Short version: She’s not void because she literally says as much. “That part of you, that crucial emptiness, I do not share.” It doesn’t MATTER what she IS, she outright states she isn’t Void.
@b2modby5 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION: She might just be speaking about the lack of emotions/thoughts/personality vessels had. We do not know that "crucial emptiness" is 100% her reffering to void. Thats why Moss says that this line is used by the supporters of both theories. But yeah, she's probably isnt void. **Probably**.
@Rainbowgamergirl034 жыл бұрын
Draculinary cursed pfp
@henrythewhaleman60334 жыл бұрын
She says it but when the void brothers and her help keep the radience in place so you can slap it she gives a void like shape when she helps to hold it down
@milk_choc78894 жыл бұрын
@@henrythewhaleman6033 no, that's the Hollow Knight. You can see the inner part of the head is different. They also have a cracked head and only one arm, just like the Hollow Knight.
@K-7Maylis4 жыл бұрын
She can't be void because she's never been infused with it, the vessels are infused but Hornet was never, she was just sent to Herrah etc.
@bowserjjumetroid36455 жыл бұрын
--- *AFTER SILKSONG GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE* --- *Hornet doesn't give off a Shade when she dies.* *More evidence that Hornet isn't made of Void.*
@pyroball6025 жыл бұрын
Collector doesn't have a shade if you think on it hard enough... thonk
@bowserjjumetroid36455 жыл бұрын
@@pyroball602 .... It can't leave a Shade cause it's just Void. As far as we know, only Vessels, the hollowed out children of the Pale King and White Lady, leave shades behind. Have we seen *anyone* or *anything* else give off a shade? There's *us* (The Knight), the Hollow Knight, and *our* Siblings (I say "us" and "our" 'cause that's who *we* play as). It's possible that the Collector *IS* a Shade, meaning that when we kill him, there's nothing else that can happen; he's *dead.* (BTW, if you use Godhome as an excuse to think he *isn't* dead, well... Godhome's a *Dream realm* where the Godseekers focus on Gods (powerful beings) to imagine them as they were before you killed them, or when they were in their prime; in reality, they still *are* dead. Just in case, ya know.) Regardless, it seems to me that you might be trying to stretch for any evidence that points towards Hornet being made of Void, when there's a big, fat and wide carpet-bombing's worth of evidence that challenges the idea. There isn't enough evidence to convince me *(at least)* that Hornet is made of Void. I could be wrong about you, but it just seems that way. Either way.... *thonk.*
@DarkNexus5305 жыл бұрын
@@pyroball602 So does the Kingsmoulds and Wingmoulds. The Collector is just void creature. It is not a vessel. It does not have a Pale Shell so why would it leave a shade?
@yuuri_5 жыл бұрын
this is evidence that hornet is made of screen transitions
@bowserjjumetroid36455 жыл бұрын
@@yuuri_ AH!! Never thought of that! *Genius!!*
@hermitcard44945 жыл бұрын
Hornet: _"I won't be joining you in this. That space is built to sustain _*_your likes_*_ . Its bindings would drain me were I to join."_
@phoe96295 жыл бұрын
Hornet actually enter there and survived after the Radiance fight
@noahsmith49805 жыл бұрын
@@phoe9629 it says sustain not visit
@hermitcard44945 жыл бұрын
@@phoe9629 she didn't say "it would kill me", she said "would drain me". Meaning that it would weaken her making her useless to fight. She didn't fight, she just waited for Hollow Kid to weaken Hollow Knight enough. Only the likes of Hollow Knights were not drained.
@phoe96295 жыл бұрын
@@hermitcard4494 Hm... You're right, I've interpreted it like she would die, my bad
@nucleardrift9525 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Gutierrez these whole comments are cursed
@archibaldwilliamsworthiii58803 жыл бұрын
When you attack infected creatures with your nail, there’s an orange particle effect. When you attack void creatures with your nail (or when the Knight itself takes damage), there’s a black particle effect. When you attack normal, non-infected bugs, there’s a white particle effect. When you attack Hornet, there’s a white particle effect.
@Barakon3 жыл бұрын
Don’t you get soul from her too?
@MasterIsabelle3 жыл бұрын
@@Barakon yep
@letendreelliott87783 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the pure vessel give white particle too?
@MasterIsabelle3 жыл бұрын
@@letendreelliott8778 wait what
@whirl36902 жыл бұрын
@@letendreelliott8778 The Pure Vessel (as well as the Hollow Knight and the Broken Vessel) has a shell. The Collector does not. You are not striking the void inside of the Pure Vessel, you are striking the shell surrounding it.
@bapanada5 жыл бұрын
a vessel is a vessel, you can't say it's only half
@morgankasper52275 жыл бұрын
but half a presses exist
@jumnyum4 жыл бұрын
Well, TJ “bapanada” Yoshi...
@brickwallandco.91214 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite comment ever.
@bramble63674 жыл бұрын
To answer that we need to talk about parallel partners
@smocloud4 жыл бұрын
You can say that something that is a vessel has also another function not related to its function as a vessel, so, your point is somewhat dulled.
@Jevix-xl1tx4 жыл бұрын
Hornet is made out of a good character.
@nkyfong4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Myla, The White lady, Vespa and Marissa.
@spyguy40964 жыл бұрын
Preach
@patom34744 жыл бұрын
I just have to say :''yes''
@cloudyaxolotls4 жыл бұрын
@@BlueMaskGuy don't forget my girl Seer
@carson94044 жыл бұрын
She is made of S c r e e n transtitions
@jnoinm5 жыл бұрын
What I was supposed to learn: Hornet isn't made of Void What I actually learned: So basically, the Pale King is a hooker
@hugod3274 жыл бұрын
Get a load of this dude
@diamondmetal30624 жыл бұрын
Any good God-King must be. Just ask Zeus and Odin.
@mathiaskaario59734 жыл бұрын
also mossbag is a flat earther
@milk_choc78894 жыл бұрын
@@mathiaskaario5973 r/woooosh
@milk_choc78894 жыл бұрын
@@diamondmetal3062 hey that's rude to ra
@SquareFoil313622 жыл бұрын
Reasons Hornet isn't void: she tells you she isn't void
@hannibustoogfyrre60744 жыл бұрын
Maybe my favorite way to look at Hollow Knight is as a story of 3 children trying to fix the mistakes of their father.
@bread94844 жыл бұрын
No u
@ericatchrist4 жыл бұрын
True.
@jpcraft33324 жыл бұрын
Getting some Karamazov vibes
@RainiiDay74 жыл бұрын
Yup I see the same honestly
@Apotheosister4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the classic tropes of video games, ascending to godhood with the boys, boomers bad millennials good and mute idiot kills everyone.
@drozdzuwa66695 жыл бұрын
I mean hornet can actually speak, and in birthplace we found out that vessels has "no voice to cry suffering", so that's best proof that hornet is not the vessel born of void.
