but instead for "reporting" can be a powerful thing. Its rare that this happens but can produce breakthroughs. It's why I love the movie. It's a science movie about a sport. It's magnificent.

[@chetchelios7614]

I think this movie is as close to perfection as any of the few other great films

[@Abood99222]

To me it’s The Godfather for sports movies

[@akumadie2637]

Still cry every time i watch the scene where his daughters song plays through the car’s stereo... every time!

[@williamtaylor5193]

One of my favorite bromances in recent cinema history. Brad was great in this movie, and Jonah was a lovable geek.

[@renee6524]

Love but my favorite is Brad and Leo in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

[@shaniadirstein3650]

Jonah is so underrated. He played this guy and Danny in Wolf of Wall Street. I would love to see him the title character in a drama instead of a side character. He has so much potential

[@Rob...]

it’s a problem you think we need to explain ourselves - don’t, not to anyone

[@joeblow1818]

Powerful scene. Stick to your guns even if it costs you your job. If you are right the upside is huge and you have changed an antiquated system. In other words, keeping the ball rolling.

[@dougstevenson1503]

That's dangerous thinking though. There's a fine line between "sticking to your guns" and "be frustratingly rigid". The ability to blend the thinking is what the message of this movie was. Beane adapted his thinking as he went along, that's why Giambi got traded, and why he ends this scene getting soda for the players. If you can find the best of both worlds, you can be successful. Otherwise, you're just another "my way or the highway" clown.

[@stevenkmiller]

So in the movie "The Kingdom" there's a scene where the Attorney General is addressing his displeasure with the Head of the FBI for putting US agents on Saudi soil given the political climate in the region. If you like the message conveyed here, you'll like the FBI Director's response.

[@onelife7247]

So many gems if wisdom in this script: “it’s a problem if you feel the need to explain yourself. Don’t. To anyone...” ✅

[@dennissvitak148]

Hey..I worked for Coca-Cola for 15 years, as an administrator. Free soda, all you want. Once a week, I had my guys take all the close dated product that we couldn't sell (inside 30 days), and we allowed peeps to take as much as they could carry. Seriously, this was a pile 50 feet across, four cases high. Every week. Limit was about 5 cases, realistically. I was giving away soda to my family by the gallon. MASSIVE amounts of free soda, tea, water, and Monster. It helped that we wrote off the close-dated product, and this saved us the disposal fee. If it had sugar, it cost FAR more to take care of than it cost. Sugar is a hazardous material, or enough of it. Edited to add ... this was a massive warehouse, that had 770,000 cases of product at any one time. 24th biggest facility in the world, for Coke.

[@flynnparish9833]

that's awesome of you.

[@basilrose]

@DennisSvitak I don't understand how sugar can be hazardous, what makes it hazardous?

[@dennissvitak148]

@@basilrose - Concentrated sugars in the environment will kill small animals, and will also kill plants. Coke concentrate is considered a HAZMAT, or hazardous material.

[@1965mlayers1965]

"Sugar is a hazardous material".....so let's consume it by the caseload......smh.

[@dennissvitak148]

@@1965mlayers1965 - If people didn't want to buy it, Coca-Cola wouldn't sell it. Same with Doritos, or semi automatic rifles. Dumbass.

[@willhull1735]

The bit about the soda is brilliant. 😂😂

[@sidtom2741]

I think this movie was deeper than just baseball. It’s a big lesson about the choices we make in our lives. Sometimes, you don’t know what will happen. Billy rejected a full ride to Stanford to play for the Mets, but turned out to be a wasted decision! Likewise, he rejected the huge offer by the Red Sox, but never won the last game of the series!

[@mpthorvonericksen]

Um Yeah

[@dylankrejci9965]

No this is just a baseball movie and nothing more

[@rickrose5377]

Eighteen years later and Billy Beane is VP of Baseball Ops. and As are in ALDS again.

[@BigSteelThrill]

He is also a minority owner of the A's.

[@dannyo512]

I find it hard to believe that Pena didn’t get on base as much as Hatteberg. Dude was an all star.

