Moro & Granolah NOT Getting Animated in Dragon Ball Super!?

Toei Animation and Toyotaro take their Dragon Ball continuities in different directions as it appears Toei animation have no intention of animating Moro & Granolah. As Dragon Ball fans wait for the next big announcement from Toei Animation regarding the return of the anime or the next movie project, Dragon Ball Super quickly moves past the Manga of Dragon Ball Super's Moro & Granolah arcs with it's 2 movies of Dragon Ball Super Broly & it's sequel, Dragon Ball Super Super Hero. With no sign of Moro or Granolah even getting referenced in the last movie, and with no announcement of a return series for Super - it really seems as though these arcs are bound to paper forever.
#dragonball #dragonballsuper #Moro #granolah #dragonballsuperreturn #dragonballz #dragonballsuperbroly #dragonballsupersuperhero

[@mdxque8393]

It’s kinda hard to believe the Manga and anime are own by 2 different companies. I just want my universes 6 arc already!!!

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

ME TOO. I seriously want that more than I want any other story from universe 7 I can think of!

[@christopherbaker1716]

If they do a universe six arc then they need to change the art style. I cringe whenever I see those lame looking string-bean Saiyans that look like they came out of a crayola coloring book.

[@inferstrike3544]

@@christopherbaker1716 IKR

[@iseehowitis9382]

Stop whining about it already. Go watch something else instead.

[@mdxque8393]

@@christopherbaker1716 God forbid all Saiyans look and act different. 🙄

[@17TRAVIZ]

If they remove those, I swear I'm not watching the show anymore

[@Santzu_]

They are already completely irrelevant to Superhero movie that happens after both of them

[@retrogamesmadeeasy8058]

Ain't no way they will skip 2 entire sagas in the animated series. Moro was amazing. Granolah not so much, but it ended with Frieza coming back.

[@ligerade3536]

Granolah arc was better than Moro arc, but they were both great so I can't fault someone for liking the moro arc more.

[@pal9916]

and frieza coming back is a good thing? that hasnt been done twice already?

[@THEBEARDEDONE82]

@@pal9916definitely not, they need to keep coming up with new villains

[@neverknowsbest.]

I mean the promised Neverland did so....

[@retrogamesmadeeasy8058]

@@neverknowsbest. Did they really? That's crap.

[@ChrisTammaro-qu9mj]

I liked the Moro arc cause it brings Buu back as a somewhat important backstory

[@undeadinside3571]

Same! And the merus thing wasnt too bad. It was cool seeing Vegeta feel remorse about what he did to the namekians, then give everything he had to defend them too

[@ChrisTammaro-qu9mj]

I'm shocked that uub never really got involved in super except the spirit bomb episode he's insanely strong how can they just ignore that

[@undeadinside3571]

@@ChrisTammaro-qu9mj this is somehow still before the end of Z. Not sure how, but it is. Uub should show up soon though i hope. Edit: Uub probably wont show up until the end if super at this rate. I hope they dont ruin him. They said he has god ki now!

[@Dakblasta]

Ya this is before the last 3 or so episodes of z

[@philhenderson3516]

Beerus vs Moro would've been a treat, even if the outcome was predictable. Throwing Black Frieza into the picture (against Moro) would've also spiced things up.

[@mtheory3]

Moro / Granola arc is my favorite arc in DB Super. I really hope they animate the full arc or turn it into a movie or two

[@gengarvenom1180]

They won't turn them into movies.

[@michaelharris4773]

So then we won't see ultra ego 7:48

[@dahbasturd8828]

It’s false it will be in the anime the movie take place after Moro and granola

[@gengarvenom1180]

@@michaelharris4773 Undoubtedly we will see that. Even taking everything he said here into account, they will eventually adapt Moro and Granolah into the anime. The story might be taken in a widely different direction, but no doubt we'll see them. Same for Ultra Ego and True Instinct.

[@newkiller4457]

Granola arc was lowkey trash imho, and ui turned extremely inconsistent in that arc. I was heavily disappointed. The only thing I liked about the granola arc was Goku remembering his parents, and vegetas ultra ego form unfortunately with a bad drawback to the form, and frieza showing up. Imo granola arc was very mid and lackluster.

[@RevoluShane]

Toei should lose the rights to DB Great video

[@parkouremaster]

I always think the reason we don't get Moro and Granolah characters events for any videogame, it's because since they are manga only, adding them may consider as a type of "spoiler", it's more known the story of the anime than in the manga, reason why videogames such xenoverse, took inspiration directly from anime than manga

[@k.r.99]

Makes perfect sense. I also think each character jas his own copyright

[@zero1188]

Always thought because those arcs were trash

[@ULAER]

Exactly. They added the superhero stuff because obviously people went to see the movies if theyre anime fans but many anime fans dont read the manga. If they started talking about ultra ego with no context it would ruin that part of the story. This mans in the vid is just talking out his ass

[@wolfdragox5563]

also tbf most people only watch the anime and dont care about the manga, kinda similar to how most people who watch marvel or DC movies rarely touch or care about the comics, cant really blame them tho since im guilty of that too

[@parkouremaster]

@@ULAER For a reason in the movie we don't get any reference about Ultra ego or anything related to Granolah nor Frieza new form, meanwhile in the manga chapters of the movie, they indeed mention some stuff that happened in the last arc

[@zerohcrows]

I know some people REALLY hate the Moro arc but man I loved every chapter. For me, the Moro arc was the first time reading the dragonball manga as I've just been watching the anime up until that point and its made me really appreciate manga as a whole.

