Most Underrated Skill Of Each GOAT

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Jonny Arnett

Jonny Arnett

10 ай бұрын

An explanation of the most underrated trait of each GOAT candidate.
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@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 10 ай бұрын
What's an underrated skill of a Superstar player?
@dolcengabana6066
@dolcengabana6066 10 ай бұрын
Shaqs 3-pointer
@masterpvper9464
@masterpvper9464 10 ай бұрын
Hey there
@josesilveriomarquesneto2581
@josesilveriomarquesneto2581 10 ай бұрын
Michael jordan's passing is hella underrated
@crosscourtpass
@crosscourtpass 10 ай бұрын
Wilt's passing
@mphosethong5210
@mphosethong5210 10 ай бұрын
2 Hakeem s defense and Kobe s passing
@kaiserrino8774
@kaiserrino8774 10 ай бұрын
Everybody mentions the 50 average or the 100 point game. But Wilts 48.5 minutes per game in Chuck Taylor's is the most underrated accomplishment imo.
@zbxlt292
@zbxlt292 10 ай бұрын
Fr bros feet had to be curling up like a rollie pollie after every game
@doginaboat3756
@doginaboat3756 10 ай бұрын
exactly what I would have picked too, his stamina is so alien and legendary and totally unable to replicate, it's what makes him the #1 for me
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 10 ай бұрын
Those shoes actually made feet stronger. That's why they have Wemby working out barefoot.
@phillykid512
@phillykid512 10 ай бұрын
You left out, him smashing 10 chicks a night and still having the stamina to play all game long
@joejett5084
@joejett5084 10 ай бұрын
…and never fouled out
@chocamocha4541
@chocamocha4541 10 ай бұрын
MJ's Playmaking is so overlooked
@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326
@jahbrilplaysgamesandstuff326 10 ай бұрын
Cause its usually compared with lebrons never appreciated
@Matthew-xl5bc
@Matthew-xl5bc 10 ай бұрын
People who know ball recognize MJ is one of the greatest playmakers ever.
@chrilpy
@chrilpy 10 ай бұрын
A lot of people think that demanding the ball in the clutch makes you a ballhog, but it’s exactly what your best scorers are supposed to do
@T.H.E.O.R.Y.
@T.H.E.O.R.Y. 10 ай бұрын
Superrrrr. The 91 NBA Finals he out assisted none other than *Earvin Magic Johnson.* Sadly, Jonny overlooked that concerning Jordan's overlooked skill in this video. It's even worse when you consider that Jordan's defense is seldom if ever overlooked in the context of his game, as opposed to the non-bucket parts of the offensive side of his game. In light of his earlier rap of being considered as a ball hog or non-winner due to his lack of passing, for him to average over 5 assists for his career -compared to Bron's 7 - is criminal.
@madisonbordenave4869
@madisonbordenave4869 10 ай бұрын
Was about to comment this. Prime MJ is a top 3 playmaker amongst the goat candidates. People conflate playmaking and passing and thinks he lags behind because he wasn’t on their level as a passer, but as a playmaker he’s one of the best. Still a very good to great passer tho
@michaelnoel9998
@michaelnoel9998 10 ай бұрын
I think John Stockton's defense is criminally underrated. Everyone talks about his assist totals which are astounding and he is so ridiculously above second place. But he is also the career leader in steals and that isn't close either.
@phillipcummings3518
@phillipcummings3518 10 ай бұрын
I think it's because the best players in that era also played great defense.
@jetsfan2theMAX
@jetsfan2theMAX 10 ай бұрын
Stockton is all around underrated. would’ve been the goat if it weren’t for mike
@jooyichen
@jooyichen 10 ай бұрын
Basically, everyone in the 90's is underrated ( except MJ ). Well, that's because that era was dominated by MJ and his Bulls. Some would even call it a weak era. It's a chicken-and-egg problem when it comes to Lebron vs MJ. It's a better competition because everyone got an award over Lebron. Its a weak era because MJ got an award over everybody around him.
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 10 ай бұрын
@@jooyichen there is no problem with lebron-mj, no sane person takes a weak minded baller over a killer
@thescarfguy
@thescarfguy 10 ай бұрын
​@@notimportant3686I have MJ over Lebron, but don't insult LBJ. This video literally just went over how clutch lebron is.