[@sage296]

thats the whole point of the movie

[@andrewgillespie7430]

His obs was like .74 points higher

[@bwag14]

I think it's the price paid for those bases

[@moarliekmirite]

He was batting .218 for the A's on base% of .300, Hatteberg was .280/.380

[@tripleoo0]

Peña was an All-Star later in his career. At the time, he was still a good hitter, but Hatteberg provided better on-base numbers and only marginally less power. In fact, one thing the movie glossed over is that Peña was downright awful at the plate for the half-season he spent in Oakland, and it wasn't until after he left Detroit for Tampa that his career really took off.

[@boydmccollum692]

The payoff with the soda from earlier in the film is great.

[@leerobbo92]

I don't think it gets referenced after this by any of the players though, unless I missed a subtle nod to it at some point. Bit of a shame, even just a shot of Justice having a drink and nodding at Beane/Brand in the corridor or something would've been the cherry on the cake.

[@mattbarger86]

@@leerobbo92 David Justice in the plane. Scene 5 on this queue.

[@kourii]

@@mattbarger86 He's talking about after this. He's wishing there was a callback _after_ Beane got the free soda, not saying that it was random and not set up by a previous scene.

[@Ben_1184]

3 years was a good choice.

[@hellogoodbye4061]

He knows the A's will only give him three years, max, to see this Moneyball mindset through.

[@Ben_1184]

@@hellogoodbye4061 Probably less. He needs to have some sort of legacy, if it all goes to s***! At least new guys coming in will have something positive to say about Billy Bean!

[@Kritacul]

This movie can be in serious consideration for one of the greatest baseball movies of all time

[@AlexAnteroLammikko]

Thats lowballing it. I think its one of the best sports movies ever made and probably even one of the best movies period (not like top 10 or even top 100 necessarily but there are a lot of amazing movies) not just best baseball movies, a really niche category.

[@BlosDante]

​ Ok Mn

[@PrometheanRising]

Jonah Hill does a remarkable job of conveying that he believes in his own ideas while also showing the insecurity of not knowing whether other people will as well.

[@RandomCarrot2806]

Jaded veteran meets young rookie and the exchange between changes the world for the better, a timeless story that this film portrayed amazingly. It can be cast as father/son, master and apprentice, boss and employee, Sensei and Student and many more.

[@itsnotme07]

LOL "I don't want my guys paying for soda, I want you to stock my machines for 3 years". Hilarious!

[@SophiaAphrodite]

The thing about this movie is the dynamic of Billy trusting Pete's data 100% and Pete was sure of his data until it was put into practice. Not knowing it takes time. Billy knows it takes time. Slowly bringing Pete around by showing he trusts him and to believe in himself.

[@steveclapper5424]

Great movie! One of Brad's best.

[@SoDakJason]

People are bringing up the soda part, and rightly so because I think there's so much going on with that. Pete and Billy are trying to bring an analytic approach to signing players. Players griping about having to pay for soda is not necessarily something that would show up in that approach. It's not something that could be measured on the field. Pete, even as he's bringing in the new way of thinking, decides it's important enough to report to Billy that at least some players complained about having to pay for soda. Billy takes it on board, and appreciates that this relatively small gesture is something that can engender goodwill among his players, presumably making them more willing to buy into the bigger picture and step out of their comfort zones to play the game a completely different way (don't bunt, don't steal, work the count, etc.) than they've played all their lives. So many companies would just plow right through. "We're doing this now and we don't care what you think. About anything. Just shut up and do your job." And then they can't understand why their quit rates are soaring.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Life isn't a zero-sum, happiness multiplies.

[@ktcarl]

Beane was taking a big risk.

[@trev9168]

This is still one of my favorite sports movies and ion even like baseball

[@mag1631]

Baseball is such a boring sport for me to watch. The movie is good though. Agreed.