[@treybstuntn1187]

Def hate it get rid of it

[@a1saiyan382]

People hate the moro arc?? 💀

[@bottomtext593]

People hate the moro arc????

[@LJAndrews1986]

Susano Goku was absolute cringe. The only good part about it all was the boys on earth getting some air time and Fat Buus epic moment.

[@Notactiveatalllll]

@@bottomtext593bro it was exactly like the cell arc

[@dragon_of_tacocats447]

The moroe arc was fantastic and I would be upset if they didn’t make a anime out of it

[@jflexy1344]

that also mean they would likely animate the granola arc, and in my opinion it's not worth animating the granola arc especially cause of how they ruined everything my favorite form ui stand for

[@mynameisjoedahand3008]

@@jflexy1344how?

[@marvik7437]

​@@jflexy1344 fuck no granolah needs to be animated yes it aint perfect but ultra ego is littarly the only thing putting vegeta on gokus lv we need a vegeta dub and ultra ego is a really good transformation

[@jflexy1344]

@@mynameisjoedahand3008 well you know how ui separates ones consciousness from the body, allowing the user to fight free of thoughts and emotions in the midst of battle, well now they wanna implement feelings and saiyan instinct into it, making the form loose what made it unique from other super saiyan form, now it's only purpose is for power boost bringing us back to what saiyan have always been doing

[@jflexy1344]

@@marvik7437 you think ultra ego is a good transformation its literally the worst transformation up to date it accomplished nothing in battle, and if you think about it it only serve a reason to give goku more transformation making the whole vegeta is now on par with goku idea meaningless, let's face facts vegeta will always be behind goku cause plot

[@justinlynch3]

I always supported Broly being redone in anime because while that movie was great, you do get the sense that a fair bit may of been cut due to time constraints. So it would be cool to see the full idea for the story in the anime.

[@Dimitri29]

I would prefer if they made kind of a prequel story to the broly movie instead of actually remaking it

[@Mysterythehedgehog]

Yeah, there are obvious cuts in the broly movie. I heard that original run time was around 3 hours before things were cut and edited. One of the most obvious cuts is that when Goku and Vegeta start tag teaming broly, after they power up, righti n the next scene their clothes are absolutely tattered.

[@ElhTil]

@@Mysterythehedgehog yeah a lot of stuff was cut from the movie due to the fact that gogeta vs broly had to be extended because toriyama’s version was way shorter apparently

[@christopherbaker1716]

It'd also be nice for them not to make him an idiot as well. Like, Jesus Christ, what a stupid trope it is to make the strong guy a moron.

[@thomashoughton7392]

No dude that's like 4 months of rehashing shit again, im sick of this shit

[@alexnikolas1991]

R.I.P Toryama Who knows what will happen with Dragonball now? What Toryama gave us was more than enough for a whole lifetime, the only problem being what he gave us was so good we never wanted it to end.

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

So very true 💙

[@joecroft4274]

Feels bad for Toyotaro, his art has finally found some consistency and despite general split of opinion for the last 2 arcs I believe they were really well done and do a lot for the development of Goku and especially Vegeta. The fact he is having to accomodate for Toei doing whatever they want with the property is terrible and probably puts him in a really sticky situation since the anime is a lot more popular than the manga.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

He's not accommodating for toei. Let's be clear he was hired to adapt. If you care about him, have him do his own manga. He's accommodating for Toriyama. Who's work this actually is.

[@xirlio8532]

I don't blame people for liking the anime more, I for one hate the Granolah arc and the Moro arc while not horrible, it's not good either. And I've been with the show since the original Dragon Ball animation. I've started with that in 97.

[@DBZAOTA482]

What development?

[@SkyExplosion]

@@DSan-kl2yc Actually not exactly, Toriyama gives bullet points, but some situations and the majority of the dialogue ia from Toyotarou. Toriyama barely creates any of the dialogue himself maybe like 3 or 4 lines now.

[@connorhind8907]

​@SkyExplosion yes you are correct, but the original point still stands. He is adapting toriyamas work as it is toriyamas property. Toyo has his own influence on the manga but its not his own product

[@The_gaming_gazimon]

Not animating them would be a HUGE mistake

[@selfishbeats]

a huge mistake they won't take. this dude is making dumb point after dumb point. there's no amount of mental gymnastics that can justify not using the content in the manga that was meant to be turned into anime, that's how it works. a couple changes for interests sake but generally the same.

[@Santzu_]

@@selfishbeats The anime never adapted the manga, Superhero happens after everything in the manga and have absolutely nothing to do with the manga arcs and there was no mention of them. Why would they go back to animate stuff that are irrelevent to the current storyline?

[@selfishbeats]

@@Santzu_ dude are you an idiot? it's very relevant because it explains ultra ego , touches on bardock, explains more about namekians.. and new black frieza. But even if it was irrelevant it doesn't matter because it's dragonball content.. that alone makes it worth it's weight in gold.

[@928doxjs]

@@Santzu_ it depends since in the manga, the super hero arc is started and so far there isnt really much difference from how they did it in thr movie

[@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275]

⁠@@928doxjs Santzu’s point still stands, though.

