Moog's Sub 37: The GREATEST MONOSYNTH.......ever?

[@stuartmccallum91]

I bought one of these used a couple years ago that had the wonky jumping filter pot! I emailed Moog and they sent me an entire replacement circuit board to drop in for the cost of shipping! ($20) No warranty, second owner, no questions asked they shipped it out to me.

[@oddomadic]

Wow you got the royal treatment. I had to pay $500 for a defective headphone jack which ended up being a circuit board as well.

[@blipblip88]

After about 25 or more years of not buying any music gear whatsoever, I had happened to walk into a music store, wandered the synth section and came across this beauty. I was smitten! It was switched on, and I played a few notes, twiddled a few knobs, and was absolutely in LOVE the sound, looks, and feel. It switched me on to loving making fun music again!

[@xntricity6446]

Its a synth that will excite you and never fails to disappoint. The best mono synth on the market.

[@TheDjpredator]

Love my Subsequent 37, the looks, the layout, and most important the sound! Such a phatt synth

[@proxibomb4913]

every band i've seen live that uses synths has this on-stage and all over their bts pics. this is truly the best monosynth of all time!!

[@NicStage]

Definitely one of the most enjoyable and useful monosynths I've ever used. Everything that you would ever want access to is on the front panel, to the point where it doesn't at all feel like digitally controlled analog unit. After many years of owning it, I'm still surprised at what what I can get from it. The routing capabilities are endless. If I had the money, I would buy another one just in case something ever happens to my current one. lol. Two features I like that you didn't mention (I don't think): The aftertouch (It feels nice) and the ability to edit patches from the computer via USB connection. They have a nice software tool for that.

[@ClifBratcher]

The Subsequent 37 is the only Moog I've been interested in. I've used/repaired a wide range of their products and they just don't do it for me. Don't get me wrong, Moog does what they do very well. It just isn't what I want. Was finally planning on picking up a Subsequent 37 in 2020, but Sequential decided to debut the Pro 3.. I got the Pro 3 and do not regret it.

[@ToyKeeper]

Same-ish. I also got a Pro 3, and basically haven''t touched my other synths since. I don't even have GAS any more. It's the kind of synth a person can grow old with, and still never run out of new things to try.

[@Iceleben]

Same here - for me the PRO 3 is the greatest Mono Synth. Sold the SUB 37 never looked back

[@nagchumpalot]

Yep! Pro 3 is ridiculous good.. and the SE edition is build quality is amazing.

[@bettenhoffllc6083]

@@nagchumpalot yalll are so stupid lmao as if this synth could compare to a Moog. Ask any pro legend. Mike Dean for example. Ashamed of you fucks.

[@KattKirsch]

Great video, Noir! Every time I see you touch that synth during hangout jams it seems like such a different vibe than, say, the SV1. It's that feeling of switching from consummate keyboardist to sound investigator that I think Moog and its ilk really encourage. We should have a monosynth jam day this week or next to celebrate!

[@LouisSerieusement]

2:32 oh yeah I do this for each gig, I let the synthesizers warm up for 30minutes every time xD One time I played in an old champagne cave in france and the humidity made my poly synth sing like a police sirene lol

[@rip-off749]

One of the best things about this instrument is the plugin that comes with it. You can integrate the hardware exactly like a software synth into your DAW session. Would be cool if other manufacturers had that too.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

plus it is free well other companies like Virus have a plugin and Oberheim had another software company develop a plugin for the new OB-X8 but it is not a free plugin!

[@SOGNAMETAL]

screw daw, dawless forever

[@levraichris3321]

The polybrute is pretty great in that regard

[@janriepshoff5237]

Looks like an interesting toy that Polybrute thingy.... *DAMN* @@levraichris3321

[@MilesAwayOfficial]

It's still an absolute classic :D great video bro

[@henrikfisch]

Well ... regarding "The best mono-synth ever build" ... I would say it's the "Pro2" from Dave Smith Instruments/Sequential. Why? Because I own one. 😀 All the best! 😃

[@aquaticborealis4877]

Yeah I was eyeing the Pro3. Gets rave reviews. I bought a Take 5 instead though. Also a great synth.

