MORE Powder For More POWER?...10MM & .40S&W Sinterfire Self-Defense AMMO Test!

[@stolnpckup]

Save the 40s.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@mikek5298]

Why??

[@stolnpckup]

@@mikek5298 cause I said so.

[@baconatordoom]

@@mikek5298 The same projectile technology that brought 9mm back into the mainstream also applies to .40. And the velocity loss/gain from different .40 barrel lengths seems to not differ all that much compared to other calibers . Also “Budget” .40 JHP’s tend to work in compact/sub .40s.

[@HalfBreedMix]

As I said before, it's all the "tacti-cool" people of the internet that seemed to convince the masses that 9mm was the end-all & be-all of bullet selection for handguns. In short; most gun newbies knew enough that the bigger calibers packed more oomph, so when the guntubers start preaching just how great 9mm had now become, this new info was seen as a revelation (the new hotness) and everything thing else was "Fudd territory". 40 cal, which was a slightly toned down version of the FBI's overcompensation to a certain shootout that didn't go very well for the LEOs, never lost its advantage over the 9mm,,,,,,,,,,,, but whatever, other people's misconception helped keep me stocked up during the ammo shortage during the great cough of 2020😎

[@felixd7818]

This ammo will give ER doctors nightmares. It’s like a no9 shot shell in a pistol only with smoother operation and more range. I rather like this stuff.

[@RL-RL]

MagicPrepper just did a video about how weak 10mm is compared to 40S&W. He was also complaining about how weak 10mm is loaded, and you might as well just go with 40. The takeaway was that MOST 10MM will not cycle or do it's job when needed in many tools. I was very late commenting, but metioned your channel to let people know about how you do things and tell it like it is. I wish I got to the video sooner for more views, but due to today being Veterans day, I took a long road trip to the National Cemetary in Salisbury N.C. to see my Father, and the rich history that dates back to the late 1700's. Thank you to all that serve and have served to protect us, I salute YOU!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Amen! Appreciate ya, brother.😎👊

[@RL-RL]

@@ToolsandTargets It still blows my mind why this channel hasn't hit 100K subs. When YT suggests other similar channels to watch, I just click "Not Interested". Oh, and BTW, you can stick your brace back on your shorty AR now!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, we'll get there eventually. I aint in no hurry with the braces. I imagine an appeal from the scumbag feds is just around the corner.@@RL-RL

[@RL-RL]

@@ToolsandTargets A Federal judge has deemed the AFT's ruling unconstitutional. It's over! PERIOD! 💯🎉

[@effeojnedib7208]

Another difference between the .40 auto and 10mm cases, is the 10 mm uses a large pistol primer, .40 is small pistol. Love it. lol "Faster than the .40, so I guess it's a 10 mil.." I'm with you on that. Wouldn't want to get shot with one, but I prefer something a little heavier with expansion when it stops. I want something that can stop a big black bear if needed, as well as 2 legged critters. My .40 carry is Underwood 155 grain, advertised at 1300 fps.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊 True. The Blazer 10mm I have is small primer, but I think they might be the only ones I've seen.

[@timrobinson6573]

If they could design the fragmentation to go another 2-3 inches in gel then this would be seriously compelling

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@sj6404]

Not sure why its not compelling now - the slug goes 17 1/4" - it that was just a hollow point we would all be rejoicing. The 7 1/2" fragmentation is a huge bonus. If you get a square chest shot, you're going to get heart and spine in the same shot unless the target is some huge fella.

[@timrobinson6573]

The slug is only 50 grains. If it hits bone or almost anything harder than gel then its penetration depth would not be as deep. Gel is not the human body, 7 1/2 inches in GEL is a bad flesh wound. As for your comment about a square chest shot, that's a best case scenario. Choosing your ammo based on a best case scenario is foolish. You choose your ammo based on the worst case. Everything about your comment is fantasy or made up stuff in your mind. Having real world experience is crucial to compare against gel test results. Its the difference between academic results and real world experience.

