More Tech Than A Model S For Less Than A Model 3 - Rising F7

A review of the Rising R7, a Model S-sized car that costs less than a Model 3.
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Rising has come a long way from merely being a sporty product line of the budget Roewe brand. Now a brand in its own right, more upmarket and fully electric, it's entering a brutally competitive space.
So how does their second car, the svelte-looking full-size saloon F7, set itself apart from the competition? Well if you like a great driving position, rear seat entertainment, battery swapping ability, or even just a rear hatch instead of a saloon trunk, you might just find the F7 to be a very compelling proposition. Oh, and did we mention it will start at about £22,500 (in China) with the battery rental model?
The F7 is a serious bit of kit for an almost comically low price tag.
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[@cjkenning]

That is stupendous spec for a car at that price!! Couldn't even get a entry level car for that in the UK!!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Corsa Electric £39k. This: As little as £16k with battery rental option. Outrageous.

[@BienestarMutuo]

yes, this is a tesla killer.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@BienestarMutuo Maybe not a killer but honestly a very good car for the ridiculous price.

[@marcushull12]

Chinese government massively funds their car makers so they can squash the competition.

[@reginald7214]

Apparently this vehicle is at the Geneva auto show today under the mg9 logo. Europe here we come. Nevo Ireland has a short video from the show.

[@Just-a-guy926]

That is a nice looking car .

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It is. Quite sexy.

[@user-ft8np9ey9f]

Great video 😊 Wow that is a ridiculously cheap car for what you get! I love the dashboard and the sleek design. Also a karaoke microphone? thats insane. I bet if it does comes to Europe it will be 5x more than China.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It really is ridiculously cheap. Let's see if it ever gets to Europe. Would likely be at least twice the price there, maybe 2.5x, but would be a really good deal at that price.

[@richardlphillips]

Take my money!!!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I would if I was SAIC. They need more sales of these.

[@RedBatteryHead]

Pretty piece of kit in there. S class layout.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It is pretty, quite attractive inside and out.

[@NiejakiDD]

Tesla could learn how to design properly a front end. Cute! 😊

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Nice front end on this, eh?

[@Cobraguy321]

Great review thanks. Loved the car if it came to the UK I would certainly consider buying it.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

You're welcome mate. I hope it does at some point.

[@user-iz3gv5vo6b]

Quite a bit of kit for a reasonable price. It appears that the build quality is just so-so, but you're getting the equivalent of a Model S for less than the price of a Model 3.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Exactly. Crazy money.

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

@@InsideChinaAuto more like a discount Nio than a cheap Tesla.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@johnsmith-cw3wo You're right, it's got more features and quality than a Tesla. Discount NIO it is.

[@toyotaprius79]

Looks better than the recent Model 3 refresh

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I agree with that 100%. New 3 looks very generic.

[@Clarioner1]

Very nice looking car, I would love one of these. Due to it being a hatchback I can get the dog in the back, I don;t know why more "sedans" aren't hatchback. Even the model 3 looks a hatchback and isn't - it would be so much more versatile if it was.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Exactly. You can make a beautiful saloon-esque car and still make it a hatch. Skoda managed to make it both.

[@Clarioner1]

@@InsideChinaAuto I had the Skoda Superb and it really was great, big, luxurious, quiet, smooth and a massive hatch boot.

[@turbosalsa]

That’s a good looking car if it comes to the UK at those prices it will be. A hit, but will require a rear load clover/shelf.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Here's hoping they consider it for sale abroad as they haven't touched that yet. They'd likely be more successful there than they currently are here.

[@199724]

Looks like the new Model 3 but half the price and not stripped down to a minimal outfit.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yup, though just remember it came out first. Haha.

[@Scarbir]

Great design 😮

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It is a looker. The front DRLs are really nice, pointy and sharp design.

[@NunoLima1337]

We have to seriously consider whether it is more important to have tariffs to protect the European auto industry from lower cost competition from Asia vs taking several years extra to convert the ICE passenger car fleet to 0 tailpipe emissions.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

There's probably a balance to be struck there somewhere, but right now Europe is somehow denying there's even an issue (the brands) and preparing to be eradicated (the governments) at the same time.

[@I_dont_want_an_at]

that's a nice model 3

[@InsideChinaAuto]

A much larger and better equipped one.

