Hallownest's Ancient Civilization Examined

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@mossbag69
@mossbag69 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I wanted to share some counters to the points made in this video. It is entirely possible that void has a will of its own, and that it natural takes the form of tendrils that thrash about, given how often they come off of other beings like the Knight and the Lord Shade. The “imprint of Abyss given form” might be like some kind of “footprint” left by some void creature. We don't know for sure that the Black Egg is made of Void. There is a small part of floor in the Ancestral Mound that is similar to the ones we see near Soul Totems. However, this one is not near those totems. This might indicate that the Shamans are connected to the Ancient Civilization in some way. We don’t know for sure that the corpse containing the Colosseum of Fools is a Wyrm. Finally, some mask shards can also be found near these twisted pillars that I mentioned. It would make sense that the ANCIENT masks are connected to the ANCIENT civilization, so this is a nice bit of info for sure.
@hiphyro
@hiphyro 5 жыл бұрын
mossbag ok
@red2432
@red2432 5 жыл бұрын
Im very excited your back with some more hollowknight
@lagiacrus1180
@lagiacrus1180 5 жыл бұрын
If the Colosseum isn't a Wyrm, what would it be? Could it just be a dead, lesser wyrm?
@superheriber27
@superheriber27 5 жыл бұрын
Hey you are alive! :D
@KingsBard
@KingsBard 5 жыл бұрын
Not gonna like cause it's at 69
@YARGGG_GG
@YARGGG_GG 5 жыл бұрын
void given FACTS and LOGIC
@dropadraco
@dropadraco 4 жыл бұрын
Void don't care about your emotions confirmed?
@Vampeleton
@Vampeleton 4 жыл бұрын
@@dropadraco well...it is true that they don't have much or any emotion
@themariokid2310
@themariokid2310 4 жыл бұрын
Stupid moth snowflakes...
@okoder
@okoder 4 жыл бұрын
Mothtards wrecked with FACTS and LOGIC
@lem0ncrunch
@lem0ncrunch 4 жыл бұрын
Void + Facts + Logic = mossbag????
@mesastreatexit
@mesastreatexit 3 жыл бұрын
re: the Abyss being structured like a well, and asking where the Void would be collected from. Real wells are dug to harvest groundwater. so the implication is that the Void rises up from ground even deeper than the ancient civilization's area, and the Abyss, like a normal well, is a way of tapping in to that natural resource.
@eddie0326ful
@eddie0326ful 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know who this “Will” guy is but he sounds pretty important
@abdullahbashir5297
@abdullahbashir5297 5 жыл бұрын
I think he’s secretly the governor of Florida
@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989
@thatlonelygiraffeinc.6989 5 жыл бұрын
He will be in the future
@squee-g1658
@squee-g1658 5 жыл бұрын
He's probably a prince who likes to keep things fresh
@weebaverage3026
@weebaverage3026 5 жыл бұрын
@@squee-g1658 the one from West Philadelphia?
@squee-g1658
@squee-g1658 5 жыл бұрын
Born and raised!
@JackJohnson-zh9ul
@JackJohnson-zh9ul 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the utopia we’d be living in if we reached the abyss expansion Kickstarter milestone
@Green_Bean_Machine
@Green_Bean_Machine 4 ай бұрын
Real
@Krauss75
@Krauss75 5 жыл бұрын
I fucking love your style of videos, never on youtube have I seen a single person perfectly walk the line between education and shitposting. Keep it up mate, you're doing great
@mossbag69
@mossbag69 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's a fine line, for sure!
@trueqiuhan
@trueqiuhan 5 жыл бұрын
@@mossbag69 he's Australian I believe. Have you tried asking him to stalk Team Cherry for you?
@glorck7064
@glorck7064 5 жыл бұрын
I drink cocaïne blended with newborn feces
@tidal7643
@tidal7643 5 жыл бұрын
Cyber she'll for hollow knight
@roselily20062
@roselily20062 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is off-topic, but is your profile the Spirit of the Night from Binding of Isaac?
@meyes1098
@meyes1098 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you have to consider when talking about "rocks" is that ancient bugs COULD have fossilized inside the walls, hence why nearby "rocks" had wills.
@vizthex
@vizthex Жыл бұрын
wall titans but void (real).
@karlm115
@karlm115 5 жыл бұрын
The ancient civilization was just all Zotes. They fought a big war, Zote was the only survivor
@madengineerkyouma
@madengineerkyouma 5 жыл бұрын
Zote is void confirmed
@celalberkavsaroglu5252
@celalberkavsaroglu5252 5 жыл бұрын
There were two sides . Everyone vs Zote ... We only see Zote and ancient civilizations ruins in Hollowknight.
@hasiumcreeper5384
@hasiumcreeper5384 5 жыл бұрын
@@madengineerkyouma Void is Zote Confirmed.
