Most Controversial Gaming Opinions - Kinda Funny Gamescast Ep. 22

[@bobtallman5209]

Controversial opinion - don't use a thumbnail of Mass Effect 2 and then never bring it up in the video.

[@last_gasp2152]

I really enjoy Imrans points! I may not agree with them but he does make great points and cases!

[@captgeech]

For me, The Last of Us did indeed do something that hadn't been done before. And that is emotional attachment to character because of how well the marriage of acting and storytelling worked. I don't think any game had nailed that aspect up to that point, and honestly not too many have done it since. I very rarely give a shit about the story in games, I'm usually a gameplay is king sort of person. But on the story side I had never been that invested in what was going on, on par with a great film. And experiencing what that feels like in a video game was a new and pretty spectacular thing. I would imagine other people feel the same way and thats why it's so highly regarded, not for any stellar gameplay.

[@captgeech]

@@HermanFalckHow i'm sure thats the case for a lot of people too. but yeah for me, personally, I think ME2 and Uncharted have really interesting and entertaining stories, but if I saw them as movies with the same acting I'd think it felt a little on the cheesy side, which would in turn take me out of it a bit. That's me though, I know there are plenty of people that aren't bothered by it at all. In my book TLOU is on a totally different level on that front.

[@boohoo723]

Maybe no other game has done it before to you, but games focused on making you care about emotion attachments have been around since long before The Last of Us.

[@SpaghettiBurritos]

@@captgeech I'm with you here. Of course there have been other games with "emotional" stories but I'm struggling to think of another example that pre-dates last of us that really made it feel movie quality. God of War 2016 is the only other game I can think of that made me feel immersed and wholly invested in the characters from an emotional standpoint.but of course that came after Last of Us.

[@Huckleberry42]

You haven't played many jrpg's then

[@RiceGamesAndCards]

You sure hit that nail on the head.

[@mc9723]

Kevin popping himself in to ask "Wanna show us?" When talking about the anime tiddies poster is the funniest thing I've seen on KF. That shit had me dying.

[@thisisnotreallife20]

OMG hahahaha that was hilarious!

[@RoaringTide]

I agree with Imran *to an extent.* I totally get the feeling that Naughty Dog games can feel safe, especially mechnically. I don't think that makes them bad, I think it just makes them safe - which seems to be where he backpedalled to as well. These games are extemely well crafted and they deliver their vision, even if that vision is sort of vanilla as far as gameplay goes. I don't think every new game *has* to break new ground in gameplay to be considered good. Speaking specifically of TLOU's story though; the plot itself isn't super unusual, and it does contain zombie tropes, but the plot isn't what's impressive. The impressive part is the nuanced characterisation and performances. The subtlety and gradation in the characters, and how their behaviours are depicted against their motivations, is phenomenal. And it mixes lightly with gameplay here and there, such as when Ellie is so emotionally distant she doesn't show up when Joel goes to boost her to a ledge. You might be tempted to say "eh, it's good as far as games go", but if you're including other mediums in the discussion, are we really talking about games anymore? As far as I'm concerned, TLOU at the time - within the gaming medium - had the most "finessed" characterisation and performance I'd ever seen, and that's why it's special IMO.

[@Limerang202]

This is well thought out and articulated. Last of Us isn't for me as a game, but I think you did a great job explaining why you like it. Just wanted to say that!

[@RoaringTide]

@@Limerang202 I appreciate that!

[@ANGELOFDARKification]

Naughty dog games need to innovate gameplay more. Their storytelling and world building and the attention to detail is some of the best in the industry, however their gameplay is just generic at times. Uncharted has basic shooting and gunplay and kill rooms. I do think 4 innovated the way combat worked with its vertical levels and stealth and grappling hook. The last of us also has basic stealth/survival elements but I think it actually works because of the harsh tone and reality of the story. I still think naughty dog are one of the top 3 studios making games right now. I do think they are doing it from the gameplay leaps they are making for the PS4 though.

[@jewsweat6088]

Shut up yes I agree with you about gameplay being pretty simple in previous games. Uncharted 4 did improve on it but I don’t think that franchise ever really needs a complex combat and traversal system. However, I do feel they are striving to improve those aspects of their games, especially after watching the most recent TLOU state of play.

[@boochtron]

not special to me at all. stuff i've seen before

[@iqjdsrt92]

My dude Imran coming strong, I like that!

[@dominicwebb7415]

@@bikiminhas2315 Your copy and pasted comments suck! 🤣🤣

[@captaingrizzly9511]

he ruins this show for me. i cannot stand the guy.

[@murphbri]

Blessing: "BotW is the greatest game of all time." Also Blessing: "The sidequests were boring so I skipped them all."

[@alexanderchilton911]

And those things are not really in so much conflict, IMO. The side quests are optional and not really intrusive.

[@nindo-4270]

Alexander Chilton yeah I played through them all and the definitely aren’t anything special but the game itself is amazing

[@phillipguglielmo]

A great game can still be flawed.

[@ChrisWTube]

I don’t have a problem with ND’s gunplay but if somebody wants to design a game to be purposely inaccurate, they should use a lock-on system similar to The Getaway or old Resident Evil games. Don’t give players the illusion of precision if you want to ultimately hinder it. Also if the ‘health’ system in Uncharted is his luck running out, why use red on the screen. Players will obviously read that as blood, Mirror’s Edge Catalyst’s ‘Focus Shield’ does this alot better and communicates to the player that you are harder to hit in motion and that it isn’t ‘health’.

[@Parmersan]

My unpopular opinion: Persona 5 or NieR: Automata was the best game released in 2017, not Breath of the Wild.

[@dhruvholla9090]

This is just true lmao

[@boochtron]

is that unpopular? both have GREAT consideration to be there

[@mrdan523]

Haha that’s just facts

[@LuminfalVids]

Yet again the podcast is cut short, with the main topic being continued as a paid post show. I’ll repeat what I said last time, I respect and understand the patreon post show. However, continuing the main discussion behind a pay wall is disingenuous to the fans who watch on youtube or podcast services. Tim even mentions how they didnt touch on resetera thread, and only mentioned one each of their own.

[@autigerF7]

#releasethewiiucut

[@epicwolf]

I guess this is what it means for "you get what you paid for". We didnt pay anything even though we support them by subscribing and liking videos and podcast. They want the money. So as much as I dont like it, i understand why they do that. Its a business after all and business is all about making money

[@julianprofas]

Imran is on fire with his BOTW explanation: the game ends when your engagement isn't there anymore. I got burned out of it shortly after release and I never really finished the game before this year when I decided to go back to it and spent quite a long time thinking: "What is this game for me, what are my goals and when does it end?", It took me a while to decide: "I'm going to defeat Ganon after I've discovered and cleared all 120 shrines"...suddenly there's reason to explore yet having it be finite and goal-oriented which is what I needed. I feel like Assassin's Creed Odyssey is the ultimate 'todo-list-o-phile' game and I wish those elements were in BOTW to give it more concrete engagement.