@jonathan93044 жыл бұрын
I think it says that because the truly hollow vessel would not have a voice at all but I could be wrong
@reeseelia23574 жыл бұрын
The collector is a void being and can laugh and make noises, so I don't think that matters. But hornet isn't void.
@lepoisson-globe5923 жыл бұрын
@@jonathan9304 it should have no thoughts so why would it speak
@magis12343 жыл бұрын
@@reeseelia2357 I think the collector has a voice because it's not a vessel
@agzzradface31133 жыл бұрын
@@magis1234 well no shit mate!
@poyo14155 жыл бұрын
*"Today, I'm going to prove to all of you that you're absolutely f**king wrong."* *Isaac Newton talking to the other scientists.*
@theultimatep1e404 жыл бұрын
Ya
@themariokid23104 жыл бұрын
@@theultimatep1e40 ya
@MonkiEatBanana4 жыл бұрын
@The Mario Kid ya
@lemon.98314 жыл бұрын
Monki Eat Banana ya
@sadface74634 жыл бұрын
Ÿä
@HollowTheCool2 жыл бұрын
0:18 Its crazy to think that 4 years ago, 60% of the Hollow Knight community was so uneducated on the lore of Hornet
@MMeltingButter Жыл бұрын
february 6, 2023 there are still people who think hornet is void and it makes me cry.
@randomshipper-pe6br Жыл бұрын
Such Simmons,
@lukas0419-ur2zm6 ай бұрын
May 2024, people still think somehow that's she's void...
@lfestevao6 жыл бұрын
In the true ending, Hornet is unconscious in the ground and the void filling the black egg goes back underground, leaving her there. The shades disappear. So, there's that.
@kikones346 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I thought this was clear evidence that she's not void. I don't know why it wasn't included in the video...
@MiltonRosso6 жыл бұрын
how come the knight is still with hornet?
@lfestevao6 жыл бұрын
@@MiltonRosso He's not. The true ending is defeating the Radiance in the Black Egg. In this one all void goes underground. You must be thinking of the extra ending added on the Gods and Glory dlc. In this one, someone steps towards Hornet waiting at the door, possibly the Hollow Knight free from the Radiance's influence.
@dodge24516 жыл бұрын
have not watched the video yet, but this is my thoughts also. Its clear she is not part of the void, as all the void returned.
@michaeltsagaris15 жыл бұрын
You could argue that since she is an independent creature, the formless void receding wouldnt effect her. Though that is reaching.
@emeralddarkness4 жыл бұрын
"The only defective vessel is the hollow knight" excuse me several thousand siblings would like to talk to you
@W.H.V.4 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares about them; they're dead.
@DoubleBoost234 жыл бұрын
@@W.H.V. Fanart of them being alive: _Am I a joke to you?_
@DoubleBoost234 жыл бұрын
@TooLateToTheStory Where are those adult Vessels? I must see the grown up forms.
@ziimulhah32234 жыл бұрын
Is there any such thing as a true empty Vessel? Even The Knight's side quests required it to have empathy and free will.
@theultimatep1e404 жыл бұрын
@@W.H.V. ya
@Outpost38C5 жыл бұрын
"there is no santa claus, there is no tooth fairy, and _there is no queen of england"_ -mossbag
@cyanide1674 жыл бұрын
Great megamind quote
@ordinaryshiba4 жыл бұрын
but there are tooth fairies and santa clause exists, but he went too far with the earth point
@jaguarattack2734 жыл бұрын
Mossbag also messed up the quote it is actually “there is no Easter bunny there is no tooth fairy and there is no queen of England”
@QuestionableObject4 жыл бұрын
Santa is not real and Jesus did not happen!
@GerardofRivia4 жыл бұрын
"there is no santa claus, there is no tooth fairy, and there is no void in Hornet"
@unnamedvisitor16494 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that Hornet is comprised of two completely different species, and neither of them have stingers.
@milk_choc78894 жыл бұрын
Her needle's because of an old concept, the child of three queens. Birthed by Herrah, raised by WL, trained by Vespa.
@HYDROCARBON_XD2 жыл бұрын
Pale king it’s like a god,so I think it’s possible
@wta1518 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, It is kind of annoying that a spider-wyrm hybrid is called "Hornet".
@wta1518 Жыл бұрын
@agent8395 That's not canon.
@the_best_username9 ай бұрын
@@milk_choc7889 Would that make her the heir to all three kingdoms?
@somnolentSlumber6 жыл бұрын
>no mouth = related to pale king >the instant you said that, there was a picture of quirrel to the left, who also does not have a mouth actually there are a shit ton of mouthless characters now that i think about it
@zememerr23296 жыл бұрын
somnolent Slumber Their mouth is under their mask, it’s pretty simple really.
@goosemanVEVO6 жыл бұрын
@@zememerr2329 Hmm. But it gets difficult to tell who's wearing a mask, and who's face just looks like that.
@Paradox10126 жыл бұрын
Sir Sleepy this is probably why the mask makers diolouge exists.
@lfestevao6 жыл бұрын
Hazzah!
@robonerd1256 жыл бұрын
Sir Sleepy, i have the same complaint of My Hero Academia...
@YARGGG_GG6 жыл бұрын
a hornet video without a 'git gud' joke? that is some restraint
@purpleglamour90896 жыл бұрын
Lol the urge is strong
@shmarfle476 жыл бұрын
Sweet Pebbles I always heard “Get through” instead of git gud
@guillermoc77365 жыл бұрын
@@shmarfle47 that would actually make more sense, as in, get through the boundaries between the physical world and the dream world
@sanderhagen5715 жыл бұрын
@@shmarfle47 i always thought she Said/yelled "Desu!" Instead of "get through" or "get good"
@electrum55795 жыл бұрын
Instead of taking the easy way and killing the Hollow Knight, Hornet says to git gud and fight Radiance
@bundleoffuck29865 жыл бұрын
Women: exist Pale King: _its free real estate_
@Kyokowai5 жыл бұрын
He be gross.
@user-uz6ft1or3g5 жыл бұрын
@@TimothyMark7 what in the actual fukien tea tree is wrong with you
@fugo54644 жыл бұрын
Guest Guest uhmmmmmmm... ok.
@FiendEnder4 жыл бұрын
Guest Guest *just like they all say, a g e i s j u s t a n u m b e r*
@fugo54644 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Tu_Padre.2 жыл бұрын
This can literally all be solved by just remembering the fact that after you leave the abyss for the first time, she literally outright tells you she isn’t made of void.
@crydeplosion7098 Жыл бұрын
I am currently beating the game and I spent 5 minutes looking for this comment, some people are just too busy mashing the A button lmao
@bumbruh6 жыл бұрын
hornet is actually made of mcdonalds hamburger meat
@uhacharly816 жыл бұрын
bumbruh your woke
@locolorenz6 жыл бұрын
Borgar
@zeroSephiroth16 жыл бұрын
you mean... pink slime?
@thespoonman42086 жыл бұрын
So she is made of void
@bilbeman41255 жыл бұрын
I see you are also a man of culture.
