Monthly Update, 6N Rebrand, Schmidt's Contract, Jake White on Moodie & NZ

[@designmanagementconsultanc4143]

Fun fact for you .. Charlene Princess of Monaco and Charleze Theron (Holywood) are both from Benoni. It is a working class town with a reputation for pretty tough/gritty. The joke is that Dricus Du Plessis is only the 6th strongest fighter in Benoni

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

True. I'm the best fighter. Both my parents hailed from Benoni! 😉

[@hermanvisser4034]

The best place to come see a no frills take of the latest Rugby news.

[@Jack-cx8tj]

Damn that Munster NZ scarf is actually class

[@mattutes]

You're right, we have a really good set of independent KZbin contributors for rugby coverage at the moment. I love hearing all the different opinions from different people from all over the world. Keep up the good work.

[@DistractedSports]

More great promoting of the illustrious 2CGDs aka the most significant event in all of Rugby.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

I will see you about that tonight 😅

[@bruceandneli]

Love it when your Dad gives his comments lots of knowledge he has and he has been around longer so he brings a different era and perspective

[@thomasmeehan2911]

South African podcast Saffas unscripted is also very good, love the banter between the lads, I’m from Ireland btw 👍

[@ThinusHerbst1]

Thanks

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Thanks mate!

[@footyfin]

Eddie Jones didnt leave the (Wallabies) house disorderly ... He burnt it down! Nice rebuilding going on now by Joe, Laurie and co 👍

[@jasonwall5012]

In Ireland, we do match day programmes and scarfs and other merch at every match, in all sports.

[@Camcolito]

Can't beat the old match day programme, sure why else would you go to the game?!

[@jules9123]

Thanks as always Mark. Looking forward to next year and all that’s coming up. Have a lovely Christmas 😊

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

Benoni is on the East Rand ... just east of Jo'burg central. In the good old days the area's rugby team was known as Eastern Transvaal (nowadays included in the South Eastern Transvaal Union.

[@vernonmoodaley7858]

Hi Mark. Thx 4 your up date. BENONI are famous for giving Hollywood the Oscar winning actress Charlize Theron. She is from Benoni.

[@designmanagementconsultanc4143]

Plus Charlene Whittstock

[@johnryan509]

The new 6N logo is gash...

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah that was my first impression too 😅

[@mrwelshmun]

I think it looks like a chocolate bar brand

[@willfieldsend]

I don’t like it either. But I do sympathise with them, they have to ensure it doesn’t favour any one team so can’t include Green, Red, White, Blue, or dark Blue/Purple

[@GeorgePlaten]

90s style is back in. It'll be gone again next year, but how long will we be stuck with that logo?

[@revenant2979]

I really prefer the traditional Six Nations, where I support. "Les Bleus" and look forward to "Le Crunch" every year. Although "Le Crunch" would probably be against Ireland. Also would love to see Scotland retain the Culcutta.Çup and Wales make a stunning return to international rugby by beating the English with one point. There is a theme here as a South African.😅

[@rogerday6184]

Benoni is not far from Boksburg…. I lived there for a bit, now in the USA. Thanks Mark for a great channel full of fun stats and info

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Ah wow things are all connected! Cheers for the insight

[@randomlyfactual1943]

How do tell the difference between tourists and Boksburg locals? The tourists are the ones with shoes on 😅

[@Zveebo]

Weirdly the new Six Natioms logo uses an upside down 9 instead of a 6 (typographically they are not the same). Absolutely no idea why, but it really doesn’t help with it looking all odd 😅

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah that is odd now that I look at it!

[@Joost-q3s]

Reminds me of The Incredibles cartoon

[@D_Mac72]

Appreciate all your work Mark.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Much appreciated!

[@Zion-Bear]

After what David Campese said about Schmidt and all past Kiwi Coaches he should leave. Let them Aussies lose with Aussie coaches 😅. Also Campese never faced the Haka so it says a lot about him

[@daviddewet6435]

Best Rugby breakdown channel there is mate keep up the hard work for all the rugby lovers 👌🏻

[@charlottescott7150]

Thanks for all the videos and lovely stats even when you were poorly Mark

[@TwoCentsRugby]

No worries Charlotte! Back to normal now thankfully!