[@metroids224]

BOTW is less than ~5 hours long if you don't do side quest content. It's baffling how highly regarded it is

[@echasketchersjr9189]

but the fact that it isn’t like a Ubisoft checklist game is what made BOTW good imo. It has its problems but they nailed the open world aspects.

[@BatmanTH]

The less Assassin's Creed mechanics and game design in Zelda the better. Don't insult Zelda by suggesting Ubisoft game design ideas.

[@dominicwebb7415]

I feel like the majority of this was Imran making a solid point agree or disagree. Than everyone else not actually refuting his point, instead going to roundabout scenario by trying to explain why his point doesn't really matter. Which is almost literally just motivated reasoning, you already love the game so therefore you will attempt to explain away even the most objective of criticism. Because of bias, which is fine just be aware of it otherwise you come off as disingenuous. Thank you Imran for sparking a good back and forth. 😁👏

[@stevensmileyprod]

I think it's a commonly accepted thing that Last of Us has bad gameplay that isn't fun. The reason people like it is the story. If the story was mediocre, it'd be a bad game. It blew my mind that some of the dudes said it has good game play, even Imran did, although he said the shooting wasn't good, but that is the gameplay, so I'm not sure which is his actual opinion.

[@joshuahan55]

Favorite gamescast in a while, love that this topic gives a lot of meat for discussion

[@markheath14]

A game can be 10/10 even though it's not perfect.

[@GameOverDan]

agreed, no game ever made is absolutely perfect.

[@MikeSW]

@@GameOverDan go

[@stevensmileyprod]

Because perfect doesn't exist. Perfect is an opinion.

[@Conebred]

After hearing what Imran had to say while I was listening to kinda funny gamescast on Spotify I had to stop what I was doing just to follow him in anyway I can on social media. I agreed with much, if not all of what he had to say and I feel like our brains connect when it comes to gaming.

[@jherinstamps6874]

For those too lazy to watch it: Imran- Naughty Dog games aren't that great Greg- Yakuza games are too similar (you played one, you've played them all) Blessing- Journey is overrated Other opinions from the video - Naughty Dog shooting is bad - BOTW is not good and only gets acclaim because it's a Zelda game - Halo: Combat Evolved has aged poorly - Crackdown 3 is a good game - Linear games are bigger than Open World games - Chinatown Wars is the best GTA game - Naughty Dog's overrated and don't feel good to play gameplay wise - MGSV is bad - Kojima games are not fun - Assassin's Creed is the most influential game ever made

[@RobbyGood1]

Tim's hair is BANGIN' right now...like Troy Baker level bangin'... 👌😎

[@mecharobots]

I think botw is not that good and bored me with the empty world . Climbing was alright but to me horizon is a better game because of story , gameplay and how the world works

[@tarekahmed992]

I think BOTW is overrated but so is Horizon

[@Flamerunner451]

I honestly think BotW 2 can improve on like 2 things and be the best game ever. The dungeons in BotW were lackluster and I didn't care about the story but everything else about the game is stellar to me

[@marshall6113]

BOTWs biggest flaw is that it goes out of its way to not be fun. Glass weapons, not climbing in rain, lightning strikes with metal Armor/weapons, Cold areas, Hot areas.It does so many things to prevent you from having a good time

[@imgettingtoooldforthis]

TLOU for me was all about the world and the relationship between Joel and Ellie. The infected were just part of the world not the entire game to me.

[@justinsmith332]

Breath of the Wild is in fact, not as great as the media has made it out to be. Is it a good game? Yes! Is it that amazing? No. Breath of the Wild is Nintendo's version of Assassin's Creed with more mundane tasks like the cooking. The inventory system is a convoluted. You travel around a large world ticking things off lists and opening up the world via towers. You can climb almost anything you see EXCEPT when it rains. Where have we seen these before? That's right Assassin's Creed. Honestly if this game had a different title it wouldn't have gotten the praise it's received. I believe it gets looked at through rose colored glasses because Zelda is in the title. What's even crazier is Blessing says he hates that argument but doesn't even try to build a rebuttal against it. It's still a great game, but not a 10 out of 10 like people have said. I do not agree that it is an empty open world though. In my opinion, controversial or not, BotW wasn't even the best game that year. I can respect everyone for their arguments for or against it but I'd like to have someone who feels like those who agree it's not that great be on a show and go up against someone like Blessing.

[@quentinstone8174]

Mass Effect Andromeda is no less than a good game. Once those gifs of the bad animations came out it was over. It was never given a chance and was deemed trash before it even came out. However it still gives enough Mass Effect vibes, has a good story and interesting crew, solid RPG depth, mechanics, and upgrades people say they missed from ME1, and the best combat in the series. It's in my top 10 of 2017 above Mario Odyssey, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nier Automata, and Resi 7, after getting massive hate every time I defend the game I almost feel embarrassed to admit I have it over those games but sorry not sorry. Also sorry Blessing to keep going after your opinions specifically from last week but 2014 is one of my favorite gaming years of all time: Tropical Freeze, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Wolfenstein: The New Order, Bioshock: Burial at Sea, Alien Isolation, Far Cry 4, Tales From The Borderlands, Transistor Mario Kart 8, The Banner Saga, Smash Bros 4, Dark Souls II, Shadow Of Mordor, Sunset Overdrive, Shovel Knight 15 deep with great games with the top of that list having some of my favorite games of the decade.

[@ThaYungSnow]

I cannot agree more. Mass Effect Andromeda is a good game, people just want to hate on EA and BioWare now. So happy to see someone else in the world who liked Andromeda.

[@joelucasbaker]

Came here to say that Mass Effect Andromeda is a good game and glad that I found someone who agrees. Playing through it now for the first time and it seems like they fixed all the facial animation stuff. Only technical problem I found was with sprinting animations but who cares about that. It's a fun romp and it's strength lies with the crew and exploration which is why I play ME to begin with.

[@tloz171nfs]

Fugggg I forgot Transistor was 2014. AAA gaming outside the Wii U might've been weak, but it was one of my favorite years too. ps: no Bayonetta 2? :o

[@councilornevec8249]

*saw the thumbnail and title* I'm 'bout to get offended. 😂

[@RiceGamesAndCards]

My controversial opinion is the exact opposite of Imrans 😂 God of War and The Last Of Us are the only two perfect video games, top to bottom.

