Most accurate arrow rest alignment in one simple trick.

[@mikemellon80]

This is pretty awesome. Never seen anything like this and watched a lot of videos on bow setups. Good video

[@horkley85]

I had issues with tail wagging for a couple of years now and have been into archery shops, had my bow paper tuned, and nothing fully corrected the issue until I did this. Now my arrows fly straight, I have tight grouping again at every distance, and (after sighting in) my sights and arrow align better both before and after drawing back than they ever have. Thank you so much for sharing! My arrow was a little less off than yours in the video, but the difference it made was incredible!

[@Roddy556]

Nice!

[@louisbailey4900]

Works great Just did it on my Mission MXR,and after setting center shot,I drew my bow and looked thru my peep. I aligned my sight pins with the taped on string. That makes your sight and rest in alignment. Worked perfectly!!

[@richrock3373]

Yes, This is a great place to START to find center-shot then paper tune but, after paper tuning, in my opinion, nothing beats bare shaft tuning.

[@Howe2Live]

I agree but doing this will also help determine how much string influence you may have at full draw. I'll put up another vid soon to explain.

[@donamesevenmatter8019]

Hey thanks for video, great technique to add to my bow tuning arsenal

[@ronhagopian7676]

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE INFO OUT THERE! it makes perfect sense to me! There will always be naysayers but I appreciate your wisdom and your kindness to share!

[@CristiNeagu]

Him: "I'm a scientist." Me: "Yeah, right." Him: "I made up this alignment system." Me: "Still don't believe you're a scientist." Him: "These cams are 3.5mm out of center." Me: "An American using metric? 100% a scientist. I'm convinced."

[@Rumwhiskey]

You work for the pro shop ?🤔

[@bigkountry29]

Umm he has a company called Howe & Howe Technologies….. He created the Ripsaw Tank…… End of Discussion.

[@bigkountry29]

@@RumwhiskeyReady my comment…..

[@Lok56hart]

They did this in the 90’s, it’s a decent starting point but that’s about all it is. Paper tune, walk back tune, and bareshaft is a must for ultimate accuracy.

[@donovanstockton44]

That's brilliant and all the more better as DIY guys can do it at home. Thanks for sharing bossman.

[@ryanreynolds3679]

In a perfect world, that’s a great idea. Problem is most people don’t have properly spined arrows. Start with centershot alignment, don’t always end with it.

[@fernandoramos8393]

That is an awesome way to having a more accurate reference alignment before fine tuning. I tip my hat to you, I'm in the construction trade, I used my green self leveling vertical laser to do the same idea. I got from center of cam to center of cam. I understand, can't always trust when they say that it's ready to go. Thanks for making the video, it helped.

[@keithshelton6017]

Great tip. There is a laser tool that mounts on riser in sight holes. You shoot laser to string at nocking point, then swivel it down the arrow shaft to see if the shaft is in same plane as nock. Your method is the same principle. Thx for the tip.

[@jthepickle7]

Been 20 years since I tuned a new bow...it all comes back to me now!

[@hut5097]

Mike Mike Mike Mike! I LOVE this idea! My bow got knocked out of alignment the other day and I'm going to use your method to check it out! Cheers Brother!

[@dcstolteadventures]

Excellent demonstration. Good start before paper tuning.

[@stefandoering7855]

Big thank you Mike ! I just tuned my arrow rest (was 5mm off) Finding the plane was always I struggled with. Very simple and smart! Well explained, awesome video! And: my groups seams tighter :) Of course after tuning the rest - adjusting the sight :)

[@Howe2Live]

Thanks Stefan:)

[@miggyq2327]

Awesome tip! Just getting into archery and this will come in handy

[@jwild5360]

Yep good place to start and merely just a starting point. Guys have been putting 2 Allen wrenches inside each limb bolt and attaching small bungee cords for ages. The width of the limb bolts spreads the cord enough to run the arrow through the middle without all that measuring and taping. With that said few and far between are bows that tune best with an arrow going dead down the center.

[@f4nt0m45]

Amazing tip! You can also use a laser level to check the whole 'plane' alignement from the front and back (including sight needle) or even instead of the string hack (straight tape all the way also might be easier than taping a string which might need to go over bolts etc,...)

[@jmbauer68]

Cool idea for left right. Kinda like bore sighting a rifle. Probably still should bare shaft tune due to outside factors. But this will save a lot of time.

[@sonnyadams7894]

Exactly the correct way of tuning!

[@dewaynenunley569]

I’m pretty sure my arrow is doing a little tale kick while in flight, I measured off of the riser like you was showing how everyone else does it, but I’ll definitely be giving this new way a try, looks much more accurate.

[@brentlittle2810]

Genius Mike! I'll be using this for setup now.

