most EXPENSIVE boat UPGRADE | Ep.69

[@yusufsahilli]

miss you guys

[@seethelittlethings]

Miss you too 😘

[@ElviajedeBohemia]

Coming back to this after a few years… I remember when you inspired me to go sailing and now I’m reviewing to install my own. Cheers guys

[@seethelittlethings]

Congrats 🥂

[@jacksprat3009]

Love the video because it shows how even people who are not engineers can do big jobs, maybe somewhat slower than a professional, but with patience, care and good attitudes, do just as well, plus now you know how it works. Congratulations to you both!

[@seethelittlethings]

Thanks Jack! Pretty well said! We were a bit slower, but eh we got more time than money anyways;) and If you go slow and think well you can a get a lot done without messing up (mostly 😬)

[@marcojuarezreichert]

Great job, volks. I was wondering how important and helpfull this video would be for thousands of sailors, all over the world. Congrats"!

[@svfuerte850]

Beautiful! Couples that do boat projects together stay together 😃

[@SVZonda]

Your faces from the start to the finish....... from fear to joy!! It’s not just the little things that make you happy.... it’s the big achievements too! Well done! All the best Richard

[@jonnorousseau3096]

It's a no brainer, as you concluded, I've just ordered one for my steel Van De Stadt 34' just the safety aspect of the auxiliary rudder is a massive factor, seconly there is no wear on your steering gear when in use unlike the servo pendulum vanes, I'm a tiller steered boat so that's not a major factor, mine is 4K including shipping to SA. Can't wait for it to arrive. Just to add to that the service from Will, John and the team at Hydrovane is absolutely fantastic. Kirsten Neuschaffer from South Africa, who is the only female entrant for the 2022 GGR has chosen hydrovane for her boat, for exactly the abovementioned reasons. If servo pendulum vanes are your preference then your two obvious choices are Aries and Scanmar's Monitor, the monitor is probably the best heavy weather vane for control and accuracy of steering but the differences between them are nominal, I have a Scanmar Pelagic autopilot which is by a stretch the best electrical autopilot on the market and if Scanmar made an auxiliary rudder vane that would probably have been my choice. But as far as auxiliary rudder vanes go HYDROVANE is the Rolls Royce. The Pelagic works brilliantly so I'm excited to compare the two, I'm doing a solo Atlantic crossing from Cape Town to Grenada in November of 2021 (based on the plandemic being less restrictive) and won't leave the dock without Heidi as well as the Pelagic and a redundant autohelm tiller pilot, It's as much a safety item as my liferaft and EPIRB. Great upgrade

[@SamuelKTennis]

Outstanding work team - and reading the manual twice - great advise.

[@cbpaton53]

... very impressed with the way you guys work together, you complement each other :)

[@rudijano1466]

You are so great guys! Thanks A lot.

[@scubaseas1]

Nice job! Use blue Loctite 242 on threads to prevent galling (stainless nuts and bolts like to weld themselves together). Also use TefGel or similar to electrically isolate the bolts. Or use nylon washers. Dissimilar metals + salt water= battery/corrosion. Keep an eye on the interior aluminum backing plates to make sure they are rusting away. Loctite 242 and TefGel are two things no boat should be without. Have fun tuning the vane in. It's sensitive to sail trim but if you can get the boat balanced (i.e. no or little weather helm) they work amazingly well and require no electricity. What name will you have for it?

[@marcboriss187]

If you squeese out the whole sikaflex, there is nothing left for the bond. Don’t tighten the screws up to much. After it has dried out you can tighten the nuts up a bit more for a realy stabile connection. Sikaflex don’t need pressiere for bonding. Other then that great job and very sattisfying watching 😉 Liebe Grüsse aus München Marc

[@tomvoorneveld]

That's exactly what i wanted to contribute. Awesome video but polyurethane kit is not the same as glue such as epoxy. This means: do not squeeze but let it settle. Especially on the inside you want a flexible layer as otherwise the aluminium backing plate will guarantee to cause polyester cracks at the corners...

[@bestfriendsrving-sailing8329]

You folks did an awesome job of explaining and showing the installation and then showing how it works. Thanks so much for sharing. All the best from Ontario Canada.