[@johndcoffee632]

I don't mind the rebrand in terms of calling them men's and women's, the logos themselves are awful though. I remember a few years back they'd just send me emails saying "SIX NATIONS FIXTURES ANNOUNCED!" and it was 50/50 whether it was men's or women's, made me stop looking at their emails altogether

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah they do that with the Rugby World Cup stuff - no "men's" or "women's" - just the year - but I think that adds to confusion

[@Camcolito]

I don't mind a splash of equality now and then, but putting the women's world rankings before the men's is just taking the piss.

[@JackKinross]

Really appreciate your videos Mark, especially these news updates.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

My pleasure!

[@Dharamundi]

As a Wallabies fan I would love for Joe to stay on as Head Coach till the World Cup but I can understand why he would want to step away.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah man I think he's the right guy to build them back up. But hard if it's putting pressure on his family

[@mrwelshmun]

When you mentioned other rugby KZbinrs from other countries, had a flashback to a few years ago. Remember Gareth? I think that was his name, South African guy, sadly passed away

[@handsolo1209]

He was a great guy. It really hit me when he passed away. He would have loved the URC, back to back Springbok WC wins.

[@mrwelshmun]

@@handsolo1209 for sure! He's missed!

[@Camcolito]

Yes Gareth Mason, I used to watch his stuff, top guy. Very sad :(

[@garethfergusson9538]

Noooo don't give Jake White airtime 🤣

[@YOYOTh1s]

Dont you think the All Blacks can benefit from something similar to the Giteau law? One or two overseas based players who have more than a certain amount of caps? Definitely can't hurt.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah it could well be the way. Until Super Rugby Pacific finds its feet though I think they need all the talent on display they can get

[@GnJs6PackTraining]

I’m in favour of the giteau law. If you served at least what is it 50caps?

[@FlashPelcher-km8ov]

Superugby Must Include SA's Smaller Franchises Like Pumas Griquas & Cheethahs . These 3 Franchises Also Feed The Stormers Bulls Sharks & Lions.

[@gezzarandom]

Regarding rugby programs, I still have mine from the South Africa v Ireland game I attended at the World Cup. Sorry I can’t send it as it holds too much sentimental value 😂.

[@davidcanavan169]

new logo looks like a new radio station.

[@PaulDowneyMusic]

I think the new logo looks pretty cool for M6N and W6N. Reminds me of Looney Tunes but not in a bad way. These days, branding and logos have become more sterile and muted so I'm delighted theres a bit of creative flair here. Always gonna be down to taste but hey, they took an interested chance.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

I'm sure in a year I won't even be thinking about it. But yeah it doesn't do it for me just yet. Weirdly though I don't mind the W6N one - so yeah maybe I'm just used to it

[@johannrugby3811]

Johan Ackermann was born in Benoni.

[@daveburnham9111]

Is that thee Phil Kearns in your Patreon list ?

[@jairus1244]

I loved those match day programs i used to get at newlands. Good old days lol

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah man one of my favourite things as a kid was grabbing a program! That and my dad buying me hot chips 😅

[@3ros3n]

Thanks for the stats always interesting. Not a fan of the new M6N logo. (i am also in my 40's) Fun fact about Benoni: Willowmoore Park Cricket Stadium is used for some International Cricket games

[@johnmacdonald9861]

I think NZ would be pretty daft to open up selection internationally without having a cap barrier.

[@tomgreene1843]

Any views on Prendergast/ Crowley debate now emerging.

[@timrobinson2587]

Are you doing a superbru for the Investec championship starting this weekend mate

[@garthinator1]

The logo design for both is a lot to take in. As for the M and the W if you're gonna have one it's fair enough to have the other.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah it does feel balanced that way. I can't see many people adding men's in casual conversation but I'd rather it be clear than the RWC route of not adding either - just RWC 2025, 2027 etc

[@LeonardLeoneFilms]

That Nickelodeon 6 Nations logo is laughable. I hope someone got fired not paid.

[@viehanvanrheedevanoudtshoo6205]

Champions Cup gonna hit hard this summer.