@centerofstar
@centerofstar 10 ай бұрын
Before Johnny release part 2, here are my thoughts of other legend's underrated skill Kobe Bryant- Playmaking Tim Duncan- Athleticism in his prime years Shaq- Passing Hakeem- Stealing and perimeter Defence Steph Curry- Scoring inside the arc
@xtrasolido
@xtrasolido 10 ай бұрын
Duuuude, you called it!
@centerofstar
@centerofstar 10 ай бұрын
​@@xtrasolido Yeah, I'm kinda surprise by that
@etcheverrypanpi2753
@etcheverrypanpi2753 10 ай бұрын
For stephen curry, i think its his amazing ability to score in the paint. For Jordan it could be playmaking ability too besides of blocking shots..For Kobe, i cant wait your analysis
@kriswillman2779
@kriswillman2779 10 ай бұрын
Its gotta be defense for Kobe given it's rarely discussed or perhaps his passing skills
@akeme25
@akeme25 10 ай бұрын
For Kobe it’s definitely his passing skills
@codyeble6764
@codyeble6764 10 ай бұрын
I think it'll be his passing, his defense is pretty well known.. but I remember he played my Cavs in the twilight of his career and had like 19 assists, literally picked us apart.. Cavs still won but he made it much closer than it was supposed to be with his passing
@zesevic5322
@zesevic5322 10 ай бұрын
For me Curry was passing, i love Curry passing ability more than his 3pts shoot
@johncambridge7181
@johncambridge7181 10 ай бұрын
Curry’s stamina is underrated too. In his mid 30s he always runs off the ball non stop
@bowmanencore
@bowmanencore 10 ай бұрын
Great idea for a video. Incredible that Russell stood a real chance of winning gold at the Olympics but focused on basketball instead.
@catherinelynnfraser2001
@catherinelynnfraser2001 10 ай бұрын
Bill was an astonishing athlete
@savastevanovic
@savastevanovic 10 ай бұрын
He did win gold in those same Olympics, in basketball of course.
@ernesthader1109
@ernesthader1109 10 ай бұрын
Nowadays we only have athletic basketball players. Back then, Bill Russell is a true blue athlete playing basketball. Aside from high jump, he's also run the 400yrds.
@aviecenna8579
@aviecenna8579 10 ай бұрын
Russell's passing is also overlooked. He was in the top 5 of the league twice, without dominating the ball the way Wilt did
@thebxsavage
@thebxsavage 10 ай бұрын
@jonnyarnett I think Wilt Chamberlain is now the most underrated basketball player ever. People would rather undermine and discount the entire league during that time rather than give this man credit for what he accomplished
@thebxsavage
@thebxsavage 10 ай бұрын
@@slywerk5070 If a team gets the #1 pick in the NBA Draft, the team is usually (always) very bad. Almost ALL HIGHLY DRAFTED rookies and young players "play for some crappy teams to start their career". Unless you are Tim Duncan and come in at the same time a HOF Center is coming off injury... or you get drafted to a team that recently traded for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.... your early career teams aren't going to be world beaters. That's a silly thing to hold against someone... Jordan/LeBron were also on some crappy teams at the start of their career. It comes with the territory of going to a team with the #1/#3 pick. Furthermore, I didn't call him "The greatest" I called him The MOST UNDERRATED... You seem eager to bash this man.. you're arguing points I never made... seems like you're one of those guys I mentioned that goes out of their way to undermine him.
@thebxsavage
@thebxsavage 10 ай бұрын
@@slywerk5070 Celtics had a MINIMUM of 6 and a maximum of 9 HOFers on the roster for every single year of the dynasty. Saying Wilt "only" overcame Bill once is a sick narrative to spin. It wasn't just "Bill"... The fact that Wilt interrupted an 8-PEAT to break up what would have been 11 STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS by that team (that stayed to gather every year because of no free agency) was astounding in and of itself. If you can name me the 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 HOFers that Wilt had on his side to go to war with when he was facing those Celtics then we can start to have a legitimate discussion... but they don't exist...