@anti-glassesgang7622
@anti-glassesgang7622 5 жыл бұрын
The Great Zote War
@LakritsUwU
@LakritsUwU 5 жыл бұрын
The Eternal Ordeal
@tank19768
@tank19768 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, thanks for linking that "The Void" doc, as a result of it I've realised something very interesting regarding the Kingsoul and the Void Heart that I think everyone has missed thus far. A common point of confusion when it comes to the Hollow Knight lore is "What is the Kingsoul? Why does it come in two parts? Why does it become the Void Heart?". A common answer is something along the lines of "It's literally the King's soul turned into a charm (possibly as a result of his death, since charms are noted to be created this way), which was split for the White Lady to give to a worthy vessel and be completed upon finding the King (since the white lady cannot be found without shade cloak due to the Pale King creating a shadow barrier) and it gets turned into the Void Heart because it is altered by the void within The Knight upon its realisation of its true self. This, however, brings up several questions: "If it's the King's Soul, why does it mention in the description that it is "symbolising a union between higher beings" (IE the Pale King and the White Lady)? Why does the White Lady imply that the Void Heart was always inside the Kingsoul ("The Kingsoul... What is at the heart of it I wonder?") when by all logic neither the King nor Queen should have a trace of void within them?" This, individual who actually bothered to read this overly long comment which I really should have just made into a reply video, I shall now reveal to you! To put it simply, it is no coincidence that the Kingsoul/Voidheart symbolises the vessels perfectly - "Soul of Wyrm, soul of Root, heart of Void" - The soul of the Pale King and the soul of the White Lady form the two halves of the vessel's shell, and the void based shade makes up the heart of the vessel. Similarly the two white halves of the Kingsoul encase the black Void Heart. When urging The Knight to discover what lies at the heart of the Kingsoul, the White Lady says the following: "If its curiosity wills it, it should seek out that place. That place where it was born, where it died, where it began..." The vessels are created by taking the eggs of the White Lady and Pale King and subjecting them to the Void of the Abyss. As implied here, the Void kills the original inhabitant of the egg and takes its place within the now empty shell, creating a new 'life' in the form of the vessel. The Kingsoul is actually the charm created from the death of the King and Queen's thousands of children within the void and represents the vessels themselves; this explains why the Void Heart is within the Kingsoul, what the "symbolising a union between higher beings" means (as what is more symbolic of a union of beings than the creation of a child?), why the Kingsoul requires notches to equip but the Void Heart is a part of its bearer and cannot be unequipped (the Kingsoul is symbolic of the child that died and is separate from the vessel, whereas the Void Heart is symbolic of the created vessel). The charm generates soul because as children of the Pale King, the original inhabitants of the eggs would surely by fonts of soul power. The White Lady and Pale King each took half of the charm, "our once-fractured soul, now complete" partly as a reminder of their shame "There is some shame I feel from my own part in the deed" for committing the atrocity they did (which explains the enigmatic "No cost too great" you get from dream nailing the Pale King as he clutches his half of the Kingsoul - it was a reasonable assumption to say he was talking about the death of his sacrificed children before and the fact that he was thinking this whilst holding the Kingsoul just reinforces the theory that the Kingsoul is representative of this) and partly as a boon for any new vessel that would seek to fulfill its duty. If you made it here, thanks for reading and I hope you like my theory.
@Chorsanoidka
@Chorsanoidka 4 жыл бұрын
you are underappreciated, man.
@alexiaatheducc
@alexiaatheducc 3 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing theory!! Great great job, person!!!
@ellw7830
@ellw7830 3 жыл бұрын
YES THIS MAKES SENSE YES
@exalted_space9224
@exalted_space9224 2 жыл бұрын
Newheadcannon acquired
@lucasfarias8516
@lucasfarias8516 2 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck dude, this makes so much sense.
@hiphyro
@hiphyro 5 жыл бұрын
Someday moss bag will run out of hollow knight sounds to start the video with
@W4LT3Rego
@W4LT3Rego 5 жыл бұрын
He'll be dead by the time he makes 10 more videos
@grinshady0164
@grinshady0164 5 жыл бұрын
Hell will freeze over before that happens
@inpepseus
@inpepseus 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy,after silksong we're doomed.
@navivan768
@navivan768 5 жыл бұрын
Nah he still has the Grimmkin
@shootbob79ps42
@shootbob79ps42 5 жыл бұрын
That's a bold claim
@indigocactus3089
@indigocactus3089 5 жыл бұрын
6:17 Didja really think you were slick, hiding that Gruz Mother death?
@herosoris1545
@herosoris1545 3 жыл бұрын
Video taken seconds before disaster.
@nickotricko1095
@nickotricko1095 3 жыл бұрын
lol i saw that too
@ajamid0145
@ajamid0145 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@DanaRJabbaR
@DanaRJabbaR Жыл бұрын
I was literally about to comment that
@molamola9723
@molamola9723 5 жыл бұрын
Move over Hornet is Void, Rocks are Void confirmed.
@lagiacrus1180
@lagiacrus1180 5 жыл бұрын
Drapes are void*
@St33ldancer
@St33ldancer 5 жыл бұрын
Rick Scott is void
@kakuru9517
@kakuru9517 3 жыл бұрын
Void is void
@jacobmonica5558
@jacobmonica5558 3 жыл бұрын
I am void
@apatosaurus9374
@apatosaurus9374 3 жыл бұрын
Rick Astley is void
@RevAustin68
@RevAustin68 5 жыл бұрын
Who would win? One giant *moth* Or One *dark chocolate* ocean
@ingeborggranli9547
@ingeborggranli9547 5 жыл бұрын
REV *Licorice ocean, anything that aggressive has to be licorice
@calypsosystem3726
@calypsosystem3726 5 жыл бұрын
Ingeborg Granli y i k e s n o
@Ben-it8ec
@Ben-it8ec 5 жыл бұрын
@@ingeborggranli9547 j j j i j jj j j j j jj
@Ben-it8ec
@Ben-it8ec 5 жыл бұрын
@@ingeborggranli9547 i j j
@ingeborggranli9547
@ingeborggranli9547 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Tapia Rivera i j j ?