[@pietsmit5587]

I have to agree with Jake on Moody...he looks slow too and was easily chased down on the one breakaway.

[@kevindevane6175]

Scarfs are sacred in our neck of the woods, don't be tossing them around like that. 😎☘

[@randomlyfactual1943]

In your NECK of the woods, eh? If that was deliberate, well done. Shame on you, but well done.

[@paulreynolds1392]

Kiwis don’t feel the cold 🥶

[@johannrugby3811]

Glad you're wearing a bulls jersey 😂😂😂 I will never forget the glory days in super rugby 2007,2009 and 2010 and wish they can be as dominant again as they were in those days. They seem to be like Man United, used to be incredible but started to decline dramatically a couple of years ago (eventhough the bulls showed some progress at times, they are still not near as good as the team they were)

[@IvanDobski]

💪G'wan Munster! 🦌🔴🔵

[@gdproy]

I was born in Benoni. Back in the day it had a bunny park of note.

[@christopherdewet2836]

I'm the one viewer from Taiwan.

[@creekyknee]

Greetings from Brussels. Well done Mark on continuing to deliver such high quality videos. You always seem to be able to stay neutral no matter what games you are reviewing. If you like Rugby, you will like TC's videos. Give this guy a like an subscribe, he is one of the best.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Man you're always up late! But cheers for the kind words and get some sleep!

[@alexanderhowie3570]

Schmidt hopefully stays with australia he did a huge amount for irish rugby and australia need time to rebuild schmidt is the right person world rugby needs a strong australia and the better australia play the better the allblacks play mark my words schmidt should stay with australia

[@JKMeZmA]

Keen on your thoughts on the Indigenous & Pasifika team for the lions. Will they select beyond Australia and maybe even international players from other teams. I’d be so keen to see almost an Aussie & islanders barbarians side. 1. Scott Sio 2. Folau Fainga’a 3. Ben Tamiefuna 4. Theo Macfarland 5. Immanuel Meafou 6. Vaea fifita 7. Jordan Taufua 8. Rob Valetini 9. Folau Fakatava Other players such as Posolo Tuilagi, Will Skelton, Mark Naquitanawase, Richie Mo’ounga could also feature eh? 10. Lima Soopoanga 11. Taqele Nayaravoro 12. Solomone Kata 13. Ulupano Seuteni 14. Ben Lam 15. Danny Toala

[@TheBainzz]

Yeh keen to hear a take on this! Love this addition.

[@uberboiz]

Dylan Pietsch and Andy Muirhead? Not sure about Mark Nawaqanitawase though - he is signed to an NRL franchise.

[@daniel.gibbon]

Good God, that new logo is horrendous!

[@thyuiooo]

Is it a coincidence that the six nations has rebranded just before probably the last Free to air tournament in the UK? right before it's 99% going to be behind a pay wall from 2026 🤔🤔

[@fragmentedtheory]

Shite logo but absolutely the right move in support of the womens game

[@Camcolito]

Pity we have to get a logo that looks like a dog threw up it's lunch.

[@neilshrekpurves4521]

Charlize Theron hails from Benoni 😂

[@mybadgaming6786]

Question. Do the south play more rugby than the north in a year?

[@ColinGrealy]

At what level? International? Franchise? Club? Internationally, TRC teams play 6 games each tournament (3 opponents twice) vs the 6N teams playing 5 games. Then there are tours, November internationals, etc. For reference, Ireland and England played 11 games this year, whereas SA and NZ played 13 (14?).

[@bravestarr1797]

Problem with All blacks unlike RSA is this size of the player pool. If the Stars all left to chase the bag NZ domestic and Super Rugby would suffer greatly.