[@greenyoshi777]

Still a surgical nightmare.

[@TreyRhine-lh3ic]

​@@timrobinson6573idk about your logic here cause bullet placement trumps all.

[@richardhillier442]

Still love'n my 40 S&W. Thanks Tools 🔧 😊

[@alessandropereirapassos6220]

Good results to both. And finally a good ammo in 10MM.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@p2o8wer]

I was just on southern defense looking up 10mm and seen this ammo. It actually caught my eye for some reason. Then I open you tube and BAM!! 15 min ago u posted a video on this ammo. This is the best ballistics channel on you tube hands down!!

[@kimness7796]

Thanks for another great test!!! Those numbers remind me of 9mm +P and .357 SIG..... Love your shirt!!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. 😎👊

[@billieglennbusch2189]

Glad to see someone else appreciates the shirt 😂😂😂

[@MRJACK10BOY]

Thanks Tools I appreciate all that you do. It's nice to see someone actually doing testing and gun stuff. I get get burned out with all the ammo shortage fearing and other non sense videos. Just know you are appreciated.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I know exactly what you mean.😎👊

[@rsbreeze]

They would do some damage! 1350 fps will kill!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I read that in Doug Marcaida's voice.😆

[@rsbreeze]

@@ToolsandTargets great minds think alike! I love that show!

[@myglide58]

I'd like to see what these do on a hard barrier

[@ToolsandTargets]

definitely

[@goodnewseverybody739]

Definitely will suck😆 I say that b/c they are probably meant to. Less chance of ricochet and stray shot in someone’s bedroom. More of a home defense rnd than an edc

[@blood_rayven3253]

I love that I can always come to this channel and use it as a 10mm ballistic data encyclopedia

[@tubbyshvfd9110]

My biggest issue with it ….the fragments don’t really penetrate much past where it occurs. But it’s consistent in performance

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, hard to say how much effect they would have it didn't hit center mass or head.

[@CookieMonster_1969]

I enjoy your 10mm rants🤣 I usually agree with you. Between you and The Turkey's Opinion, I am considering getting back to reloading because of 10 mm.🤷‍♂

[@ToolsandTargets]

Seems like the best way to get the good stuff.

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

For specialty/ fragmenting rounds they impress more than any I’ve seen. The frag went fairly deep compared to most. Definitely curious how they’d work through barriers. Haven’t tried or seen it locally. Thanks for the test Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@racecitypatriot66]

❤40s&w and 10mm when the 10 is really 10. Thanks for the test tools👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥👊💥

[@baconatordoom]

I’ve been buying this in 10mm at my local shop. Not spectacular. But for the price off it, at least in my area. I can’t complain. Glad you tested it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

It would definitely adjust a bad attitude.😎👊

[@keithmcdonnell4485]

3:29 "I ain't rantin' about that"... could have fooled me :D

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂

[@DrQuagmire1]

@@ToolsandTargets and they haven't cast you in an action movie opposite "Kentucky Ballistics" yet? well that's bullshit, HA!!!

[@margarethouse404]

Fact of Life of Physics! The sintered copper & tin is considerably less dense than lead. The limiting factor in bullet design is the Length . To meet COL , and still have somewhat adequate powder space for the. 40 , it can only be so long . If you pulled a SinterFire projectile , it would probably be similar length as a .400 180gr JHP .

[@Swampytheroot]

They'll do in a pinch. I use the 1776 brand 10mm frangible for indoor range. Same bullet weight, same velocity. Think they were $20/50, so I got a couple cases just for brass to reload. It's actually good, consistent target ammo. Velocity is very stable in the 1350-1360 range from a 4" S&W 2.0 10mm

[@peacemaker-du4hz]

light for caliber or not..getting smacked with either one is still gonna leave a mark

[@ToolsandTargets]

That's a fact.😎👊

[@rjw261984]

I dont mind the rants. Best part of your live streams 😂. Matter of fact when is the next one? Appreciate you Tools. 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

I gotta get on that. Seems like one thing after another going wrong lately around here getting me behind.