@moonbreak82564 жыл бұрын
I know this is a bit off-topic, but thank you so much for putting actual written captions into your video! I'm hard of hearing (poked out my eardrum with a q-tip, long story), and this really helps me watch more videos of things I love! It's really hard to find good closed captions on youtube with the bigger KZbinrs, so I'm really glad that at least videos about a game I love have them. So thanks!
@mossbag694 жыл бұрын
No problem! It's actually really easy if you have a script. KZbin will automatically line up all the timings for you. It really bugs me to see so many scripted videos from big KZbinrs who don't bother to take that little effort to add captions.
@BlazeTaleo6 жыл бұрын
Oh shit this is my third time watching this video and I just realized that’s my comment featured at 1:02 I’m honored
@asrieldreemurr19884 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I bow down to your brilliance 🙇
@asrieldreemurr19884 жыл бұрын
Oops I though you were the 0:57 one
@sirfedrick4 жыл бұрын
Congratz
@Drizzile4 жыл бұрын
that's racist
@Kasmodamous4 жыл бұрын
congrats
@dionjayce57604 жыл бұрын
so what you're saying is.. the pale king is a hentai protagonist?
@yashobantadash64623 жыл бұрын
Yeah and he got the school days ending
@bluevines13033 жыл бұрын
really thats wahat you drew from this
@Zyp1c3 жыл бұрын
@@bluevines1303 its true tho
@bluevines13033 жыл бұрын
@@Zyp1c THATS WHAT YOU DREW FROM THIS
@tryggverunberg29832 жыл бұрын
@@bluevines1303 it's a logical conclusion, isn't it?
@danny_douglas6 жыл бұрын
Next Video: *ZOTE IS DEATH (CONFIRMED)!?!?!?*
@hoker-5196 жыл бұрын
Danny Douglas When you die, you see someone in a dark cloak wielding a scythe. It’s him. Zote the mighty. But he’s not here to crush you, instead, he is here to take you somewhere. Zote laughs about how foolish you were to be decapitated by a young and incompetent mantis petra. Zote then takes you to the void. Zote takes many others to the afterlife as well. Zote is death.
@thegrimmestpeace6 жыл бұрын
Zote is *ACTUALLY* the Pale King.
@MiltonRosso6 жыл бұрын
he should make a video about the pale king, if he is dead or not
@edk34926 жыл бұрын
Flamefire17 i want zote to crush me
@dogo5236 жыл бұрын
Now i doubt he can explain eternal ordeal to be honest
@troncho13856 жыл бұрын
Hey hey do you think gorb is a godseeker? I mean he makes noises similar to praying also he has a similar anatomy to the godseeker and doesn’t stops talking about ascending.
@subhanmahmood65806 жыл бұрын
HRRMMMMMM I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN JUST HOW POWERFUL GORB WAS
@grantlarsen87616 жыл бұрын
I thought about that as well, maybe he is, maybe he's not, who knows?
@Supershadow3016 жыл бұрын
Dear god, you're right.
@ASquared5446 жыл бұрын
Plus, he's in the howling cliffs, the place that the Godseeker's entered
@troncho13856 жыл бұрын
ASquared I thought the same
@hollow12796 жыл бұрын
let's *a-void* doing assumptions like that
@valjester83426 жыл бұрын
* pain *
@bltsevdallarfanclub6416 жыл бұрын
That hurted more than path of pain.
@juliascythe6 жыл бұрын
lets fuck off
@horesfan4006 жыл бұрын
That’s it. You’re getting the skyscraper sized needle.
@hollow12796 жыл бұрын
Minrod Vils theres no *need-dle* to recurre to violence
@heckrum4 жыл бұрын
pale king, describing vessels: no voice to cry suffering hornet: **can talk** *sO oBvIoUsLy ShEs A sIbLiNg*
@lugoorstar3 жыл бұрын
But what if they're half siblings who one is a zombie and the other is a spider lady?. This and more at 6:30 PM tomorrow
@captainblue50963 жыл бұрын
@@lugoorstar Half siblings? We’re going into some semantics here, and I’m not in for it. Is half a sibling a full sibling? How do you make a full sibling in the first place, more importantly a half sibling? Do quarter siblings exist?
@alba21623 жыл бұрын
@@captainblue5096 a half sibling is someone who shares one parent so to others who share the same set of parents a half sibling is a full sibling You make a full sibling by having more than one child so they can call eachother siblings, then you make a half sibling by having a child who shares only one sibling Only if you have a child with 4 parents
@damobeck12 жыл бұрын
@@captainblue5096 … you… didn’t know half siblings existed? Must be nice *cries in only half siblings*
@captainblue50962 жыл бұрын
@@damobeck1 1: I’m an only child 2: I wrote this very late at night and somehow forgot that half siblings existed
@hollowarcane4 жыл бұрын
I knew Hornet wasn't a vessel just because she can talk
@captainblue50963 жыл бұрын
“No voice to cry suffering” It’s so obvious Even the Pure Vessel doesn’t cry out when the fight starts. It’s completely silent
@MasterIsabelle3 жыл бұрын
@No YeLLInG On THE BuS apparently vessels were forced to not have a voice whether they think or not
@lukaerd62583 жыл бұрын
@No YeLLInG On THE BuS the only vessels, with a voice are the broken vessel at the ancient basin and the hollow knight, but those ones are corrupted by the radiance and even sounds like her. but when you fight the hollow knight as the pure vessel, it screams but has no voice, you only hear the wind blowing. So no, vessels don't have voices.
@cuboembaralhado82942 жыл бұрын
Hornet: *speaks* Everyone here: see? No void!
@ziwuri Жыл бұрын
@@lukaerd6258 I love all the attention to detail in this game. Pure Vessel isn't just "the final boss but harder". It has actual lore implications and its attacks change based on the fact that it's not corrupted by the infection but is more in control of its body and soul abilities.
@Xalted1186 жыл бұрын
All I got out of this is that the Pale King was a gigolo.
@TheActualAqua4 жыл бұрын
Saying that earth is void is the same to say that hornet is flat Wait...
@ziyair29984 жыл бұрын
unlike herrah, hornet is not T H I C C C Q U E
@BlueMaskGuy4 жыл бұрын
Quorine Hornet’s like the opposite of thicc lmao
@ManuMOV4 жыл бұрын
@@AxolBedwars SHES THIN NOT THICK
@shmel36894 жыл бұрын
@@AxolBedwars she's the opposite of thick *and that's great* :]
@thermophile16953 жыл бұрын
"I'm not flat!" -Hornet and earth-chan in unison
@HunterOfSouls218 Жыл бұрын
Hey man! Not sure if you remember me all that well but I used to attend church with ya a while back and I was that little kid at youth group that was always annoying you guys🫣my dad ran into you the other day and told me that you had a channel and here we are. Just wanted to say I’m so unbelievably happy that you’re getting this kind of recognition for your content. You deserve every single view you get man!! Hope all is well and you continue to succeed 🤘🏼💙
@mossbag69 Жыл бұрын
I remember you! I was just talking to my mom 5 minutes ago. She said she told your dad my youtuber name. Thanks! It's been a lot of fun running this channel, and it's been incredible seeing how far it has come over the years. Hope you are doing good as well!
