Moog Subsequent 25 Duophonic Synthesizer | Reverb Demo

[@alousypeach]

This is the demo that this synth needed. Every other one I’ve seen is way too focused on aggressive sounds, but this is such a great mix.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

This is a stellar option for those looking to spend less on a Moog. The quality is unparalleled. Great first Moog for beginners. Until you have it, you just don’t get it.

[@ChazSeamus28]

no doubt.. this thing for leads and my sub phatty for basses is going to be a lethal combo for sure

[@mike.thomas]

Damn I just wish it had an arpeggiator. So fun.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

@@mike.thomas Yeah no arp, maybe better for real players to have a Sub 37. I would be using Ableton Live, Akai Force, or DSI Tempest for arps and sequences.

[@mike.thomas]

@@digitaldiezel5870 Well I am not a “real player” by a long shot! That’s why I love arps so much 🤓. I may still end up with one of these. I like the form factor.

[@apostolosmaras4878]

My first synth... It won't let you down, especially if you are a fan of Tame Impala or some Mac Demarco stuff (On The Level etc). It can do anything from aggressive fuzzy but not mudy sounds to atherial like sounds.

[@sugarnap245]

Honestly one of the most attractive things about this is the size. I’m an artist moving into a mobile camper recording studio for touring and obviously mobile recording. I’m going to miss my Subsequent 37, which has always been my main synth, as well as my vintage Crumar Performer, but this is incredible because it’s most of the Sub 37 but just way smaller. I couldn’t bring my sub 37 with me in the camper, so I tried a prophet rev2, but that’s a bit big also, and it just isn’t a Moog. The Sub 25 is absolutely perfect.

[@ColossalView]

I recently purchased the Subsequent 25 and use it in addition to my Matriarch. It’s a great synth for anyone who’s first trying out an analog synth, and all the way to more experienced synth users looking for new synth voices to add to their setup. Hats off to Moog for making this one for sure.

[@epicon6]

Finally a Moog i can afford! Some day...

[@lphonso8320]

Mother 32, bro

[@epicon6]

Alfonso I know Mother 32 and DFAM excists but they don’t have keyboards and still most Moog are 1500$-3000$. Not complaining about the prices either because i’m sure they are worth it

[@lphonso8320]

@@epicon6 I do complain about prices, however I know they are worth it. Although he would invest in a Dave Smith creation rather than a Moog.

[@GuillaumeLudwig]

@@lphonso8320 the Grandmother is another option.

[@HotStrange]

ALPH0NS0 That’s a really different synth with a very different sound/feature set.

[@joshuaromero282]

7:04: "I always think that Moog is super SMOOOOTH" 😅 I loved that weird effect

[@TheoVoidTV]

I had to decide between this and the Grandmother. I chose the Grandmother for the sound arp, seq and the patch-points. I think the 25 is just a tad over-priced for what it is. Still a sweet synth though. But the Grandmother is AMAZING!

[@memorypalace8009]

Looking at the two side by side it seems like very similar synths trading off the arp and and patch points for the saving presets, sub osc, and some extra options... I’m having a really hard time deciding which to get because I mostly want it to run arps and play bass lines.. and I can run the arps and seq from computer or keystep

[@nicholasloyacona4560]

@@memorypalace8009 did you end up with either Moog? I’m a bass player in a trio currently checking out both the Subsequent 25 & the grandmother!

[@christianberthiaumeccb]

I laughed a lot about the " if you don't like your neighbours" section! Thx !! 😅😅 Great review, very usefull.

[@electriceyeslide5959]

You can definitely hear the 1970s show “In Search Of” (7:34) hosted by Leonard Nimoy on this synth. No other modern synth I have heard sounds like this.

[@daviddean5846]

Theres no sequencer on the sub 25, but there were points in the video where Natalie was playing over what sounded like a sequence (4:15-4:25). Anyone know how she did this?