[@nikos6220]

Especially the 10mm looks pleasantly unpleasant

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂

[@transtubular]

Jeez, you could get a 124gr bullet going 1120 FPS in a 9mm. Not as loud and easier to conceal. What are they thinking??? Gel performance though is impressive, I will give them that.

[@Arminius-yi2vs]

@Tools&Targets - The projectiles are 90% Copper & 10% Tin. Saw them at a Rural King maybe 2 years ago.

[@Texas2Step79]

I'm here for the moral support of the watered down 10mm epidemic... we .357 sig guys totally relate to the debacle...

[@ToolsandTargets]

No caliber is safe anymore!😆

[@timparkhurst8661]

It is just nice knowing it is available and the option to run this ammo is there if your circumstances dictated it. To play on the range or comparison even. You can pick your ammo, you can pick your friends, see what happens when you try to pick your friends ammo! The more ammo, the merrier. Thanks tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Never bad to have options.😎👍

[@SomebodysNephew]

Wow, the difference in feet per second was impressive. The way the fragmentation is controlled to cause maximum damage. Thank you for showing us this beauty of an ammo I would carry this stuff.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@mikebott6940]

So... these seem to produce results like Glaser rounds, but without being packed with shot and (probably) being a little more affordable. I already have favorites when it comes to carry ammo, but that wound pattern is vicious stuff.

[@ToolsandTargets]

It does look nasty.

[@DinoNucci]

40 is the correct answer vs human sized questions

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🧟‍♂️💥

[@davidwoolard1264]

Close to 357 sig velocity, would probably still be effective but I am with you I want full bore 10mm like Buffalo Bore.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🐃💥

[@yomomma107]

Thanks for all you do for the gun nut community Brian We appreciate you 😎👊

[@Stumppjumper74]

Interesting ammo and testing as usual! Someone picked up some 10mm Hornady Custom 155gr for me at Bass Pro, it’s says 1410 fps. That seems like it would be a decent round. I haven’t heard of that one before.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Hmmm, not sure if I have tried any of those.

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍 Thanks Tools, your test are the best.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that as always, brother.😎👊

[@natereinhold6180]

Id really like to see what the 135gn HST, from the "low-recoil" line of .40, loaded up to max pressures does in gel

[@josephpluth3895]

I have the 9mm and 40 S&W. After watching great videos like yours I am amazed at how consistently it performs, and the price is great. HST may go deeper, but I doubt it is even as consistent.

[@bobwilson758]

Very nice photography ! Good job , good test . Thanks big buddy !

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊

[@alexandermfernandez9283]

This stuff seems effective in the gel , but like you , I have my doubts and don't understand why they can't push 'em faster . Love your videos , they're AWESOME ! Thank you so much .

[@ToolsandTargets]

Really appreciate that again, brother!😎👊

[@13BravoBiggunsM110SP]

Have these in 45,40 and 9mm 9mn 100 grain, 40 135 grain,45 acp 165 grain, but for defense for close ranges they are going to change the bad guys choices, and they have a less chance of collateral damage 🤔 i also carry them mix load with a sig v crown and a sinter fire 1 +1 or 1 sig and 2 sinter fire in several magazines and 2 or three magazines with just sig v crown or gold dot jhp, and would carry them, sinter fire in 357 sig , but they don't have them in this type, but carry the 357 v crown in my g33

[@hickspanicKS]

Hey Tools, did you ever get around to doing the hard barrier test? Great content as always, thanks 👍

[@Bob-lq9ys]

I wouldn't want to get hit with either one, thanks for another great ammo test

[@camojoe83]

It's like steel shot vs lead. They cant make a projectile that's standard size at the proper higher weight. The material just isn't nearly as dense.

[@3gunshooter60]

I'm very interested in seeing the barrier tests with all the calibers, tools. It is interesting stuff, but the jury is still out.