[@pacecory1]

considering what happened with the original super episodes, I see no reason that Toei will not animate Moro and Granolah. they'll certainly put their own spin on it and make it more kid friendly, but I can't see them not animating it should they ever do a super 2

[@treybstuntn1187]

It’s trash get bak to regular super not this dumb crap

[@AshVA1]

Well I'm hoping they release episodes at a ditferent timeslot so they don't have to make it kid friendly, but idk at this point

[@hisradiancelordnasty]

thats would really be best for fans like me who miss the harsh impact frames, detailed battle damage, and nice bits of blood/death animations from z

[@RicardoMartinez-mw2so]

i dont think they will make it kid friendly. it received a lot of negativity, and besides there is a lot of blood in the moro and granolah arcs, so i highly doubt they will skip over the bloody parts.

[@JoseNoSwag]

No , everyone knew that manga wasn’t gonna be canon with the show

[@Madaragun]

Who’s here after the announcement of Dragon ball Baby 👶

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

The Baby arc gonna be wild 🔥

[@itagamineko]

bro i thought this was a joke 💀

[@Madaragun]

@@itagamineko oh it’s true it’s damn true

[@funny-gv3ml]

Nah dragon ball gt at home going to be fire 🔥🔥🔥

[@BooskiD]

@@funny-gv3mlyou prolly think gt was fire smh

[@TrueTimmyturner-kf7jk]

Rip toriyama

[@enebeliifeanyi1789]

The reason ultra ego was not stated in the movie was because they don’t want to spoil things and do people literally forget the interview last year when an animator said he is excited about the anime that will continue super

[@RealityKun]

Bro who cares about spoiling things? If you're a dragon ball fan and you get spoiled for the manga, that's a you problem.

[@zy1an]

​@@RealityKun someone people are strictly anime only so they don't follow the manga dawg

[@RealityKun]

@@zy1an That's their problem, why should everyone else in the whole DB fan base have to go without to accommodate them

[@RealityKun]

@@zy1an Bro, there's not gonna BE another anime for them to follow if they don't suck it up this one time so Toei doesn't use them as an excuse

[@DrJareld]

@@RealityKun Super Hero was written before Ultra Ego was a thing

[@thewulf777]

Most of us can agree that having both of them animated would be stellar, as long as its not as much of a slow burn as GT was. Super has been the introduction to Dragon Ball for most people that I know, it would be a shame if it ended on Super Broly. Not that Super Broly is bad, it was absolutely stellar and we want to see more of him and a continuation of this timeline.

[@sky-oq5mr]

You're crazy as hell for that statement. GT was 70 episodes, it took off pretty fast. Super had 4 empty useless arcs before we got something new. Battle of gods which we already had, revival of Frieza which we already had, water planet shit which was awful and then a got damn baseball arc. Super is what turned all my friends away from dragon ball new and old. Said it doesn't make sense and they leave or it's not the same.

[@BryMakesArt]

Super hero is the last canon entry in the dragon ball series lol

[@sky-oq5mr]

@@BryMakesArt that's not true. Super hero is suppose to be canon to super manga but it disregards it. Super anime, manga and movieverse are all separate. Do your own research instead of reading KZbinrs thumbnails. Super in all it's variations is Non canon to the original Dragonball source material and non canon to the db and Dbz anime.

[@BryMakesArt]

@@sky-oq5mr that’s just your opinion though and I can choose to disagree Which I do. They wouldn’t waste millions of dollars to release a property furthering the timeline of the series and giving characters new forms and motivations only to make sure that it’s not canon

[@Bboysho21]

GT is goated😤😤😤😤

[@stevenfolden9636]

Glad to seeing you popping off

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

Whheeyyy it wouldn’t have been worth it if you hadn’t have stopped by bro!

[@BishopM1]

Thank you for making this video. Subscribed

[@GameshinbunTV]

Mora and Granolah Arc could be good arcs in the animated version, but they need to be different from the manga, like the manga and the anime were different in the tournament of power, for example. The manga arc of goku black was better than the anime version though

[@SonLuffa]

Keep that shit the same no changes

[@yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda]

The Moro arc was perfect Imo

[@GameshinbunTV]

@@yanarygaroutalokoanwakanda Not Susanoo Goku though

[@vogue-ish8638]

@@GameshinbunTV nothing really wrong with that

[@xXdreamon95Xx]

@@GameshinbunTVlmaooo 😭😭 but at least it be something different for once other than spirit bomb n kanehameha findhers

[@gernou92]

If they dont animate at least the Moro arc, I'm gonna be pissed. I've been waiting for it since dragon ball super ended...

[@ArkBlanc]

Such a shame that they can't work together to make the story fit together. I liked the Granolah and Moro arc, they really should adapt it to anime.

[@SnowblastStudios]

I want moro and granolah saga content in xenoverse 2 so bad rn

[@itzadrix6263]

That sucks cuz these two arcs where honestly really good and the fact they added more back stories with the Saiyan's.

[@LegenHarryThing4076]

I think these "Re-Work" would be the safegoat for the mess ui goku ended with.... It will save alot of random stuffs, alongside the bardock part where it confused the balance of how power is scaled in dragonball... Everyone should consider this and never be afraid to accept this changes because it is very interesting 👍 Let's hope for the best cause the worst already happened

[@terrorism7015]

Yea dude bardock scaling to gas was so weird to me, considering earlier scaling of the regular degular saiyans who couldnt even achieve SS

[@LegenHarryThing4076]

@@terrorism7015 that's why I'm pretty open to this kind of idea, cause it's salvageable... And it can save a writer from so many plotholes and the series from turning upside down

[@trashguybob]

Moro arc definitely has a good skeleton (personally I would probably change a majority of things surrounding said skeleton tho), but idk what to do with Granola man that arc is so ass

[@jdrmanmusiqking]

Bruh super has been doing this since day 1... Frieza, Android 17, and especially MASTER FREAKIN ROSHI being relevant in Super already destroys the scaling rules. SSB not absolutely annihilating everyone destroys the old DBZ powerscaling rules Bardock is not even close to being the worse offender

[@enebeliifeanyi1789]

I hope people realize gas was not as strong as freiza during that time why he was working under him

[@AtomicComms]

I have a lot of respect for Toyataro, there's a lot of things he did in the manga that are better than in the anime. Argueably I'd say Moro and Granolah are the best archs in Super (fight me) and NEED to be adapted. The only time his manga stuff was acknowledged outside the anime was in Kakarot that adapted his Trunks VS Buu stuff. Since the anime barely did anything with that.