[@WellingtonAest]

Que carro lindo,perfeito demais,nunca vi nada parecido

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It is a stunning car, especially the front.

[@Egal0190]

Does somebody know the current state of some kind of battery swapping standard? I think it was like 3-4 years ago, when i read that China is planning something like a standard for this. Which would be a huge advantage as soon es all those Chinese brands are sold globally in huge numbers, when they all can share one swapping station network, i guess. But somehow it seems every brand is going for their own system still. Maybe the article about some standard was just bs, as i haven't heard something about it ever since?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Not heard anything about a standard either. Makes sense though, but not easy at all.

[@tommyjakobsen5504]

nice car, is that the Next MG7 electric for europa (from SAIC motor)

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It's not the same as the new MG7 which sadly is an ICE car only for now. Good looking car nonetheless but this is bigger.

[@kops8835]

请问 您这期视频拍摄地在哪？

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Sure, it's a large lake and some rivers to the west of Shanghai called 淀山湖.

[@user-fs9kc1vo4o]

补贴已被取消。

[@wormxzing]

SAIC❤

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Like this car a lot, really sexy stuff.

[@nahomhailu8287]

Is the r7 better than the f7

[@doniyorm7240]

Does it have English menu?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Sadly not, but they know how to do it as they basically make MG too, so it's likely disabled to make exporting it without the company's consent a bit harder. Nothing a software hack can't fix.

[@doniyorm7240]

@@InsideChinaAuto so it’s for China only for now?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@doniyorm7240 For now, yes, sadly. Hopefully it'll make its way out steadily though.

[@WellingtonAest]

Lembra um porshe

[@InsideChinaAuto]

A compliment, certainly.

[@philipgrice1026]

So how many battery swap facilities exist? Where? I bet there's not one withing a thousand miles from where I live in the USA, and no, it's not Alaska.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

This car isn't on sale in the US and this company isn't present there so you're right, there are none. There aren't that many from this brand either even in China but in the video I clearly state what their plans are for that. US doesn't have any battery swapping car makers yet, the best you've got is Duracell for your remote controls.

[@tshikosiphathutshedzotshik1396]

Front: Nio Rear: Xpeng Are copyright laws that loose in China?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

The rear looks nothing like an XPeng, what are you on about? I can see some similarities with NIO at the front but not enough to warrant a copyright effort.

[@Osmosis909]

Very nice looking car, they have definitely taken design inspiration from Tesla, Mercedes etc.. that front end does look like a model 3. I’m not convinced with the battery swap, great idea but in reality it needs the infrastructure. I definitely prefer the design of EV”s coming out of China, just don’t know if a lot of these models would even be sold in Europe

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Can only hope that more are sold outside of China. Currently missing out on a lot of good stuff here.

[@N0rdman]

To answer your question at @00:15:39 you actually already answered in your own question. SUV are it, sedan/saloon cars are dead. The market is flooded with saloon cars and most people want a SUV, demand and supply really.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yup. Sad state of affairs. Some people still like saloons but not always enough.

[@N0rdman]

@@InsideChinaAuto you and me alike; I love my saloon; the balance and harmony of the design is incomparable. To me many SUVs look like overgrown slippers or galoshes, open the trunk and slip the giant's feet in.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@N0rdman 100%. It saddens me that there's now a requirement apparently that all cars need to be stiffened to survive an impact with an SUV. The Model 3 has just been beefed up for exactly this purpose. That's like treating cancer with a painkiller.

[@N0rdman]

@@InsideChinaAuto That might be somewhat of a blessing in disguise; I've worked as a fireman in the past, and while we think mostly of fiery blazes the majority of the incidents you go to are road accidents. I remember many of them still as it was yesterday; one was a small panel van that was t-boned by a truck, while the damage on the truck was almost imperceivable the van was almost half as wide, and the poor man inside as we cut him out of the wreck wasn't a pretty sight. There is always going to be bigger and heavier objects in traffic to impact with, lorries, lamp post made of rigid steel, etc. I wouldn't want anyone traveling I love travel in those nasty little tin boxes we had back in the 1990s.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@N0rdman True, but when does it end? How do we decide we've made things big and heavy and inefficient enough, when the weight and safety achieved has now become too much. Surely there are better ways.