@krist7650 Жыл бұрын
@@mossbag69 damn, we're having mossbag lore now??
@kidlink4OoT6 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only way to figure out if Hornet is void or not is to have her die in the DLC and learn if she drops a spirit like the Knight does.
@LongNguyen-pv9sm6 жыл бұрын
this is actually solid evidence
@Swarming-Languendo6 жыл бұрын
and now we wait
@HunterLAcka6 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck you are right
@jamespaulin67396 жыл бұрын
I thought my Grimmchild ate you!
@pelieskola57086 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And now we wait... i am too hyped for it tbh. Especially aftet the ending of godmaster.
@pigcatapult5 жыл бұрын
Re: Defective vessels: I mean, I'd assume that all of the thousands-to-billions of dead Vessels were deemed defective. Just because the White Lady claims our player character is a perfect vessel doesn't make it true. The Hollow Knight was imperfect because they had enough thought in them to worry; they look back at you in that cutscene, the Pure Vessel has hidden thoughts buried in the code, representing how much those thoughts ("DON'T THINK") were repressed. Our player character proves they're not truly empty by the myriad of things they can do that have nothing to do with sealing the Radiance, like giving Elderbug a flower. There's no reason to do that except feelings of compassion and gratitude, but the player character can do it. A perfectly empty vessel doesn't exist. The Pale King sacrificed untold hordes of his own children on a fool's errand, and the Hollow Knight's desire to protect the bugs of Hallownest was exactly the reason they couldn't.
@masonjones77775 жыл бұрын
the opposite might also be true, the reason "ghost" does those things could be A: the bug it's helping could reward it in a way that further benefits the main goal (like giving a mask shard so it can more easily avoid death) B: it may lead "ghost" to an area that further benefits the main goal, and C: the task may grant it an ally that would help in accomplishing the main goal the only important thing is weather or not "ghost" has an Ideal or feeling driving it. A good counterpoint is moments like when "ghost" sits next to quirrel before he either leaves or dies or something (not sure what actually happens) or when it strikes down the nailsmith as per request (purely optional but it CAN happen so I guess it's half-cannon) since either side could give their own interpretation every one of "ghosts" possible actions I think it's safe to assume that we don't know if this games player character is a truly "perfect vessel" or not and we might as well flip a coin for all it matters.
@cattheplayergamplay82624 жыл бұрын
confirming that the pale king is indeed a fucking idiot
@CappsLocke4 жыл бұрын
The hollow knight was a perfect vessel until the king bonded with him as shown in the path of pain cutscene so in reality the king finally found his perfect vessel until he fucked it up. The bonding gave the infection something to corrupt and allowing it to seep out. But case and point, the perfect vessel does exist the king just kept ruining it
@cyryl38274 жыл бұрын
When you beat the Hollow Knight the normal way, you just stave off the corruption. You will lose to it as well, at some point. The only reason the Hollow Knight lost in the end, is because he didn't have the King Soul charm, and didn't gain a greater control over the Void. Pale King failed, because he wasn't brave enough, to grant the Vessel god-like power. He thought, that just some sprinkling of Void would have been enough.
@TRak5984 жыл бұрын
@@cyryl3827 I'm more inclined to believe that the Pale King could not understand the Void and foresee its doings (most likely because the Void is older than time, stronger than anything and eldritch in nature, so his powers of future telling could not reach it), so even after foreseeing the future of doom on the kingdom he would erect, he still believes it could be saved with the use of the Void. Remember how empty the palace felt? The King did not have to study most things because he could both tell the future and remember from his vast memories of the world. The Void, however, was out of his reach, unless he decided to learn about it by experiments. And that's why he had a workshop on the Acient Basin. In other words, it's not that he distrusts the Vessels and give HK too little power, he just can't figure out how to tap the power of The Abyss anymore. Honestly speaking, HK was more than enough to keep Radiance sealed for a long time, but its gradual gain of personality would eventually make it both unable to contain the infection and less adequate of a vessel (void needs emptiness, and that's why HK has no void attacks after being infected). Such is his disappointment when his plans are ruined that he assumes the kingdom has no chance of ever recovering, and all his personal sacrifices along with the ones did by his subjects were put to waste. A promise of an eternal kingdom just to throw everything he got and fail at last? Shame and sorrow no one can bear. If HK was simply not given the strenght he needed, PK would for sure try to correct his mistake. Instead, PK just gave up, most likely because he had already exausted his tools, or at least so he tought.
@deadlydingus11386 жыл бұрын
Powerful Arthropod Loves Everyone
@brandonmartineau45916 жыл бұрын
Wait... *re-reads* -_- o_o 0_0
@madcap34505 жыл бұрын
This guy fucks
@sandokangianfigliazzi18455 жыл бұрын
@@madcap3450,giant spiders and trees
@MenacingHollow5 жыл бұрын
Kinky Ineffective Notorious God
@h2o8484 жыл бұрын
Very Edgy Super Soldier Except Loser
@peterschilling15064 жыл бұрын
I still cannot imagine a fork having it with a tree to make thousands of these vessels. Maybe that's why the Hollow Knight starts stabbing himself halfway through the fight.
@raptorzpackgaming88604 жыл бұрын
He remembers
@purevessel48013 жыл бұрын
Yea
@purevessel48013 жыл бұрын
I’m ashamed of my dad
@Lord_Freeza14103 жыл бұрын
@@purevessel4801 You got stuck with the worst higher bring possible haha
@purevessel48013 жыл бұрын
@@Lord_Freeza1410 ...bring? Don’t you mean being?
@SnakesAnimations4 жыл бұрын
Just adding my thoughts, why would Pale King even make Hornet a vessel? In order to contain a god, would you use the child of two gods or the child of one god and a random spider
@milk_choc78894 жыл бұрын
She wasn't even made to hold the Radiance though.
@SnakesAnimations4 жыл бұрын
Milk_Choc exactly, so there’s no reason she would be void
@rich_gamer06672 жыл бұрын
She can't be a vessel either way, she has a mind
@sunnyid2 жыл бұрын
@@rich_gamer0667 *coughs* Hollow Knight *coughs*
@xrefed2 жыл бұрын
@@rich_gamer0667 your referring to a PERFECT verssel not just a vessel our little boi is just a vessel yet he still is able to do side quests heck the hollow knight was able to feel attached to the pale king even thought he is a vessel
@ultr4tr1ps6 жыл бұрын
Early?!? To a Mossbag video?! Man, my day's really SUCKED. It was pretty DARK, almost like there's NOTHING to do. But suddenly a mossbag video drops, and my HOLE day turns around. It was pretty great.