[@wierd.ole.monkey]

an Electro Harmonix looper

[@daviddean5846]

David Dean Interesting, you think they would have mentioned they had external hardware or a DAW...no other gear was shown in the demo

[@wierd.ole.monkey]

@@daviddean5846 at the beginning of vid it says she uses a looper to do her compositions

[@gnstallientood5007]

they mentioned shes using a looper

[@j.sherwoodowl4826]

Great job showing the broad range of sounds and very nice demo noodles.

[@liselottefrejdig1112]

I have the Sub 37, together with the Eventide Space. I traded in my Gretsch 5122 DC to buy it.

[@Howdy606]

Surely it wouldn't be hard for an OS update to allow a simple Arp and extra 16 patch spaces with those 8 buttons? i.e. press and hold a bank button, so it blinks to access another 4 sounds. and a few multiple bank/patch buttons to active ARP modes with 1 - 4 being UP/DOWN/Random etc

[@monsterjazzlicks]

Very well presented! 😎

[@flann5802]

Please we need build in sequencer

[@van403]

Does Natalie have her own original music online? Loved these jams and would love to hear more!

[@van403]

@@chrisgriffiths8167 Thanks!

[@Jacob-ur3lh]

So basically Moog subphatty but duophonic (paraphonic). Gotcha. I'll keep my Subphatty. They should've added an arpeggiator.

[@jesuslovestoastyaya]

Yea i don't see a need to upgrade my Sub Phatty. Great sounding classic analog mono.

[@tuneunleashed]

Well it is the successor to the Sub Phatty

[@analogsynthesizer]

Hasn't it arpeggiator?

[@TheViolinRoom]

Is duophonic and polyphonic the same thing?

[@platinummonster9755]

Wish Moog would have ditched the keyboard and made this a desktop module. Thus slightly less expensive. As is, it's about $100 CDN cheaper than the Grandmother... decisions, decisions. Looking forward to some comparison vid's. Might have to flip a coin, in the end.

[@kevinbirge2130]

She hates menu diving. Have her do a detailed review of the Korg Wavestate. On shrooms.

[@kevinbirge2130]

sbmphr I’m sure you are right. When she talked about hating navigating menus, I got it immediately. I will probably have to get over it, but for now I’ve avoided it.

[@HotStrange]

The WaveState still has a lot of hands on controls.

[@WillieCorley]

The Korg Wavestate is a cool instrument, but it does involve a lot of menu surfing.

[@nofood1]

can I use it as a plugin with Ableton ?

[@NOLNV1]

Tried to look at the synth but that left hand ring is fucking cool, actually her whole style is sick

[@nalaeel219]

Im not a synth guru by any means. But i just expected more from moog. This certainly doesnt blow me away as other products have as of recent. The demo was great i thought. Well played and explained. But this is the best moog can do?

[@Ampher03]

I mean it’s not a flagship or something. It’s just an update to the Sub Phatty

[@nalaeel219]

@@Ampher03 true. Maybe its just expectation. Moog has always been a little outa my price range anyways. I mean, dont get me wrong. If i could own a sub37 i would for sure. I just thought this was a little underwhelming

[@Ampher03]

Irok 81 I really want a Subsequent 37. I feel like this 25 could at least be a stepping stone

[@HotStrange]

I’m excited for it. “Is this the best Moog can do?” Lmfao.

[@kingtrance6826]

@ Irok 81 - What?

[@AliAusAachen]

What I don’t like about 25 is that it’s small but very heavy. I can’t find a decent place to put it.

[@Mike-xq7ib]

Your back pocket?

[@AliAusAachen]

@@Mike-xq7ib nice 👍

[@1mchartmann]

I keep hearing Kraftwerk and wanting this for Autobahn.

[@ageshero]

Marketing it as a duophonic but doesn’t even have a dedicated button for that? That’s kind of a strange choice if you ask me.