[@ToyKeeper]

Yeah... if I had to say what the best monosynth is, it'd probably be the Pro 2 or Pro 3. They do pretty much everything one could ever want from a monosynth, and they're ridiculously easy to use. Moog's Sub(sequent) 37 is nice, but it only does a small fraction as much.

[@aquaticborealis4877]

@@mikel5163 I really like it. Has a beautiful tone. Great keybed, good modulations. Connectivity options are limited and sequencer is a bit simple. Quality and workflow is very good.

[@leyetnin1]

Excellent video! Fell in Love with it’s character and ease of use. No wasted space on the control surface, easy to tweak in the dark.

[@suitandtieguy]

When I got it, I stopped using my Minimoog and eventually sold it. I tried replacing it with the One and then the Matriarch (originally named Big Momma, they should have kept that) but went back to the Sub37. It's just so damn playable and sounds great. In the Subsequent release they scattered my presets to the wind and removed my initials from my favorite lead sound, but in the original Subsequent set they are most of Bank 8. I am seeing Amos tonight and will show him your kind words. Thank you. Also, don't be a stranger! Come to Knobcon!

[@DaveBessell]

You sold your minimoog! Sub37 is great but sounds quite a bit different to the mini.

[@suitandtieguy]

@@DaveBessell i thought I was going to be buying a new Minimoog but the Moog Music Inc discontinued them.

[@DaveBessell]

@@suitandtieguy I have the new one, I honestly think its better than the originals. Better in the sense that it has separate LFO, velocity sensitive keyboard (which makes a huge difference) and a few patch points on the back.

[@laylahassomethingtosay]

@suitandtieguy What has your experience with the Moog One been like?

[@rdean150]

I'm also curious to hear your thoughts on the One. I consider the Subsequent my desert island monosynth, it's damn near perfect for an analog mono (although I do wish it utilized the screen to show a) the exact clock bpm and b) the currently rotating knob's value relative to the actual value of the parameter.) But something about it is just inherently musical, like fat, saturated velvet flowing from my fingers to the speakers. Every time I have played a One, on the other hand, I have struggled to coax actual music out of it. It's not a casual instrument. I'm sure it is capable of amazing things, but 30 minute sessions in Guitar Center are not gonna be enough to get most people up to speed with it. If Subsequent is a Maserati, the One is a Boeing 787.

[@SquarepulseMusic]

Always amazing reviews and videos man! Happy to see these coming out again.

[@davidhardy5670]

My first Moog synth was a a Sub 37. I loved the sound that it produced and used it for years i eventually sold it to get my hands on a MiniMoog but if i get the chance to snag another one i would in a heartbeat, Great Video.

[@xdrabbit]

I love my Subsequent 37! Good job on your channel!

[@jc3drums916]

Of the affordable alternatives, I think the Novation Bass Station II is more like the Sub37 (or Sub25) than the Korg and Arturia synths. I love the Sub37, although I don't have one. Someday though. On paper, I thought I'd prefer the Pro 2 due to its richer feature set, but when I actually played them, I preferred the sound of the Sub37. Or at the very least, Moog synths seem to have the most/widest sweet spots to my ears.

[@VocalChainsStudio]

It’s got a lot of depth, a sweet sequencer, interesting EGs with jammable looping functions. It’s probably way too much production depth for the average player but a dream synth for the right person.

[@BigBadWolf..............]

At the beginning of the pandemic I sold my op-1, sub 37, and tons of other equipment. I did it because I was worried about my business. My business did fine fortunately and last year I bought another the op-1 and a moog sub 25. I truly appreciated and enjoyed the sub 37 and had a hard time bonding with the 25. I finally am starting to bond with it but I do miss the 37. It’s a beast

[@amundbisgaard7295]

I heard the two are actually a bit different, despite them having similar names. The subsequent 25 is supposedly based on the sub phatty, while the Subsequent 37 is based on the Sub 37.