[@paulcorrigan8227]

Great work guys. We can really relate to the anxiety and nervousness when doing these jobs for the first time. It gives us the confidence to do things too. Most established sailing channels have experienced owners now who appear to be undaunted by any task. It’s fantastic to see the sadness of drilling holes into your precious boat turn to joy when it all works out. Always look forward to your next video!

[@viplole]

Klasse Video danke

[@man-with-handle]

I'll second that - an awesome and very well made video 👍

[@h3llrayzor59]

I'm super impressed you Guys did the install over the Water! I was literally holding my breath the whole time. Well.... Almost 😉 Nicely done. Looks awesome & glad to see it works so good. Thanks for another awesome Video! Cheers 🍻

[@slzerdaddy]

I agree. You protected the big things, but I could just see me dropping bolts, tools, etc...

[@seethelittlethings]

I (Alex) haven't seen the edit until Mandy finished it and I got scared when we took out the strut after measuring and it made the screechy sound. I really thought s%& something fell.

[@MultiJchu]

Good job !! Super video !! Bravo !!!

[@seethelittlethings]

Thanks James 🥂🙏

[@DirkJacobsz]

Lovely piece of kit - well done - now install a tiller autopilot on to it... uses less juice than your big autopilot....and hey presto Hydro wins the day.. ours took us over the Indian Ocean...

[@327365hp]

Nicely done!

[@albertfunk1176]

Very nice how you communicate in German in critical moments, also the meticulous examination of the manuals speaks for itself. Thank you for the very well-done video!

[@joecucch8261]

I'm sure you will be very satisfied with the new addition to your crew. It eats very little, just some wind on passage. And gives you many extra hours to catch up on every thing else that needs constant attention and care against wear and tare. Happy sailing !!

[@tetraskele9621]

Subscribed. You guys offer more interesting and informational content than most. Well edited too. Good job!

[@seethelittlethings]

Thanks :)

[@johnmayer3433]

Well done! I 've used an Aries wind vane on my previous boat (34 ft van de Stadt) and it never failed me. Even when a lot of electrical power can be made available nowadays I still prefer a wind vane over an electrical autopilot, no noise, no constant sorrow about battery capacity left in long passages, much higher reliability. When listening to your talking during the installation I was reminded that Mandy also speaks excellently German. Have you ever thought about doing a German version of your vlogs, maybe just using voice over technique ?

[@petereisch7613]

Very nicely presented walk-through of the install.

[@seethelittlethings]

thanks :)

[@birddogmason9862]

Outstanding video, love listening to your native language conversations. Love the wind vane.

[@seethelittlethings]

Danke!

[@pacificnorthwestacct8791]

So awesome. We have a Hydrovane and love it.

[@tabbycowley5825]

really interesting to watch, well done guys x

[@seethelittlethings]

Thanks Tabby! 🌹❤️

[@davidking1501]

it has been suggested that countersinking the holes on the gelcoat side helps to prevent future cracking of the gelcoat

[@crikycrocky]

Awesom Job and great work on the production. I think your progress towards the status of fully qualified shipwrights is proceeding along very well.

[@lahoozer6694]

Future reference, lubricate/cool the bolt/nylock as you tighten.. A water bottle stream or even spit works; I have impacted/drill tightened stainless while cooling with water. Either way, nice install

[@dwtrksvc]

Speaking of seeing the little things, I thought I almost saw a little smile when you guys finished installing your new wind vane. Congratulations guys...love to see you both smile! 😁

[@dm5374]

Great video! I used to own a 393 Clipper, so you even brought some nostalgia! Though I would never had the courage to drill into the transom like you people..!

[@stewieuk1276]

Ok, ignore my previous question. I went back to the beginning videos and was enlightened. Great video and I subscribed. Stay safe!

[@seethelittlethings]

Mostly English 😁😁 but yeah German for us both and Alex understands Dutch, but he’s a bit shy speaking it. So I just sometimes ramble on in Dutch and he gets half of it 😂😂 Welcome to the channel! Happy you like the vids!

[@tommybrown9034]

Top Job .... Necessity is the mother of all inventions.

[@music-man]

Great Job guys looks really good. cheers.

[@VAdu56]

In principle, we do not put a steel, aluminum or stainless steel plate directly behind a fiberglass panel, because it can shear, and completely cut the place....!! we first put a wooden plate wider (serving as a shock absorber, then the steel plate...!! this also applies to the installation of the windlass at the front of the boat...but congratulations on your installation... you have installed this in a superbly conscientious way... Bravo !! your boat is made in France, 250 km from my home... Beneteau...!!