@dialog_box6 жыл бұрын
*HOLE*
@DementedDuskull6 жыл бұрын
Sucked Dark Nothing Hole What are you trying to say
@ultr4tr1ps6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know. That comment was deVOID of any humor whatsoever.
My theory is that the bug holding the Love Key was once the collector, they owned the building, they were capturing grubs and other bugs, and in some way got their hands on some delicious void. This void was their treasured possession and they took it everywhere they went, gazing into it constantly. But due to the nature of void being deadly and all, the void took over that bug, killing it and inheriting the bug's will, becoming what we now know as the collector. Because of the void being liquid and all, it didn't exactly need to take the key to enter the building, hence why it's still on the corpse. The reason that the void didn't just take over or just puppeteer the bug's corpse like it does with the vessels is because it is a comparatively weak bug, unlike the vessels born of two higher beings. Basically that bug in the queen's gardens used to be as crazy and eccentric as the collector of today.
@KatzenminzeWarVergeben2 жыл бұрын
I do like the Idea, but in the pale kings Workshop is a (idk how to call it, "machine"?) with the shape of the collector in it, so he was most likely created by the pale king.
@Green241525 ай бұрын
@@KatzenminzeWarVergeben mold.
@lucchi0186 жыл бұрын
Okay. You convinced me of Hornet not being made of void. As always i end up agreeing with most of your opinions. But the real important matter is... The speculation video about the hollow knight being 99% husbando material.
@goosemanVEVO6 жыл бұрын
Maybe Hollow Knight is the more feminine type, who knows? I mean, it literally has no genitals so... Yeah.
@lucchi0186 жыл бұрын
@@goosemanVEVO Tall, dark and handsome. He has all the important features to be male and desired by many.
@goosemanVEVO6 жыл бұрын
@@lucchi018 Now I just wanna set up a Hollow Knight Tinder account.
@drawician36866 жыл бұрын
Zote is hotter.
@hiveknight74166 жыл бұрын
@@goosemanVEVO Fun fact, in the Kickstarter page, Team Cherry referred to the Knight as male, meaning he was originally planned to be a boy. (Not to mention literally the entire fanbase refers to the vessels as males)
@Niyucuatro6 жыл бұрын
Another great video from PewDiePie
@micahlehrke95 жыл бұрын
he said to not actually call him that
@Kunar245 жыл бұрын
@@micahlehrke9 No shit. Not like that's a joke.
@commandblock70775 жыл бұрын
woooooosh
@pabloc42045 жыл бұрын
@@commandblock7077 who got wooshed here? you? thats the only possibility
@pabloc42045 жыл бұрын
@@ValeriosProto thanks for wooshing me for no reason mister r/iusereddit
@mrmemes78834 жыл бұрын
The game lists that hornet isn't void by calling her: Ahem. "The gendered child." We know that herrah and the pale king certainly weren't void, and they created hornet. Also, about the whole "gendered child" thing, all vessels are referred to as genderless. All vessels contain only void. Any other bugs are said to have genders. Only the vessels, which are made of void, are genderless. And hornet is referred to as the _gendered_ child, the opposite of genderless. 100% proof that hornet is not void
@juliuskulla20974 жыл бұрын
Hornet is not void. However, this argument is wrong, as you are inferring causality from correlation. 1. All vessels are referred to as genderless. This is true. 2. All vessels contain only void. This is also true, as far as we have seen. 3. Only the vessels, which are made of void, are genderless. For all of the bugs we have seen, this has been true. 4. Hornet is referred to as the gendered child, the opposite of genderless. This is also true. In none of this has there been any evidence that Hornet is void, because you are assuming that being void is the same as being a vessel, however we have seen that this is not the case; Kingsmoulds and the Collector are examples of why this is false. Your correlation is that all vessels have void, all vessels are genderless. Your inference of causation is that therefore, all void is genderless. Just because both things are linked to being a vessel does not mean that they are linked to each other, so your argument is inherently flawed.
@midnightmadness63444 жыл бұрын
@@juliuskulla2097 There's no reason to believe all things void aren't genderless though. The Kingsmould are void constructs, meaning they're Golems build by the Pale King for a purpose. There's no reason it would need a gender. The Hunter's journal even refers to the Kingmoulds as "it" clearly avoiding gendered pronouns. Now you may have a point with the Collector although again the Hunter's journal refers to the Collector as an it. If we had been given any indication that void beings could have a gender you'd have a point, but since there is no evidence that points to gendered void beings I'll side with Mr. Memes.
@Apotheosister4 жыл бұрын
@@juliuskulla2097 If Hornet isn't a vessel then she has no reason to be made of void. They're technically correct in a roundabout way, still proof. Then again, maybe my reading comprehension is garbage
@MD-qw2lh4 жыл бұрын
Julius Kulla well, no, because he’s still right, it was just a mistake, he’s still right, the kingsmoulds and wingsmoulds are genderless as well, he was referring to only the vessels because only the vessels are children of the pale kings, the kingsmoulds and wingsmoulds can’t have genders because they’re constructs, kind of like robots
@mrmemes78834 жыл бұрын
@@juliuskulla2097 can you not write a fucking college essay for why my argument about a videogame is wrong you idiot
@pepperoii Жыл бұрын
Just wanna say, You're honestly a wonderful youtuber to listen to while doing something else, because you've got closed captions, and you talk clearly which is an extra bonus for hearing impaired people, because most other youtubers sound like they whisper into the mic like its 2am.
@MrFailName6 жыл бұрын
I legit checked the Pale King wiki to see if that was actually in the trivia section... It's not, but it should be! XD
@96meelosh5 жыл бұрын
2:23 how dare you disrespect Myla like that!
@fuze78854 жыл бұрын
she justed want to make some dough mining crystals :(
@Poseidon-oz9pg4 жыл бұрын
I was sad when I found out myla was gonna get infected and there was nothing I could do to prevent it :(
@SirLeoVR3 жыл бұрын
imagine every agressive bug not infected walking around in a suit and tie talking about stonks
@fuze78853 жыл бұрын
@@SirLeoVR lol
@captainblue50963 жыл бұрын
Disrespectful, but accurate
@TheRealWalt5 жыл бұрын
When you raid area 51 and you find a document saying Hornet isnt void. *happy moss noises*
@kapa_nitori3 жыл бұрын
or the exact opposite *Angy moss noises*
@mintyblossom39302 жыл бұрын
2:33I think when the white lady says “striking reflection of her mother” it’s less about their visual similarity and more so that hornet shares traits with herrah like “she’s fierce, strong in mind and body” and that’s what is strikingly similar to herrah
@RastaxBot4 жыл бұрын
1:18 I have no mouth. and I must SHAAAW
@fuze78854 жыл бұрын
By Harlan Ellison
@RacingSnails643 жыл бұрын
and I must EGALEEEH!
@phoenixapollo36086 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna ruin this mans whole career, She's not void because she has a purple cape instead of grey. Okay to stop the notifications everyone keeps sending the same response. IT HAS BEEN A YEAR LOOK AT THE REPLIES A GO AWAY.