[@TheUnknownBass]

@@amundbisgaard7295 Yeah, you can immediately see this from the front panels. The Sub 25 and the Sub Phatty have the same controls/front panel.

[@amundbisgaard7295]

@@TheUnknownBass Neat...

[@SEFFOfficial]

Mega vid man, love my Subsequent37!!!!

[@petea]

I recently went to a live show (yay) of Bonobo in Portland. He had one of these small Moogs (not sure which one) and it was awesome over the sound system. He would sit there on a key, tweaking and flooding the house in massive shirt-rattling bass. It made me want one, and a massive PA system. Great video!

[@ricardovieiramusic]

I have a small studio and about 10 synths, and the Sub 37 is the most expensive one I own. But man, was it worth de money! It's by far my fav.

[@rezazarasvand9631]

i love my sub 37.. i do alot of gigs and this beautiful synth does it all with no problem of tuning or.... Moog sub 37 is a very very very good synth !

[@nickhatcher4519]

My experience with the Sub37 is only positive. Never owned but played with a closed friend’s unit. Pure joy. A bit confusing at first but became so playable. I think it might’ve been the best mono synth… UNTIL the Grandmother came in and took that title(imho) lol. Great video as always!

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Still got my Tribute Edition. Still love it. Goes with my Korg Prologue like Abbot and Costello. What a combination. It's the combination that I use with my MPC sequencing both synths and this makes up the start of my workflow in most cases. I'm fortunate to have the KARP Odyssey as well but the original Sub37 is my go to mono synth 8 out of 10 times

[@catastrophicjones]

I had the opportunity to buy some synths in 2020 because of the job I worked at the time. Pulled in a lot of hours, and was looking for something 'different' that I could buy. The subsequent 37 was one of my picks and it is amazing and beautifully designed. I wish I could play it more but I'm in search of a new place and have no room to let it out so currently it's in a box just waiting to be played. Hopefully I'll fix that by next month or so.

[@williamtell1477]

Dude I love your channel SO much. Thank you for every one of your productions!

[@jonathanosborn4800]

People will all have their own opinions of course! I’d argue the Voyager is the best Moog mono, but that the PRO3 is the best mono synth, and the PRO2 is the coolest not-poly synth, though not actually as good of a mono synth as the pro3, overall. The Voyager has the touch pad pplus wheels, the pro3 has the touch strip plus wheels, the pro2 has TWO strips plus wheels, but they are position AND pressure sensitive! Voyager has 3 oscillators and two filters, pro 3 has 3 filters, the pro2 has the super flexible dual-filter section. Yes, the 37 has a huge sweet spot, lots of knobs, stable, great modulation. But the pro3 is pretty much sweet spot, WAYYYY more modulation, tons of knobs.

[@solomonjenkins9505]

moog will ship you a replacement board for free. I've never done any synth work or anything before but it's a fairly easy swap. Very, very worth it, no idea how you contend with the filter issue, must not be as bad on yours as it was on mine. So amazing once replaced dude, highly recommend going for that board replacement

[@jansonrawlings8169]

Love the video. After having both I still prefer the little phatty. That’s in a studio setting though, so I totally get the tuning stability issues of playing live you pointed out. Just sonically a phatty guy. Really wish it had the paraphony and sequencer of the sub though

[@fattyboombatty7736]

Sound is everything - but,..... I do think after the blue UDO Super 6, the 37 is one of the nicest looking synths.

[@ModularLanding]

Great video. Like the Moog One, the only bad thing that can be said about the Sub37 is the sound. Personally I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of mine and I love it. I do prefer the raw sound of the Matriarch and Mother 32, especially when I want something more vintage.

[@JamesCorbettMusic5000]

I agree, pushing past 12 o’clock on the oscillators is so fat on the matriarch.. the Sub37 has its own sound. Very different

[@VIRALBEATS360]

Love it! Moog is a great company, and their packaging is always fun. Thank you for allowing me to live vicariously through your joy, until I get one of my own to play with.

[@The_Bit_Player]

The Sub 37 Tribute Edition will always be the GOAT. I can't make a song without it . And I don't want to.