@Grim-c8n
@Grim-c8n 5 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize an ancient civilization left you a bunch of soul offerings for you to consume
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 5 жыл бұрын
They worship darkness, what do you expect out of a bunch of edgelords?
@alilweeb7684
@alilweeb7684 5 жыл бұрын
African culture maybe? That can be some very powerful analogy
@WrektSK
@WrektSK 4 жыл бұрын
@@alilweeb7684 I mean some ancient African civs weren't the only ones who worshipped dark gods and so on. There are plenty of evidence that suggest many civilizations and ethnicities did it. So frankly, there's no perfect analogy for the ancient civilizations in HK here.
@alilweeb7684
@alilweeb7684 4 жыл бұрын
@@WrektSK being real with you? Idk what the fuck was i smoking to make that comment
@Shrek_es_mi_pastor
@Shrek_es_mi_pastor 3 жыл бұрын
@@alilweeb7684 Probably it was a joke with the soul genre of music but no idea why you thought they worshipped darknes...
@flip.flap.
@flip.flap. 5 жыл бұрын
"Are these load-bearing corpses?" --My new favorite quote of 2019
@bostandaniel9709
@bostandaniel9709 5 жыл бұрын
Every time Mossbag uploads a video the plot thickens
@ronniewhitedx
@ronniewhitedx 5 жыл бұрын
Team cherry just grabs their notepad every time he posts now.
@pclouds
@pclouds 5 жыл бұрын
The _void_ thickens
@solarprogeny6736
@solarprogeny6736 5 жыл бұрын
And so does my penis
@alilweeb7684
@alilweeb7684 5 жыл бұрын
Mossbag holds the very fabric of PLOT in his hands
@InnovativeSparks
@InnovativeSparks 3 жыл бұрын
@@solarprogeny6736 someone had to ruin it
@RelyeaGaming
@RelyeaGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Rick Scott now has my vote
@cats77364
@cats77364 3 жыл бұрын
oh no
@jfk0-fish518
@jfk0-fish518 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that in the room with the abyss light house there looks to be other towers (of similar architectures the light house) in the background of the void shores
@shevrett2658
@shevrett2658 5 жыл бұрын
Void shore lore
@ellw7830
@ellw7830 3 жыл бұрын
the backgrounds are so detailed and complex, i constantly forget about them but they always add more to the game and area if you take a second to admire them
@finnmccarthy9768
@finnmccarthy9768 5 жыл бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that they had intended that the game would go deeper than the abyss, that you would swim in the void lake. They said that the abyss is basically the tip of a vast ice Berg. You probably have seen this at some point, but I'd be interested in knowing if the Void Civilisation lived down there or just on the surface.
@andrewwilliams9613
@andrewwilliams9613 5 жыл бұрын
The Radiance ate the drapes before she was killed by The Knight.
@gel-pen-gel-drinker
@gel-pen-gel-drinker 5 жыл бұрын
And a little bit of HK's cloak AAAnd his arm
@ingeborggranli9547
@ingeborggranli9547 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Williams 😂😂😂
@luharmah8242
@luharmah8242 5 жыл бұрын
wait the the radiance is woman
@peachdoxie
@peachdoxie 5 жыл бұрын
Should've added some mothballs to the Black Egg
@Scribbled2Death
@Scribbled2Death 5 жыл бұрын
I mean she IS a moth..
@jwilker94
@jwilker94 5 жыл бұрын
Radiance’s dream nail dialogue saying “ancient enemy” kinda proves that there was a previous shade lord. Because I think void wouldn’t have been a very big deal to her if it wasn’t united into the lord
@forkgodsdescendant2503
@forkgodsdescendant2503 Жыл бұрын
Maybe that’s why she’s in the Dream Realm. What if Void started taking over her kingdom in the form of an uprising lead by this previous Shade Lord? She could have sacrificed her form in the physical realm in order to defeat it. Before doing this, she ordered her followers to remember her. For saving them all. But that got ruined by The Pale King showing up in her absence, endangering her status, and by extension, her existence. And that’s why she got furious and started the infection.
@tvboxmimic7887
@tvboxmimic7887 5 жыл бұрын
You’ve talked about Whore lore Vore lore and Floor lore but I need More lore
@VampiricDragon666
@VampiricDragon666 5 жыл бұрын
Now to wait for gore lore that won't be a bore. Radiance demands more orange juice, but why orange?
@kendrickstock4363
@kendrickstock4363 5 жыл бұрын
What about door lore?
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 5 жыл бұрын
Or rather Moor Lore. How DOES the larger Hollow Knight mythos factor into Islamic Iberia? Truly, this is the most important question.
@hiphyro
@hiphyro 5 жыл бұрын
TVBoxMimic How about Thor lore Door lore Core lore Your lore
@diamondsos4425
@diamondsos4425 5 жыл бұрын
How about snore lore? Why do only Bretta and the Dung defender sleep?