@thebxsavage
@thebxsavage 10 ай бұрын
@@slywerk5070 no idea why you’re talking about Skip, never mentioned him. I am a fan, because he’s a great underrated player, nothing wrong with that. Once again, you can say what you want, but please name the 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 HOFers that Wilt played with when he went up against the MINIMUM 6 HOFers on the Celts every year. The facts are the facts and they are pretty clear. Basketball is a TEAM sport and no one man beats a GREAT team. That’s a SILLY thing to hold against an INDIVIDUAL
@antipro4483
@antipro4483 10 ай бұрын
​@@thebxsavageon the warriors: Al Attles, Guy Rodgers, Tom Gola, Nate Thurmond and Paul Arizin (all HoF) On the 76ers: Larry Costello, Hal Greer, Billy Cunningham, Chet Walker (Bill Melchionni, Red Kerr (not HoF but 3 time all star)) On the Lakers: Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Gail Goodrich and more all star roleplayers
@cobra7282
@cobra7282 2 ай бұрын
Easy modern comparison that shows how good Wilt was is Dwight Howard. Wilt was bigger, stronger and at least as athletic as Dwight while also having a bigger array of basketball skills IMO. Safe to say that if he was playing at the same time he would have been the better player and Dwight in his prime was winning DPOYs and coming close to winning MVPs.
@jp3813
@jp3813 10 ай бұрын
I remember watching an episode of "Open Court", and on the subject of some of the best ball handlers, I think it was Reggie Miller who brought up Magic. Yet he got dismissed by the rest of the panel. Which is crazy to me especially since I also recall seeing a video highlight of Magic constantly dribbling coast-to-coast against the Sixers and Barkley was visibly upset that they couldn't stop him.
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 10 ай бұрын
Whilst his handles are underrated, he isn’t in the convo of best handle ever
@jp3813
@jp3813 10 ай бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 That's why he's underrated. Likely b/c most people think of handles as crossovers from half court. Magic's are about going coast-to-coast, between-the-legs, behind-the-back, spinning, shakin' & bakin' (his own words), etc...
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored 10 ай бұрын
It is because people (novice) considering ball handling as doing million crossovers and behind the back dribbles, when ball handling is simply protecting the ball
@jp3813
@jp3813 10 ай бұрын
@@truthiscensored More than protection, it's also about creating offense. Hence, "showtime".
@pigs6486
@pigs6486 10 ай бұрын
Magic's ball handling combined with his size is truly all-time. If we want to talk about small guys with quicker handles, then Isaiah has anybody today covered.
@ralph.aguinaldomd
@ralph.aguinaldomd 10 ай бұрын
MJ's shot blocking is part of the reason why he won DPOY and has nine 1st team all defense. People forget how good a playmaker he could be especially when he played point guard.
@Zett76
@Zett76 10 ай бұрын
He was a great stealer, too.
@patjenkins1308
@patjenkins1308 10 ай бұрын
10 triple doubles in 11 games at one point
@edowino
@edowino 10 ай бұрын
It is underrated in comparison to other greats, MJ had over 100 blocks per season twice in his career, Bron has never had a single season with over 100 blocks
@jaylenflanagan1295
@jaylenflanagan1295 10 ай бұрын
@@edowinoYu want a 🍪?
@Zett76
@Zett76 10 ай бұрын
@@IsayahH-xm7ql Religion is like a dick. It‘s a very fine thing, but nobody wants you to shove it other people's throats, without being asked. By the way: Rabbi Jeshua is dead.
@bigpharmasports9120
@bigpharmasports9120 10 ай бұрын
I was thinking jordan's ball control, palming ability. It really made him a magician with how he handled the ball, often times confounding defenders without even dribbling once.
@a-a-rondavis9438
@a-a-rondavis9438 10 ай бұрын
Well his hands were catcher's mitts. I think the width of his hands were like 11.5" or something ridiculous.
@alex4833
@alex4833 10 ай бұрын
Bil Russell's leaping ability is amazing. I've seen that video of him leaping over the defender before, but am in awe each time I see it. Awesome video, Jonny. I'd say that Jordan and Wade are two of the top shot blocking guards of all time. Hope you have a great week!
@ltrigga219
@ltrigga219 10 ай бұрын
Crazy good stats on this one. I knew Larry was a mean defender, but I forgot he almost won DPOY. And Russell being an Olympic champion-level high jumper is still mind-bending.