[@chuckshartz2722]

I never knew that analog synthesizer's tuning behaves just like a guitar's tuning when exposed to vasprious climates. That's crazy. I know the tune knobs are present, but didn't realize they served that function. And this is the kind of demonstration and review I would expect to see all the time.... informative, to the points, and HONEST... keyword - honest. This is geard towards being informative, and not som much as a sales promotion.

[@TheGreatPanicker]

How would one think this is not the greatest synth of all time!!!

[@qlyde]

Great video Noir! Two synths I bought this year were the Subsequent 37 & Prophet-6. Legendary pair, all the vibe I could ask for, I'm in love with them both, but my old CZ-1 still has my favourite synth title 😅 The noisy stereo chorus, old 12bit DAC, 8 stage envelopes for *everything* and PD synthesis make the most unique and character rich synth I've played. Programming is a must but it sounds brilliant. I really wish there was a modern version of the CZ though, because modern synths are so much better to work with. Still need to figure out the Subsequent 37 plugin but I'm happy to use it hands-on anyways!

[@sunsp.t]

Yes. I have used this on an Atmospheric Folk album as a pedal steel-type sound, by rolling off the filter and playing high up with some plumey white noise thrown in. I have also used it as a dramatic 3-octave bass. I've done 3-hour rock bass gigs on it, creating "electric" and "acoustic" bass patches. The multiple drive options are huge for "old school" and "fake guitar" stuff. The only problem is it likes to show off in a mix, and often you have to significantly eq out some frequencies to make it sit inside of a track instead of in front of a track.

[@theleastsignificantbit4794]

I agree with you. I own the Matriarch (sold it), a Prologue 16, a Pro 3, and various Dreadbox synths. The Subsequent 37 will never leave my side. Internet opinion is that the Pro 3 is a better synth, but I play the Subsequent more often. The Sub sounds awesome without effects, and it’s one huge sweet-spot. Great video!

[@theleastsignificantbit4794]

And Amos Gaynes is a genius.

[@ZenWorld]

Damm it don't make the prices go UP!!!

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

I’m sorry.

[@anglosaxonking]

I soooooo agree. I own mine manufactured 2/16 (I bought it new) and have loved it ever since.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

This was my first hardware synth that I bought years ago after wanting to go DAWless and still have and love it! I would like to replace it with a Minimoog but 5k versus 1k to get less features not worth the cost.

[@Psychlist1972]

I love my original Sub 37. I never did get the filter pot replaced.

[@SacSynths_Jack_Z]

The day after you posted this, my sweetwater rep called me to let me know they had gotten a batch of "imperfect" Sub 37s and 25s in from Moog... $330 off! I couldn't ignore that message from the synth gods! Really enjoyed the video, keep up the great work!

[@RodrickLodowica]

Thnx for this! I am pretty new in the world of Synths more specifically Synth Bass. I've been using a borrowed sub37. Can't wait to get one of my own!!

[@RaniOsnat]

Obviously I haven’t tried every mono synth out there, but having both a Subsequent 37 and a Slim phatty I would definitely put the 37 up there… for 4 reasons: 1. The sound - it’s absolutely fat, organic, and unique. At first it was hard for me to get “gentle” tones out of it, but I learned it’s all in the gain staging (whereas in other synths VCA/DCA levels would typically be set high, here it starts overdriving past the middle point… it’s in the manual actually). That said, if you want gentle, airy tones get a Roland (I have those too). 2. It absolutely begs to be tweaked (but still has patch memory so you can save your sounds). The accessibility of parameters is great., I create new sounds on it all the time 3. It’s MUSICAL! The little tweaks you can make to envelope triggering, or assigning parameters to the mod wheel and other controls, makes it really great for expressive phrasing and funky bass lines. 4. Built like a brick - I don’t think I’ve seen a synth so well built since the original DX7,

[@blackmateriaofficial2383]

i remember Amos demonstrating some amazing sounds smiling and doing what i can only describe as the 'superman-clark kent' move, pushing his glasses back. I was instantly sold :)

[@blackmateriaofficial2383]

nothing has that smudge like the Sub37. The Karp smokes it when it comes to deep bass, though.