[@TheTwizted]

No need to fight, the Moro arc is one of the best dragon ball arcs of all time

[@ppnexus2000]

I think the TOP slightly beats out Moro. And Granola is a good third

[@ch4rliegaming]

Granolah sucks

[@imanca8217]

​@@ppnexus2000 i think the manga version of top is bad and really rush.

[@ppnexus2000]

@@imanca8217 it is terribly paced in the Manga, I meant that the anime version is better than both new arcs in the manga, and I doubt an animated version of either would be better than the anime top arc.

[@imkatanaman]

bro granolah is my fav character and ue was absolutely badass, moro was also a really interesting character

[@tuzden]

The Granolah arc was alright in my opinion, but the Moro arc has been my favorite arc in all of Super

[@Flvtchrr]

Best one since goku black

[@thekingbradable]

Moro arc was spectacular. Also my favorite arc

[@SuperPeterok]

Why wasn't Super Broly in either arc??

[@wasifchowdhury2004]

@@SuperPeterok It will probably be retconned when the anime comes out

[@SuperbMoves]

@@Flvtchrr Goku black would have been amazing if the animation held up they. dragon ball heroes used black Goku way better in my opinion lol

[@mohammadmehmood3092]

From what I can gather: - Goku no longer Masters UI. - Vegeta ain't catching up to Goku. - Uub ain't gonna have any relevancy anymore. - Black Freiza never happens - And we won't get any lore about the angels. There are plus sides to this Bardock no longer making his wish, but that could've easily been changed during production. I really hope they do end up animating the arcs but now it seems very unlikely.

[@Sarge327]

Goku still hasn’t mastered UI even in the manga, mastering it would mean he could use it 24/7 in his base form like the angels. Also I could be remembering this wrong but I always see people talking about how Bardock made the wish but from what I can gather he only ever says that’s what he *would* wish for, not that he actually did. I could be misremembering that though.

[@mohammadmehmood3092]

@@Sarge327 yeah the wish thing is a bit iffy but if they don't get animated then none of it happens anyway.

[@UltraInstinctShadow124]

Well I don’t care if the arcs don’t get animated because it would likely mean they aren’t canon

[@JOHN18042]

​@Plusultramario2023, there's anime canon, then there's manga canon so which canon are we talking about

[@UltraInstinctShadow124]

@@JOHN18042 The manga duh...

[@SkyeRedd910]

I'm calling cap cause Black Frieza, Goku's Susanoo, Og 73, Meerus, Granolah, the fight with Gas, Ultra Ego, all as big as Gohan Beast and is arguably more anticipated from the fans than anything else. The anime is taking a huge dub if they skip all that.

[@purpleey]

a huge dub? 😂

[@pantheraatrox4653]

Every single one of them is more interesting than gohan beast

[@yamahakid450f]

I don't think you know what 'dub' means.... cause skipping those arc's the exact opposite of a dub, it's a huge loss and fuck up on their part. Although, we did get beast Gohan, the movie is considered Canon the same way DBS Broly was Canon in the anime timeline.

[@illusma7822]

​@@pantheraatrox4653nope. Only the moro arc is

[@donovangunther4538]

@@pantheraatrox4653 It's not really that hard to write powers more interesting than "nubmer go bigerer" it's just that this is the first time Dragon Ball has ever tried. Though it still is fundamentally flawed as we can't really explore the opportunities within a power system if there isn't one, so DB just kinda comes off as ki doing random shit for no reason

[@BigRig97]

I mean, of course the Moro and Granolah arcs are getting animated since the DBS anime has yet to be announced.

[@tonyscales7]

The problem is one piece. Toei animation is too focused on one piece right now

[@lilmeater4785]

One piece is good I'm waiting for that gear 5th to actually have good animation

[@freeyaw29]

Just look at One Piece artstyle and animation you can see what's toei priority right now 😂

[@Blackatchaproduction]

that shit needs to end already

[@yandelbenitez150]

Toei is married to one piece💀

[@JodaroKujo]

Well then fuck one piece I need more Dragon Ball

[@cameronalston730]

Been thinking maybe the ominous “web series” may be the mora/granola arcs

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

I wondered it at the time of the leaks, but because they said the web series isn’t part of the “super” moniker, I took that to mean it wouldn’t be that

[@gobzdzilla]

It's the new chapter of Super Dragon Ball Heroes. All you anime kids get hyped on overblown expectations, get disappointed and then blame companies who never promised you a thing. What's the point of that?

[@gengarvenom1180]

@@gobzdzilla Even if it is another Super Dragon Ball Heroes, the rumors state that some big name animation directors are heavily involved in the project, so it's still something to be excited about.

