Mormon / Exmormon Bridge Building

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Faith Unraveled

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@user-mh3tt1nn8c 4 ай бұрын

I’m a 84 year old. Woman. who. left the church this. last by year after. being a member since the age of 17 Anyway thank you for your videos that bring I Truth and I Comfort ❤️🌻

@Faith.unraveled 4 ай бұрын

Sending hugs!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

@michelle5784 4 ай бұрын

After my faith crisis, my relief society president came over and ended up asking me why I was having problems. I told her very simply that i didn't feel like they actually followed the morals and standards that I had. I also said that I was trying to figure out what my relationship with the church was going to be because I couldn't sit through those lessons and we talked about me just being a social member and just coming to activities and I said maybe. It was a nice conversation. A month later, they brought by a Chrismas present for me (on my birthday). It was a plaque that said, "Think Celestial" with a quote from the talk on a card. (Which if you know about that talk, you know he was not super kind about non believers in it.) There was nothing personal about the gift. I was a little hurt that all they could think to being me was the generic gift they were giving to everyone for Christmas. Not even a handwritten note. I thought they were at least here to wish me a happy birthday, but they didn't. I understand they're busy that time of year, really. But I thought briefly that maybe they actually cared about me as an individual and not a person to check off their list. Would it have changed anything? No. But it would have been nice. Anyway, thanks for having this conversation, I'm getting ready to talk to my parents about things soon, so it's nice to hear about boundaries to draw with them.

@Faith.unraveled 4 ай бұрын

I feel every bit of this! 🙏🏻

@brendaklomp7470 4 ай бұрын

When you ask for no contact. If not the monthly treats will not end.

@sinisterhug1394 4 ай бұрын

“Now, let us say a prayer to our dear mother God: ‘YAAASSSSS Queen’, who is all glamorous! 💅” 😂 Thank you for this episode, I love this podcast 💕 💕💕

@Faith.unraveled 4 ай бұрын

😅💕🙏🏻✨🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

@leahcarter6618 4 ай бұрын

I love how you said that deconstructing the church will cause you to see toxic patterns in your family. Wow for me it was the opposite. I woke up to the abuse and toxicity of my birth family almost six years ago and had to set some firm boundaries with them to protect myself. It was just a few years after that that I began to notice the same toxic behavior of the leaders of the church. I had alarm bells going off like crazy. I do believe that’s another reason why so many young people are waking up, because therapy and healthy spaces are no longer stigmatized and they can clearly see the trauma the church creates.

@JDPrimeFit 4 ай бұрын

That makes sense. Once negative energy is sensed in one area it is easier to see it in another. Good luck on your journey!

@vocalysemusicworks 4 ай бұрын

I'm totally about bridge building. Attacks about belief are not helpful, but needing to be heard is important. The biggest thing that needs to happen with every single person is love. Love, Love, Love. If you can't love both members and so-called apostates, then you're not worthy of what life has to offer, either this or any concept of the next, if you believe in a next life.

@GarretPeterson 4 ай бұрын

An excellent resource for this is “crucial conversations”, which is actually more directed at a business context, but has great tools for building bridges across ideological divides. A “Crucial Conversation” is one where 1) opinions differ, 2) emotions run high and 3) outcome matters.

@jonathanhall2479 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for talking about this stuff. Leaving the church is quite the journey and challenge.

@derekbeauchamp2409 Ай бұрын

Only just watched this video, this is a very good thing to talk about. I went through this. I just felt like a outsider. We became a bad apple. Thanks for bringing this up !

@TheSaintelias 4 ай бұрын

Life has so many topics to discuss. We should be able to be friends with many people. Churches create in group v out group, making it hard to just be as people.

@BuggMann91 4 ай бұрын

I'm totally here for the bridge building because that is something I am struggling with. I just had a pretty big fight with my mom about a week ago and I just struggle to not point out the problems in the church. And I want to be better about that

@Faith.unraveled 4 ай бұрын

It’s is such a learning curve!! Wishing you the best on this. Not easy! 🙏

@grantbeck9228 4 ай бұрын

@@phillipcook3430if trying to reinforce the truth of the church, then no thank you. Real friends don’t have motivation other than mutual respect and desire for well being.

@Faith.unraveled 4 ай бұрын

@@phillipcook3430 this started out so kind. Your comment is exactly the reason that these kinds of spaces have to exist. You are obviously not tolerant to concerns against your system.