[@justinferguson5451]

This is the first video i seen on this. I been doing this a year ago, looking at my bow and thought "you would think you could tape a string on the riser . . ." and ding the lightbulb went off. So i been taping sewing thread inline with my string on both cams and setting the rest with a cut arrow to the line

[@stangbanger6445]

Well done. Appreciate it. I'll be doing this tonight

[@bastintripletroubleboys2101]

Thanks, I used a variation of this to get the centre of the rest aligned with the plane of the string, worked well. My bow is 30 years old so the rest is close where the front of your shaft is. Shooting bare shafts the tail is out about 1 - 2 inches at 20 yards both left and right so i am guessing its either my 30 year old shafts or me 30 years out of practice

[@jonnymilitia]

Off by an inch 5ft away is a foot and more the further away your target is. Smart idea.

[@bradfrye8297]

Nice tip bud. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@pensnut08]

Thank so much for this sir!! Love it!

[@lordbwithu3105]

Simply genius my man. I wish I would’ve found this vid when I was still screwing around with compounds. Since giving up the wheels and the gizmos I just walk- back tune with my trad gear. Awesome tip though!

[@goyaae7588]

That's how I set my rest. A buddy of showed me this a couple years back. Can't go wrong

[@jessewilliamson6596]

This is really cool idea. It makes sense to me. This is probably a dumb question but, I get the 3.5 mm off center thing but from which side of the limb pocket do you measure from the left or right, looking from the string side or the riser side?

[@RemedyTalon]

Thanks, I just used this method after a nightmare paper tuning session (it might be my spine).

[@Sertao2013]

If you put a sharp field tip on the end of your short arrow you can line it up to the string you added a lot better or cut your arrow longer than the string and cut out a notch half way into the arrow and move the rest until the center of the cut out touches your line . On just about all the new bows the risers have a flat riser . If you put a square over the center hole and mark the location of the string on the square you can then just flip it over and use the longest arrow you can get like 32 inch arrow and using the longest square you have line the center of the arrow at the very tip to the string mark you made with the string . The longer the arrow tip is from the bow the more accurate your alignment will be . To make thing easy cut the tip of the arrow in half about a 1/2 inch back so when you lower the square down you will know if its in the center or not .

[@85ZERO17]

GOOD STARTING POINT...NOT A BAD PRACTICE TO IMPLEMENT TO GET YOU GOING. BUT IT ALL GOES OUT THE WINDOW ONCE YOU TUNE THE BOW. ESTABLISHING CENTER SHOT IS JUST A STARTING POINT.

[@peem3154]

How you measure that the cams are out of centre? Very interesting your vid, improvment of accuracy expected.

[@yarrabarcreek5708]

I have the same bow, under full draw it was completely out even after doing something similar, ended up been one top limb was pulling down first the fix is the give or take twist on the strings that are either side of the limbs, your looks like the top left is down atm.

[@bradbrandon2506]

Dude that was awesome! Thanks Mike!

[@cubefarmerhkc9105]

That’s genius. I have the same issue. Will try your method.

[@ullysessestoso8904]

Yeah sean outdoor video that's where I've seen thus method before. Pretty good method

[@ApexPredatorOutdoors]

Great vid. Having these issues myself. Good place to start

[@mitchellwilliams4337]

Did you paper tune after doing this.....I agree 100% with it all needing to be in the same plane and it all looks good at rest but I wonder if all remains the same once force is applied and spine deflection comes into play. Not trying to pick apart what you did or call it wrong, just trying to see how well it worked because it could end up being a fool proof method for setting center shot.

[@maxleo7556]

great trick! Thanks!

[@BornN2Grave1]

Some cams/idler wheels need an intentional lean to them so this might not work on all bows.

[@chungyeunglai5606]

Thank you Mr Thank you for your sharing is very useful

[@johnt9490]

Not sure but pro shop might have accounted for torque from cable guard. You are correct about center while bow is at rest. Not sure which will get you closer. Interesting.

[@matthew197735]

I have tried to adjust my sight and my whisker biscuit for 20yrds but still shoots low and sights cant adjust anymore so was thinking it was the rest but might be the knocks thinking about it. any other ideas💡

[@bedwards733]

That is an awesome tip ! Thank you !

[@jmcb5215]

Great for center shot at rest but when at full draw if theres any cam lean its gonna throw

[@fcolmant]

Bloody brilliant, thanks!

[@gandalf2256]

Legend, thanks for this

[@amaroq69]

Plumb bob from the nock point & a level bow would also show whether or not your rest is centered. I like the idea tho.

[@jasonnester9514]

Ur arrow sitting on the rest should run through the center of the limb bolt set it there never move it shin to cams or tweak the yokes then shoot paper boom the bare shaft then walk back just my opinion but I am curious how did u fog out how many mm the cam was off center ?