@stupidbluegoblin77
@stupidbluegoblin77 3 жыл бұрын
But the void, on it's own, does have a will. The original dream nail dialogue for the Shadelord statue was "void given mind," but it was changed to "void given focus," implying that the the void does have a mind, just a mind without explicit focus or desires.
@victory8928
@victory8928 8 күн бұрын
Thus the shade lord I feel
@hasiumcreeper5384
@hasiumcreeper5384 5 жыл бұрын
"Imprint" might be referring to the fact that it is drawn on stone in a bas-relief. It's not, '[Imprint of the abyss] given form', it's 'Imprint of [the abyss given form]'.
@android19willpwn
@android19willpwn 5 жыл бұрын
even so, "given form" implies that the Abyss didn't do that naturally. That form and behavior was something given to it, which lines up with what we already know about void manipulation.
@hasiumcreeper5384
@hasiumcreeper5384 5 жыл бұрын
@@android19willpwn Exactly. It is not an "Imprint of the Abyss" that is being given form, it is the "Abyss" that is given form. There's no such thing as an "Imprint of the Abyss".
@theelectronic00
@theelectronic00 5 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe how a team of 3 people made a lore this deep and connected
@mallow2902
@mallow2902 5 жыл бұрын
Mossbag: We're here to talk about floor lore. Me: Hmm yes, the floor appears to be made of floor.
@godlastname5249
@godlastname5249 5 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps the lore was made by the floor
@paulinet68
@paulinet68 5 жыл бұрын
@@godlastname5249 that explains why devs' answers are like "Is there a reason?" "Yup". Because the floor made lore.
@ChargeQM
@ChargeQM 4 жыл бұрын
Lore is made of void?
@gamingmoyai3950
@gamingmoyai3950 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChargeQM the void is made of lore.
@FacelessCrowd
@FacelessCrowd 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe the floor is the pale king
@micahjones7837
@micahjones7837 3 жыл бұрын
Ok consider this: maybe the pale king was highly influenced by the design of the ancient kingdom and built stuff in a similar style. He put his palace in the middle of ancient basin, and clearly knew how to access the abyss. Maybe he designed the black egg, shade gates, and maybe even his crown after the ancient civilization, similar to how modern architecture is styled after ancient Greek buildings
@ofgreyhairwaifu4089
@ofgreyhairwaifu4089 5 жыл бұрын
16:22 I'm pretty sure they are talking about you taking on their "voice" as the upgraded shriek.
@destroidhak2556
@destroidhak2556 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be fun to have a DLC of silksong which would allow you to get to the void kingdom, something like the white palace. Like it would be cool to actually get to see how the ancient civilization looked like in its complete glory
@foopi4929
@foopi4929 5 жыл бұрын
weird, my pet rock created and rules over a society of rocks, you should get a new one
@CalzoncilloRojo
@CalzoncilloRojo 5 жыл бұрын
T h a t O n e G u y My pet rock is doing well in its accounting job and writes sci-fi short stories in its spare time. Hopes to someday break that glass ceiling.
@lfestevao
@lfestevao 5 жыл бұрын
Watch out for moth spilling OJ
@isaacgalvan4997
@isaacgalvan4997 5 жыл бұрын
​@@CalzoncilloRojo You know, you could very easily help your pet rock achieve its dream. 1. Pick him up 2. Aim 3. Throw at the glass ceiling
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 5 жыл бұрын
My pet rock made a cure for the common cold, built several orphanages, and now owns a fairly successful Fursuit-making business, yours is definitely broken.
@Chrisdish
@Chrisdish 5 жыл бұрын
My rock single handedly wiped out an entire city and is now stalking people and robbing them of their money and limbs to then sacrifice it to Santa (move the n to the back of the word).
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 5 жыл бұрын
8:42 did you take into consideration that these void tentacles ARE what the knight LETS out when using thorns of agony
@tank19768
@tank19768 5 жыл бұрын
To me the "imprint of Abyss given form" looks like the general shape of a vessel/shade's head - a wider central part topped by two horns with spikes. This seems to be somewhat of a natural form of the void whenever it is given a form - as we see this shape in the void tendrils themselves, the shades, and the shade lord (having four arms also seems to be closer to the void's natural form).
@themockingdragon135
@themockingdragon135 3 жыл бұрын
As best as I can tell the shade lord is the perfect form of what the void should look like as a being on its own, because it combines the appearance of all other instances of void where it wasn't influenced by something else. These features are: -Tendrils that can do some damage. -Multiple eyes. -Lots of spikey bits. The one thing I am uncertain about is the nature of four arms. The Shade Lord has them and so do the kingsmoulds and the Collector (which I'm fairly certain is a defective kingsmould) But the nature of four arms in the latter two is doubtful because the mould that PK seems to have used to make the former and possibly latter has four arms. This suggests that it was either a style choice, or possibly he knew the affinity for four arms the void had and thought it would be useful. Also, one example of void in close to a natural form you didn't mention: Sharp Shadow sprite.
@laharlkent
@laharlkent 3 жыл бұрын
'imprint of Abyss given form' do you mean Cockroaches? That's what I call them.
@calvinjessen6960
@calvinjessen6960 5 жыл бұрын
a dlc where you explore deeper into the abyss by traveling back in time by hitting corpses with the dream nail (then hitting corpses in dreams to go deeper) would be sick. imagine going deeper and deeper and more and more to the right before you end up in the distant kingdoms edge with one of the beasts (the one that you get quick slash at) standing there.