[@timrobinson6573]

If they could design the fragmentation to go another 2-3 inches in gel then this would be seriously compelling.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Same here.😎👍

[@blacklight6200]

These rounds are surprisingly nice looking. However the speeds the 10 was going is the speed the 40 should have been going. Sad to see such slow rounds when they could be so much faster.

[@A_Brit]

Boy i tell you what, I'm more impressed by this round with each test. On people, these would be devastating.

[@ToolsandTargets]

It gets harder for me not to like em every time.😆

[@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083]

That stuff is cheap too. I saw it as the cheapest option for a box of 50 in 10mm. It was different weight projectiles though if I remember correctly.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, it usually is pretty low priced.

[@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083]

I actually didn't remember correctly lol. It was 50 rounds. However it was 2 boxes of 25 and they were the same weight projectiles. The other thing that isn't as true as I thought was the price. It was definitely cheap when I saw it at the local sporting goods store. When I looked it up just now it's seemingly becoming a bit more expensive. Still cheap compared to other "self defense" ammo. It was almost like the store I went to was marketing it as target ammunition actually. They had winchester white box and blazer all right there with the sinterfire. Meanwhile, gold dot, Hornaday, fort Scott etc etc, were neatly stacked a foot or 2 away. I had no idea they were frangeable either. Until this video.

[@robertwess4556]

Another good ammo test

[@caleb6988]

Great test brother tools and this is why you're the best freedom seed testing channel on KZbin.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that!😎👊

[@yaboydb8381]

I was waiting on the 10mm test with this ammo… not bad but probably not a carry option for me…. Thanks for the hard work!

[@ToolsandTargets]

They do what they claim.😎👊

[@crsquirrely73]

I think both of them worked really well and I think you're cutting that 10 mm short I'd use that ammo if I had a 10 mm but I might order some of that for my 40 cal

[@ToolsandTargets]

I wouldn't throw it away.😎👍

[@timg7627]

Good test. Well done. I have no use for a round like that but it’s cool they perform as advertised.

[@MichaelMiller-op5sx]

Great testing as always. I picked some of this stuff up about a year ago in 380acp, 9mm,and 40cal it was extremely cheap. Probably almost 1/2 the price of liberty civil defense.. the 40cal test looks good. And its 125 gr verses 60 grain a heavier disc or slug by at least 20 grain. Doe you honestly think this sinterfire is as good as the liberty or maybe better especially in the 40cal??

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Point of impact would be a massive mess. What a disruptive cavity that would cause. Very-very interesting power dump on both calibers. Great test and commentary. Think I would give them a go if need be. Shot placement would be key. Ammo performed as advertised. Barrier testing would be interesting. Thanks for sharing and be safe. ⭐️⭐️🇺🇸⭐️⭐️

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely messy.💥😎👊💥

[@Kaelland]

Are we excited for some arithmetic? Good! The .40 S&W ammo is averaging 1,061 feet per second at 50 yards, giving us an average kinetic energy of 312 energy foot pounds at 50 yards. That's not bad. But how did the 10mm do? Well, as we all know, the design specification for 10mm calls for a 200-grain bullet to have a striking velocity of at least 1,000 feet per second at 50 meters. That gives a 50-meter striking energy (Ke50) of 444 energy foot pounds, which is the number we need to know in order to figure out if ammo loaded with something other than a 200-grain bullet meets the requirements to actually be 10mm instead of just .40 S&W Long. And in short, this stuff didn't do that. The "10mm" ammo averaged 1,161 feet per second at 50 yards, which sounds great until we remember that we're using a 125-grain bullet. And when we do the math on the Ke50 of this ammo, it's giving us a whopping 374 energy foot pounds. That falls well short of our minimum requirement of 444 energy foot pounds. In order to meet the minimum requirement, every shot would have to have a V50 of at least 1,265 feet per second. And we're well short of that. That said, the projectiles performed as intended, and the main core did get pretty good penetration. It's just not REAL 10mm ammo. Thanks for the test, Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I love these breakdowns!😎👊

[@Kaelland]

@@ToolsandTargets I'm happy to do them. I'm so glad you have the LabRadar so that we can find out the real numbers.