[@LtGrandMaster]

Breath of the Wild is a 8/10 at best. It's not the greatest game off all time by a mile

[@last_gasp2152]

I love Zelda! Every Zelda game... bar BOTW... I enjoyed it but I didn’t love it. I missed the dungeon crawling boss fight frame work they used before... and I don’t care what anyone says! That fucking weapon system in BOTW is bullshit!! Why?! Why would anyone think that’s good idea!

[@philbarton2832]

@@last_gasp2152 Because it incentivises the player to use other weapons

[@mrdan523]

@@philbarton2832 This argument has always been so flawed. Yes it incentivizes the player to use other weapons, but it doesn't do it an a way that's fun. If you want the player to use other weapons, either make the weapons unique and fun or make the weapons have unique strengths.

[@BlazerManiacNumber96]

I bought a Switch just to play BotW because the internet had me convinced it was the greatest thing since handjobs. And after like 10 hours I was just sitting there like "really? *This* is the game you're raving about?" I found it so boring I repackaged my switch and returned it

[@AREAlhero]

Thank you Imran for repping 999, Uchikoshi's work is so underexplored and underrated but it really is some of the best content in the medium. As for my controversial opinion, all the real innovation in games comes from the East and the (often Eastern-inspired) indie scene, Western game development - especially that of the American AAA developers - still manages to not nail mechanics and overall game design strength that their Eastern contemporaries are, and have been doing, for decades.

[@stevensmileyprod]

Well those games are often incredibly buggy and janky. Hence the term eurojank. But the mechanics are usually so deep and unique that you can get past the problems that the games may have. That's assuming we're talking about the same type of games here.

[@StartMenuChannel]

1. Red Dead Redemption 2 is a masterpiece and the greatest story in a video game ever. 2. What happened to Lawbreakers was sad and that game was good. 3. Titanfall is the best franchise EA has. (Though they're probably going to kill it just like Skate) 4. BRINK WASN'T A BAD GAME DAMMIT 5. Greg Miller mentioning Skate 4 at the end of EA Play was a CRIME and I NEED ANSWERS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN GREG?! I KNOW YOU GUYS READ THESE COMMENTS.

[@kevingallagher717]

It’s controversial opinions not stating straight up facts lol.

[@StartMenuChannel]

@@kevingallagher717 i tried 😂 I think the brink one is definitely controversial though, it got sooo much shit. I couldve done more but im not here to argue with anyone, Im here to call out Greg for breaking my heart with the Skate 4 thing lmao

[@Crypt1cCas3]

Here I come with my bullshit. Red Dead 2 is a phenomenal story, but the gameplay makes me want to throw my controller through a wall. To me it’s too restrictive.

[@StartMenuChannel]

@@Crypt1cCas3 I totally respect that arguement, I dont think its bullshit at all lol its very tedious with some things and for some reason, I loved it all. For example, I loved looting a house and having to pick up every single can and item one by one lol idk what's wrong with me.

[@MatthewNovak]

Luke Blackwood I agree with you. The story is perfect, but gameplay is kinda boring. Completely agree about how great Titanfall is, though

[@HypeVectorPrime]

Imron thank you, ND games get way more credit than they deserve, still good, just not amazing like people think, sure the animations and graphics are great but the rest of it was overplayed before it ever came out. Also the ONE unique thing is that instead of zombies they are people with a serious fungal infection, but then I think about it and that's exactly what the flood is from halo.

[@markheath14]

What would you say is an amazing game? I think its just subjective

[@boohoo723]

Imran

[@tarekahmed992]

Opinions are allowed of course but Uncharted 2 had amazing set pieces & felt exhilarating throughout with endearing characters while TLOU had a gut-wrenching world & incredible relationship between Joel and Ellie. Yeah the actual mechanics aren't amazing & maybe the stories aren't completely unique but everything from characters, graphics, set-pieces, story delivery, atmospheric etc. which is crucial for SP narrative games. BTW nearly everything is derivative cos how long movie/games have been around

[@dominicwebb7415]

I'm pretty sure it being overrated to folks like us, has a lot to do with Sony fanboys. They want it to be perfect so they can say Sony is perfect and most importantly to them for whatever reason "better" than whatever they want it to be. Its a childish mentality with literally no value to anyone but the giant corporation but this is the world we live in. Personally no Ps exclusive has motivated me to get the console or even feel like I'm missing out. There are plenty of good/great games but yes most of the 1st party games have an essence that feels generic, not bad but not as amazing as some filks make it out to be. However that's just my opinion I don't get off on attempting to stop people from liking what they like, so don't be triggered if you disagree and hit me with "whatever you like sucks, explain why I'm right" BS. Also notice most of these "controversial opinions" are overrated Sony products.

[@echasketchersjr9189]

Dominic Webb the only must play PS4 exclusives are Bloodborne and Ratchet & Clank. You hit the nail on the head, the Sony library only gets so revered because of deluded fanboys who tie their whole identity to being “Playstation gamers”, which Sony loves I’m sure. Like what you like, but it’s not like the games are objectively great, they’re just competent single player games that capitalize on current trends.

[@nib95]

These kinds of discussions often bring up contradictions in people's takes. For example Imran talks about story tropes, but then loves certain JRPG's, action adventures and so on like Yakuza etc that are full of them. In other words, even based on his own preferences, he should understand it's not narrative innovation that matters, but execution, and ND executes it better than most. To me it seems to me like people like him simply prefer zany, exaggerated or dramatised, unrealistic narratives or characters vs well realised or more grounded ones. I do dislike how he tries to reduce the talent and writing quality that goes into achieving that narrative, characterisation or gameplay quality and competency, as just being down to having lots of money. That's a very reductive and somewhat insulting (to the developers) notion. Countless AAA games have or had similar or even higher dev budgets than TLOU, but still didnt come close in terms of narrative execution or gameplay (Quantum Break, The Order 1886, Call of Duty, Tomb Raider (new ones), Max Payne 3, Halo 4/5, Gears of War 4/5 etc).

[@boochtron]

I like the new tomb raider games way more than the TLOU. i like max payne 3 maybe more, it's close. halo 4 and gears 4 and 5 i LOVE way more than TLOU by a huge margin

[@ShionShinigami]

You're only naming American games. Coincidence?

[@boochtron]

@@ShionShinigami japanese games are awesome

[@seph---]

"Hideo Kojima games are not fun" - Lists puzzling trailers 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Aries73]

In other news, water is still wet, Michael Jordan is still the GOAT, and Saturn still has rings.