@thetruthstand
@thetruthstand 10 ай бұрын
I still remember Larry Bird stealing Isiah Thomas inbound pass in the playoffs. He swooped in quickly. He came out of nowhere.
@kevinhouse4376
@kevinhouse4376 9 ай бұрын
Bird's steal of that pass was the best defensive play I've ever seen.
@semaj1077
@semaj1077 10 ай бұрын
This channel is dope and should reach 1M subscribers in a month. He comes up with unique and fascinating topics instead of just comparing MJ to LBJ 7 days a week. Keep it up brother
@Posesso
@Posesso 10 ай бұрын
Shaq, the calm when being fouled. Indescribable and the contrast with the energy during the game... gold
@jamiekelley4076
@jamiekelley4076 10 ай бұрын
Love this list. I would add Michael Jordan's Offensive Rebounding. He has to be one of the all time greatest offensive rebounding guards.
@BenjaminFranklinFF1706
@BenjaminFranklinFF1706 10 ай бұрын
# FACTS
@beminem
@beminem 10 ай бұрын
God bless this man for posting while I'm at my boring office job
@_M....
@_M.... 10 ай бұрын
MJ was an underated rebounder as a perimeter player, especially offensive boards. another underrated aspect of MJ was his durability. he is the only one of these all time greats to play all 82 games 9 times in a career. also, in his 6 title seasons only issed 6 total games(?).
@michaelthreepeat
@michaelthreepeat 10 ай бұрын
I read Bill Russel 70's autobiography and there is actually a moment in which he recalls jumping and looking inside the rim, from above, Gerrald Green style. So much for plumbers and firemen.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, when people say “plumbers”, they generally mean the average player
@phillipcummings3518
@phillipcummings3518 10 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan-A.C. not from what I've seen
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 ай бұрын
@@phillipcummings3518 It’s rare to see people saying Bill Russell was a plumber, although saying he *played* against plumbers is said sometimes
@michaelthreepeat
@michaelthreepeat 10 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan-A.C. Yes I get your point but it's false nonetheless
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 ай бұрын
@@michaelthreepeat I don’t see how my point is false, but maybe you I are seeing different people’s opinions. From what what I’ve seen, people don’t call Bill Russell a plumber all to often, but they do call the era of players that fairly often
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 10 ай бұрын
People don't understand that Wilt chamberlain legit had a finesse fadeaway.
@laz0rama
@laz0rama 10 ай бұрын
yep. and usually a banker at that.
@a-a-rondavis9438
@a-a-rondavis9438 10 ай бұрын
He and others always testify to the fact that Wilt was a finesse player, having a bag of moves rather than muscling his way through.
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 10 ай бұрын
One of his contemporaries said he scored more than half his points on fadeaway jumpers.
@gavincampbell7488
@gavincampbell7488 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for making such a thought-provoking video. Most forget just how good ALL of these players are/were.
@DtrJr
@DtrJr 10 ай бұрын
damn what a banger of an idea. keep up the great stuff man but make sure to always take enough time for yourself
@dbrav727
@dbrav727 10 ай бұрын
To me MJ’s passing and play making is the most overlooked thing in his game
@kannon1610
@kannon1610 10 ай бұрын
My top underrated aspect of each GOAT other than what you mentioned: Jordan's playmaking. Jordan was so successful as a player because he could lift the floor of any team by creating scoring opportunities for his teammates when he'd collapse defenses or draw double teams. His airtime also helped him do a lot of audibles in the middle of shots and leaps at the basket. Bird: Also passing for me. He was an elite outlet passer and a super crafty, clever playmaker. Him and Magic are so often compared, with Magic obviously being considered the better passer, but Bird was no slouch in that aspect either. Magic: Outside scoring. Of course he was no super sniper from 3, but he was certainly a reliable mid to long range 2 and 3 ball threat relative to his era. It added yet another dimension to his game that made him so lethal. Wilt: I think adaptability in the latter half of his career to a new play style has to be the biggest underlooked aspect of Wilt. Everyone likes to look at those crazy scoring seasons but Wilt was able to become a successful team player and downshift his ball dominance when it became clear that it was a more reliable path to championships. It's impressive that he could rebuild his style like that. Bill Russell: Clutch gene. He not only was 7-0 in game 7s in his NBA career, he was 21-0 in winner take all games between his NCAA and NBA careers. His drive to win was so great he would puke his guts out before big games at the very idea of losing. So you can imagine what kind of need to win was driving those 21 victories. Kareem: i actually cant think of anything. I dont even really agree that his shot blocking is underrated. Lebron: Playmaking and basketball IQ. He is mischaracterized when people call him pass first, but like Jordan he exerts such a magnetic force over the court with his scoring pressure and has such an insanely high basketball IQ that he is able to find extremely good dimes all game every game. He doesnt focus on it as much as Magic but also doesn't need to for the team comps he has had.