@Caiodindin
@Caiodindin 5 жыл бұрын
The statues in the "abyss shriek room" could also be the imprint of the lingering will of the failed vessels. They failed, so they probably had a voice to cry suffering, and they want to be heard again. If so, Abyss shriek would be a new spell, that the Snail shaman doesn't recognise. I think it makes more sense than a void shaman that's never been to the abyss.
@leafhawkstudiosofficial8711
@leafhawkstudiosofficial8711 3 жыл бұрын
What I find odd, is that Arcane Eggs sport the Seal Of Hallownest. This makes me confused, unless that symbol holds a bigger meaning from before the Pale King and he just snatched it.
@ilydium9477
@ilydium9477 5 жыл бұрын
Team Cherry : After Silksong we are going to stop making games about Hollow Knight. Me : What about Hollow Knight : Ancient Kingdom ?
@codyrathjen9829
@codyrathjen9829 4 жыл бұрын
Or a Quirrel game
@amiakeli2682
@amiakeli2682 4 жыл бұрын
@@muffinhead5569 i agree with your name and idea
@OgreManGaming
@OgreManGaming 4 жыл бұрын
If I don’t get I Zote game, I’ll riot
@FaptaA
@FaptaA 4 жыл бұрын
Ancient king game would be godlike
@mdpitterle
@mdpitterle 4 жыл бұрын
@@codyrathjen9829 this is a beeg yes
@DementedDuskull
@DementedDuskull 5 жыл бұрын
18:10 This totem is missing the unique flooring however, it also doesn't have those winding pillars. I think maybe the workers building The Royal Waterways found it and decided "We don't get paid enough for this" so they built around it.
@flemaster12
@flemaster12 4 жыл бұрын
The void definitely has a voice of its own since it speaks. You can see this from the lore tablets and the voice inside the thrown room.
@thalandor46
@thalandor46 5 жыл бұрын
I think "Are these load bearing corpses?" has just become my new most important question to ask about any fantasy setting.
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 5 жыл бұрын
All piles of corpses exist for a reason.
@scr4932
@scr4932 4 жыл бұрын
@@ManoredRed To bear load
@luccacanopus5333
@luccacanopus5333 3 жыл бұрын
16:51 I love how the shade looks at the knight saying "what are you doing bruh"
@mlfan5986
@mlfan5986 5 жыл бұрын
I know where you live! *Circles Australia*
@elpinchetti
@elpinchetti 5 жыл бұрын
That was the best part xdxd
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 5 жыл бұрын
I am reasonably certain of that 99% of Australia is uninhabitable wasteland, so he only has to stalk in 1% of it.
@VladDascaliuc
@VladDascaliuc 5 жыл бұрын
@@ManoredRed I'm pretty sure that Australia does not exist.
@grangisjefe2564
@grangisjefe2564 5 жыл бұрын
@@VladDascaliuc Cease your investigations now!
@Chris-jk6wd
@Chris-jk6wd 5 жыл бұрын
Team Cherry: You'll be dead before you even reach us
@raemont1328
@raemont1328 5 жыл бұрын
Take a Drink evry Time mossboi says: Void Dark Ancient Kingdom Darkness Civilization
@Definitly-not-Omegon
@Definitly-not-Omegon 2 жыл бұрын
der.... taco, goat chez burber
@residentfacehead3465
@residentfacehead3465 5 жыл бұрын
There is a reference to a "battle of the blackwyrm" in game. Black wyrm HMMMMMM
@simonstewart2514
@simonstewart2514 5 жыл бұрын
Where?
@bombus5665
@bombus5665 5 жыл бұрын
@@simonstewart2514 the dung defender mentions it at some point
@pyxl666
@pyxl666 5 жыл бұрын
That is interesting. I'm playing through again so I'll keep an eye out for that dialogue. But when this battle was mentioned, did Dung Defender mention how long ago it was? It's plausible that this "Black Wyrm" could have died, and much like the Pale King's Wyrm form, became something else....a liquid substance. But that would mean this "Battle of Blackwyrm" happened long before Hallownest existed because we know of the ancient civilization that seemingly worshiped the Void.
@residentfacehead3465
@residentfacehead3465 5 жыл бұрын
@@pyxl666 Its in the hunter journal entry for white defender i think. And it says. that the great knights were involved
@Cherry-bh5py
@Cherry-bh5py 4 жыл бұрын
I think maybe the black wyrm turned into the fool lord or however it was called, and the carcass could have been used as the colesseum proper or maybe they even have a relationship with the snail chamans
@Golden12500
@Golden12500 3 жыл бұрын
I know it was a joke, but Void Plasma does most likely exist. Shade Soul, Descending Dark, and Abyss Shriek all involve massive blasts of an energy form of Void, and the captured Shaman in the Sanctum seemed to be using it as a power source. Perhaps Void Plasma was used in Spells?