[@Dwayne7834]

The fragments would shred up a stomach hit . I know what they say about the plywood. But curious about what they do with a rib bone hit . Thanks for the video 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

It might take me a few shots to hit a rib bone.😆😆😆

[@Dwayne7834]

@@ToolsandTargets I was thinking about a chest shot on a man. . 👍Thanks for the reply and yes a single rib would be tough to hit.

[@Coyote66MB]

This is my daily carry ammo in 40s&w i like it cause it softer shooting in my shield and preformance is great shoots great. Id still like to see the performance on a ballistic dummy

[@brockhowell2296]

BOTH of those look pretty brutal!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@brandiwynter]

It would be interesting to pull one of those bullets and load it up to true 10mm velocity and see how it performs. Might be hard to find the right load data though.

[@ToolsandTargets]

🤔

[@camojoe83]

Another note on sintered rounds and their apparent lack of spice: it's very possible that loading these up to full power velocity would turn them into chunks inside the barrel. Not a great look to suddenly have a 5 foot range shotgun when you meant to have a 10mm asteroid heading down range.

[@allenbolen9705]

Not bad for what they are. Just not sold on fragmenting bullets. Thanks

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, brother.😎👊

[@rbur394]

I love these type of rounds . Im glad i picked up a bunch of boxes on clearance for $6.99 a while back. Cant wait for the barrier test to see how these and other rounds do like my edc of the liberty civil defense. Ps defiant munitions wants in on the barrier testing they left a comment earlier today on another vid.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good price. They better be careful what they wish for!😜

[@rbur394]

@@ToolsandTargets lol seems like this could end up being a multi part series

[@hoffpbass]

How many in a box? $7 is probably the only reason I'd pick any of these up.

[@rbur394]

@@hoffpbass 20

[@ElainesDomain]

I carry the .40 but nothing under 165gr. These look ok so far. The plywood test might change a couple of peoples minds about packing these. Thanks for the test. The wifey hasn't seen this type of ammo before.

[@ElainesDomain]

@@SuperD00D Thanks for the info. My carry ammo is from the early 90's however I'm certain it's good. Very different from today. I thought the new stock is ok but watching this channel and others it turns out that it isn't. I'll take your advice and look but I have a dislike for light projectiles. Thank you for your concern about my safety.

[@Novaprime64]

These would be interesting to see out of a longer tool too, pcc in a 16, especially that 10mm, thinking of getting a pcc in 10, and those looked to perform phenomenally, I would be confident in those being in my tools

[@MariusNortje-w3g]

A Hornady 9mm 115gr. XTP RUNNING @ 1250 is more youll ever need. Try it...Beretta 92.

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

Another good test, Brian! I'm with you about not being convinced with these as yet. I would like to see the 10mm bullet at closer to 165 gr and at actual 10mm velocities. I suspect it would be a good bullet *if it performs the same way!* In the meantime I'll stick with my Lehigh bullets. They are light for caliber yet penetration is very consistent, as is the disruption in the gel (although it's much more visually appealing in 10% gelatin than in the clear gel). Time will tell! Cheers, jc

[@ToolsandTargets]

Gotta sling these through some hard stuff for sure.😎👊

[@lonewanderer3603]

If you were really worried about pass through (living in apartments or something) then maybe this is a decent choice. For me, I want a much heavier bullet that stays together. I don't like anything less than 155 and for 10mm I'd rather have a 200 grain traditional hollow point.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@ericklingshirn8838]

Good test as always! That makes for some serious jelly clean up.