[@gobzdzilla]

@@gengarvenom1180 I'll get excited when it comes out of rumour phase, thank you very much. But if they particularly stated animation department then it might actually sound like trying to fix some sins of Super.

[@superdupersomething]

i thought the web series turned out to be toriyama's other work sandland that had a tralier and had episodes already coming out?

[@cuyospartan02]

I think the granola arc can be benefited from the added screen time of an animation and have some rewrites here and there. But the moro arc REALLY deserves to be animated, it had really cool moments and a menacing villain that really posed a threat for the cast for once and also one with interesting techniques, though I wish it had more consequences (and certain character stayed dead so his sacrifice was more meaningful) also added much needed world building for both new and old stuff.

[@Abc123______]

Thought it had something to do with how bloody animating the Moro fight would have been lmao, bones skin and body just disintegrating.

[@AlchemyKirby]

That bones, skins and everything was Granolah arc lol The character was Gas, and yeah, it was disturbing lol

[@reptilian_geneticist]

The main issue here is that the majority of the information about Toriyama working with Toyotaro on the manga is just unsubstantiated information from TOYOTARO himself which only helps to validate his own work......... if everyone knew that Toriyama doesn't really work with Toyotaro on the manga then it would instantly lose all of its credibility.... and im pretty sure that Toei knows

[@ReignofIndepence]

Does it matter? Both arcs are good

[@Flvtchrr]

​@Ghost of the Uchiha maybe, but look at how gt is treated because of lack of toriyama

[@ReignofIndepence]

@@Flvtchrr Both arcs are already more well received. Also if you hadn't noticed GT is gaining popularity lately

[@yourmotherisaseal5239]

do you have ANY proof of this claim

[@reptilian_geneticist]

@@yourmotherisaseal5239 Do YOU have ANY proof that says otherwise? Other than Toyotaro just claiming that Toriyama checks all of his work and yet Toriyama never seems to know whats going on in the manga during interviews 😂... where is Toriyama???? When's the last time anyone even saw him? You know his son Sauske Toriyama actually worked on the movie and was in charge, not Akira Toriyama.... And Toyotaro never says "Akira Toriyama" he just says "Toriyama" I think he's been talking about Sauske Toriyama or just completely lying altogether as he's been told to....

[@1jhonyx]

Honestly... i kinda wish some of the movie characters could be made canon in the series (actual anime) where they introduce them and all, like Cooler, Lord Slug, etc. .... it would be a really interesting concept to even hear the characters bring them up from time to time... i also wish they made a side tv show based on how the combatants of hell are doing while there, how they even try to fight each other, evil buu fighting Frieza or Cell, oh that would be amazing... *sigh* only fans could do that though...

[@Kyle_Broflovski740]

They had a chance to make Bojack unbound canon

[@Flvtchrr]

We need cooler. Hopefully that's who frieza is looking for at the end of granolah ark

[@chainsofgames]

Literally hfil

[@1jhonyx]

@@chainsofgames I mean official, plus, some characters aren't there in hifl, like Demon King Piccolo, Gero, etc.

[@cursedshadow]

buu was reincarnated into uub, hes not in hell. Also most of soul that go to hell get purified + reicarnated at some point, frieza has yet to repent and thats why he was still in hell.

[@garzukathegamer]

I really just want Ultra Ego adapted into the Anime so Vegeta isn’t stuck without an MUI level form and I’ll be contempt

[@fa-mr9xi]

Its not going to get animated 😂😂😂😂 Its cancelled 😂😂

[@MrDeykar]

Ultra ego sucks anyways.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

For what lol. He lost 3 times already with that form. It ain’t going to change anything

[@axmendez1999]

The reason why the anime was completely different from the manga was because there was no manga read for super as the anime was going on. The manga never had time to sprout at all which is sad. I like the mangas version of events tbh i wish the manga got more love. I think toei is more in tune with one piece at the moment tbh

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

The Moro arc was peak for me on par with zamasu but both of the endings are mediocre the Moro arc more.

[@p_rnhub]

Honestly, Moro's arc was kinda boring ngl swear they were pulling things out of their ass

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

@@p_rnhub nah when Moro faught goku and when Moro destroyer everyone it was a bit unpredictable it was like dbz

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

@@etkadu2715 youre an idiot if you think that way.

[@perparimbytyci6953]

@@p_rnhub The entire show from the very first episode/chapter of the OG Dragon Ball was just pulling things out of their ass. Buu saga was the biggest unplanned and asspulled arc, Cell saga too, and basically every arc was full of asspulls that were not planned. If you want good plot, go watch other shows

[@p_rnhub]

@@dark_nightwing_xl2797 not really, we expected goku to lose because that's the entire plot of dbs, Goku always loses the fight and later on beats them out of nowhere.

[@gengarvenom1180]

Yeah, no it's definately going to get animated. They deliberately went out of their way not to step on the toes of the manga when making the movie. It's pretty clear that it will eventually be animated.

[@Sifi999]

fans: “we want more dragon ball super please please pleaseeee” toei: heres GT 2 lmao

[@FracturedDMR]

It's honestly a frustratingly confusing time. I remember hearing the official announcement for DB:Daima and thinking: "So are we just IGNORING the Moro and Granolah arcs? What the fuck??". And to this day what the actual hell is happening escapes me, I don't mind Daima being a thing but some explanation and some kind of roadmap for the fate of Super, and its current Manga-only arcs is not just due but overdue at this point. Somebody needs to start piping up and clear the air on their end.