@guibeck8259
@guibeck8259 5 жыл бұрын
The Battle of the Black Wyrm, from Dung Defender/White Defender section Well, void is black, and if the temple was made out of a carapace, it may be of a wyrm
@Keyborder1234
@Keyborder1234 5 жыл бұрын
mh... sounds possable good thinking o7
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 5 жыл бұрын
According to mushroom dude, wyrms tend to start kingdoms. Maybe the void kingdom was started by an ancient black wyrm doing something similar to what the Pale King later did? The void could have originated from his power being released from his body after death, similar to how the Pale King's new form allowed him to grant sentience to bugs. If that is the case, the Battle of the Black Wyrm might have been against that previous wyrm's followers, rather than the wyrm itself. Maybe the Pale King was stamping out the last remnants of the ancient kingdom.
@guibeck8259
@guibeck8259 5 жыл бұрын
@@ManoredRed i think the wyrm could have created the void, but not that his death created void
@kerentan9446
@kerentan9446 3 жыл бұрын
goddammit i've been binging mossbag videos and hollow knight videos in general and the more lore i leanr the more it makes me want to live in the world of hollow knight like i know it's all dark and desolate and stuff, but, magic!
@GoriNapalm
@GoriNapalm 5 жыл бұрын
It's been 3000 years.
@rubbish_kat
@rubbish_kat 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought of the void as a force of nature within the world of hollow knight. A violent and dangerous one.
@aCeruleanStateMusic
@aCeruleanStateMusic 5 жыл бұрын
The only channel I have bell notifications for. I literally dropped everything I was doing. You dug deep in this one. Awesome video as always.
@beefoon9517
@beefoon9517 5 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the Snail Shaman, he thinks you met his family when in fact he is (possibly) the only living Shaman in the entirety of Hollow Nest.
@fodens3678
@fodens3678 5 жыл бұрын
"So take everything I say with a grain of salt." No, your words are cannon.
@thiagoene
@thiagoene 9 ай бұрын
“There better be an explanation for this Team Cherry. I know where you live” followed by circling Australia on the map had me laughing out loud.
@dominatornh981
@dominatornh981 5 жыл бұрын
How much longer can Mossbag milk the same game? Fools. This mad lad will continue doing it as long as it takes for Silksong to come out.
@HandmadeGoose97
@HandmadeGoose97 5 жыл бұрын
And even after that he'll still be uploading Hollow Knight vids!!!!
@maksimlikhachov1465
@maksimlikhachov1465 5 жыл бұрын
He did upload some great Cuphead lore.
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 5 жыл бұрын
@@maksimlikhachov1465 There's Cuphead lore? I'd think that game makes itself pretty straightforward.
@voldy3565
@voldy3565 5 жыл бұрын
And then only god can stop him.
@smoldream2908
@smoldream2908 5 жыл бұрын
Manored well look for yourself, it’s the longest video on the channel *wink wink*
@borismateev767
@borismateev767 5 жыл бұрын
9:47 You are a genius, please keep making content. I’m not tired of rewatching your videos, but seeing you post makes me so happy.
@St33ldancer
@St33ldancer 5 жыл бұрын
I have drawn a conclusion. Rick Scott is Void.
@DanS044
@DanS044 Жыл бұрын
8:46 is the single most haunting photo I’ve ever seen in a video dedicated to Hollow Knight
@TeddyTentacle
@TeddyTentacle 5 жыл бұрын
This is such nice content dude, i really appreciate the work and effort! I really love your intros and outros btw. In the intro I always try to guess what will come up and the outro is always unexpected. You have your very own style and somehow it fits the game very well. You don't give straight answers, just clues and speculation, just like hollow knight does, and I love that! Keep it up man!
@mossbag69
@mossbag69 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@LynxD007
@LynxD007 5 жыл бұрын
After Team Cherry feeds us Silksong, I'd die if they bless us with a prequel that takes place during the Ancient Civilization
@iggnifyre6333
@iggnifyre6333 5 жыл бұрын
So either Void can solidify, or it can seep into other solid matter and...infect it? Rock + void = void rock? (+ googly eyes = pet void rock)
@torterranartist4469
@torterranartist4469 5 жыл бұрын
"There better be an explanation for this, Team Cherry. I know where you live" Circles entirety of Oceania.
@AnvilPro100
@AnvilPro100 5 жыл бұрын
I always interpreted the "Void Given Focus" line from the Shade Lord statue to mean that void inherently has some kind of mind and power, it's just too erratic and chaotic to actually do anything with that power. Up until the Godhome pits the Knight against the Absolute Radiance and when the Knight summons the void to finish it off, the void becomes unified enough to actually do things
@matthewfreudenrich6557
@matthewfreudenrich6557 5 жыл бұрын
I think its a good idea to put the general lore video you put in the disclaimer in the description, it will make it easier to reach the video on mobile and such Great video BTW!
@mossbag69
@mossbag69 5 жыл бұрын
The link is a rickroll
@burton5131
@burton5131 5 жыл бұрын
"Anarcho-syndical commune." Breadpilled
@crimsonstrykr
@crimsonstrykr 4 жыл бұрын
Kaiserreich
@zeed8102
@zeed8102 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna like it’s at 69
@skunkbert
@skunkbert 3 жыл бұрын
Kropotkin Knight
@Itryhardder
@Itryhardder 3 жыл бұрын
mossbagg is now a part of breadtube, its canon
@antiproguy
@antiproguy 5 жыл бұрын
I hope the Ben Shapiro flash was a reference to his recent failure to answer some questions without going into whataboutism and quitting the interview on the BBC, because if yes, that is comedy gold right there.