[@PANCHO15108]

Kojima makes my fav games. I love all the metal gears and can still play them even now. He'll I even love death stranding. I know they aren't for everyone but I think it's inccorect to say the aren't fun. It just isn't your jam.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

@@PANCHO15108 Everything is fun to someone. However, Kojima games don't really have what people would consider traditionally good gameplay. His games might be fun, but it's not because of the mechanics, its because of all the weird ideas in them, like having to swap controller ports to kill a boss, that's not really "good " gameplay, but people like the fact that his games are just nuts.

[@AdelaideBen1]

And Kojima just can’t write - you could cut up a random page of any sci fi book - jumble the words - and still manage to come up with something more interesting.

[@MangaLuffy]

Agree with Blessing on Journey

[@Caliloki1]

Was I the only one laughing at Tim’s easy adjust movement. 😂😂😂

[@0Gumpy0]

someone make a looping gif of that please haha

[@SourceCZ]

100% reminded me of the office dinner party lmao

[@jamesguerrero3373]

You're not alone. I wish Nick was there to say something about it hahaha

[@dixicastro4686]

Greg miller supports racism and opression of black people do not support this fool

[@auberginedreams00]

Dixi Castro what?

[@Megacon64]

Judging on Imran’s Naughty Dog opinion, knowing the story leaks, I’m VERY interested to see what he makes of TLoU Part 2 now.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

A terrible story is a terrible story, any way you look at it.

[@Megacon64]

biki minhas I don’t agree with him all the time, everyone has a preference, but knowing he doesn’t believe ND have great stories all the time and Part 2 looking to be VERY controversial, just makes me more interested to see his take. I love pretty much all ND games and after reading the leaks it just left me with a sour taste but that’s just me and I’m still curious about all the moments in between the big ones in Part 2 and how it’s going to justify the big ones.

[@Garoth4582]

I feel like gamescast has just become a rushed podcast that never fulfills its topic discussion.

[@DanH-kk4hc]

So many times I get excited about the topic and the next thing I know they are wrapping it up and I'm sitting there going "wait, that's all?". Exactly how much stuff is going to the post-show? The other issue I have is how long they linger on things, kinda without actually saying anything. I feel like I didn't hear a controversial opinion from everyone on the episode, and I was expecting like 5 or 6 per person.

[@ryanwest5179]

I agree with this 1000%. This was such a good topic but each person only revealed 1 controversial opinion they had. Greg even mentioned he made an entire list of opinions and we only heard 1? Gamescasts like this need to be 2 and a half hours long or so. They used to be that long. Not sure why they stopped.

[@stevensmileyprod]

@@ryanwest5179 I'm not sure either, it really sucks. It feels more like a games daily than a full podcast.

[@gjones86]

I agree with Imran in that Naughty Dog games are largely interactive movies - great stories but held together with decent gameplay. Also agree with Blessing that many Sony first-party blockbusters are on-rails, linear experiences.

[@philbarton2832]

And many aren't, spiderman, horizon zero dawn, dreams, bloodborne, all games that are widely regarded as excellent. Ghost of Tshushima too which is looking like it'll probably in the very least be a good game

[@stevensmileyprod]

I dunno man, the gameplay in last of us is pretty bad and often not fun. It just doesn't feel right. Uncharted still can be fun but the gameplay still feels mediocre and has problems.

[@nelsonhamilton8262]

Controversial opinion: Colin used to talk about the Nintendo bump for game scores...I believe this is now more of the case for Sony exclusives.

[@quentinstone8174]

Completely agree, while both great games I think the generic open world elements in Spiderman and Horizon start to get criticized if they're slapped with a Ubi logo instead of Sony.

[@quentinstone8174]

And my controversial opinion that ties directly to yours: Quantum Break goes from a 77 metacritic to 85ish if it's a Sony exclusive instead of a MS released during the peak of internet hate for them.

[@ryanwest5179]

Definitely don’t think it’s “more of the case” for Sony, but definitely present as well. I don’t think a Zelda or a Mario game could come and IGN not give it a 10. Unless there is a glaring, obvious problem with it. I don’t think any Sony games would be guaranteed 10s from IGN. Maybe God of War 2 or The Last of Us Part II. But those games aren’t out yet so who knows. Still agree that Sony gets a bump, but not nearly the same bump as Nintendo.

[@maddoggnick96]

This is KFG Vol. 2, Episode 22 (Episode 274 overall)

[@MikeHeldTheWorld]

My maybe controversial opinion: Far Cry 3 is one of the most influential games of all time and Ubisoft doesn't get enough credit for changing open world games.

[@ryanwest5179]

I don’t know if this is too controversial but it’s definitely not talked about enough!

[@quentinstone8174]

Whether it's controversial or just overlooked, it's completely spot on. The Ubi hate (while sometimes justified) is a blatant bias that often bleeds into reviews, if Assassin's Creed Origins or Odyssey unchanged is released by CD Project, Sony, or some other studio the internet loves right now it immediately gets way more acclaim.

[@Huckleberry42]

Controversial opinion people need to stop comparing every new game with an older game and review it on it's own merits. Also not every game has to be doing something revolutionary we expect way to much. Revolutionary game design's usually only come once or twice per generations and the rest iterates on those ideas.

[@Kalypso_Belador]

This is the Dark Souls of comments........

[@jewsweat6088]

Since when did a game pushing the envelope in terms of graphics and technicality become a negative thing? I don’t know your name (bottom left) but just because you didn’t feel something “special” from uncharted 4, doesn’t mean it’s not a “good game”... whatever you define a good game. Each person has their own opinion, but objectively speaking uncharted 4 is by all means a good game. Even if you don’t connect with those story driven titles, you have to appreciate it’s spectacle, characters, story, fun, tight and fast paced gameplay, which is all it ultimately strives to achieve. Not every game has to be a first person shooter with have pin point accuracy, (I do love these games too), learn to appreciate all types of games for what they are and what they set out to achieve.

[@EveryTimeIDavid]

I can never tell if Blessing is trolling or not. He's got Tim level nostalgia bias, and rarely can explain why he likes what he likes. Edit: Imran also has a lot of hot-takes, but I get the kinds of games that he likes and how his brain works through his explanations. Blessing is just a lot less clear or concise in his explanations, I guess.

[@lexis4490]

This is too controversial for me. I am getting mad, lol.

[@nomoredistraction329]

me, too.

[@ThaYungSnow]

I like how Tim compares everything to Fast and Furious. It’s so ridiculous.

[@Clintamis]

Doing these kind of topics a few times of year is what I'd like to see more of! Really enjoyable.

[@LupusAdNoctem]

I am alive was sick, the gunplay in modern Naughty Dog games has never felt great excluding TLoU _Remastered_ (ty 60fps performance mode), *BOTW is overrated af* , and the fact that MGSV got 10s when it might be more boring and repetitive than every Ubisoft checklist simulator is almost untenable until you look at the gaming landscape and realize that deep stealth mechanics + dynamic enemy AI are two of the rarest commodities in the entire industry.