[@JorbLovesGear]

Everything about the sub 37 is great, EXCEPT the modulation busses. I hate that I couldn't use them without giving up one of the LFO's, and while having multiple sources on a single bus can surprise with cool sounds, a lot of the time I only want one source to one destination, so essentially just 2 modulation rows. Pretty limiting in comparison these days. Bothered me enough that I sold it! But still, I think about buying another like twice a month lmao Good stuff, the consistently inconsistent king 😅🙏

[@Pintosonic]

I think the best sounding Moog now is the Matriarch but being semi modular and having no presets makes it less suitable for live use. I just wish Moog would make a synth that uses the same oscillators and filters as the Matriarch but has presets and a modulation matrix.

[@sketchdashaman]

prob the only Moog, I will buy. only because playing with it at NAMM 2018 for only 5 min!!! so smooth, round & full......ahh...yes.

[@midnightsocean2689]

Bout 5 years ago I owned a slim phatty. One of the best designed analog “mono” synths I’ve used and I heavily regretted selling it.

[@pigknickers2975]

LOL, just sold mine. Lets hope the Subsequent37 fills it's place.

[@midnightsocean2689]

@@pigknickers2975 I'm sure it will be fine.

[@HardyNahtal]

C'mon.....you are forgetting Sequential Pro 2 or Pro 3!!! Thanks for the video 🤙🏾

[@MySkinnydip]

First time I heard your music was on a gorilla troop post. I love it!

[@danpreston564]

The Sub37 blew my mind when I got it. I’d never owned anything with the modulation options that it has. These days, I find it a bit less impressive, having it sat next to a peak with 4 LFOs, but I still love the work flow (the push button twist knob to assign LFO is so well implemented) and the way it feels to use. I’m sad that the keys are all yellow and the pitch and mod wheels feel like using glue because the rubbery plastic has broken down, and that the headphone output crackles and pops like a bowl of Rice Crispies.

[@Death_By_Media]

I’ve thought about one over the years, but I’ve owned a few Moogs and flipped them all because ultimately each had some limitation or flaw I couldn’t get past . The Slim sounded pretty damn good , but tuning warm up was 35 to 45 mins . Bought the Minitaur like 3 times really liked its sound and each time they did updates it got better , but ultimately it wasn’t stealing time from my MS20 or BSII so I got rid of it and got a sub25 , but it just didn’t gel with the other synths in my set up . Moog is an awesome company and are great at what they do , but evidently the buttery warm sound of analog isn’t my bag as my favorites are the MS20 , Polivolks, Wasp , OSCar , etc . I like the weird noisy and harsher side of analog ....well except for Oberheim , but that’s another story .

[@FuzzyDereck]

Great video!! I think the Sub37 is fantastic, but a Subsequent25 would be enough for my needs. (I still have a red Little Phatty that I want to, equally, hang onto & sell, lol. 😭)

[@lashtal]

Great vid bro. The Behringer Odyssey (not the Korg version) has a sequencer, can be obtained for approx. 400 on used markets. It's a great start for a monosynth owner, and if patient with it, the user can learn a lot of transferrable info about synthesis- which can be brought to any other synth thereafter. No patch saving on this one, but this is why it can challenge a person, to figure out how to recreate a beloved sound from scratch. On the other hand, I would really just recommend getting any cheap 100 dollar midi-controller keyboard and learning to play piano via free VST... see if one actually takes to piano before dropping 1000 or more on some keys. Then again, there are a lot of folks like me who aren't world class pianists, but we can still get some great sounds out of synths and rounding out our guitar music, by following a simple chord chart.

[@jettsom]

I have the Subsequent 37 and Pro 3, I love both equally.

[@matfix1258]

In the mid to late 90s, when I was talking to Robert Moog about the new synth he was making (came to be the Voyager) I told him it would be nice or a blessing if it could have more than one voice, or if you could add voice cards, I guess now with this and a few others, my ideas or suggestions have come to fruition. 😋 I wanted it to be a minimoog (I had one in the 90s) with memory and more filters, plus something extra. Maybe next they will add something new and exciting also.