[@ageshero]

Hey, back again, lol yea its still a weird design choice not to have a button

[@fcardenas184]

Hey! An idea: could you please leave links to the item page in the description? I’d love to know this is too expensive for my broke ass right away ♥️

[@thepedalpress]

Don't hate your neighbor, love thy neighbor ;)

[@DK-qe6uo]

RIP Sub Phatty

[@lovesteersthestars]

No, it doesn't rest in peace, Sub Phatty's sound is different and I prefer it to sub37/sub25

[@ChazSeamus28]

@@lovesteersthestars ditto.. Sub Phatty gets deep.. this joint sounds amazing for softer basses and great leads though.. i will buy this joint eventually

[@lovesteersthestars]

sbmphr yea sure, keyboard warrior

[@HotStrange]

VV The Sub25 is an upgraded Sub Phatty. It’s not the sound engine of the Sub37.

[@Aint1S]

7:12 sounds great!

[@mschorer]

I have a Sub Phatty and I HATE not having a screen and constantly lugg around that edit sheet. Luckily I also have a Sub 37 for crazy sounds and I just use the Sub Phatty for standard lead sounds.

[@tannerjmatheson]

@Nicholas Mastro i think its somewhere around 100

[@mschorer]

Nicholas Mastro 256 patches arranged in 16 Banks x 16 Patches

[@MrLilu31]

Which Looper are you using? Thanks!

[@NatalieChami]

MrLilu31 it’s the electro harmonix 2880

[@Nospoon777]

@@NatalieChami Keep tearing it up Natalie!!

[@pedrowilde]

I had a Sub Phatty, sold recently, but man, I'll never buy a Moog synth again! I respect Moog's history and sound but nowadays there's many control quality issues. The day I sold the Sub Phatty, after taking the dust cover to experiment if everything was ok I notice the side panels were all sticky and melting?? What kind of rubber/plastic are they using?? So I had to cut the price, then the buyer notice one octave selector was not working, so I cut the price again! Since I bought the Sub Phatty (new) it was always at home and with dust cover, no direct sunlight, room temperature with small variation, so I don't understand a product that is made in USA? Ah, and this is not a one case problem, they all have these problems sooner or later, well this new one with wood panels will not have the melting problem for sure. I just want cheap synths now!

[@fudashimayne6633]

The rubberized plastic melting isn't specifically a Moog problem, but a Mid-2000's problem. There are so many synths and electronics in general that used that shit. I have a behringer fx2000 virtualizer 3-d rack unit and i had an alesis micron and an arturia beatstep, all used that goddamn shitty stuff. The knobs on my virtualizer fx unit look like theyve been in a fire because i used goof off on them to clean/remove the rubberized part, idk if they ever did degradation tests to see when it would break down but it is one of the worst ideas since lead in paint chips.

[@TherapyHiccup]

well, im getting this.

[@corican]

The synth sounds great, but her voice is too quiet. Is she mic'd? Her level is a bit too low.

[@petougao]

Welcome Bach TAL!

[@ericpereira1108]

So it's just a sub phatty with wood on the side.

[@JonathanMPriceMusic]

Hey there, I'm the Sub25 calibrator at Moog Music. The new 25 is voiced exactly like the 37 so its much more clean and crystalline in its sound, whereas the Phatty had lower headroom within the circuit, causing it to compress or "fatten up" earlier. The phatty also wasn't duophonic, and our presets are all completely new for this model.

[@ChazSeamus28]

@@JonathanMPriceMusic well said.. i like this synth.. sub phatty for bass and this for leads will be perfect for me.. can you get the Editor software updated a bit though.. make it like behringers! that would be dope!

[@thirfytash7286]

@@JonathanMPriceMusic yea I'm hearing that now, especially after the perfect circuit video, it does sound more open and clear at the top end, crystalline is a good word, different than my sub phatty but just as good!

[@gordonbennett7931]

@@JonathanMPriceMusic I hope Moog do the honourable thing and provide a firmware update to make the Sub Phatty Duophonic. Amos Gaines has previously confirmed that it is possible. It would demonstrate that they at least still care about their existing Sub Phatty owners who have invested in the product and the company over the years. I actually contacted Moog Support about this and got the following response: ''Hey Gordon, I do not see why we wouldn't do this. It might take some time due to firmware engineers focusing on other updates. But I will pass the message along and see if we can get the ball rolling soon. I'm sorry I don't have a solid answer for you today, but as a Sub Phatty owner myself, I'll be pushing for this update!! Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with. I'll keep you posted on any updates'' Have you heard anything yourself about this being in the pipeline at some point?