[@joshharold2658]

Me="Oh whatever I don't get bothered by other people's opinions this episode won't bother me." Literally 5 seconds later=NaUGhTy DOg GaMeS ArENT GoOd

[@echasketchersjr9189]

but they aren’t

[@mikethemosher]

Imran is on another planet with his cold TLOU takes

[@HKISfreak1]

Would loved to have heard what Greg finds "ambitious" about TLOU's story. I agree with Imran that it was incredibly well acted and polished (where the money comes in) which made it seem more "ambitious" than it actually was. And Ellie being gay was in the DLC and not even hinted to in the main game so I don't think that counts. BUT....I think TLOU is underrated in gameplay. I actually loved the game specifically for that and not the story, even though I found that entertaining. It is by far the best survival shooter I've ever played. No other TPS I've played has more satisfying gunplay and more immersive and weighty melee combat

[@mathyouclem]

Some of mine would be... - Breath of the Wild is a good game, but incredibly overrated. - Resident Evil 6 is a good game with arguably the most emotional moments in the entire series. - Mass Effect Andromeda, while flawed, is still a good game. - The stories of Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War (2018) are overrated, and arguably the weaker parts of those games when compared to the gameplay.

[@craigzoch9298]

Hot takes here while I completely disagree with about everything you said here I respect your opinion, Not sure how Horizon or God of War stories are weak or overrated. I would say God of War is obviously stronger than Horizon, but I thought both had very compelling stories.

[@markheath14]

Horizon had an interesting mystery with how the world got f'd up and I liked the reveal but the minute to minute story was just serviceable

[@jherinstamps6874]

Horizon is a tale of two stories to me. The story dealing with Aloy finding out about who she really is and what happened in the past is gripping, but the modern-day story with the different tribes and the conflicts are not that interesting.

[@mathyouclem]

I found the story in Horizon regarding what happened in the past to be intriguing, but Aloy discovering who she was I found convoluted, and the "present day" stuff just felt inconsequential. As for God of War, it's not that I didn't like it, it was good, but I feel it's story was way overhyped by the media. It didn't think it did anything new to the parent/child dynamic that we've seen for years in games like The Last of Us or The Walking Dead except make them gods. The set pieces were huge and cool, but I didn't find the overall story to be anything special.

[@tarekahmed992]

I agree with you on everything (except for RE6 cos I've never played it) especially GoW. Story & characters are overrated; I didn't care for Kratos & Atreus' story cos Kratos is still a bore & nothing made me care for them while I agree the gameplay was so much better

[@HypeVectorPrime]

It's official y'all, June 4th It's goin' down!

[@craigzoch9298]

What is on June 4th?

[@briancarter8490]

@@craigzoch9298 the PS5 reveal conference

[@zodiac909]

@@briancarter8490 Future Of Gaming Conference*** They never said anything about a "reveal of the ps5"

[@zodiac909]

The wait is going to sting...i kinda wish they waited till june 3rd before announcing this.

[@briancarter8490]

Xnx Gaming don’t worry, it’ll be here before u know it

[@johnsantisteban7362]

I agree with the Breath of the Wild takes, it is way too overrated. I also agree with the Kojima takes he worries way more about art then making great games, therefore his games suffer and aren't what they can be. And lastly for my takes, 1.Kingdom Hearts story is nonsense but it's not as confusing as everyone makes it. You just need to play all the games 2. Dark Souls games aren't as hard as everyone makes it. People just have no patience.

[@ethanbowden7256]

Probably going to get shit for this but I thin Imran fundamentally misunderstands the last of us. Also I'm pretty sure he's never read Cormac McCarthy's the road because of his comparison.

[@pspmsn]

Naughty Dog has no excuse for the shooting mechanics in Uncharted to be anything less than great. I'll admit that they kinda got there with UC4 and Lost Legacy, but all Uncharted is is a third person shooter with lots of money behind it. I just feel like they could've been more revolutionary with the shooting as that's what you do for half the game.

[@HusslerkiD]

Gotta agree with that BoTW statement. Very barren and mundane. Some great additions with climb everywhere etc but blown vastly out of proportion.

[@legendofkailia5596]

Wow I am so glad a game like 999 got mentioned here. The story in that game crushes nearly every major AAA release and its not even close.

[@richxsmith72]

Imran is Jared Petty in disguise...

[@joemurray]

Disagree with imran but we all have opinions... I’m not a fan of 2D mario games

[@iCyFlaMeZ96]

I agree with this. Many 2d platformers have more appealing physics to me

[@craigzoch9298]

Me and Imran are like night and Day as I think Naughty dog is my Favorite developer and I think they make the best games and are a league above everyone else ( except for maybe Santa Monica Studios and Rockstar ).

[@AndreAckermann]

Both Imran and Greg mention missing certain aspects of two games' gameplay mechanics or systems. This made me think of the recent Playstation patent for "helpful" AI in-game. This seems like the perfect situation, especially in today's age when you're distracted by your phone or something during gameplay or explanations of mechanics, for the Sony AI assistant to pop up a little later to nudge to if you haven't used a newly introduced mechanic. This will definitely help in those situations where a game feels like it's stagnating when in fact the player is just missing a certain newly introduced mechanic.

[@ChrisWTube]

Breath Of The Wild is just ok, 6/10.

[@henryjb46]

That was a great show. I love the sitting on the couch talking video games with your friends vibe. I miss those days.

[@sachin72767]

My controversial opinions 1. Bioshock infinite is the best bioshock game. 2. Metro exodus is the worst in the series. 3. Red dead redemption 2's realism hurts the fun of the game. 4. Call of duty modern warfare (2019) is the best call of duty since black ops 2. 5. Bethesda's fallout games( not just 76) are boring.

[@kylerpolson4811]

I agree whole heartedly with number 5.

[@captgeech]

you had me until dark souls. one i especially agree with though, i never understood the outrage for the tank in arkham knight. i thought it was generally pretty fun, it might have been just a tiny bit too much of it in the story missions, but it wasn't an excessive amount.

[@LeanneMustafa]

Here are my gaming controversies: 1. Xenoblade 2 isn't just goty 2017, but it's also by far the best switch game, followed by mario and rabbids and then botw at third place 2. Star Fox Adventures is the best in the series. It might not be a "real starfox game", but it's a better zelda game than most zelda games. I love windwaker and ocarina of time so much, but if I'm completely honest, i would take Star Fox Adventures any day of the week. 3. Daemon x Machina hori pad are the best switch controllers. The game sucks ass but the controller is legendary. 4. I love the ps1 classic 5. Ps3 is my favorite sony home system

[@Limerang202]

Xenoblade 2 is total GOTY 2017! :D picking up my Xenoblade 1 today as well!