[@150Hello]

It's funny how the DBZ Anime was an adaptation of the Z manga, but in the case of super the manga, is the adaptation of the DBS Anime/Movie events 😅

[@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275]

The irony

[@ajxx9987]

I believe they can fix some stuff from the manga when they decide to animate the arcs

[@jackbarn8046]

Considering the manga is just now going through the new movie its sad. I really wanted to see goku fight with vegeta against moro. Oh well im a one piece fan now.

[@josephjoestar4628]

We just need to wait

[@Anthonycheesman33]

The anime will come back it’s not a matter of if but when at this point .

[@selfishbeats]

anybody that doesn't think dragonball isn't coming back has an IQ of 75 or less. trying to say moro and granolah won't come back is a sped take.

[@WikiThis]

Yeah, I can't imagine they'd leave such a big franchise out to dry like that. Unless they're going to transition to movies only or something?

[@geoselal]

basically the super movies (battle of the gods, resurrection F, broly and super hero), the dragonball super anime and the manga are 3 different cannons and according to Toriyama only the movies are canon to him (so GOKU ultra instinct is not a thing and that is why it was never mentioned in the movies)

[@ORLY911]

"maybe even do a gt reboot" oh man i hate u were right lmao

[@houndofjustice5]

i better see ultra ego vegeta in anime i swear!!

[@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275]

It would break the internet almost as much as Goku turning MUI did.

[@thxio7226]

@@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275 not really, unless they make the fight interesting like what they did with ui vs kefla

[@BabyGirlTiny]

We already seen vegeta lose. Why would you want to see him lose again in a new form lol

[@BabyGirlTiny]

@@unromanoarecareanaveragero8275not really. People want vegeta to get a win. Not a new form. And because he doesn’t win, then people will just chalk it up to another vegeta L

[@romanramos3236]

Hey man I appreciate your approach to this video. I often feel that Dragon Ball speculation videos often are clickbaity and over energized but this to me was well analyzed with the right energy. Wish u success!

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

Thank you! That means a lot to me 🍻

[@alphonsemaseko321]

You earned a new subscriber

[@Resultsnoexcuse]

It would be a shame if they don’t animate both arcs! I get why some ppl don’t like the granola arc but the Moro arc is easily a top 3 arc personally my favorite

[@VixYW]

Would there be any inconsistences if they just swapped things around? Like, if they animated the manga arcs as if they happened after the movies instead of before? That way they could just move forwards as normal without needing to retell anything.

[@DALEISANIME]

Yeah that doesn’t work at all

[@saygerow]

just like resurrection f and battle of gods if they do animate the moro and granola arcs they will retell the stories of broly and super heroes since if you watch the first 2 dragon ball super movies you will see a good bit of differences between the two and their anime series counterparts

[@nigeluno8896]

Yeah because gohan and piccolo were weaker in the battle and didn't have their new forms.

[@NoneQuestor]

Like what if Granola & moro stories became different if they made it as animated

[@AndyNocturne]

As someone who grew up watching the anime and has never read the manga, I do sincerely hope they change plans and continue the anime with these arcs. I feel like it's only logical to do so. And also, until then, where does a guy even go to read the manga in the first place?!? Because it seems that may be the only way I'll be able to enjoy these great stories :/ I've looked everywhere online to find them in color and in English, but I've had no luck.

[@harperino_]

Best way to read it, for me at least is to find a KZbin video that reads the whole manga for you. That’s what I did and it was alright but if you don’t have time carthus dojo has a great summary of both new arcs

[@AndyNocturne]

@@harperino_ I've considered it. I really like the anime because it does consume more time. If it comes down to it tho, I'll take your advice on that. I appreciate it

[@pinklyfingerer4081]

This anime started in like the early 1990s. I’m suprised 30 years later it’s even still getting new content. People should be happy with that

[@lelouch8470]

If Toei do not animate the Moro and Granolah arc, it’ll be their biggest mistake. They are by far the best arcs in DBS and the Moro arc is easily on the level of the former dragon ball arcs

[@ElMachoGringo47]

I think they will both be great additions eventually but they definitely should both be introduced in the endgame. Moro has an aesthetic of a final boss and they decided to go such a strange route with him. I loved granolahs arc but Bardock definitely didn’t have to be a part of the story

[@wiffmastermase]

Super Hero basically gives Akira only a few months before he closes the gap with Z

[@nikhilpandey2618]

Man.. What a bummer😩

[@TheMeriot1]

They absolutely have to do the prisoner Arc the moro arc is going to be the best animated arc in Dragon Ball history if they do it the right way that battle was insane I couldn't care less about the heaters arc but the moro arc is absolutely necessary to see animated

[@terrorism7015]

Im not a fan of the heeter family either, but i really enjoyed granolah as a character and itd be a massive shame if we didnt see ultra ego animated.

[@TheMeriot1]

@@terrorism7015 sorry. You misunderstand me... Or maybe I misspoke, but I enjoyed the Heeters as a new villain group, but only as just extra content to the dragon ball lore. There appearance however doesn't make or break the series, so I wouldn't go protesting if they didn't animate them is what I meant. On the other hand, I totally agree with you about UE Vegeta... Must see!!! Unfortunately though, I accept Granola in the same way I accept the Heeters, but I don't particularly like him as a character. It's probably because he looks too human... I would've rather got an interesting story based on a race we've already seen, such as a member of Zarbon, Recoom or even Ginyu's people... Maybe even a female of those varieties. Just something that expands upon the lore they've already established, rather them them always one and doning everything. I hate that about toei. As if only one member of those races would be that powerful... Id love it if we seen a member of Zarbons race who discovered a new wicked form or something...