[@MaraisStephane]

My first thought was "well it's stupid not picking up the overseas"... but on second thoughts actually that would mean all talented players would just leave the local competition for contracts in France that pay way more and that would lead to a poor local competition level and in the end most likely would make NZ rugby quite bad. So I think it's in fact a wise decision for the rugby side, but unfortunately not really for the players side. That will never be a win win situation.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah there's no perfect solution here sadly. We're too small a market to compete financially, but the domestic game still retains a lot of top talent - much through the allure of the black jersey. The guys we've struggled to retain are the fringe guys - it's hard to blame them for wanting to earn as much as they can given it's such a short career

[@icefarrow7959]

For me the main issues with picking overseas players is you genuinely can't guarantee whom you've selected is the best choice, as they haven't gone up against the other, domestic candidates. That, and coach tunnel vision, as they become so focussed on who's overseas, they miss the talent on display at home, *cough* Plummer, Perofeta *cough* .

[@iansinclair7581]

At least it is not as bad as the Jaguar rebrand.😡

[@icefarrow7959]

The differentiation in sex between comps is just weird imo. Like I don't think I've ever called the Women's Rugby World Cup that, just the Rugby World Cup. You know what one they mean from the year it takes place by default.

[@WillievanZyl]

Benoni 🎉😂

[@somerledislay9987]

I can see some smart arse oink coming up with the new logo thinking of the American market , 2031 and all that Jazz

[@Anonymous-xl9pq]

Benoni met my kak soek nie 🤣

[@GnJs6PackTraining]

Not a fan of the logo, but also don’t hate it. Neutral. Does nothing. Is it boring? I’d prefer more prominence of the rugby ball. And better lettering for the M6N and W6N.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

500 views from India, you say? 🤔 You know, World Rugby has this weird obsession with the USA. Sure, its a big market, its a rich market, but it is very much a saturated market. You'll see some growth there, but rugby will simply never rival the major American sports in terms of viewership or attendance. Countries like India and China are really starved for proper winter sports and rugby could explode there, if World Rugby actually wanted to put the work in. And while they aren't as rich as the US markets, they are absolutely ginormous markets. This courtship over USA rugby is akin to saving up your money to one day sleep with Cindy Crawford. A worthy cause, sure, but ultimately one that is unattainable.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah I lived in China for years and the sport is virtually unknown there. All the boys play basketball. That being said with 7s in the Olympics they'll be getting the proper investment at the government there takes the Olympics pretty seriously. Trouble is their men's teams tend to suck. The women go ok though

[@randomlyfactual1943]

@TwoCentsRugby Are we talking city boys? Here's my theory: farm boys makes the best rugby players. You get the Chinese lads growing up on farms to get in on the game, and you got a world cup entrant in ten years' time 😅

[@mungoboomdecker9711]

People only watch Wildkard for the meltdowns.

[@wlk2408]

SR should join with League One in Japan. Four NZ teams, two Australian and six Japannese teams and two Pacific Island teams. Double round home and away games. In this years IRB team of the year, six players play their rugby in League One in Japan. They have 120 million people and much more commercial growth potential than NZ and Australia combined. If SR don't expand to include Japanese teams it will be a very big mistake for the AB's to select foreign players. SR will lose so much talent it will make it the weakest league in union. If Japan joins SR, selecting players from other leagues for the AB's won't make a big difference.

[@nsd_respect]

I actually like the logo but I see some in the comments don’t lol.

[@thuthukanimpungose6005]

No channel is better than yours two cents

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Cheers mate!

[@nealgarner6431]

Hi Adam have you got any plans to go to wallabies v lions games or are you waiting till the rwc 2027

[@TelJ-x2w]

Who's Adam?

[@Irish780]

​@@TelJ-x2wI believe he is in they garden of Eden

[@TwoCentsRugby]

I did put my name in the hat for tickets but haven't been lucky just yet (I missed out in 2017 as well) - although I did make the Blues v Lions match that year with Gazza

[@daniel.gibbon]

@@TelJ-x2w He got 50% of the letters right.

[@Thudsrayz]

Re NZ selecting from overseas, how does NZ pay to keep our players in Super rugby without foreign funds? I'm of the opinion that super rugby cannot be sustained financially. That means salaries will stagnate for non ABs. To ask rugby players to forego greater financial reward for putting their body on the line for the POSSIBILITY of playing for the ABs is similar to giving them a lottery ticket. I just don't get how nz rugby thinks they're going to finance all the salaries and stay competitive WITHOUT dangling a manipulative cherry out in each player contract which they know will never be fulfilled Programs - i remember getting programs after matches in the 80s and early 90s. I actually recall my dad giving me programs when i was like 5 or 6 for games he went to but i was too young (embankment at Lancaster Park was kinda terrifying when i was little)

[@aluncurtis6124]

Don't the ABs use overseas players already with the inclusion of Pacific Islanders? Seriously though, to deny a sportsman the opportunity of financial gain seems draconian and archaic. Let them make some money while they can.