[@ltw126]

My controversial gaming opinions: We need less open world games We need more linear games Ubisoft games are all the same The 3rd person perspective will always be better than the first person perspective Turn-based rpg’s are not real gameplay Most games don’t need to be longer than 25hrs Nintendo is an overrated company that gets too many free passes from the gaming press and it’s fan base MGS:The Phantom Pain was garbage!!!

[@julianprofas]

I wouldn't say Ubisoft games are all the same. I'd reverse it; Assassin's Creed is all Ubisoft games. Assassin's Creed is basically: Splinter Cell + Prince of Persia + Ghost Recon + Watch Dogs + The Division

[@ryans.1900]

The fact that Imran got a Palutena poster has made him my new favorite member of the Kinda Funny crew

[@BLonsdale912]

Breath of the Wild is a boring game with no story. Horizon Zero Dawn significantly better

[@vibechecks1987]

Hell no, botw keeps you engaged thru its environment

[@Emjayography]

what there is a story lol someone didn't not pay attention

[@BLonsdale912]

@@vibechecks1987 I tried three different times to get into the game. Couldn't pay for more than a few hours each time before getting bored

[@BLonsdale912]

@@Emjayography of course there is literally a story. I meant just a boring and uninspired one. I played it after playing Horizon, which to me had an incredibly compelling story that kept me wanting to know what happened. So compared to that, BotW had no story

[@RajBauer]

As a huge MGS fan I completely agree about MGS5 being the worst. I once again disagree with blessing. MGS3 and 4 both have way better stealth and I completely agree it is a jack of all trades and master of none. I put that game down after about 8 missions. I’m sad MGS went out on such a whimper honestly

[@amiadfredman]

Thank you!!! I also thought the stealth in 4 was way better.

[@ItalianStallion219]

These are some of my controversial gaming opinions 1. Assassins creed odyssey isn’t a good game. 2. Nintendo gets way too many passes and they don’t release anything new just the same game over and over with a reskin (Pokémon especially) and just rely on nostalgia to get you to buy there games 3. The Witcher 3 isn’t as great as people say it’s good not great. 4. Kojima games aren’t that spectacular weird doesn’t mean it’s good. 5. Ubisoft gets way too much hate 6. Pc and console gamers aren’t as different as they think console gamers want connivence pc gamers want graphics that’s the only difference. Pc needs consoles and vise versa the war is dumb and let people play on a platform that they want. 7. Infamous is one of the best first party Sony games. 8. Red dead 2 is fine but it’s realistic take on gameplay hurt the fun of it.

[@Doug_Hannon]

While Imran is right that the Last of Us doesn't create new ground narratively, I don't think this should negatively impact its quality much. Very very few stories are "ambitious" in such a way that they do something really and truly new. Virtually all stories are iterative. At least for me, how much I enjoy a story is rarely impacted by how novel it feels. I've read plenty of weird experimental fiction (English major) that did have all kinds of crazy story structure, or other things that DID truly push the envelope. And while they were often very interesting, none of them have stuck with me the way the Last of Us has. I think much of this is because of the medium that the Last of Us's story is delivered in. The characters and the world impacted me because of how cohesive the details were, how smartly written the dialogue was, and how, as a player, I experienced the journey with the characters, whether scared in the snow, or feeling the emotional respite with the giraffes afterword. The visuals, acting, graphics and music all came together to create this, and not all of it is "story" in the strictest sense. However, the quality with which it was delivered together was incredibly effective in a way that WAS groundbreaking for games. I also do agree with Imran and Blessing's point that Naughty Dog games dictate how their played. They are like theme park attractions in some ways. They are showy thrill rides, but they are very linear. I remember steal thing my way through the encounter after the Hotel in The Last of Us and the game straight up broke because the player was supposed to be spotted so that Ellie could help with the rifle. I do think the systems, such as they are, are really fun. Despite aiming being a tad floatier than some shooters, I enjoyed the enemy encounters in all the Naughty Dog games. However, if the gunplay was all there was to these games, they would be 7's and not 10's. It is certainly all the other stuff I discussed above that makes Naughty Dog one of my favorite developers.

[@p0rn0saur]

it's so funny watching the Sony Ponies flip out on this one

[@jesusgonzalez-ji6cm]

Blessing, so much room for activities

[@thisisnotreallife20]

Is it the lighting, or a coating on Blessing's glasses, that make the lenses look hazy on camera?

[@TheSasuke73]

Seriously though as someone who never played a Zelda before BotW I found it suuuuuuper boring. I've tried 3 times to get into it and all 3 times I fell off. I got maybe 8 hours in at the most. I don't get what's fun about it

[@TheSasuke73]

Same problem with Shaodw of the Colossus. I got half way and was so bored I gave up

[@nindo-4270]

I’ve never played a Zelda before and dumped 350 hours into that game

[@imtoddhowardandimadeskyrim6553]

Unpopular opinion: bioshock Infinite is better than the original bioshock

[@MatthewNovak]

I'm Todd Howard and I made Skyrim fridge edition THANK YOU!

[@KingMayuke]

Imran was trying so hard not to say overrated even tho that's exactly what he meant

[@patratcan]

Honest talk: couldn't the company get blessing a chair too? Lol

[@dvkgaming5863]

Ok here we go, unpopular opinions: 1. Kingdom Hearts 3 was not a disappointment and is one of the best in the series (there were WAY too many trailers tho). 2. BOTW is not in the top 5 zelda games, tho fun it can get rather boring. 3. The Witcher 3 wasn’t that good to me and it is way too long of a game.

[@AllThatJuice-]

GTA shooting is janky, to the point that it literally requires lock-on, Naughty Dog shooting works fine mostly and does its job, it just doesn't feel particularly special or polished, wouldn't call it janky though as that implies bad/broken.

[@lokithor99]

You lured me in with the mass effect clickbait to let me down without mentioning it but I still enjoyed the video

[@Peekz1025]

I wish there were less write-ins and more takes from the KF crew. I come to this podcast to listen to their opinions, not to hear their thoughts on someone else's bad opinions lol. they should either extend to show to an hour and a half or save the write-ins for the post show

[@SuperBeybladerocks]

Bet Bet 1. Pokemon isn't a good franchise 2. Nintendo gets way too many passes 3. Dark soul-ish combat sucks in a lot of games and doesn't work all the time 4. RDR2's story was great until chapter 5. 5. BOTW is a great game but the world low-key is bland af 6. Twilight Princess > OoT 7. Quantum Break is a good game 8. Sony has a great lineup of exclusives but should diversify their portfolio 9. Halo hasn't really been good since 3 10. God of War is the best game this gen and is top 5 all time. 11. The Witcher 3's combat is sluggish at times and has a bunch of fetch quests that gets ignored for how good the story is. 12. Bethesda RPG's aren't good 13. Arkham Trilogy is more influential than BOTW, Dark Souls, and The Witcher. 14. Besides 1, Bioshock isn't good 15. Persona franchise is overrated 16. Modern Warfare 2019 is the best cod since MW2 17. Xbox's first-party line up has the potential to be great 18. Devs make games for consoles more than PC and really PC games wouldn't exist without console gaming in current times.