@lowkey614
@lowkey614 10 ай бұрын
I would actually say that Larry's Bird most underrated skill is passing, he averaged 6.3 assists for his career, Lebron James avarage is 7.3 and he is considered a great passer. so his passing is heavy underrated
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 10 ай бұрын
The only reason I personally wouldn't say passing, is because I don't see anyone acting like Bird was a bad passer... but I do see people acting like he was a bad defender
@Flat_top_king12
@Flat_top_king12 10 ай бұрын
Passing skill isn't just racking up assists
@iamdebaby8152
@iamdebaby8152 10 ай бұрын
Judging passing ability off AST averages what a causal 😂 in 2021-22 kd averaged more AST than lebron using your logic kd is not only on the same level as lebron but better.😂
@jubjubhenry5612
@jubjubhenry5612 10 ай бұрын
@@Flat_top_king12Pretty much especially considering how ball dominant LeBron is compared to Larry it looks even worse. Just based on skill level of passing Larry is a bit more skilled than LeBron and I think the playstyle Larry fostered was a better type than Bron who slows play down so badly esp later in his career it’s hard to watch if you care about these things. Larry was off ball dominant and worked the baseline so so well the angles he attacked from were just different than Bron who always has to face the basket from the top somewhere.
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored 10 ай бұрын
When Bird played, Him and Magic was considered the 2 best passers in the game. So that part was definitely not overrated.
@eddieG667
@eddieG667 10 ай бұрын
People don’t realize how big Kareem’s presence was even late in his career. As a Laker fan, the change in help defense when Mychal Thompson or Macadoo came in was very evident as they couldn’t alter shots at the rim like Cap did. Game 6 in the 1987 finals had Kareem playing like a 20 year old
@damboulton
@damboulton 10 ай бұрын
This is truly brilliant! Great video idea and perfectly executed, can’t wait for part 2
@montybrooks5344
@montybrooks5344 10 ай бұрын
Wilson sy did it first
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 10 ай бұрын
*except that LeChoke is still a choker still under .500 at the highest stage
@Lolander14
@Lolander14 10 ай бұрын
For Russell, I'd also argue that his passing/playmaking was underrated too. He averaged 4.1 assists per game for his career, and he frequently handled the ball to initiate the vaunted Celtic fast break for Auerbach's squads. If he played in today's era, he would definitely be a team's secondary ball handler, and he would've had more chances to run a half-court offense than in his day.
@senorsebie9206
@senorsebie9206 10 ай бұрын
Bro why has Jonny been so consistent lately lmao. When is he sleeping 😂
@vernonleewarren280
@vernonleewarren280 10 ай бұрын
Wilt or Russell would of by far have the most blocks in NBA history. Not Jabbar. Unfortunately they werent tracking blocks until after both of those all-time great players retired
@dshawandunwell3892
@dshawandunwell3892 10 ай бұрын
Ok Jonny at this point im wondering if you're sleeping well, your release schedule has been insane
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty tired. lol
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 10 ай бұрын
@@jonnyarnett a video on Dream Team 2 (94 FIBA Team) please
@raharu.
@raharu. 10 ай бұрын
@@markjackson6431 let the man rest 💀
@alexhennigh5242
@alexhennigh5242 10 ай бұрын
​@@markjackson6431Maybe learn to read the room 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@dshawandunwell3892
@dshawandunwell3892 10 ай бұрын
@@jonnyarnett take a break if you need one man, you deserve it for all these quality videos you been making
@FrancoDFernando
@FrancoDFernando 10 ай бұрын
I think it’s MJ’s explosive first step. It’s his first step that was the catalyst for all of his playmaking. I’ve never seen another player with a more explosive first step
@troliskimosko
@troliskimosko 10 ай бұрын
I think his first step is pretty widely appreciated
@patjenkins1308
@patjenkins1308 10 ай бұрын
Iverson
@catcountry0099
@catcountry0099 10 ай бұрын
MJ is literally known for his explosive athleticism
@Zakillah
@Zakillah 10 ай бұрын
Wilt would be all time leader in shots blocked and you know it.