@AS72831 4 ай бұрын

@@phillipcook3430oh is that ok too, to watch what ever they want? Thanks for the permission. 🙄 Such a high horse you’re on. Your comments are so rude. You don’t want to be kind? Kindness - You know what Jesus preaches. You’re obviously anti his teachings, so does that make you antichrist? Or just Mormon? AKA Sanctimonious, grandiose, gaslighting, self righteous. Keep speaking, you remind us all why we left AND hopefully show others 1. Why they shouldn’t join or 2. Why they should leave. “By their fruits ye shall know them” your fruit is rotten.

@JIKOKALOL 4 ай бұрын

Coming as a born again christian with my precious raised mormon wife most of our kind ward people and missionaries know and respect my different faith and boundaries and mutally I theirs. That is a much different position than yours but hopefully this church will see the light more and more.

@sidneyhowes4255 4 ай бұрын

One of the biggest reasons believing members have a hard time speaking with non believing "members" is because the church does not prepare and give vocabulary to defend the church. They ask you to avoid talking about hard questions because if members do, they would all leave the church when they learn the truth.

@lorenhuish5558 8 күн бұрын

The church builds great bridges by fighting with these small rural towns to put monstrous temples

@Cocoon68 4 ай бұрын

I love your content and it’s hard at this point to not be triggered by anything that spells lds church. My husband isn’t willing to listen to what I have to say about the church history and so I feel very much alone. My kids left years ago for which now I’m so very grateful. So in that way it helps to some degree. But having this rift between my husband and I is difficult. The love is there and that’s what we will have to just hold to because when trying to push any idea the heel digging begins.

@Gremguitar 4 ай бұрын

I like seeing subjects like this explored more in exmormon spaces. We can't control how believers interact with us, but we can control how we interact with them. I've personally been successful at keeping my friends since leaving. These friends range from nuanced to full TBM. A big part of maintaining my relationships is building on common values on things we agree on rather than what we disagree with. This is surprisingly easy to do, and members respond positively to this kind of interaction. One thing I've noticed is once a lot of us leave, we don't just become critical of the mormon church, but we become full blown anti-member (ie all mormons are bad) (see r/exmormon) I don't know exactly why this is, but it's black and white thinking that you wouldn't extend to other group. Plus it's just bad for healing. As ex-cuilt members, binary cult-like thinking is hard to wash off, we go from one extreme to the next. I don't have all the answers, but washing the cult off beyond just deconstructing truth claims has gone a long way. Brit Hartley from Nononsensespirituality has helped me immensely with this. Please get her on your podcast to discuss this issue! Love your content, please keep up the good work!

@BuggMann91 4 ай бұрын

Oh dang this was uploaded a minute ago. I've never been so early

@Faith.unraveled 4 ай бұрын

Welcome!!! ❤❤

@jaybravo2199 4 ай бұрын

Fundamental TBM’s exist in a belief structure where absolute truth is their foundation, and anyone who doesn’t believe as they do are at best naive to the truth, or at worst in denial of that truth. So while a fundamental TBM can certainly maintain a relationship with someone who doesn’t fall in line with their beliefs, the teachings of the church they belong to clearly state their’s is the only way and all shall come to accept that idea in this life or the next. This creates a situation of superiority whether or not the TBM outwardly expresses that attitude. Its akin to a parent placating a child’s belief in Santa or other fantastical ideas while “knowing” that their child will one day mature and realize their childish fantasies are not real. To clarify, this is certainly not unique to mormonism, but I believe it is at the core of fundamental mormonism.

@jonipitcher7185 4 ай бұрын

I love you guys and what you are doing. I wonder if maybe you might could edit out some of the "negative" things you share on this episode because i think being able to share the stuff you said but not "trigger" a believer it would help bridge the gap too.

@Faith.unraveled 4 ай бұрын

I totally get this and appreciate the feedback!

@TheSaintelias 4 ай бұрын

The truth isn’t always clean and happy.

@badasspeacemaker 3 ай бұрын

Hey, I'm in San Diego County. Can we meet up???

@trevanon7450 4 ай бұрын

I have to wonder what faith (if any) people watching these videos have. Mormon Stories did 2 community polls and got 50 and 70% nevermos. But with the ex RS president they had on this week they had a poll in the chat where 30% mentioned being nevermo. So the percentages are different from video to video? I'm sure there will be TBMs watching this but the percentages off those will logically also be very different. (Dutch nevermo and atheist here.)