[@I_dont_want_an_at]

what is that unnecessary short concrete wall next to those roads. It irks me

[@InsideChinaAuto]

There's a kind of boardwalk below it around the coast of the lake. The wall just keeps you away from falling over the edge onto the boardwalk.

[@willliamjocz3606]

The Tesla reveal gets millions of views on utube.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

As you would expect, they're a ten year old massive company, not a one year old tiny KZbin channel.

[@blex5579]

ket me guess 60k in europe...nice car tho

[@InsideChinaAuto]

If it ever gets there. These guys would do well to sell these abroad. The parent company sells far more MGs abroad than locally, I think this would get a decent audience outside these shores.

[@grahamjohnson4702]

blex you are not even funny.

[@blex5579]

welp, the BYD Seal was just introduced here in germany- price-wise on par with Tesla 3-similar config..in figures 55k... add the Tesla supercharging-grid and minor flaws in the Seal`s recharging capabilities and you end up with not that awesome a deal...just saying, this goes for MANY chinese cars here in europe...wrong strategy i`d say...@@grahamjohnson4702

[@Itsallgoodtogo]

Sadly when chinese cars come to the EU market they cost almost double that so its gonna be fighting against the model S instead xD What batery is inside? LFP? Looking forward to the day I can get a 25k electric "Hatchback" like this car with enough room in the back. You can leave out all the fancy screens. Just give me a good daily driver.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Even at double the price you'd be up against a Model 3 in the UK so it'd be a little better than you think. As for the screens, i can only say good luck with that. I think on Chinese cars at least they're here to stay, even if I don't think they're necessarily what most Europeans want.

[@EveCaola]

Unfortunately, the Chinese prefer imported cars, such as those from Germany and the United States. It's a pity that Chinese people don't buy such good works.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

That used to be the case but that's changing fast. The demographic is shifting as young people start to see what their country makes is really good, much better than it used to be. The older generation still trust the foreign stuff.

[@possumsam2189]

It is all right for the price. The interior styling is a tad conservative when compared to the competition. There are quite a few Chinese EVs that are also looking into Battery swapping so it may not be as big of a selling pt when it actually comes out.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

True. It'll have GAC and NIO to contend with at least by then but let's see.

[@gw4182]

“Alright” for the price? Even in China this is stupidly cheap for the spec x if it had an Audi badge on the front it would be 2.5x the price!

[@Nat_Ryder]

I really like that they didn't have a branded sound system, which means you don't have to pay more just to brag about somebody's name on your sound system which only morons do, I think.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Exactly. It's decent enough as it is.

[@gzoechi]

Quite a stuid idea that is DOA

[@InsideChinaAuto]

What's the stupid idea?

[@gzoechi]

@@InsideChinaAuto Replaceable batteries

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@GunterZochbauer Works really well for NIO right now. People switch out a battery for a full one in just 3 minutes and there are about 1600 stations across the country. Still sound stupid?

[@gzoechi]

@@InsideChinaAuto How many stations are there where they can switch the batteries? I guess it's less than 1/1000th of charging stations and people are still complaining about not enough charging stations. This approach is complete nonsense.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@GunterZochbauer Nobody is really complaining about not enough charging stations here, though in Germany I understand the situation is quite different. The simple thing with this system is that you may have to queue behind another user swapping their battery but they'll be done in 3 minutes then you go in and you're done in 3 minutes, 0-100% charged. With this model you also don't own the battery, you rent it, so you have no concerns over warranty and you don't pay that upfront cost. It's not perfect, but it's a viable solution that hundreds of thousands of NIO users are using today, and in Beijing a lot of taxi drivers too.

[@I_dont_want_an_at]

the thing about microphones is that you can hear everyone in the car without them

[@InsideChinaAuto]

True, but they create a kind of microphone/karaoke style sound and people here quite like that.

[@I_dont_want_an_at]

I like it except for the Mercedes screens. Not because it's a copy. Copying is fine. It's just an over the top thing, and I wouldn't want a merc that had it either.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It is quite a lot. Good screens, my wife enjoys when she can watch TV on the passenger side, but I like a bit of depth and texture myself.

[@I_dont_want_an_at]

I've never seen anyone drive on a sexy country road in China. Whenever they show a quiet road, it looks too narrow and ill suited to sporty driving. I long to see someone on a Chinese road that looks the business

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Haha. I long to find one. There are some great roads but generally a bit tight or full of speed cameras or trucks.