[@scottmann4093]

The one thing the movie forgets to mention is the A's pitching staff was no slouch that season. Tim Hudson was finished 6th in the voting for the CYA in 2001 and 2nd in 2000. Zito won the CYA in 2002. Mulder finished 2nd in CYA voting on 2001. Billy Koch finished 18th in AL MVP voting in 2002. During the entire movie the ONLY focus in on Bradford. They completely left out the fact that Oakland had arguably one of the best pitching rotations in all of baseball over the last 25 years. I guess having multiple CYA vote getters on your roster doesn't do it for Hollywood.

[@CM-rg9zg]

Yeah they had stud pitching

[@ryancrowell9867]

Really wouldn't be any benefit to the script to highlight any of that unless it fit into the cost-saving dynamic. The movie was about Beane and the changing philosophies of baseball, not the A's roster in the early 2000s.

[@MrRyan-wu4jx]

@@ryancrowell9867 they could’ve worked something in about how pitching wasn’t as effected by sabremetrics and how the A’s used their top draft picks for starting pitching. Could’ve been an interesting contrast of 3 golden boy draft picks along with hitters that were basically an island of misfit toys.

[@wvu05]

@@MrRyan-wu4jx But where is the narrative arc? The movie is already over two hours long as it is.

[@AD-df5tm]

The movie doesn't mention ALOT of things. Billy Beane didn't just wake up one day and decide to rebel against his scouting department. The A's organization had been using saber principles since the 90's under Sandy Alderson. The whole movie is largely bullshit. It's good and entertaining as hell but still bullshit.

[@robloxvids2233]

Joe Morgan's favorite movie.

[@charleslanphier8094]

Best sport movie ever imo. Except for Caddyshack of course.

[@vogelaccount5902]

I use that line now. "Don't feel the need to explain yourself [when you're the one making the decisions]." I add that last bit!

[@JoshSweetvale]

The more you doubt, the less you have to discuss. And vice-versa.

[@strategic1710]

Billy sure as hell felt the need to explain himself to the owner, and the owner had no need to explain himself to Billy. The final decision maker is the only one who owes no explanation.

[@brandondaniels9471]

_Reporter: On that critical 4th and 2, why did you decide to go for it so early in the game?_ _Bill Belichick:_ 😶

[@shubhamsharma2136]

Brad Pitt deserved an Oscar for this!

[@jugdementday1]

The question that needs to be asked is why do we feel we have to explain ourselves ? Because we care too much about what others think of us and want everyone's approval all the time. When you have integrity, inner strength and love of yourself you wont care what anyone thinks of you. But it also means that you may become an outsider cos you wont do as everyone else does, which leads to being an outcast in society.

[@sanford198]

Well said, sir.

[@derek17005]

People really don't understand how liberating it is once you get to the "I don't give a F#$K" mentality.

[@el34glo59]

Especially nowadays. It's honestly sickening how much people are looking for approval from others, and nothing else. Just be yourself and not) don't gaf what people think

[@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants]

This doesnt really work when it applied to the scouts who were already being paid by the team. If they didnt adapt to what Billy wanted he might as well just fire them to save the A's ownership money. Billy didnt want traditional scouting so to not explain that to them would hurt them personally and the ownership for wasting money on them. He did explain it to the scouts so he didnt follow his advice in this scene. To not explain yourself when you end up being right can be fine but when you are wrong you look like a clown since someone could explain to you why your idea wont work. When the Bears traded for Khalil Mack it was a bad trade and many praised how great it was but it helped the Bears become worse. The Timberwolves trading way too much for Rudy Gobert. That has bad trade written all over it. The LA Kings just did a trade that 8 times out of 10 will hurt the team. I could have explained that to their general manager and owner before the trade and now. The Kings GM can be like well I dont care what anyone thinks of me and it wont change there is an 80% chance or more it will be a bad trade for him.

[@luiscastillo7009]

"it's a problem you think you need to explain ourselves. You don't. To anyone. " ... damn

[@aldophogasperi6528]

"Now I'm gonna see this thing through, for better or for worse"... So many times our decision is based on logic in stead of common sense...Using our intellectual mind by best guessing is always the path of success!