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 10 ай бұрын
Probably. You're right, if we retroactively include all of Kareem's blocks, then Wilt's should count as well. Still worth noticing Kareem though
@jlui21
@jlui21 10 ай бұрын
-- but Wilt played against Mario and Luigi, Italian plumbers that were the brain child of a Japanese genius. Plus, the only hops they had is when they were on shrooms so...yes, Wilt would have set the blocks' record.
@ericrodas9831
@ericrodas9831 10 ай бұрын
As a shooting guard, the Iceman’s shot blocking was a little underrated. His best season had him get 138 but it was in the ABA. He also has more career total blocked shots than Jordan at 1047 vs 893.
@73Trident
@73Trident 10 ай бұрын
Russell's scoring is the most underrated part of his game. 15000 pts almost 15 ppg and never had a play called for him. I think that is outstanding. When was the last time some one not named Bill Russell have a 30 pt and 40 rebound game in the Finals. I'm waiting.
@choward5430
@choward5430 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Two things really stand out for me: 1. Jordan blocked more shots than LeBron playing outside mostly and LeBron James is 6'9". 2. Bill Russell's leaping ability (and speed). I knew this but I didn't know the specific details. NO ONE IN THE NBA TODAY CAN HIGH JUMP 6'9".
@a-a-rondavis9438
@a-a-rondavis9438 10 ай бұрын
LeBron was never a big blocker, yet averaged about a block a game during his prime. That's pretty good to me. And also, no NBA player is doing the high jump, because it's an Olympic event lol.
@ernesthader1109
@ernesthader1109 10 ай бұрын
@@a-a-rondavis9438 , of course any nba player can compete as long as he qualifies. He just has to choose whether he would play for high jump or basketball. Russell chose basketball back then. He's still 7th overall worldwide despite not participating in the olympics.
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 10 ай бұрын
I think most of the players with high 30s to 40+ inch verticals could high jump like that, with training. Also, the modern style (Fosbury flop) makes it easier to get higher with less technique. You don't have to worry about the trailing leg fouling the bar like in the straddle version Russell (and Wilt too!) had to use. Once your hips clear the bar, that's a wrap.
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 10 ай бұрын
Mj not a BETTER DEFENDER OR SHOT BLOCKER
@semaj1077
@semaj1077 10 ай бұрын
This is an underrated channel. Thanks for making bball stats/history fun again!
@beenizz5102
@beenizz5102 10 ай бұрын
Best video yet. Absolutely incredible respect and spot on information. Number 1 thing that I feel needs to be done is the destruction of false narratives and revelation of actual truths contrary to popular belief especially when it comes to underrated things goats do I’d say Kobe’s Playmaking is hella underrated. So is his offensive rebounding
@emmanuelmondesir
@emmanuelmondesir 10 ай бұрын
Johnny been on a run recently
@Tarrot
@Tarrot 10 ай бұрын
Minor thing: Not to take away that Kareem's shot blocking would probably put him above Hakeem, but counting all blocks from before they were recorded, Wilt and Russel almost certainly would have more. From the limited number of full games of Wilt that are available, I want to say 119, most toward the end of his career when he was athletic, he averages around 9 blocks/game. If you half that number, and apply it to Wilt's total games, he's still comfortably ahead of Kareeem if you give him a generous total in blocks for his first 4 years. Related, you could also say Wilt's defense is underrated. Towards the end of his career when he focused on defense like Russel he anchored some of the statistically best defenses on those Lakers teams along with Jerry West (another person whose defense would be overlooked).
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 10 ай бұрын
That's crazy! If this is true that means Wilt is even more overrated.