[@matthijsblomjous3671]

I bought a sub25 a few months ago. I'm definitely happy with it, but I kinda wish I had waited for a sub37 to come back into stock... This video confirms that once more.

[@Maxat_Ospanov]

Some say that the sub 25 has a "warmer" bass sound than the 37.

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

Certainly my fav, took me ages to buy one after trying all sorts of others including Pro 3 etc.. but now I have one it's staying forever.

[@jasonphilbrook4332]

Beautifully made video!

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

0:45 OMG, I always thought the SUB part of the name meant they were for only meant for BASS lines (because of SUB oscillators). So I never paid any attention to them.

[@Musialproductions]

Amazing video! I couldn’t exactly afford a Sub 37 but I took the plunge 2 months ago and bought a Sub 25 on sale and absolutely love it! While it has less features and I certainly would like the extra octave of keys, the Sub 25 still sounds like the Sub 37 and I use it every day in my beats

[@wolfpackpresets]

After many years of use, Sub37 will still creatively surprise you ... I own many great monosynths - Grandmother, Korg MS20 (vintage), model D, Odyssey, Future retro XS and and yet I use Sub37 the most.

[@raistaparta]

If we're talking alternatives to the Sub 37, I think the Sequential Pro3 would be my first pick.

[@Iceleben]

I had both and I prefer the PRO3, sold the SUB37. I think the PRO 3 is the best Mono Synth out there, so much possibilities, it’s mind blowing and still easy to use. Sound can be earthshaking.

[@masonarcher2998]

@@Iceleben I’m in total agreement with you. The two synths I own are the Pro 3 and the Hydrasynth and both feel more like sculpting tools that you can take a sound in your head, and within a (relatively) short amount of time, have something pretty close. The Pro 3 is just so easy to use and get complex stuff with quickly, not to mention the sound is gorgeous. The Pro 3 was the first instrument I’ve personally owned, where after playing it for the first time, I thought, “so this is what it’s like to own a premium instrument”. Having said that, I also think Arturia has made some amazing instruments with the Matrixbrute and the Polybrute. I was also able to play a Moog Grandmother and was of course impressed. The build quality wasn’t particularly impressive but it nevertheless sounded great. Not Pro 3 great, but I’d happily use a Grandmother without feeling a massive gap in quality.

[@judethree4405]

I own both, and though if I had to pick one, I’d probably go with the pro 3, I still would highly miss the subsequent. It just has a rich buttery duo mode that I never get sick of, especially with some reverb added.

[@TheCALMInstitute]

The Little Phatty was the first synth I ever bought, around 2007? I loved it to death, and I still love it. But at one point some years after buying it, I fell victim to GAS and started to want more complexity than it could offer. So I bought a Sub37. To my ears it did sound a lot less "organic and imprecise" than my LP. But the design of it, especially after their big firmware update, was exceptional. The only real beef with it that I had was that the gain staging at the mixer was so aggressive - it seemed to start distorting very early in a knob turn. I still have my LP, and I really love its simple sounds, and the way I can have every single feature and option in my head all at once. I don't even have to use presets, it's like the fender telecaster of synths.

[@liselottefrejdig1112]

My first "synth" was the Casio VL-1. Some years later, it became the Yamaha DX-100. Now it's Moog Sub 37 and I'm happy!!

[@creatingspacesproducer]

You're a man of great taste :) It's my fav too :D

[@pqlr8763]

In my opinion, that honour goes to the MFB Dominion.

[@ktreier]

Subsequent is the first hardware synth I bought in 2017 after selling my ARP Odyssey back in 1982. I will only sell it if I end up a pauper.

[@SynthAddict]

nice one, finally had a chance to watch this :-)

[@SuperStarO]

Love the content man

[@McN4styFilth]

Moog has made so many classics I don't think it's even the best mono from their lineup. I think even sequential's Pro series have it beat especially the Pro 2. Very interesting choice.

[@TheDungeonDive]

Great video. My vote for best ever mono is DSI Pro 2.