[@SophiaAphrodite]

When we take life risks we tend to give more legitimacy to the worst that could happen than to the best. They call it analysis paralysis. A great quote I have heard before when it comes to doing something you believe in, " ready, fire, aim. ". Another one was "When you come to the wall. Throw your hat over first. Now you have to go get it." IOt is the notion of landing on shore and burning the boats,. I tell my kids to stop being afraid of taking a risk. You are in your teens. you have the rest of your life to recover. You will be surprised how quickly you do.

[@aldophogasperi6528]

@@SophiaAphrodite Absolutely go for the gusto in everything that you have a passion for. God answers all prayers and where there's a will there's a way are words to put all your trust in 😁

[@angryretailbanker5103]

Pitt: “Great, it’s a deal.” Person on other line: “Okay, and one more th-He hung up on me again! Why does he keep doing that? This is why I haven’t been able to let him know about great deals he can get on players who can get victories for his team. Oh well, maybe the Yankees will want this player.....”

[@SpiritualSchmuck]

Jonah hill is amazing in this and it's subtle

[@k.chriscaldwell4141]

I don't care much for sports, and even less for sports films. However, this film, and _Draftday,_ are superb films. Just superb.

[@pepsiguy52883]

Draft day sucks

[@griergentry8777]

Draft Day was awful. Among other things, we’re expected to believe that no one knew the terms of the initial #1 Pick trade with Seattle.

[@jimbaker5110]

Draft Day 😂

[@michaeltracy9932]

theres smth beautiful about billy knowing that he has like 20x the baseball IQ that peter has, but he's willing to work with Peter's way because he knows that his way of thinking is outdated. He's happy to step aside and let Peter do his thing because he knows he has the right idea.

[@noreenhannahgabriel9251]

Brian Windhorst was great in this scene.

[@chang-kp9sp]

This movie well casted and underated movie

[@ramjamflimflam]

I don’t really like baseball and know nothing about how the “pro” game works, but I really like this movie. Acting and characters are very fascinating.

[@DurvalLacerda]

This movie is awesome! I only watched it because of the anime "One Outs". I really recommend it to you if you liked Moneyball. It's about a guy who doesn't actually play baseball, but he is really good at reading people and playing mind games, he joins a professional Baseball team and there he uses his skills to win. He plays using numbers and psychological manipulation You don't really have to know anything about baseball to understand this anime

[@flankspeed]

I reckon the soda turned it around 😎

[@jwiese100]

They make it look like Billy had just started using sabermetrics when in reality they have been using it. It was Billys predicesor and mentor that started using it. When they won Div titles in 2000 and 2001 they still had big price players on they're team. 2002 was the season he proved that it actually works.

[@dlastjedi1627]

i watch this scene when my crypto is tanking

[@marcelpatterson5702]

we'll get to the moon one day.

[@drsus0]

The question we should be asking is why Pitt feels the need to always have food or a drink in his hands or mouth

[@madpanger7257]

Its funny how Hatterberg was the one that did the Homerun on the 20th win. Nice foreshadow

[@Sandra-n4z3z]

Very good movie It teaches us how to grow in economics and see the objectives in which we can use to grow it but I love the message😊

[@csnide6702]

The FACT that an MLB club had it's players PAYING FOR SODAS in the Clubhouse is nuts !

[@Mindcreat0r]

What’s interesting is that Peña was the better choice. He was better immediately after and long term it wasn’t even a discussion. They didn’t have the perfect system and Billy’s unrealistic commitment to it was more a statement to himself than a commitment to winning baseball games.

[@timothyeaton5198]

Brad Pitt's best role ever!! My top 5 all time sports movies!

[@jwil4905]

No. Fight Club is his best role ever (!!)

[@zytrik1]

Man that’s some father figuring right there. I’d love to have a boss like that at work.

[@lazysob2328]

I’ve seen several evaluations of the theory of money ball. So far it’s been claimed to be revolutionary and a failure. My personal opinion is it’s brilliant! I always considered a walk as good as a single and brilliant defense play is to rare in baseball to make a major difference over 162 games. It’s more a game of attrition, make the plays you should make and generate runs.