@yeahkeen29055 жыл бұрын
Kathy Kat there are shades of purple that look like that. Colors can be weird. There are colors considered white that are peach. Of course that might have something to do with skin color.
@goddessdeedeebubblesofimag77894 жыл бұрын
Red cloak
@Solar_Axis4 жыл бұрын
It isn't even that! It's RED!!!
@nikoozen60494 жыл бұрын
I am so confused.
@phoenixapollo36084 жыл бұрын
@@quinn.blink_141 thank you man, it's hard out here for a color blind Phoenix, red and purple have always looked alike to me.
@SoməøneXD5 жыл бұрын
12:55 "the only defective vessel we know about is the hollow knight" so you are saying that ALL THE SIBLINGS THAT WERE DUMPED INTO THE ABYSS ARE *NOT* DEFECTIVE?
@thecommentguy93805 жыл бұрын
"Some things should never be discovered" - Pale king
@kindertak53964 жыл бұрын
No, they failed, I actually thiink that they are like they are vessels that died (Basically STeel Soul). Such as Broken Vessel (He is dead and his Shade is somewhere, he is not alive when fighting him. (Wait, then why when defeat Lost kin he has a soul? SHOULDNT IT BE A SHADE OR SOMETHING?)
@soyeahsauce4 жыл бұрын
The key word in that phrase is know
@thefatherinthecave9434 жыл бұрын
they failed, but also the pale king grew attached to the hollow knight, likely because it was the first vessel to make it out. its not like he made all the vessels duel it out and instead chose the first that made it out. also, what if the pale king knew the hollow knight wasn't strong enough and saw the knight contain the radiance? he did have the ability to see into the future, it took the HK AND 3 dreamers to seal away the radiance and the knight does it without a single dreamer to help. that would also rely on the knight being the perfect vessel. he might've banked on that and didn't see the knight be able to kill the radiance truly and fully, instead of putting a cork in it like the endings. several characters do comment on how the king seemed to make some poor predictions
@purevessel48013 жыл бұрын
Hey! I’m not defective
@declanbramham35332 жыл бұрын
Rewatching it all in 2022, and another detail I noticed in the hornet fight is that when the knight is hit, the resulting 'blood' is void scattering across the screen, whilst when hornet is hit it is the standard response of normal bugs absent of infection.
@BlueSkyBirdies Жыл бұрын
Fun insect fact! Bug blood is called hemolymph!
@TheHollowProphet4 жыл бұрын
"100% Waifu" *Apply seal of approval *
@purevessel48013 жыл бұрын
I’m still a better waifu than my sister
@themyconidwitch3 жыл бұрын
@@purevessel4801 you dont have a gender tho
@purevessel48013 жыл бұрын
@@themyconidwitch I don’t need a gender to be a waifu
@themyconidwitch3 жыл бұрын
@@purevessel4801 i know but its just,waifu is used for girls
@treesimp66863 жыл бұрын
@@purevessel4801 hello
@seafoamspirit34844 жыл бұрын
9:25 For some reason, the line "they lost their gender" was really funny to me. I pictured it as a physical thing they left somewhere in the abyss. Just wandering around, eventually "oh, hey, my she-her!" or something
@gamingcookiereal Жыл бұрын
i am agender and this is how i lost mine
@Thirty_Five Жыл бұрын
"Damn it, I dropped my she/her. Not again..."
@mrwiseguy7405 Жыл бұрын
"My dick fell off wtf..."
@Thehatguywho Жыл бұрын
Shit lost ma verginaty
@rezissped341711 ай бұрын
I imagined the other physical thing
@VoidAbaddon6 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that a shell is soul. The mask maker implies that it's the faces, or masks, that give identity. Another way of describing a soul is an identity. This compounds with the fact that the health points are shells, which are restored by focusing soul. Soul, given focus, to create thought. So yeah, with the notion of only shelled beings, or beings with some other type of physical form, giving soul, it makes sense that that's where it comes from. Hell, it even works from the perspective of the "Mistakes" in the Soul Sanctum having their shells melt into an amorphous sludge from the misuse of soul.
@dinoahmad1823 жыл бұрын
Well a big clue that Hornet is not a vessel is that she can speak, while vessels can not. Also, Hornet is 50% good character and 50% waifu.
@geckoanims2 жыл бұрын
Zote?
@slajmekpl832 жыл бұрын
So 100% good character
@MrAwesomeVVV6 жыл бұрын
13:22 haha, of course it isn't dummy... The earth is actually a tetrahedron
@SpitFyre376 жыл бұрын
CONFIRMED
@skipgoose44266 жыл бұрын
No, it's a hexahedron
@Supershadow3016 жыл бұрын
It's velociraptor-shaped, with the tip of its tail being Mt Everest.
@nagitoaussiemandias6 жыл бұрын
clearly, the earth is actually sans from undertale
@tophatoctopus19976 жыл бұрын
The earth is a mobius strip you dumb fucks
@thefunkyfish56405 жыл бұрын
Silk song will probably address Hornet’s birth in more detail. In the little gameplay we have seen, it’s clear Hornet has a connection to the weavers. How could she have this if she was not a blood relative of their queen?
@mathiswagner84726 жыл бұрын
Also Paintmaster Sheo also knows that he's summend by the godseekers. When you start the fight you can see that he's painting a picture of the godseeker
@ernestoernestez65376 жыл бұрын
Maybe it came to his mind as inspiration because he knows something subconsciously but doesn’t actually realize it
@connorlego52296 жыл бұрын
What about the point that the godseeker is LITTERALLY RIGHT BEHIND HIM so he probably just drew what he saw
@mathiswagner84726 жыл бұрын
Connor Young still. Other bosses dont even see them
@ernestoernestez65376 жыл бұрын
Yea most don’t seem to notice the godseekers, and only grimm really acknowledges their presence, so I doubt that sheo was actually painting them a portrait just because they are there, but rather perceives them through his inspiration alone.
@mathiswagner84726 жыл бұрын
Never Before Have I Tasted Flour maybe, but he does see them, what the other gods cant. Even if he doesnt really care abt them
@pailhorsegaming67623 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the fact that hornet is the Knight’s half sister kinda just makes me like her more, it’s a cool dynamic.
@bestguitar115 жыл бұрын
Also, Hornet uses her "weave" to hold the Hollow Knight down so we can dreamnail him. The weave is made of soul, an attribute of the Pale King, not void.
@tamas95542 жыл бұрын
We don't actually know if the weavers use souls for their silk. We don't really know anything about the magical powers in Hollow Knight sadly. Even soul is very vaguely explained inside the game.
@Souleaterfan1004 жыл бұрын
If Herrah wanted a child through the pale king as a gift for assisting in the dream ritual.. There would be no need to drop her egg into the void as she was never intended to be a hollow vessel to begin with. Hornet is born of Herrah and "god" (Pale king) not void, hence the "similar source" she shares (Higher Being status) and the irony of the "emptiness" she lacks (The knights void) giving her hope. The similar source is her "higher being" status given through the pale king and the crucial emptiness is the void. Neither the Pale King nor Herrah are ever mentioned as being "empty"; Only the void is given that label. Not to mention she never gives off void effects when struck VS when the knight is struck.