[@jonathanosborn4800]

Pro3 is a better stand-alone mono, PRO2 is a more overall complete tool, between processing external audio, paraphonic use, and overall sound-shaping

[@nagchumpalot]

Then try a Pro 3 SE edition worth the extra money for SE edition for incredible build, Like a modern Minimoog.

[@marcpinion]

I have had my sub 37 Tribute for several years and have never even looked at the presets. As you said I have a synth (well several to make my own sounds.

[@donaldpriola1807]

I still have my Slim Phatty, and yeah, it takes at least 15 minutes to tune. Still, beautiful unit. I do love my Grandmother Dark; great synth. If I had unlimited funds, and space, I'd pick up a Sub37 in two seconds.

[@lukeautosymbol2668]

This is either best or the worst-timed video for me right now as I'm moving toward selling my Sub 37. On one hand, this is great because it should reinvigorate some interest on the market for the Sub 37 (videos like these are more influential than people think) making it a little easier to sell. On the other though, this video could make me want to keep it. Decisions, decisions...

[@JamesCorbettMusic5000]

I pretended to myself that I was going to sell my Sub37 to fund a matriarch, bought one then kept the Sub37 as I couldn’t let it go 😅

[@traitortotheliving]

Great video man!

[@joco179]

Good video! I'd love to hear your perspective on the matriarch. I got to play one for about 10 minutes at knobcon and I haven't stopped thinking about it since

[@JamesCorbettMusic5000]

I’ve never warmed to my Sub37, I use it now and again, but fell in love with my OB6 and matriarch more. Maybe I need to spend more time with it

[@Iccapod]

Love mine. I have an early one too but I switched the filter board and the yellow keyboard and it's fresh as.

[@thomaspipermusic]

Facts I Love Mine it's my fave synth too I love Moog I have a matriarch too and it rock also

[@ingolf7411]

3 Moog with keyboards (Subsequent 37, Grandmother, Matriarch). As for me the Subsequent 37 is a fantastic instrument. I think, not comparable with the Grandmother and the Matriarch. It sounds impressive paired with a user interface that makes fun to turn the knobs. Great synth (and maybe a GOAT instrument).

[@T-Hawkeyes]

Like, its that much better than the Grandmother?

[@ingolf7411]

@@T-Hawkeyes The Grandmother sounds great and offers some patch points. If doing sound design the Grandmother is more difficult. The Sub lets you store your design efforts and is therefore more predictable (the sound you've stored can be recalled). Regarding the sound the Sub, my very personal opinion, offers more variations as parameters for osc1 and osc2 can be modified independent (and the sub for osc1 is really massive). As for me I use the GM more for arps and "clear" Moog sounds. Whereas the Sub is used for (very) deep and ambient sounds. As mentioned earlier both synths are hard to compare ... to use both offers best fun (for my kind of use).

[@pepuletrz]

its my second desert synth after the MS-20

[@MichaelDowComposer]

It's gotta be the Dave smith Evolver keyboard no? :D Great video as always!

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

The Mono Evolver is SOOOOO special, great pick! I miss mine.

[@MichaelDowComposer]

@@NoirEtBlancVie I remember your videos on it! Was a great 1 minute review. I have considered selling mine.... but i won't now. I have sold too many synths that i regretted. Some i didn't mind selling at all (korg monologue mainly, offered me absolutely nothing) But the 303 606 combo was painful and still is... Supernova 2.. ouch. Too many regrets!

[@candyflip6345]

The Grandmother is the best mono synth ever.

[@PeanutButterAM]

I have a Sub37 CV. The rebuilt amp path with increased headroom giving more range from clean to reaaaalll dirty is nice. Best out. Now to find a way to get a One. Hahaha.

[@jhewitt79]

Wait, can you explain using the Sub 37 sequencer as a phrase sampler? I'm very interested in this feature but haven't heard about it before now.