[@johngrunwell]

These totally resemble R.I.P. projectiles, but the R.I.P. had a metal core. For a frontal shot, where the chest is between 8 to maybe 10 inches in death these rounds would be very damaging even just one solid hit. As always nice demonstration. Would I carry these? I don’t know just how effective if heavier barriers were involved, maybe not.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@natereinhold6180]

I wonder how well those fragments will bust through bone? Or will it hit bone and fragment even more?

[@chriswigington1572]

Man it sure would be cool to see a controlled chaos that ammo seems to be pretty legit I’d like to see u test some of it in 300 blackout against something else.. love your videos brother keep ‘em coming!!

[@corvetteman0714]

Another great video Tools, thanks.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@MrSumGuns]

Great video as always thanks!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@johnb7430]

Here's an idea. Put 2/3 to 3/4 of the sintered metal in front of a 120gr pure soft lead core. Half jacket or plated cu around the lead portion. Make the total weight 150 to 170gr. Powder to push it to 1300 fps. The sintered should shatter / fragment and dump energy and the core penetration (even after a hard barrier) will be good. In theory

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥👨‍🔬💥

[@ricklastname9427]

i've seen a couple of your vids now where you talk about how you don't think these types of rounds (sinterfire, liberty civil defense, etc) will provide sufficient penetration on a target....maybe do a video where you have some ribs, cloths, etc in front of the gel block? kind of a modified meat target? just something to show if those high speed light weight bullets would be drastically effected by things like bones, skin, clothing, etc? just a thought, could make for an interesting video and something a little different...

[@crsquirrely73]

I'm hoping that you will try the new 10 mm ammo from Hornady they are claiming 1250 fps but they didn't say barrel length

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@pferoxtheskeeterguy]

Nice test, but I'll stick with my 180grn 40 smith hand loads, thanks.

[@Jmask245]

I love the 10mm rants I also now carry Buffalo bore for work cuz of you

[@reekgoesoutside]

That thing would be devastating to bad guys. I can't see why it couldn't be a viable edc round. New bullets don't have to go 1300 fps, that's speed is for bullets that were designed for early 10mm, bullet technology has definitely caught up

[@josephpacchetti5997]

Now I remember these, they look like the R.I.P. rounds, I may go back and watch the 9mm test again. Thank Brian, have safe weekend. 👊 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. They leave a big ol mess.😎👊

[@robwilson3749]

"Heavy on the powder jelly time!" I have to tell you, I'm hesitant to keep watching the entire test because there's a ........10 mil test involved. Lol.

[@jamesmikesell5458]

I love the 40's . But I'll stick with 165 grn v crown

[@adamannala5498]

Just weird stuff from .380 all the way up from what I’ve seen. Also the most comprehensive testing of this weird type of stuff I’ve personally seen on the tube. Way to keep at it tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@arby2348]

10 mm, even marginally loaded 10mm, is relatively good personal protection performance nomatter what the bullet technology. Maybe the same can be said for the 40. Nice test. Much appreciated.

[@ratagris21]

You're better off getting .40 cal at least is not over hyped life is 10mm on the label beside buffalo bore.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@7N6ballistics]

The 10mm actually looked very interesting. Penetration was good, fragments went well off the main channel and penetrated to a reasonable depth. Pull a bullet..these projectiles likely take up quite a bit of case capacity…close to 200fps faster is generally what can be expected of 10mm vs .40. These may have some actual scenario use where the terminal effect might be advantageous…especially the 10mm. I would be curious to see how the core holds together on bone…that would be my biggest concern…otherwise this seems like a potential option for a fragmenting bullet.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Results are quite good. But it would be nice to get a bit more velocity. The 10 is running like an overgrown 357 Sig. Not as much mass at the end of the job as I like. Stay warm out there.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. Thank you sir.😎👊

[@larryfloyd5487]

A buddy of mine accidentally (lol) fired his spring field 10mm while he was sitting in his living room and the sinterfire went through his Sheetrock ceiling and through the roof of his house including the plywood and through the asphalt shingle roof and the exit hole was as big as a quarter.