[@ninja8flash742]

Brilliant defense play is rare but greater coverage on defense in the outfield can be pretty good for a players W.A.R. (ik they are talking about first base which defense is mostly irrelevant but sometimes defense isnt)

[@electricwaster]

A single is a better than a walk when there are people in scoring position, but with no runners or a runner on first they are effectively the same

[@lazysob2328]

@@electricwaster yes David, but if you BA is less than you on base percentage, then you take what you can get. Always want hitters, but money ball is all about using the percentages in your favor, not giving the green light to light hitters.

[@j_fley6702]

@@lazysob2328 If your OBP is less than your BA, you're in trouble.

[@lazysob2328]

@@j_fley6702 that’s obvious, that’s why a team with a high on base percentage is so dangerous!

[@christianknight9016]

I thought Soda was a relief pitcher or something

[@kotk05]

Peña: "I got Moneyballed, bro."

[@AUAS]

Opportunity is everything 🙌🏽

[@mg19cal]

Why is the thumbnail flipped from the actual scene?

[@SeanP7195]

I didn’t see the movie but Dombrowski is the Tigers GM who was slowly building a top team that would go on to sweep the A’s in the 2006 ALCS. I’m assuming he’s trading for Peña here in which the Tigers would make a great trade to pick up Peña, Jeremy Bondernan who became a very good starter and Franklin German who was a solide closer and only gave up a troubled and mostly washed up Jeff Weaver. Peña was good player for a few years in Detroit then seemed to fall apart and was released. He revised his career however with Boston. It would be one of the many great trades Dombrowski would make and paying for soda (which is probably a made up story since MLB players are given a daily food allowance) seemed more than fair.

[@cityhawk]

Pena revived his career in Tampa Bay not Boston.

[@owenscarth-jones3628]

Well the A’s didn’t get weaver it was a three way trade where the Yankees got weaver and the A’s got Ted Lilly who was much better than pena whilst in Oakland.

[@Lawomenshoops]

@@owenscarth-jones3628 The original poster never said the A's got Weaver. He was just stating who the Tigers got and gave up in the deal.

[@Lawomenshoops]

MLB players don't get meal money when they play home games. They only get it on road games.

[@SeanP7195]

@@Lawomenshoops True, but I was told they had food provided for them at home. Which in itself is meal money.

[@fuzzbrain913]

If you had told me at the time this movie came out that brad pitt and Jonah Hill would have this much chemistry together...

[@wisjohns]

Some of the best advice on life I’ve ever heard

[@atabars1892]

funny thing is in 6th video Brad Pitt says i'm not gonna lose my job and this scene opens with "i may lose my job" lol

[@stephenmason9527]

You definitely still have to explain yourself to the owner. LOL

[@saint6563]

Nope. The owners put the A's in the position of bottom feeders. Owners relied on MLB income instead of focusing on income from the ballpark [the notorious 'Oakland Mausoleum']. Owners didn't care if the team was last or first; they still got the shared revenues of Major League Baseball. How do you not know that? That's the whole movie; going against major market spenders, w/an insufficient payroll. Duh.

[@stephenmason9527]

@@saint6563 I really don't care how much you hate owners, the GM still answers to them. That's how club hierarchy works. How do you not know that? LOL

[@kevinconnor6035]

Some teams make more money by not competing. Even bad teams still sell plenty of tickets and merchandise. Some would rather ensure they'll make $10 million in profit with a bad team than pay a bunch of great players and risk earning $50 million vs. losing $20 million if the team doesn't perform. The Pittsburgh Pirates are well-known for this. Their owners treat the team like a business, which they run conservatively. Low risk, low reward. It is heavily implied throughout this movie that the ownership is not that invested in the team winning. They just want to save money.

[@stonem0013]

The staff all got diabetes from the soda and died a few years later

[@pepleatherlab3872]

The soda thing reminds me of when Van Halen inserted 'M&M's' into their performance contract. They just wanted to be sure people were reading it.

[@p4rk242]

yeah, I laughed so hard when i first found out about them doing that.