[@davedavis7589]

surely it's "Mooog" not "Moge" ?

[@jello-tarzan]

Nope, she pronounces it well. Cheers!

[@diywarmchannel9090]

прикольный звук

[@charlesbronson2806]

Spend the extra 100$ or so. Get a grandmother. Thank me later.

[@neoaureus]

why ?

[@charlesbronson2806]

@@neoaureus Grandmother is semi modular plus some other features. I had a sub 25 and sold it when I got my GM. Theres a lot more possibilities w the GM and interconectivity w other modular gear. Dont get me wrong any moog sounds great.

[@ishmael2586]

It's mooooog not mouge ffs

[@rleriche5044]

Menu diving without a menu. Nope

[@uhldev]

No sequencer

[@djmad2a]

Seriously ? ... they are latch on arppegiator ?

[@neoaureus]

Cant we run sequencers from outside? as a newbie to modular and semi modular ... I have this question

[@uhldev]

neoaureus yes you can, you Can use external sequencer to sequence the Subsequent 25

[@neoaureus]

Michael Yuhl ..thanks...I have 2 M32s and a DFAM ...do you think this would add to them...? I'm still learning to use them though...

[@uhldev]

neoaureus not really, this synth feels limited and is only interesting because the Moog name sells itself.

[@aarondiver4693]

Who in there right mind would get this over the grandmother

[@thirfytash7286]

Depends what you're looking for in a synth, this can have a totally different sound than the grandmother , it can be soft like the grandmother but it also can get a lot more aggressive than the grandmother, a sound that I prefer a ton more over the grandmother sound personally, plus people who want prrsets with a librarian, , midi for all parameters, editor plugin for seamless daw integration, size, slightly cheaper price, duophony, a lot of crazy reasons I guess 😂

[@strelokknoize]

I'd go for the Sub25 for its look alone.

[@metmain5]

I would

[@VIDDTHEDESIGNER]

Presets and looks

[@RedCloudServices]

button is pronounced “but-ton” with a def emphasis on pronouncing the “T”

[@jasonlgv4706]

I didn't realize that this was an English class. By the way, you failed to capitalize the first letter, and add a period at the end of your sentence.

[@PaulGBass]

This product makes no sense. If you want a Moog, the supposed Rolls Royce of synths, why would you want a really shitty, basic one? Either get a Sub 37 or Re-Issue D or just get a Behringer D or Poly D - this thing makes no logical or financial sense...for probably 50% extra than the Poly D, you're getting half as much Moog style synth....I would just save up for the Subsequent 37, but if I absolutely could not afford it,I would rather take the 4 osc. 37 key Poly D with its chorus, distortion, stereo output and chord mode than this 2osc 25 key mono synth, which is basically Moog's attempt at a more basic Novation Bass Station or Minibrute in a severely cut down Sub37 style package... Sad thing is if you want to be a brand snob you can write "made with a real analogue Moog" on any track you made with this, but a 250 bucks Behringer D will sound more like a proper, classic, vintage, phat, creamy, 3 oscillator Moog...

[@neoaureus]

wow.. that's what I call good advice...

[@yubasunproductions2494]

This is perfect for live shows

[@sugarnap245]

Size, mate.

[@Bigjuggs64]

Hate that white panel at the back.

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Anything she demo’s I’m going to watch and like...she can demo a tin can with a spoon...LIKE! 😉

[@PaulGBass]

She's not THAT hot, you must either be desperate, a total loser or never go out...

[@digitaldiezel5870]

PaulGBass Whoa! Be nice to the ladies! I think you need to go out and get some manners instead of being rude and lame. You’re a sad excuse...

[@fudashimayne6633]

@@digitaldiezel5870 I'm sure she's clamoring to get at chivalrous white knights behind a screen whose sole motivation is some snatch

[@ryfipassword]

still prefer roland's ju06. love my ju06.