@whalics
@whalics 5 жыл бұрын
mossbag uploaded! christmas came early. ❤️
@archdruidbookwalter951
@archdruidbookwalter951 5 жыл бұрын
but its may. so christmas was really late?
@weebroom6483
@weebroom6483 5 жыл бұрын
@@archdruidbookwalter951 huh? no, Christmas of 2019 not 2018.
@brokevessel9297
@brokevessel9297 4 жыл бұрын
@@weebroom6483 r/wooosh
@gala5439
@gala5439 5 жыл бұрын
God damn it , I typed the link from the intro and its Never Gonna Give You Up...
@Zaliant
@Zaliant 5 жыл бұрын
I find myself obsessed with ancient civilization type stuff so this is right down my alley, thanks for this
@exandil6029
@exandil6029 5 жыл бұрын
Now I wanna play Hollow Knight again. for like the seventh time
@RipJaws1
@RipJaws1 5 жыл бұрын
I think the Void Fountain bug isn't just dreaming about what void is, but is assessing the Knight. I think it recognizes the Void inside of the Knight, and the power it has as the progeny of a Wyrm. And the "Without unity" line refers to the lack of the Void Heart, which "Unifies the void under the bearer's will."
@lasagna3289
@lasagna3289 5 жыл бұрын
13:39 - “Someone had to have made this architecture” Didn’t we just establish that the rocks have a will? 11:54 - mmmm more floor lore
@Tubeytime
@Tubeytime 5 жыл бұрын
You might as well be on Team Cherry's payroll for how much traffic you drive to them.
@brenoferreira7480
@brenoferreira7480 5 жыл бұрын
Mossbag- "Create his channel" Void- I'm gonna support this man's whole career!
@UchihaItachiTsukyomi
@UchihaItachiTsukyomi 5 жыл бұрын
Everytime mossbag uploads a video I'll just prepare a hot mug of coffee and a sandwich because I know I'll be in for a great time. Your videos always make me feel so good Thank you man
@rongpirson5250
@rongpirson5250 2 жыл бұрын
My head canon is that the soul totems are just really hard to break so pk just kinda built around them
@seekyunbounded9273
@seekyunbounded9273 5 жыл бұрын
11:54 could it be the whole contraption of the void gate, just not visible because of it's buried underground?
@PassiveWealth
@PassiveWealth 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! I remember seeing the Shade Beast with the bowl in its outstretched hands and about a split second later thinking to myself "oh hello, Super Metroid" as I jumped happily into the bowl.
@theclawyaww3740
@theclawyaww3740 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro destroyed Hallownest with both facts AND logic. Very SAD!
@Vonias
@Vonias 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro destroys lighttard at Pro-Radiance Rally 2019 (MUST WATCH!!!)
@junoglrr9119
@junoglrr9119 5 жыл бұрын
Epic
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 5 жыл бұрын
What is up with Ben Shapiro, really?
@Novarcharesk
@Novarcharesk 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with some of his opinions, but I still laughed at this.
@thefunkyfish5640
@thefunkyfish5640 5 жыл бұрын
Libtard demolished
@trampoline11x
@trampoline11x 4 жыл бұрын
This game is just to massive. I keep giving in to looking up videos like this in to the game (Note that I have only got as far as defeating the mantis lords). Everytime I get stuck, I wander around the world trying to find a new direction to persue, and most of the time its something I've just missed. But even when I look up these spoiler videos, I am still totally lost. There is just so much I've yet to even find, even more then what ever I end up learning from these videos. This-game-is-huge. Im starting to think its going to take me months just to beat this game. Which is good to consider since I wont try to stay up every night trying to beat it.
@DonkeySock
@DonkeySock 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think Zote calls his his PP “Life Maker”?
@elpinchetti
@elpinchetti 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Zabersud
@Zabersud 5 жыл бұрын
Its canon that he does
@keenan8848
@keenan8848 5 жыл бұрын
Bretta no
@smileyts1151
@smileyts1151 5 жыл бұрын
This is a cursed comment
@DementedDuskull
@DementedDuskull 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Bagel If it's anything like his nail, then it doesn't make life.
@MithermanTech
@MithermanTech Жыл бұрын
I can't believe Rick Scott was defeated by one moth
@sirmilkman
@sirmilkman 5 жыл бұрын
Sigh... I bet Hallownest would’ve been safe if I didnt Have any Łämp
@iwomajewski108
@iwomajewski108 5 жыл бұрын
No chyba nie ten film
@atijohn8135
@atijohn8135 5 жыл бұрын
@@iwomajewski108 no chyba nie ten język
@JARedwolf100
@JARedwolf100 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the void is where the “Essence of Being” the will of sentient thought goes when bugs die and/or don’t cross over into the dream realm. The void is sort of a drag heap basically. The body rots on the surface, the soul pours out air and the essence of being sinks low into the ground where it gathers and becomes a black liquid.
@NicoTheCinderace
@NicoTheCinderace 5 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time you hear "Void." (A shot of void juice, that is)
@egg9709
@egg9709 4 жыл бұрын
you'd replace the hollow knight if you did that
@runedoom
@runedoom 4 жыл бұрын
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@risso2309
@risso2309 5 жыл бұрын
FLOOR LORE Also thank you for finally mentioning the Metroid reference.