[@TheMeriot1]

@robertothesupermutant830 you're weird... Moro is an absolutely magnificent villain... I hate people like you... Your taste is probably align with how gay super was at first... You probably liked the black arc the most didn't you? Moro feels like true dragon ball, if your brain can't understand how epic this is going to be if it ever gets animated you have very low intellect... 🤦🏾

[@dillonnewfield3313]

Sad times for DB fans

[@Fred_Die]

IT ENDED 5 YEARS AGO?! Wow, thank you for making me feel old 😢

[@dragonballdad]

Enjoyed this

[@elijahbaker781]

I really want them to animate the Moro arc.

[@enzohcp7326]

As I can know It was Toriyama who ordened the retelling of "Battle of Gods" and "Resurrection of F", originally Toei didn't want to do it and they will continue the movies with the "Universe 6 vs 7 arc", so, Who know? Maybe Toriyama want again a version of Broly and Super Hero like hapenned before, having a Movie, anime and manga version But yeah, I don't think so this arc can be animated if Toriyama ordened it, they are like "manga filler" or something like that, but if these arcs are animated, I want the anime still had his original things, like Blue Kaio-ken, Evolved, and even make they version of Ultra Ego like Toppo's Hakaishin Form

[@KRaz03_]

Hearing the top ended in 2018 just hurt my soul 😭😭😭 i dont remember that as so long sgo shit

[@animeguy556]

They can't do this to us man 😭

[@sp4cepigz174]

I think it’s better they don’t. I wouldn’t want to see them butcher that arc. That arc was just really damn good

[@Made_In_Heaven88]

They should just make both a Moro and Granolah movie and bring back a final season after that, it's definitely nearing the end of Z now with Goten and Trunks now older

[@tobygarton6444]

Also I love that ending music bro that's awesome takes me back to being 13 years old playing ultimate battle 22 on my playstation. I remember getting it japanese and had to use a device to play it on an American console. I think it gogetas them or ss3 Goku's theme in that game.

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

YES! Ultimate Battle 22 used an instrumental and slightly sped up version of Mind Power Ki for SS3 Goku :)

[@AngryDeluxe]

As fans we need to make our voices heard to get what we want, and as a community almost none are bigger than Dragon Balls.

[@piggygaming3455]

Nothings bigger than dragons balls

[@TonyMishima92]

*@Kanji Needs Coffee* SSJB Vegito is actually *Toyotaro's* idea. Even though it was in the anime first, Toyotaro said in the *_"Tori-Toyo Free Talk Vol. 2"_* interview that adding Vegito to the story was his idea behind the scenes.

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

Oh that’s really cool! I had no idea, I must’ve missed that! Thanks for letting me know

[@TonyMishima92]

@@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee No problem, and great video. This is the first I've seen of you and I like your perspective on the anime's issue.

[@WKKanjiNeedsCoffee]

Thank you! That means a lot to me, I appreciated you sharing the information in such a friendly manner too, so many people just look for fights these days in unreasonable ways 😂

[@theauditor3224]

Both arcs were great tho. They deserve to be animated

[@geokashi357]

yeah if db comes back they will definitely animate them this guy does not make any good points

[@NicolasDWolfwood1]

would love to see these get animated toei animation has improved massively

[@saygerow]

i believe theres a good chance the anime is going continue by looking at the events before dragon ball super was even animated they did two movies off the series then came dragon ball super the anime, now that the tournament of power has been concluded and they have made two more movies past that point if they follow suit like when super first got animated then everything is in line for a return of the anime

[@ceazardagreat9152]

Facts I totally agree 💯 percent

[@odd-eyes6363]

It's a shame. The Moro Arc was amazing and Goku's escape from Gas is probably one of the funniest sequences in all of DragonBall. I would have loved to see these arcs animated

[@Hunter_Brandon]

I’d honestly rather have Team Four Star abridge the Buu saga than receive any new DB content.

[@TheMeriot1]

Please don't say that we don't need any bad luck we want the animated however I would like to see the Buu saga abridged as well

[@ayoitzslayer]

Said no one ever. No one cares about some abridged version of some shit thats been out for 30 years already. Time for some new shit

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

L

[@Hunter_Brandon]

@@Lowclasswarrior778 😚

[@jeannesery9936]

​@@Lowclasswarrior778nah let him cook

[@mdbsonic5772]

This feels like a masterclass in miscommunication.

[@jamesholt3636]

Lets hope you're wrong. I love watching the animation and I was fully waiting/expecting the animations for these arcs to arrive eventually.

[@entertainmentgaming8738]

They won't animate something new but they'll cut the movies into 8 episodes a piece and pretend its new. Super is a massive fail

[@bread2497]

I hope that other characters from the movies such as Cooler, Tapion, Janemba, Bojack, etc., get introduced back, too. They have a lot of characters that they could use in the future and seeing them return would be a treat. Maybe even ssj4, but that one seems to be very unlikely. I absolutely loved both the Moro and Granola arc. However, if the anime adaptation is rushed and cut short (like what happened in the re-telling of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F) then I would much rather have the two arcs stay as manga only.

[@ghoulchan7525]

Cooler not so much. he's largely a rehash of Freeza. Tapion, yes Bring him back. Janemba and Bojack i can't really judge on since i haven't seen those movies. but Bojack would need to be completely altered to fit in the current time frame from what i do know.