[@johnwilson6271]

Free soda for 3 Years....NICE!!!

[@blue7lvn245]

It's baseball movie yet it inspires man lol tempted to watch for like 5th time, I don't even watch baseball

[@Count_Ocana]

The clip before this... "I wont lose my job" The first second of this one "im gonna lose my job"

[@johnlewis8934]

*I might lose my job*

[@Drwnifgop-i6q]

What’s interesting is that both sides have a point about baseball being a tangible and intangible game. It isn’t until the statistical and human sides are addressed that the Oakland A’s start winning

[@retroadmirer]

The problem is Billy doesn’t explain the process to the players or anyone else. The turn around happens after he starts getting everyone else to buy into the process.

[@ephemispriest8069]

I'll get you guys soda, and I'll make the people we traded pay for it!

[@web276]

Sometimes, when I’m nervous, I put my hand in my armpits and smell them... like this

[@craigjillson6050]

ya got me. thanks for the laugh. i shouldn't even know or admit to that reference. lost my man card.

[@YIDRMY]

It's not about the soda, it's about sending a message

[@IndianJone]

Love this movie. What I don't understand is the contradiction in this scene and the last scene. Here he says he would like to send his girl to college but in the last scene he denies the best offer ever made

[@linskychou]

By asking the questions, pitt was telling himself the answers

[@nelsonchereta816]

LOL Nothing says professional organization like free soda!

[@georgegonashvili9952]

Soft drinks of choice? I don't know what's better playing baseball or being mobbed up

[@speedodoyle]

Jonah is acting rings around Pitt in this film

[@peter0702]

They should have kept Pena, his OPS+ is very close to Scott Hatteberg.

[@richard_nj]

This film is set in 2002. Billy Beane was appointed GM In 1997, before that, he worked in lower front office positions for about 7 years and before that, he played 5 years of pro ball. So for a guy who is notorious for cost-effective spending in his profession, Billy Beane apparently has no clue about money on a personal level if he can't afford to send his daughter to college after that CV.

[@leafyutube]

I'm going to name my kid soda.

[@jengable4888]

Fantastic scene ! 👍

[@michaeldeleo87]

The soda clause won him that deal.

[@tengille]

Took 20 years but the book, and subsequently the film, killed the Oakland A's franchise... in conjunction with crappy owners (which is hilariously that Bobby Kotik is the owner in this)

[@dbodooley]

I kept thinking of the soda machine scene in World war Z

[@skins4thewin]

Is it really true that they didn't even provide free soda to the players in the Clubhouse during this timeframe? Dunno how such a thing could possibly be fact checked, but it's hard to believe either way.

[@majorhemroid]

When the 49er's were winners in the 80's and early 90s, the owner made sure to get all the creature comforts for his players so the players would never be distracted from the game over petty stuff. When that went away, the 49ers stank up the joint. It's how you run a business that makes your employees want to go thru walls for you, or go away from you.

[@JR-qq7vu]

Yeah this line about not sending kid to college is Hollywood drama. No way, as a former 1st round draft pick who spend 6 years in the majors, then turned scout before the GM of the As would be “out of baseball” for one season. In Billy’s 4 years as GM for to that point they increased their win total each year. Say he was fired. Baseball has 1000s of front office roles from scouts to GMs of minor leagues to all the big league Jobs. At worse he’d be an assist GM for another organization. He didn’t get offered 12.5 million by the redsox simply for a 20 game win streak. It was for his whole body of work to that point

[@declanwhelan5531]

Just rewatched on Netflix, a really really good movie. Fabulous acting . No f...ng special effects or any Bs. !!!

[@chartist_123]

Wait it’s on Netflix ?

[@declanwhelan5531]

Netflix Ireland

[@parleseniortv2685]

Why was the video mirrored.I mean look at the thumbnail

[@spencecallis301]

Missed a chance to call the soda thing " Cash Considerations."

[@codycarter2643]

Smartest analyst I ever met said once he had enough money he would build a bot that would just move money between the different currencies and make pennies on the dollar