[@wouterswanepoel5753]

Flat colours used in the new 6 Nations logo. Looks lame. But then again, it suits the rugby teams involved. 😂🍻

[@georgehornsby2075]

That men's six nations logo is the worst colour clash I've seen in my life. We should have just let the Italians design it.

[@dennism5731]

The 6 nations is the 6 nations, the best rugby tournament on the planet, regardless of how they brand it. Always has been, always will be.

[@Daywalker685]

Some of these graphic designers are questionable 😂

[@Kiwi_Rob]

Hate to think how much they paid for the redesign of the logo. It's not going to be a classic.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

They also made a 1 minute promo vid which ends in "Rugby Recharged".... I don't wanna know how much it cost

[@Camcolito]

They paid for that?

[@laelienriviere5735]

Yeah the new logo is in line with Women and u20, but it's... Not very rugby inspiring and quite cartoonist.

[@relpmat]

What about squidge rugby? many people watch them? or just me?

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah that's an interesting one - KZbin lists 15 channels that "your users also watch" - and usually Squidge is in there - but not this month

[@GnJs6PackTraining]

I watch squidge too

[@Camcolito]

I can't stand his herky jerky style and stupid jokes, but just personal preference. Analysis is pretty good, if you could stand listening to it.

[@stevegates2228]

The reason "mens" rugby teams like the All Blacks have never been called Mens All Black is because its a unisex team that it just so happens woman aren't good enough to make the team, it doesn't mean they are excluded.

[@rugbymandan]

No, you don’t need one of those degrees to use your brain and eyes. Nobody needs one of those degrees 😂

[@stevegates2228]

If we pick overseas players we will weaken the All Blacks long term because all our super rugby players will play overseas, super rugby will be made up of NPC quality players and all our overseas player will become eligible to whatever country they play in and suddenly 10yrs down the track our only hope will be that we are picking talent before its picked elsewhere. Furthermore generations down the truck we will not have player like Clarke playing for the All Blacks because all our quality players will be playing overseas and their kids will be born overseas and we will lose so many great rugby genetics it will be a disaster

[@runforrestrun1965]

Weird how White of South Afrika is telling NZ what to or what not to do in their selection policies, Sorry but who cares what White says about NZ rugby’s way of doing things. Stick to his own knitting.

[@71bootneck]

He’s complimenting NZ. He’s describing how Saffas respect NZ rivalry and history and as World Cup winning coach he not some fkn hack.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Yeah I'm not sure if he was asked about it or what - but he's never been one to hold back 😅

[@Battosai84]

New logo is absolutely disgusting!! Who signed off on that?! Looks like a logo for low budget robot wars... colour scheme is horrendous 🤮

[@kevindevane6175]

Egg chasers was great until he started getting freebies from SA, now completely biased.

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Must be doing something right cos his channel has exploded over the last 12 months 😁

[@ianjacobs2998]

​@@TwoCentsRugbyYour podcast and Eggschasers are the best!!! 🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@Camcolito]

Sadly I agree. He went in hard on being a celebrity SA fan and it shows in his content

[@kevindevane6175]

@@TwoCentsRugby Don't get me wrong, hats off to the man for tapping into the SA Fan pool but he had to put on a pair of green and gold tinted glasses to do it.🤣

[@Irish780]

Im like, you mark about their logo. i dont like it. Actually, i hate it

[@TwoCentsRugby]

Maybe it'll grow on us? It just looks a bit shit eh? 😅

[@Irish780]

@TwoCentsRugby I don't know why.. but for some reason, it reminds me of they rainbow 🌈 movement 😆

[@francoisretief7946]

Mark you made me LOL when you read "Benoni"😂 Known fact in SA that the dogs there walk in pairs to avoid getting bitten by the kids!