[@morrinsville23]

Sub37 i thought was cool, but the subsequent 37 blew me away.. But i couldn't afford it.. But i love my mother 32

[@marillion335]

My only gripe with mine (Subsequent 37) is the rubber coating on the mod and pitch bend wheels. They have gone sticky like a lot of rubber products do even though Ive never cleaned it with anything that would cause it go sticky. I managed to fix the issue using black butyl rubber tape (Self amalgamting tape) that when pulled tight over the wheel sticks really well. Not the best solution but at least they arent sticky anymore which was very distracting. Ive heard others have had this issue too.

[@suitandtieguy]

Another great lead synth that's _kind_ of fungible to the Sub37 is the IK Uno Synth Pro. It is not as friendly to edit but it's half the price and sounds great but different because of the filters.

[@CatmanJimbo]

I got one recently, almost singlehandedly on the strength of Matt Johnson (of Jamiroquai)'s demo and it really kicks ass! I opted for the keyboard version so can only speak to that iteration of it but it's built like an absolute tank too, which I wasn't expecting.

[@suitandtieguy]

@@CatmanJimbo i love it. I'm trying to get some features implemented so I can use it instead of the Sub37. My live rig had to fit in a Suburban and every bit counts.

[@madhigoodsociety]

I've had a Grandmother, and a Matriarch come and go. You know what remained? My SUBSEQUENT 37 😏 I love it. Although I may get another Matriarch eventually.

[@jamesdiazcomposer]

The grandmother is def a good rival. Of course, the grandmother doesn't have paraphonic capabilities but still killing bass and leads are possible, plus it offers patching.

[@SoundsAndGear]

Dope vid bro!

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Thanks you man! You gonna make it to NAMM? 👀

[@SoundsAndGear]

@@NoirEtBlancVie Nah, gonna sit this one out lol.

[@dandare301]

Great review - thx

[@TheUnperson]

I had this synth for some time and really did not get on with it. I found it to be uninspiring for my musical tastes. It undeniably sounds fantastic, but I think I prefer synths that are a bit weirder :D

[@rareform6747]

Two years in Still learning ...I did sell the Little Fatty

[@__3028]

you really need to try vintage moog. its on another level to the new stuff, and I like the new stuff!

[@ToyKeeper]

It's a great synth... wouldn't say it's the greatest _ever,_ but I would at least agree it's the best monosynth from Moog.

[@ChillMode34]

I still think that belongs to the minimoog voyager.

[@ToyKeeper]

@@ChillMode34 This is all very subjective, of course. Each person has their own needs and preferences. But if someone was going to buy one Moog monosynth and it would be the only instrument they could ever use, I'd probably tell them to get a Subsequent 37 or a Matriarch... with the Sub37 being the more practical of the two for general-purpose use. ... though really, if they could only have one synth and it must be a monosynth, I'd probably tell them to get a Pro 3 or a Pro 2. It's waaaay more versatile, and has everything built in so it doesn't need external effects or anything.

[@ChillMode34]

@@ToyKeeper as a matriarch owner I’m puzzled at your monosynth recommendation. It’s a paraphonic stereo four voice.

[@ChillMode34]

@@ToyKeeper pro 3 voice paraphonic. It’d be more comparable to the matriarch which is undeniably better IMO.

[@ToyKeeper]

@@ChillMode34 If paraphony disqualifies a synth from this category, the Sub37 wouldn't count either. So I take it as a given, from the video, that paraphony is allowed in this category. So for a Moog "monosynth", I'd generally tell people to get a Subsequent 37 or a Matriarch... and the decision between those would depend on whether they want a practical instrument which excels at filling common musical needs (Sub37) or a modular sandbox which is fun to explore but not as practical for song creation due to having no patch recall (Matriarch). But without the brand restriction, I'd tell them to get a new Pro 3 instead, because it's like a superset of the best parts of both Moogs. It's very practical as a workhorse like the Sub37, but also very good at experimentation like the Matriarch, and has a bunch of other additional functionality that neither Moog does. ... though for someone who wants to make songs, I probably wouldn't tell them to start out with any of these. I'd tell them to get a midi keyboard and a DAW (in either software or hardware form, like Ableton or an Akai Force) and focus on learning instead of gear.