[@Joefrom_DirtyNJ]

Was thinking about them. Just watched a video from Team Never Quit

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Joefrom_DirtyNJ]

What would you think a good over all 10mm round would be?

[@ToolsandTargets]

My absolute favorite is Buffalo Bore 180 grain.😎👍@@Joefrom_DirtyNJ

[@Joefrom_DirtyNJ]

@@ToolsandTargets that’s the one with the nolser tip?

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I think they call it Heavy 10mm on their site.@@Joefrom_DirtyNJ

[@mikeautry2271]

How about 45 long colt......then 22 mag...PMR 30....????

[@ToolsandTargets]

I do have a few different .45 Colt rounds I need to test. I wanna get a dedicated .45 Colt handgun instead of just using stuff that's multi cal capable.

[@murphymmc]

Intriguing ammo. What we need now is to see reports of it's performance in actual shootings. In the past, high speed, lightweight bullets always sounded good, but real life performance showed sketchy results. The 90gr 9mm Super Vel was one of the first to disappoint. These things with that explosive fragmentation than occurs pretty close to heart/lung depth could be a big deal. It would definitely render any limb useless with that grenade spread. A ballistic gel dummy with all the correct parts and pieces might give more insight.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@buzsalmon]

Great jelly testing Tools....very interesting

[@Atum_Ra]

After seeing this I'd love to see these rounds through about 1/4" of mdf to simulate bone. At first impression it looks nasty in gel like G9 RIP but my concern would be you pop an attacker in the chest and all those little fragments just get stuck in his chest instead of passing through the sternum area were almost any other round would pass through 100% Unless someone can prove it I'm thinking these ultra fragmenting rounds are ultimately just a modern day blunderbuss 🎉

[@poisonPpaully]

125 should be 13-1400 in 40 and 15-1600 in 10mm if not more

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed.

[@matthewtalich9989]

In the somewhat limited service role this ammo was designed to fulfill such as courtroom security or any situation where the population density is extremely high and collateral damage as a result of discharging a weapon is extremely high even if you make the perfect shot and hit the bad guy but most conventional ammo could possibly carry some force thru that bad guy into someone standing inches away this ammo is good. But for all other purposes it falls short. I think this ammo would be great for anyone working with the TSA or anyone carrying in non-permissive environment assuming your the rare exception to the rule or possibly not.

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

Great jelly test tools Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸

[@TheColonelJJ]

Waiting for the barrier tests!!!

[@hoffpbass]

C'Mon Man! I need the 10mm rant again this week. It never gets old from you, Tools. Love it 😅 That said, considering the Obesity epidemic, I have my doubts that these rounds would work in the real world if the main energy dump is all in fat and not reaching vitals. I suppose it might be enough to break cover and run to safety, but that can never be guaranteed.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@robwilson3749]

Never? Never?..... On the obesity epidemic, you ain't lying there. Of course 14" inches on the .40 core isn't anything to sneeze at either. Personally I'd take the penetration showing of the 10 mil over the .40 if given a choice but seeing as I don't use 10mm., I'd likely stay with a deeper penetrating .40 load than these. That said though, Stay Puff Marshmallow kicks in the door at 2am. on a cookie raid? I wouldn't exactly feel like I was working against a deficit with these in .40 either. A double tap using these? Even on Waddling Whales in pursuit of nefarious undertakings, I'm thinking it would be like a fully fueled cargo jet undergoing a load shift in the first few seconds of liftoff.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

I guess it would be good for an upclose Self Defense scenario in an apartment/ house where over penetration factors in ut not a fan. It would make a bloody mess !

[@ToolsandTargets]

You'd definitely need to clean the carpet afterwards.😆

[@billdubois56]

Another great jelly test Brotha ..

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you again, my friend.😎👊

[@Cr0wmagnum]

I still think you should test some 10mm hunting rounds. This weak 10mm stuff is just not 10mm. Just makes me rethink the .40

[@ToolsandTargets]

I gotta get the new 10mm I got test so I can use it for some stuff.😎👊