[@garyeast8851]

Well done guys.... Nice install.

[@buckshot3052]

What a great video. I actually felt happy just watching!

[@kenpole1840]

You should check whether the wire-ties are UV-resistant. White ones generally become brittle; UV-resistant ones are usually black. That said, nice job. 🇨🇦⛵️

[@gerardoosio]

Very good video

[@gavichay]

Beauty of hard work .

[@clayfarnet970]

Well done guys. Y’all some salty Dawgs. Having a back up rudder will be comforting while sailing the deep blue. What are you going to name your new crew member? I looked up the inventors name, Derek Daniels. I nominate, Lt Dan. It’s part Daniels and Lt Dan of Forest Gump fame. Always in the right place at the right time. 👍👍👍

[@brucebyrnes125]

Great video! I’ve owned a Beneteau 361 for 19 years and always wondered how hard it would be to install a wind vane given the shape of the stern. Thanks so much. We are hoping to go from coastal cruising to more extended cruising and you have inspired me to try to install one on my 361.

[@seethelittlethings]

Amazing! We got the idea from sailing Bacchus :) also the upcoming installations are more or less a copy of what they did to their 361 and it just works great. If you’re looking for more inspiration check out „beneteau 361 owners group“ on Facebook 🙂

[@klemenprezelj]

Hmmm,i could use s recepy for that pozza dow 😉

[@SailingStormvogel2]

So cool. We want to do the same upgrades on our Oceanis 361 Clipper for our future adventures. Thanks for sharing!

[@seethelittlethings]

Nice! We took 90% of what Bacchus did and it works great 😊. Saw your boat on beneteau 361 owners group. Great people there

[@SailingStormvogel2]

@@seethelittlethings yes we have watched their vlogs to.

[@japemerson684]

Great decision and as always loved the video of the installation. Be well and press on!

[@ChasingCurrents]

You guys smashed it, looks like such a brilliant piece of equipment 😁. Jades going to try the pizza recipe soon as well 😋. Take care

[@alofns]

Great video. Thanks. I get a brain cramp trying to figure out how the hydrovane rudder works in relation to the boat's rudder. Can't wait to see it in action. Oh yah...i love your taste in music. Great edit...thanks again.

[@edwardfinn4141]

The “ Hydrovane” unlike most other windvane s, does not use the boats rudder at all, it works independent of the main rudder, For some users, that is its strongest feature...

[@jonnorousseau3096]

You just balance the boat, sails and helm, on a desired course and POS and lock your helm or tiller, engage the vane and thats it.

[@jonnorousseau3096]

@@edwardfinn4141 100%, added to the safety of a second rudder and emergency steerage you can sail for 100's 1000's of miles with zero wear on your ships steering gear, reducing maintenance, increasing lifespan and that's a big deal

[@jonnorousseau3096]

@@edwardfinn4141 PS I've jyst ordered one for my steel Van De Stadt 34' which I'll be crossing the Atlantic from Cape Town to Grenada solo in November

[@randallthrift1249]

Like button is always clicked before the video starts. :-) Happy sailing with your new crewmate and night time watch. :-)

[@johnhaywood6358]

Great video. Thank you for sharing ❤️

[@anthonybeck2384]

Outstanding work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@bevanhill5648]

Love your videos guys . Keep up the great work. Bevan Australia

[@Mechone11]

I'm sure you have watched Sailing Bacchus Home , hydovane 361 beneteau sailed it from England to New Zealand Cheers from Canada .You have made my comment at the beginning ,I have to learn to watch the whole video ..LOL

[@DougVarble]

Fun project!

[@nige8575]

Just about to install my Hydrovane, great video, well done

[@richardholbrook9681]

Freedom at it's best.

[@cecilpacetti1491]

Not to make you jealous or anything but on Sailing Wave Rover he had designed and built his own windvane. I don't know what he paid in materials but I doubt it came close to what it would cost you or me to buy one. Hope you have a lot of good fortune with it.

[@Shaz-on-Adventure]

Awesome episode

[@roymacgregor2817]

We had our first installation of a Hydrovane that touched our gantry. Looking at your video I wonder if you couldn’t mount the red vane the other way round sticking out rather than in towards the cockpit. I could send you a photo to illustrate?