[@douglasbegnaud1]

Looks like a great idea but, what happens when we draw the bow and the dreaded cable guard induced torque rears its ugly head? Dependent on a fixed or flexible system, this will have significant effect. My Hoyts always tune inside of center to achieve bullet holes when paper tuning along with the yoke tuning and such. I am always looking for a better way and will look at your method. Great video though.

[@Z33Garage]

Worked good for a base setup for me! Thanks man

[@safdarsayyed112]

Sounds logical... awesome

[@moonliteX]

this makes a LOT of sense!

[@moonliteX]

(installing my first bow)

[@Tater4200]

also when you pull your bow to full draw. most bows will flex a tiny bit putting the arrow slightly toward the right. or so i've read

[@Tater4200]

instead of measing then taping the string. why not take the string all the way over the top and tape it to the top of the top cam. then down and tape it the the bottom of the bottom cam. then its strait?

[@catlin-vn1sh]

This solved my fishtail this is an awesome hack.

[@raybabinraybabin7777]

Good observation I’ll have to look at mine when I get to camp I have noticed I had a little tail wag to mine also thanks

[@amc31b]

Interesting. Could you just tie the alignment string to the cams and then run it down the front of the bow?

[@chriscox2555]

Help a brother out, how did you determine that the cams were exactly 3.5mm off center and which direction? Just measurements from the limbs to the center of the cam track?

[@Skittlz2710]

I have a Mathews Halon 32. At full draw, I have cam lean. Would this not make a difference? I think it would.

[@jarogugol5187]

Great video. Thabks

[@davids970]

As long as theres no cam lean it should work,it could be tuned for the cam lean

[@phillipfairbrother4862]

Top tip. many thanks

[@the.reel.mccoy.]

Great vid

[@ozziejim8472]

So would I know on my bow how far my cams are off set?

[@shoot2hunt669]

makes perfect sense thanks man!

[@purplehazenilsp]

Great idea

[@joemurray8902]

Very cool dude!

[@k.g.r.2682]

Brilliant. Would also work with a recurve.

[@alexbetts452]

Many people end up somewhere other than “center shot” after tuning... Center shot is essentially how a hooter shooter would shoot the bow best. everyone torques bows different. Like you and others said it’s a good starting point... in other words many people shoot a tear even on center..

[@Adlautz]

Tried this and it’s a good starting point! The only thing I did different was taped the string to the cams themselves. Also, What sight is that?

[@frogchecker8957]

Shim your cams to bring your strings/cams to your center shot.

[@cdp50359]

Well, explained

[@derekmurphy4096]

Great Video

[@funkytruckermarkstre]

Very good idea. Don't bother measuring your cam offset, just run your reference string from cam to cam and tape it to the cams.

[@Howe2Live]

Maybe you should watch the whole vid 1st before you bash. I say the cams are "3.5mm" offset @ kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ6un6Zvj6adaLM

[@richpara40sw]

great idea..

[@ramsaycountry1177]

And that's with the bow not being drawn, you can throw all that out the window when you put your hand toque into the equation.

[@125min]

There's a phenomenon called Archer's Paradox that explains the tip of the arrow being left of center.

[@iamthehopefulromantic276]

Amazing!

[@rbaisey8628]

THANKS DUDE

[@mathewroberts6124]

Yea your method works. Made my wife shoot better and I just robin hooded my first 2 arrows after using your method

[@jesusgutierrez1209]

What sight are you using on your bow??

[@ullysessestoso8904]

Ive seen this kind of method before from an old KZbin video

[@damirvukelic8087]

Sort of precise-eyeballing the setup.

[@canoradam]

💯/ 💯 thanks!

[@tucker2074]

Thankyou

[@steffenoutdoorswi]

Nice!

[@careyhamil]

Interesting.....

[@Waty8413]

This might be a decent aid to find a starting point, but not so much more than just eyeballing. When you tune, you are not concerned so much about perfect centering or perfect meadurements, the only goal is good arrow flight.

[@mexifri2364]

I have been doing this for years

[@ShreddinSleds]

And imagine how far that arrow was off all the way at the tip! Probably 3/4” or so!

[@anthonymcknight5400]

Ok archers here some tools for you center shot alignment ,golden key center shot alignment tool, OMP laser alignment tool. They range from $15 to $55 dollars. Start tunning your bows. And shoot straight

[@simonleland2873]

Brilliant start but rather than just tapping on the limb, start your string on the cam itself and then tape to the limb.

[@allandoesfish2971]

I just tried it it doesn’t work

[@allandoesfish2971]

Let me tell you why this doesn’t work because your top cam and your bottom cam are 1/4 difference in measurment

[@NONC_CASEY]

slick

[@tonyallen8626]

The reason the pro shop didn't set your rest correctly is because they were been lazy not because it's hard to do, There's plenty of ways to set your rest in the correct position, special in a pro shop and none of them are hard to do.