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

As someone who is a massive Dark Souls fan, I think the problem isn't that the combat doesn't work for most games, but just that it's often not done as well as it could be. For instance, Assassins Creed Origins and Odyssey have Dark Souls combat, but things like dodging, parrying etc just don't feel as good as in From Software's games. Its things like that which a lot of developers can't seem to get right.

[@SuperBeybladerocks]

@@BasketCase-rr7tx while I can see why you say that, I feel that dark souls combat really only works for those types of games and the whole dodge and parry system is great when it has its own twist like GOW which does have DS inspiration but it's extremely refined to the point where I like it better than DS III combat. Also I don't think DS combat is as intuitive really, but from software really out did themselves with Sekiro which was as rewarding as was challenging.

[@E2you]

Halo’s significance is the shift it brought. We hadn’t had coop as a key part of a shooter on a console in a while. Felt like it hadn’t been since side scrollers that coop was a big deal among the biggest of titles. Coop campaign at that time just was huge. Then factor in its when LAN parties for consoles really took off. I had fire fighter friends who bought an Xbox and Halo so when they were at the fire station they wouldn’t get whooped during their LAN parties while they waited for a call. Dudes who hadn’t played video games since Atari were now spending hours on practicing to be able to beat co-workers. Have to remember the context of the time period.

[@mickyd3509]

007 Nightfire is the best Bond game. Facts

[@BasketCase-rr7tx]

Nah, Bloodstone is.

[@Siferzion]

Greg, I bought I Am Alive several years ago because the trailer had always intrigued me. I think I got an hour or so in. It just kept missing the mark. You're 100% right dude!

[@Limerang202]

1: Last of us (1) is overall a boring game that relies on Naughty Dogs (excellent!) writing to make it a passable overall experience. 2: Breath of the Wild (as a big Nintendo fan) isn't even in the top 5 best Zelda games. Similar to Last of Us, it's kind of boring and OK but overall a passable experience. 3: 343 hasn't made a bad Halo game 4: Kojima games are a mess and get way too many passes 5: Donkey Kong games are all significantly better than Mario games 6: Sony needs to branch out the genres it's 1st party companies make, all their major releases share similar (not identical) design elements and gameplay. 7: Microsoft as well ^ 8: All 1st party games tend to get passes and bonus points in reviews not just Nintendo. 9: If Apple, Google, and Amazon ACTUALLY decide to throw their weight into the gaming scene (and not just dip a toe in) Sony and Nintendo will form a partnership to stay relevant. Neither have the finances to play ball with the (4) trillion $ companies. 10: Kameo 2 could have been a great Zelda competitor.

[@tloz171nfs]

These might be opinions, but you're absolutely right especially 1&2

[@prestonphillips473]

I now want your number 9 to come true. Please unite the kingdoms of Sony, Microsoft and Nintento to make the Nintendo X Station. Google seems to be struggling still so I would guess Amazon would have to come in swinging to really scare the consoles. Apple is going to stay mobile, I would be surprised if they ever branch out.

[@jakep148]

Gotta agree with Blessing on the Journey take lol

[@amiadfredman]

I literally don't get it. Does anyone agree with me regarding MGS5?? I wish I liked it.

[@DanV900]

Two of the most over rated games ever are Red Dead Redemption 2 and BOTW. RDR2 has boring gameplay and awful pacing for its story while BOTW is aimless with a bad story. It gets too much credit honestly.

[@philbarton2832]

RDR2's story overall is pretty great but like with all open world games it naturally suffers with the pacing but what makes it great is the characters and their arcs, the writing and the performances. BOTW's narrative is secondary and no one really plays it for the story. On the face of it it's the classic land in turmoil, hero comes to save it from big bad but it has great environmental storytelling which is what I enjoy more personally.

[@adamf6158]

Great Episode! But not ad-free...

[@MichaelGalardiOfficial]

I agree with Imran regarding TLOU. I really like the game, but to deny that so much of its value comes from the production being so expensive, feels purposefully misleading. There are better game stories that didn’t have Sony writing blank checks. I feel the same about Marvel. I love both properties the same

[@CommanderAusbo]

BOTW is not a good video game. Combat mechanics, story and weapon system was awful. No real dungeons. Not controversial

[@philbarton2832]

Unprecedented freedom, revolutionary climbing mechanic, masterful environmental design, beautiful visuals, unrivalled experimentation with combat, fantastic physics

[@CommanderAusbo]

@@philbarton2832 climbing was so irritating. It would always seem to rain and then I would slide all the way back after climbing for 10 minutes. The only thing Ill give you is the visuals were great. Unprecedented freedom? Sounds like marketing speak. Its open world, so most have "unprecedented freedom".

[@Arno_TG]

As a playstation fan id say that halo CE has aged very well, even did a whole retrospective on the series on my channel and while something's weren't my cup of tea, the gameplay was still fun

[@simtheslayer]

I love open world games, but I feel like Zelda is open world where you can see alot but do little, all the shrines really feel similar and not that different, and I feel like they can do so much more with the story,

[@ryanwest5179]

My Controversial Opinions: 1. Breath of the Wild is a 7 out of 10 video game. The game IS empty and in a bad way. Because there isn’t anything to do a lot of the time. There aren’t enough things inbetween shrines to keep me invested. There are just guardians, enemy camps and terrain. What I craved in BotW was the shrines. But right when I started to have a good time in a shrine... it was over and I had to spend another 30 minutes looking for another. BotW needed traditional dungeons or make me feel like I’m doing dungeon-like things inbetween shrines. Also, the weapons breaking sucks. Happens way too often. 2. Naughty Dog games are good, but no great. And definitely not amazing masterpieces. Uncharted is boring. The characters are cool and the story is fine, but the gameplay is so boring. The characters and story don’t do enough to make this okay. I just think the Uncharted games are the epitome of a 7/10 first party game. The Last of Us is much better, but still not a 10/10 for me. Great story and characters, but again the gameplay is just fine. So much time is spent slowly walking to find a ladder to put against a wall, or getting a pallet for Ellie to cross water. The Last of Us is an 8-8.5 out of 10 game. 3. Kingdom Hearts II is not a great game and it is significantly worse a game than the original Kingdom Hearts. Kingdom Hearts II changes the battle system from an engaging action RPG to an incredibly easy button masher. I literally closed my eyes during battles and just mashed X and came out victorious. Kingdom Hearts II also changes into a linear experience. It doesn’t allow you to explore your favorite Disney world like the first game did. Instead, it’s just narrow pathways with hordes of heartless sprinkled throughout. There’s also the horrid 2 hour beginning as Roxas. The only aspect of KHII that I’ll give it over the original is the camera. They fixed the camera. But that’s it. 4. Not sure if this is controversial or not but, Red Dead Redemption II is the most impressive video game to date. It has so many systems working at once and has an active, living and breathing world whether you’re interacting with it or not. It somehow manages to do all of this without any of it feeling gimmicky. It’s so incredibly dynamic in almost every aspect of the game. It’s the greatest achievement in game design.