[@davidnichols213]

well done guys well done

[@dougsrepair1060]

You both work together so well. Congratulations to the new addition. Well done. Except for one thing, uncle Doug would like you wear safety glasses when using power tools. Protect your beautiful eyes.

[@cliffmainor4255]

Very nicely done! One question: can't you orient the vane 180 degrees and avoid the bimini collision?

[@billb48843]

might want to reverse some of those bolts so the excess thread is away from you as you get into and out of the boat. Those threads can be knife sharp and cut legs, thighs, feet, etc. Experience - been there done that, especially in rough seas.

[@carlray7224]

Was watching Sailing Zingaro and just happened to spy EXPENSIVE in the 'recommends' and curiosity got the better of me. How good was that! Most enjoyable and isn't Mandy fearless - wasn't going to give up the drill lol! Looks like a really good bit of kit and appreciate you showing the Hydrovane in action at the end. Who were the guy / guys we caught a glimpse of on the dock helping out? Now subscribed to my first German sailing channel.

[@dreadnoughtb3364]

Good video again and your still happy speaking to each other after a successful install 👍 even pizza

[@secondstartotheright]

Wonderful video guys ! Sika flex is amazing stuff im a journeyman bridge builder and we use that on bridges, docks, and warfs

[@kayloren63]

Great video again. Truly inspirational! Thx!

[@sailingtroublemaker]

Uau guys this is such an amazing upgrade, you should be so super happy!!! Congratulations!!!

[@trevhedges]

Thanks guys!

[@sharonb6751]

Totally want he recipe for the pizza!! Another fab video x

[@joeltatham5673]

Fantastic! I’ve got a quote for Kalypso’s Hydrovane and this is really helpful. Thanks! How difficult is it to trim the sails so the hydrovane is able to steer successfully? Are there angles of sail that don’t work well”

[@stewartmay2478]

Use the remote adjuster to rotate the vane sail through 180 degrees. Counter balance should be toward the cockpit. Leading edge of sail will no longer conflict with the Bimini. Check out the Hydrovane videos on KZbin. Cheers

[@seethelittlethings]

that will result in the rudder moving in the exact opposite direction of where it is supposed to. The leading needs to be.. leading. A touch is not the end of the world, for as long as the deflection is big enough

[@stewartmay2478]

@@seethelittlethings hydrovane.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Installation-Guide-April-2017.pdf look at page 19 of the guide. Deflection will turn the rudder not rotation of the sail, your sail is back to front.

[@acevedolc]

Bravo!

[@vernholmes7940]

Job well done! Now you have another person on deck!

[@michaelcarron3418]

Yes, Beer crust pizza, good weather vane install video. UV rays and salt will age that Vane-sail., what is the backup replacement for it?

[@seethelittlethings]

Storing it in the cabin so it’s outside for 30 days a year :)

[@walterthielmann2421]

Ach Ihr seid so erfrischend☀️

[@christianwinkelmann8477]

Hi , well done . Is there no sealant around the bolts needed? Are you guys using alt of pils Bier for the pizza 🍕? Thanks..

[@seethelittlethings]

Hey Chris, any beer works :) and yes we probably should have added some sealant around the spacers

[@michaelandrijolic548]

Respekt, dass ihr die Windfahne selbst montiert habt. Ist bestimmt ein komisches Gefühl, Löcher in sein Boot zu bohren. Schön, euch mal deutsch sprechen zu hören. Habt ihr zufällig einen Link zu euem Pizzarezept? Meine Pfannenpizza ist nicht so knusprig.....

[@freeholdtacticalmed]

I have five boxes from Hydrovane sitting in my aft cabin. I need to find a place to sit down and install it...

[@svamanda2319]

where are you moored? i'll help

[@freeholdtacticalmed]

I’m currently in Fajardo PR. Will be launching and shifting the boat to St Thomas USVI. I’d love the help! Use [e-mail]

[@svamanda2319]

@@freeholdtacticalmed Ouch OK, a little too far, I'm in the UK but I would have loved to see one being put into action, Thanks, Paul

[@BillChild2njoy]

Great episode... nice job on the installation. And that pizza looks amazing. Maybe you could start a business at the anchorages.. anyway looks fantastic. And you two are wonderful.