@hiphyro6 жыл бұрын
YAY ANOTHER VIDEO And apparently the pale king is a male prostitute... good to know...
@azalakhir9186 жыл бұрын
@@somedude140 he actually paid her to have sex with her. Pale king payed with a child. But am not really sure who payed who.
@electrum55796 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this guy fucks
@StarNaviNova6 жыл бұрын
Yep XD
@nucleardrift_yt85925 жыл бұрын
Hiphyro u
@MadLaVolpe5 жыл бұрын
No costs too great.
@nnn-zx9by3 жыл бұрын
Hornet is: 50% - waifu 50% - git gud
@bonniefazman90652 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Roman-ik3cf2 жыл бұрын
Actually Hornet is: 25% waifu 25% git gud 50% SHAW
@vnutri7106 жыл бұрын
"I guess the gift was... You know, His dick." You know, I always wondered why people say things like "I get so happy when I see a notification from (KZbinr of the video they're commenting on)", it always felt so fake to me, like, in the age of thousands of subscriptions there are very few people that you even have a chance of being focused enough to wait for uploads and get giddy with excitement from, you usually forget after long enough, but I finally understood when I found your amazing, hilarious, informative, captivating videos on my favorite game. Thank you good sir, I may not have a good life, but goddamn if that 10-20 minutes or more of Hollow Knight content I get every once in a while and the extra time from re-watches doesn't keep the noose in the closet. And gut-exploding jokes like that are (a big reason) why. Thank you, comrade. Thank you.
@LordofBroccoli6 жыл бұрын
I was gonna make a creepy comment about Hornet, but instead I would like to say that I really love your videos, mossbag. You have some of the best wit and sarcasm that I've seen on KZbin.
@chipsoapart5 жыл бұрын
Umm what was the creepy comment?- nevermind I don't want to know....
@PoggerFoxy4 жыл бұрын
half of the community: hornet is void the other half: NO SHE'S NOT me: WAIFU IS WAIFU
@notyourdad2214 жыл бұрын
M I L K I S M I L K
@ardabilgin32694 жыл бұрын
@@notyourdad221 Silk is silk*
@doot77304 жыл бұрын
Silk waifu
@leemeyer93954 жыл бұрын
I wonder if she has 8 limbs
@kiyutuuin4 жыл бұрын
@@leemeyer9395 so that she can touch eight spots at a time?
@mikvowel24943 жыл бұрын
9:45 "That fucked face from Spirted Away" And i took that personally
@BallistX4 жыл бұрын
*"I swear to god if it's Wyrm ambergris..."*
@lememegstudios77685 жыл бұрын
“Just call me Pewdiepie, because it’s time for this meme to die.” My phone: *Battery Sufficiently Charged*
@pronumeral14465 жыл бұрын
"the only defective vessel we know of is the hollow knight" And the Broken Vessel.
@b2modby5 жыл бұрын
And The Knight. Since, you know, has will strong enough to "unify void", and thats a big flaw as far as the purpose of vessels goes.
@snehilshukla95414 жыл бұрын
And that one knight in Hornet's boss room in greenpath who is defeated by her
@solielnova11174 жыл бұрын
and all the ones in the nosks chamber
@spoiledbratmonster19174 жыл бұрын
AND THE TRILLIONS OF DEAD VESSELS
@kindertak53964 жыл бұрын
No, hes not defective, he failed in his mission and then the infection took control of his body, but he is ded
@handoverthestromboli67154 жыл бұрын
In the famous words of Incel Hal from blockbuster hit Megamind, "There is no easter bunny, there is no tooth fairy and there is no conceivable way for Hornet to void."
@Markogames-sp8bw5 жыл бұрын
i thought she was void because the of the sealed sibling achievement and since they were siblings they must be made out of the same things, but im an idiot
@marcetteb60644 жыл бұрын
Markogames123 half siblings! What makes family trees complicated! woop woop : )
@randomchannel6094 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about about your dad with your sister!
@TheDigitalApple4 жыл бұрын
Marcette Bolinger Wait so what would a half siblings mother be called? I can’t sleep and I must know
@ghosttoadsarecute87554 жыл бұрын
@@TheDigitalApple false mother
@asrieldreemurr19884 жыл бұрын
Digital Apple stepmom?
@ThomasBD6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, this video changed my vision about the Plae King, the siblings being the Pale King's own children "infected" by the void, it makes everything he did even WORSE! GOSH!
@ThomasBD6 жыл бұрын
@Me Alexander I read the lore, but I never got to connect all of the dialogues and all of the texts
@thebiolibrary55725 жыл бұрын
Thomas B. Del. I thought he just made them with Soul and void, but it turns out he had sex with the White Lady and killed the children before they were even fully born and filled them with void. That makes it worse.
@DISCO-munication5 жыл бұрын
Years from now this iconic video will be remembered as the one on the right side of history. I still rewatch it from time to time.
@killer_boss013 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for silksong, best waifu! And a sad story behind her mother, we had to kill her, and she knew we had to do it to save hollownest, her character is so brave and genuine.
@darkhoneysweet5 жыл бұрын
WHAT!? Are you implying Santa ISN'T REAL????
@colorfulchameleon98914 жыл бұрын
... yes.
@Feningor4 жыл бұрын
F-F-UUUUCK!
@grenien41094 жыл бұрын
he's also implying that the earth is flat, so that doesn't mean anything. I think...
@kindertak53964 жыл бұрын
yes
@Unbr0k3nPr0mm1se4 жыл бұрын
No, santa is obviously real! What else would explain the 80 year old man that comes every Christmas and asks my 7 year old self if i want "presents"!? *wait a second*
@infinity34594 жыл бұрын
About the White Lady being blind! She may be physically blind, but considering she's a higher being, she probably has some form of blindsight, probably in the form of sensing the aura/energy given off by different creatures. Hornet would share a similar energy to Herra because she is her daughter, and the Knight, while empty, would still reek of Void.
@1umbreon4life8 ай бұрын
Oooooo I like this train of thought
@Eradicreator4 жыл бұрын
Mossbag : "let's pretend the tooth fairy is real, or that Santa Claus exists . . ." Me : "Okay." Mossbag : " Or that the Earth is actually round!" Me : "Wait, what?"
@bonniefazman90652 жыл бұрын
He's joking... Right?
@HornetofHallownest Жыл бұрын
Nah we all know the earth is a doughnut
@mlem69-420 Жыл бұрын
Most of what I remeber of Hornet is just her saying "Shaw!" 15 times in her boss fight.
@OddOrWhatever4 жыл бұрын
I truly adore your content and consistently rewatch it cause I love your personality and humor
@jacksond79564 жыл бұрын
Bruh she was literally birthed... *How can she be made of void*
@ImieNazwiskoOK3 жыл бұрын
More likely hatched out. It's bug after all. Because: vessels hatched, vessels were kind of child of Pale King, Hornet is his daughter.