[@TheJungaBoon]

@@ghoulchan7525 They kinda did Bojack in the Granolah arc with the oil gang

[@NrettG]

@@TheJungaBoon I was just about to mention that. The "Bojack" in Granolah was really well done and ended there as well since theirs not much you can do with him unlike Broly. Tapion could literally just show up and fit right in and Janemba would probably be saved for another film. I could see Janemba ethier being found in another universe that becomes a massive threat to everyone or a side story that freeza found randomly and decided to beat the shit out of it for a while in his training.

[@gamercentral2417]

Janemba and MAYBE cooler are the only ones who have a chance At this point due to the TOP power creep is so bad that bojack or tapion could not exist without artificial boosters

[@bread2497]

@@gamercentral2417 That is unfortunately true, and I agree that the power creep is a big issue as well. It's very likely that they won't be brought back. It was more of me hoping that they would bring back some of the movie characters because of what they included for the Broly movie.

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

It'll be interesting to see what they end up doing

[@FlamaSeb]

damn man i legit remember episode 131 like it released yesterday , in college now smh

[@RsChrisG]

If the creators of DB were smart they'd let TFS create a LICENSED abridged series of the Buu saga. Now that'd be epic.

[@Santzu_]

The biggest studio in Japan doesn't care about an American youtube parody series

[@RsChrisG]

@@Santzu_ Yes we all are aware of how out of touch media companies are in that region of the world, you don't have to point it out.

[@geokashi357]

@@RsChrisG man you tfs fans need to stop only amerigays like that disgrace most bad takes of db community exist bc of them

[@Fikret_Çelik]

If the anime skip Moro and Granola to make a comeback with the Black Freeza saga, than I'm ok with that.

[@TheyWantMeGone69]

Mixed reactions or not I want to see how it plays out in Anime form. It feels inevitable; Toei will cave in at some point from fan requests.

[@TheoneStanband]

I'm still gonna wait for the rest of the manga to be animated

[@grahf4215]

There has been a "respected members of the community" that has been saying that Super was coming back in a few months all the way back when it first ended in Japan. They doubled down, tripled down and more only for them to then finally backpedal and claim that them speaking of it was why it hasn't come out yet. But don't worry, it's still coming and was only pushed back a few months at most because they (the actual people in charge and in the know) were so mad that such a "prominent and respected member of the community" said something about it coming out. That they, an "insider in the industry", shouldn't have spoken about their "inside knowledge" of the situation. I don't know how I feel one way or the other about them maybe skipping these two arcs. I like them I guess but really couldn't care less about the situation as a whole.

[@cidlunius1076]

You'd think that Toei would see that Toriyama is raising a disciple and support them. If this is the case though, I guess I'm only supporting future movies and the manga.

[@stumpytheviolator3118]

But silly they are doing this, Toriyama got them to put the anime in a hiatus because he was trying to figure out a story direction to push in. Afterall he did state how the franchise would end. I was absolutely disappointed when Toriyama turned around and said Super will get the first canon movie, it will delve into the legend, 3 months after that the anime side said nah heres Broly again. I reckon because the animators went with Broly, Toriyama is a bit mad at them, because he promised to reveal the actual Saiyan legend. So he must have felt like he cheated his fanbase. They can't animate without his go ahead, all he has to do is hold the licensing. There is more going on than what we have been told, all we can do is speculate. I don't think Toriyama wants to publicly state that one of the largest animations studios and one of the largest manga writers is having a massive dispute. Too much to lose, not enough to gain to take the argument public.

[@mr.goatgeta]

Bro. For a second, I thought that the title said “Changed”.

[@brub1738]

Shame because I think Moro and granolah are some of the best stuff to come out of the manga I think I should specify when I say manga I mean in terms of super not in terms of the series as a whole

[@LordJesusDiedforUs]

Trash

[@reptilian_geneticist]

😂😂😂 ahhh man that's funny... The Morro and Granola arcs are easily two of the worst arcs in All of DRAGONBALL...

[@lawrencemalone1900]

Granola is very meh at best and Moro is amazing indeed. I wanna see Merus

[@brub1738]

@@reptilian_geneticist idk bro I liked them granolah not as much but Moro was pretty fire imo

[@reptilian_geneticist]

@@lawrencemalone1900 Morro just sucks... his old man goat concept was cool at first but the instant he turned into Morro 73 it was just a Cell saga ripoff and everything in that arc was just unoriginal fan service bullshit... same thing with the Granola arc... Granola is literally Baby Vegeta from GT, same exact backstory and motives and everything lol

[@Omega-AlexGt]

If they skip moro and granolah arc I'm done with the anime xd

[@MelloTheMoon]

I would be nice to get the manga characters in video games. One of the reasons why I think we don't (brand new characters that is) is because they're attacks haven't been animated so it's harder to create their attacks and combos ?

[@thxio7226]

simply because of spoilers, as majority of anime fanbase are anime watchers and not manga readers, similarly go to dragon ball fans

[@Therock007dmx]

I haven’t read the Manga I only watch the anime so are the Granola/ Moro arks good? I was hoping that they would be turned into anime movies or series like the Tournament of Power.

[@federicopalacios7439]

Both are pretty bad, they start decent, but end up being awful. Toyotaro can't write a story to save his life.

[@IMADEYOUREAD]

​@federicopalacios7439 My inner brain:It's Just Your opinion Don't freak out

[@swerve_viper]

when on piece ends dragon ball will be at its strongest cuz they no longer have to focus on one piece

[@geokashi357]

One piss is not ending anytime soon

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

Mid piece