@kesthetrashman3090
@kesthetrashman3090 5 жыл бұрын
Stop pressuring your rock to make a kingdom. First you gotta find black juice
@trash1614
@trash1614 5 жыл бұрын
Feed it flex seal
@NKElyan
@NKElyan 4 жыл бұрын
seriously. i am pretty sure i watched this already even if youtube tells me i did not. but whatever. I am watching these videos for your voice alone mossbag. This calms me so effectively. thank you!
@Scloan273
@Scloan273 5 жыл бұрын
Well looks like an abandoned tire in a New Mexico landfill was struck by pink Lightning 5 times in a row because moss bag uploaded another video
@deputydk9112
@deputydk9112 4 жыл бұрын
The rocks in the Ancient Basin / Abyss look an awful lot like snail shells to me, time for an ore lore video.
@ir-dan8524
@ir-dan8524 5 жыл бұрын
I think you looked too far into the Rocks. Remember that Elderbug isn't exactly the most knowledgeable on higher being politics, so him talking about rocks with wills might just be a metaphor for the way that the area looks. Good video nonetheless, liking the style. Silksong lore video when?
@enclavesoldier5737
@enclavesoldier5737 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think he meant that the ancient bugs were so advanced that they could make roads and buildings out of stone as if it had a will
@marzipancutter8144
@marzipancutter8144 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the ancient structures were carved out by void, rather than the rock being void? Void is a liquid, so if it eroded rock like water, the resulting structures would have the fashion of natural rock formations, while also explaining their unique look.
@mrshadrack8554
@mrshadrack8554 3 жыл бұрын
11:31 I know this may be a bit much but I think that the Void didn’t want to kill or harm her because of the relationship so many of the vessels had with her and since they are now apart of the void So I believe that she survived because some of the vessels (The Hollow Knight, and the character you play as) imprinted on the void maybe some kind of compassion? I don’t know but that may be the reason that she is almost never harmed in these endings and is left alone That would honestly be so sweet and maybe will lead to the void becoming an ally?
@lookbehindyourback6910
@lookbehindyourback6910 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure hornet kill all previous vessels before the knight. The one at greenpath is just one of many. Idk how her casual killing spree should be reward as compassion/non existing relationship with the knight/other vessels. She just acknowledge her relations with the knight n hk, never have any bonding/positive loving relationship with any of them. Plus she just use or encourage the knight as tool (ironic like pk n white lady) to fight the radiance by eliminating all vessels come before the knight. Hmm feel shady n kinda morally dubious. So dont understand how certain parts of fandom twist this interaction into fanon so passionately
@doeydays1490
@doeydays1490 Жыл бұрын
my thought is that if everything made of void was absorbed into the void, because she wasn't made of void she wasn't consumed by it/she had the will to not become one with it
@funnyhatsincorporated
@funnyhatsincorporated 5 жыл бұрын
Is RICK SCOTT VOID???!!??!!! Find out next mossbag episode!
@officersoulknight6321
@officersoulknight6321 3 жыл бұрын
9:35 Thanks, I can’t unsee pale king as being a sentient spoon now
@iggnifyre6333
@iggnifyre6333 5 жыл бұрын
Also I'm not joking when I say this, floor lore absolutely blew my mind.
@ManoredRed
@ManoredRed 5 жыл бұрын
He sure pays attention to detail.
@Chorsanoidka
@Chorsanoidka 4 жыл бұрын
sentences I didn't expect to ever hear, much less agree with
@shadowgazer3564
@shadowgazer3564 2 жыл бұрын
love how he says "i know were you live" and circles Australia
@CalavErik
@CalavErik 5 жыл бұрын
What if the void was a Hive Mind, disrupted but reinstated in the presence of a Void Heart? They seem to talk about unity a lot.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 4 жыл бұрын
The void is exactly like the light, in fact it is its metaphysical counterpart. But while light gave rise to numerous powerful creatures (we know of three for certain), void seems to just exist in eternal stagnation, only instincively lashing out at anything that disturbs it.
@reageerbuisje5391
@reageerbuisje5391 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't done/seen anything Hollow Knight in 3 months, hearing the background music (and mossbag's sexy voice) makes me so happy! LY moss, you're awesome!
@lumpyjump584
@lumpyjump584 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I feel I recognize that URL at the start.
@dangerdonkey4383
@dangerdonkey4383 5 жыл бұрын
Mossbag - lore given focus. Throughout this kingdom's history, many philosophers spent their time debating over the nature of the void. Many of them thought staring into the abyss would provide the answers they sought. Inevitably, all they saw was an abyss staring back. -Relic Seeker Lemm
@Enigmxvision
@Enigmxvision 5 жыл бұрын
Yo that's pretty cool mossbag I love commenting before watching the video
@MissBeeBonnet
@MissBeeBonnet 4 жыл бұрын
...Maybe the Void Kingdom’s previous inhabitants are the Void Tendrils? Maybe they, like, flung themselves/sacrificed lives to the Void in order to give it Will and make it workable? That would certainly explain the connection to Soul... Maybe the “our voices will cry out again” even suggests they Fed Themselves to the Void near the fall of their civilization, in an attempt to outlive that fall, and that part of the reason the Void isn’t United is that it’s got so many Wills currently sunk in it?
@milk_choc7889
@milk_choc7889 4 жыл бұрын
"Our voices will cry out again" seems like the Vessels' voices.
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