[@SailingABSea]

It looks like you have a Raymarine E80 chart plotter in your cockpit. Why do you use a phone to navigate?

[@TroyaE117]

Keep a close eye on the pins that lock the rudder. Unless they have been upgraded they tend to bend when motoring. Fair winds.

[@seethelittlethings]

Thanks ! But we always take the rudder off when not using it, it makes it harder to steer. And it makes the rudder dirtier than necessary when it's in the water all the time.

[@richardsims8556]

A great piece of equipment! Those Canadians really know what they’re doing! Congrats on picking the good one.

[@thefullmonte1902]

You dug deep into your German engineering genes there - and it worked! Great job and great instructional. So what are you going to use all that extra electricity for? 😉

[@nealeburgess6756]

Making pizzas of course!

[@jonnorousseau3096]

Hydrovane is a Canadian based company that manufacturers in the UK.

[@seethelittlethings]

good question... hot showers 🥂

[@Quartz331]

nice vlog 🥇🥇🥇

[@bobrose7900]

What is all this proxy nut and shaft... you refer to it as a "dummy" Hahaa, great video and nice to see you both smiling at the end. Pizza looked nice too! Gel coated GRP is very difficult to drill as it's so hard so well done, a result...

[@mikesimic3787]

Awesome video, Ill b that guy, Alex not only do those safety glasses protect your hair, if u pull them down, they will protect your eyes too.

[@johnshobbies4224]

My two favorite dependents 😃. Awesome video. Read the manual twice, blonde translation = looked at pictures 🙈. It looks like a really useful upgrade. So, how many tools fell in the water 😀. The pizza looks really good. Take care of yourselves and stay safe.💪🏻👩🏼👙⛵️🤷🏼‍♂️🍻🌲

[@seethelittlethings]

we cut all the lost-to-sea wrenches. Editing makes us look like we got s%&t figured out!

[@johnshobbies4224]

@@seethelittlethings 22:58 somebody almost went for a swim 😃

[@peterfrebold]

.... know very little about them but think you made a good choice .... like the secondary rudder idea .... good thinking using the PVC pipe .... great you were able to fit it sorta off to one side .... laughed when you Mandy said it was necessary to be in the little cubby for and extended period so the nuts didn't' get hot .. you look like you are having a whale of a time on your 4 day Atlantic run .... laughing .. but just have to ask, is the level different when you are standing on the sugar scoop to when you are standing on the dock .. smilin .... another great peek into your lives .. thx for sharing .. as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ....

[@rldukes5729]

Mandy, your tan looks awesome! Alex, ok... 😏 Fair winds guys!

[@paulreading8980]

I have to say that I am not convinced the bulkhead is strong enough even with that backing plate. I would keep a close eye out for stress cracks before undertaking a long journey. It would not be too difficult to strengthen it and may save a while load of trouble and you could straighten it at the same time.

[@Cedandkikisailing]

Great 👍 video of your installation. A few laughs too. Great 🍕 uhm!

[@weedknoll]

Could tell two things. 1. You didn't know what you were doing. 2. You can figure out things that you don't know. Awesome job! Looks a little daunting. And looks like something intelligent people can figure out. If they're not too daunted.

[@sailingmimar]

well done with the fitting 🙂 I just have to ask. why not use white Sika?

[@seethelittlethings]

Chandlers in La Linea didn’t feel like white was a good color to have in stock 🤷‍♂️

[@Senior-Busa-Rider]

Bravo 🦅🇺🇸🦅

[@skulijakobsson5116]

Adorable.

[@carlos17098]

How did you Plan the windvane? Doesnt it have to ne centered in the middle behind the rudder?

[@marioracicot3699]

Not the hydrovane. It doesn’t.

[@marciogoncalves8821]

Good 😃😁

[@crestfallengooner]

Very interesting, thanks. One thing I'm not sure I heard correctly, did you say that Gib is GST free "IF YOU ARE RENTING THE BOAT"

[@seethelittlethings]

No if’s. Gibraltar has no VAT

[@seethelittlethings]

And you can pick it up and take it without importing IF you are a yacht in transit :)

[@crestfallengooner]

@@seethelittlethings Thanks guys. Sure I understand tax in Gib, it was just that I thought you said if you are renting the boat. I played that section back twice & that is how it sounds. Bon Voyage.

[@KeithCarmichaelInFL]

Way to tackle the install!