[@Emjayography]

you mean getting all 900 seeds?

[@Emjayography]

and a hundreds of shrines

[@DanV900]

There is one thing that you are leaving out with Red Dead Redemption 2 which is that the gameplay is slow and clunky while feeling last gen. It’s an impressive open world, but awful to play.

[@ryanwest5179]

DanV900 I don’t believe it’s clunky at all. It is very slow though. But that’s intentional. Rockstar made the game knowing it wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea. Some don’t like the mundane tasks and riding a horse for 5-10 minutes to reach your destination. I personally love it. Although that’s just my opinion and not necessarily associated with my controversial one.

[@ryanwest5179]

Emjayography I said that I enjoyed the shrines. Best part of the game. But just as a shrine gets going, it’s over. And I spend another 30ish minutes searching for another. It’s why I wish the game had traditional dungeons so that I’d have as much fun as I had in a shrine for more than just 3 minutes at a time. But yeah, I don’t really feel like finding the 900 seeds is something of great fun to do inbetween these shrines. They’re just... there. And you get a shitty(pun intended) reward for finding them all. I’ve tried to love Breath of the Wild 3 separate times now. The most recent time I played about 25 hours according to my Switch’s game clock. Didn’t love the majority of my time in any attempt. Although I don’t think the game was bad, just not great by any means imo. Definitely in the bottom tier of Zelda games if I were to personally rank them.

[@Andrew-kr7ks]

1. Gen 6 of pokemon was the best generation of pokemon even though it added less pokemon and was easier than previous games. It was a good transition into 3D animations and the pokemon they added were all great compared to gen 5 that added alot, but weren't as high quality. But maybe that's just my nostalgia talking. 2. The Kirby franchise is overated and shouldn't be treated as a huge franchise. It shows through the sales and ratings, I haven't heard people say remember that Kirby game that was awesome, its always people that say, remember that Kirby game that was mediocre. 3. Kid Icarus is most interesting and charming nintendo franchise idk if these are even controversial but hey

[@CheefChaos]

* PlayStation got off easy from media about how many broken PS2 were actually out there. They refused to fix mine, I met a game crazy employee who said he went though 12+ PS2's

[@philbarton2832]

@@saberzer094 The red ring of death is still spoken about. Man Microsoft really effed up with that

[@DoingOK]

Am I the only one that wishes they would let these be longer? I feel like they had so much more to talk about and ended just cuz they’d passed an hour. I get scheduling can be a bitch tho and they put out a lot of content.

[@MatthewNovak]

DoingOK I agree. It’s weird to me that PSILY goes for 2.5 hours but Gamescast can barely go over an hour.

[@ki700]

Would love to see more of this topic in the future!

[@MangaLuffy]

Mine would be I HATE DLC for games and will never play them even for games I love like Spiderman and Horizon, if its not on the disc I don't play it. Plus having to download 50-100GB for games on disc is unacceptable.

[@julianprofas]

BRUH, I'M SO WITH YOU. usually I play games at release and never go back but when it's something I missed and pick up the GOTY, that's the only way to get me to play DLC.

[@bendecidospr]

My controversial opinion, which I didn’t have time to offer on patreon, is that Kingdom Hearts 1 is the best of the series. I think KH 2 was a terrible drop from the first, with little to no exploration or story, wonder and magic. KH2 was all about combat. Thats pretty much all you did: fight and watch cutscenes. KH1 felt like a world (worlds) I was exploring, had heart, and a sense of Disney magic. KH2 tried to be too epic and dark, and lost its sense of wonder. Plus, it never felt like a direct sequel to 1. I always thought KH2 was going to be about finding Mickey from wherever he got trapped at the end of the first one, and that never happened.

[@julianprofas]

1. 2D SONIC GAMES are based on a flawed concept and don't work (namely: running through the level as fast as you can while by definition you can't even see what's on the screen to react to it (limited viewport / limited framerate).) 2. 3D Games that have manual Camera Right Control stick CAN NOT have a bad camera, it's basically just the player that doesn't know how to position the camera while playing. (though there is a minor aspect of the camera having a hitbox and getting stuck) 3. Games should generally not have a sprint button, it's the reason we've invented control stick...and if they need to have a sprint function, FFS don't ever put it on the face buttons because you can never sprint and position the camera properly. 4. 2D GTA games blow 3D GTA games out of the water. 3D GTA games all have mediocre game mechanics with a great sandbox and fun story. 5. All Pokemon games are the same game since '97 and don't even make an effort to forward the series mostly because they print money. 6. Mass Effect (1) is such a bad game that I'm genuinely astonished this game got positive buzz, sales and a sequel. (even if me2/3 are some of the best games that generation and maybe even of all time)

[@markheath14]

I can almost agree to this but the 2d games weren't really made so you can easily run through everything. Its rewarding moments of speed punctuated with platforming

[@civenful]

Number 2 is insane - go play Mario sunshine x

[@mitchellkenneth3854]

I love all the salty Imran haters that can't handle opinions that differ from their own. Stories aren't important to me but are a nice bonus if the game is good enough. If I had played TLOU before 3 Uncharted games and every other game that it took gameplay ideas from(Audibly laughed at the detective vision) I would have enjoyed it more. That and zombies( I know not technically zombies) is a turn off for me. I played several hours and just got bored tbh. Finished the story on KZbin. TLOU 2 looks more interesting on the gameplay side so I'll give it a shot when its on a good sale. P.S. I think I am the only one that likes the flood in Halo. That section is a little long I admit but I loved how it changed up the gameplay from a more cover based approach to a more arena style shooter like Doom or Quake. It was a nice shake up. I played the first one again recently on Game Pass. I think it still holds up well for the style of game it is. But I also remember the era before ADS was the norm so...