@captainblue50963 жыл бұрын
@@ImieNazwiskoOK Well, the White Lady is a higher being. She could have a different way of breeding (through an egg) than Herrah, a regular bug.
@ImieNazwiskoOK3 жыл бұрын
@@captainblue5096 I mean she(Herrah) is spider, and spiders lay eggs. Also there are eggs in abyss, which would suggest that vessels hatched from Eggs (so white lady laid eggs)
@IdkDiegoiguess2 жыл бұрын
ummm, sooo is the egg in the abyss a prop? were none of the vessels ever born EVEN THO THE WHITE LADY CALLS US HER SPAWN?
@masterfernando75186 жыл бұрын
Every time I came back, this guy always have something amazing to show us, if a joke or a theory. Or both! This guy is my favorite KZbinr right now. Dood.
@khloeg16493 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was pretty clear that she isn't void because of the line "Though our strength is born of a similar source, that part of you, that crucial emptiness, I do not share." the crucial emptiness is the void that Ghost is made of, and the "strength from a similar source" is them both being children of the pale king
@khloeg16493 жыл бұрын
also "I won't be joining you in this. That space is built to sustain your likes. Its binding would drain me were I to join."
@khloeg16493 жыл бұрын
also she can talk! the vessels have no voice to cry suffering. hornet has a voice. so she's not a vessel.
@khloeg16493 жыл бұрын
100% waifu, 0% void.
@digitab44464 жыл бұрын
The fact that she talks should be proof enough
@tejwantgill91494 жыл бұрын
VOID ALSO MEANS EMPTY SO WHEN HORNET SAYS "THAT CRUCIAL EMPTINESS, I DO NOT SHARE " SHE IS REFFERING TO THE VOID. CONCLUSION HORNET IS NOT VOID
THIS WAS MONTHS AGO BUT ILL STILL SCREAM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@daniel.IMilton6 жыл бұрын
The sarcasm is off the scales, thanks for another amazing lore vid
@stuffstuff34553 жыл бұрын
The main counter argument to 'Hornet isn't void' is 'the emptiness Hornet is referring to is the knight's hollowness'. Well, why does Hornet talk to the knight in ways that only non hollow beings could understand? Hornet isn't the only one aware of the vessel's nature that talks to them as if they weren't hollow: Orgrim and Ze'mer. And last but certainly not least, Steel soul Jinn, "it has a will of it's own." And thing you do to make her say this is to refuse to trade, which in itself is something requires a will. And the void heart description states 'unifies the void under the bearer's will.' And the siblings description states, 'a fragment of a lingering will.' And the wander's journal states the void tendrils, 'have a will of their own.'
@tommyrasmussen23372 жыл бұрын
Counter conter is defective vessels
@jaredstearns22236 жыл бұрын
I refresh my subs and see a mossbag video; today was a good day
@MysteryKar4 жыл бұрын
''The only defective vessel we know about is the Hollow Knight'' the thousands of dead vessels in the abyss: Are we a joke to you?
@ilovekfc-nz6bi4 жыл бұрын
he only says that because it's the only vessel we know for sure is defective
@purevessel48013 жыл бұрын
IM NOT DEFECTIVE! This guy’s just mean...
@NPC.error4043 жыл бұрын
i think he ment: the only *ALIVE* defective vessel is the Hollow Knight. but if not, then he just did a mistake
@whirl36902 жыл бұрын
Defective's definition according to Google is "imperfect or faulty." When he says the Hollow Knight is defective, he means that it failed at actually doing its job--a vessel dying does not make it defective, it didn't get far enough to be defective in the first place: It did not get the chance to try its job and fail.
@bloomenvogel2 жыл бұрын
@@purevessel4801 hi pure vessel
@Xi9V4 жыл бұрын
Also, the vessels (particularly our knight) and the collector get hit with shade/void particles compared to Hornet where the particles are way brighter... proving more that she is not void
@RostamCTM3 жыл бұрын
No one's Gonna say something about this little easter egg in the tabs at minute 1:01? Ily Mossbag, you made laugh so hard
@St33ldancer5 жыл бұрын
Hornet is officially not void!!!HOORAY
@gordonfreemaan5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I'm a spider.
@yonatanbeer34755 жыл бұрын
white void
@thegamer3033 жыл бұрын
Isn’t that soul?
@alexisandersen13925 жыл бұрын
Mantis jumping out at 6:50 wrecked you, I can tell from the pixels.
@fuze78854 жыл бұрын
also you can see the actual mantis at 6:55
@ActualAlienBoiiii6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what about *Hornet is part of the Eternal Ordeal*
@trash16146 жыл бұрын
Zotenet
@gordonfreemaan5 жыл бұрын
@@trash1614 I dont know how to respond to that.
@xr2nightmare5 жыл бұрын
wait what
@Nuketini5 жыл бұрын
Oh god please no.
@RacingSnails643 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's odd to me that people would bother to think Hornet is void. Like, she doesn't use any void abilities, only the needle and string, so why bother? Also, she literally says she "doesn't share that crucial emptiness" after you scale the Abyss when you acquire the shadow dash from that statue holding the bowl. Pretty much confirming she's not like you. Not sure how to refute that.
@sammeruno2396 жыл бұрын
A couple of things: The Hollow Knight isn't the only defective vessel we know of. There's also the... Broken Vessel. The delicate flower doesn't seem to be connected to the Pale King at all, based on what the White Lady says if you bring her one. That said, some think he used such a flower to make his palace vanish. I disagree with some of the more speculative points you make, but agree with the conclusion.
@mirrormimi6 жыл бұрын
What I wonder is what Hornet got from Herrah, other than the head shape. She and most of the Deepnest enemies have six arms, maybe she has an extra pair of arms she hides under her dress, lol
@Swarming-Languendo6 жыл бұрын
that would explain the silk... or thread that she uses
@Deoix98776 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it all ties with the theory that she was trained by vespa, that's why she uses thread to fight, but also fights similarly to the hive knight, even using the spike ball attack, except that hornet combines it with thread instead of honey.
@chickentendies52156 жыл бұрын
why can hornet use silk? is she connected to the weavers somehow?
@Deoix98776 жыл бұрын
she's the daughter of Herra, who is a spider
@rainevermore46836 жыл бұрын
Beast 6479 I kind of just assumed that it's a charm. Hell, the knight can even spawn weavers if he wants. But i also used to think that the pale king made our best girl with the white lady as a gift to Herra since I was under the impression that the spider queen must have been infertile; so don't take my words for it!
@shireenakter44095 жыл бұрын
13:23 "The earth is actually round", okay now that going too far
@ImieNazwiskoOK3 жыл бұрын
It's not 100% round so he kinda isn't wrong
@ManioqV Жыл бұрын
@@ImieNazwiskoOKthe earth is the shape of the Hollow Knight's shell Wait, are you Polish?