@McGomezAddams
@McGomezAddams 10 ай бұрын
Your content has been on another level
@twizzy585ful
@twizzy585ful 10 ай бұрын
Great videos where all the greats get their credit with no hate...well done as usual 💯🙌🏿
@przec13r28
@przec13r28 10 ай бұрын
Hey Jonny in your Last two videos you came up with very very interesting topics! Great ideas! I love your channel
@OrigEntertainmentOfficial
@OrigEntertainmentOfficial 10 ай бұрын
Great video and series. Thanks for bringing up the old school players. I think they are often overlooked in general. Each generation learns from the previous generations. It's those innovations that the GOAT of each era brings to the game that elevates it. It's a bummer there isn't more footage or accurate stats from early era players like Kareem, Pistol Pete, Wilt, etc.
@truthiscensored
@truthiscensored 10 ай бұрын
Kareem probably did it more than one season, but the first 4 seasons he played, Blocks wasn't kept as a stat
@SuperNASCARrocks
@SuperNASCARrocks 10 ай бұрын
I think the most overlooked stat is that Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes per game for an entire season.
@a-a-rondavis9438
@a-a-rondavis9438 10 ай бұрын
Wilt said it himself in his book, "The View From Above (1991)", that his personal greatest accomplishment was never fouling out of a game.
@loydkline
@loydkline 10 ай бұрын
Wilt fadaway shot
@DG-sc1yu
@DG-sc1yu 10 ай бұрын
The most overlooked stat is Wilt is the fucking BEAST! No one better.
@loydkline
@loydkline 10 ай бұрын
@@DG-sc1yu early 1960s wilt unstoppable in low post 📫
@dabarnes12
@dabarnes12 10 ай бұрын
Another great video! You are the best Jdog.
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate it man!
@GaryWrightUtah
@GaryWrightUtah 10 ай бұрын
Awesome series. Here's one... when you think of John Stockton you think of his Assists because he was a pass first point guard and holds the ALL Time record for Assists. But people never mention his Steals. He holds the ALL TIME steals record. He had the quickest hands to snag that ball away from the other guy.
@Garkimyer
@Garkimyer 10 ай бұрын
Tbh Wilt is kind of just underrated overall. He did literally every part of the game better than anyone else, and was intentionally holding himself back while doing it. He could have been Shaq but way stronger if he wanted to. Dude was benching 600lbs, won the high jump, shot put, triple jump, and 400m varsity sport events all 4 years he competed (while being on the basketball team) but didnt want to be known for that and didnt want to hurt the other players, which he easily could have. He was the highest scoring (in a season), rebounding, shot blocking player ever, and lead the league in assists just because he didnt want to be called selfish. I wish i could see him play today with all of todays support systems for athletes. I think he’d be more of a monster than he was then.
@fragilisticfalconier8644
@fragilisticfalconier8644 10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for part 2. Tim Duncan doesn’t get talked about nearly enough (heck I could end the sentence right here) about being one of the best playmaking bigs of all time
@a-a-rondavis9438
@a-a-rondavis9438 10 ай бұрын
Maybe, but his assists were low, and there were many bigs, even like Joakim Noah, that passed more frequently and had higher averages. There's probably 10 or more bigs better than Duncan on passing
@cornoffthecob1018
@cornoffthecob1018 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Jonny for cranking out such high quality content 🙏🏼. Keep up the grind
@richardjackson5670
@richardjackson5670 10 ай бұрын
MJ’s passing ability is also underrated! Nobody talks about that. 😅
@sportschad
@sportschad 10 ай бұрын
I think MJ's most underrated aspect of his game is his off-ball offense AND off-ball defense. He moves around a lot on both ends. He exerts so much energy on both ends that he look like an annoying fly on the court at times. Whenever he is on the floor there is always a threat for a steal and a block lurking around. On offense he doesn't let the offense stagnate, and keep the team offense moving and alive by moving constantly, which also makes him an offensive rebounding threat. He exerts so much energy on both ends, that he could have probably played 5 more seasons, if he just lowered his activity on the passing lanes, removed his off-ball game, focused less on getting second chance points, and any sort of "dirty work".
@andrewcook1246
@andrewcook1246 10 ай бұрын
People think Wilt was brute force like Shaq, but rules were different. You couldn't run people over. If Wilt was really allowed to play bully ball is numbers would go from anime to straight up cartoon-ish
@mrho4speed
@mrho4speed 10 ай бұрын
Great video and keep them coming. I had no idea about Bill Russell and the high-jumping!!
@nathanjackson7797
@nathanjackson7797 10 ай бұрын
This was one of ur best videos yet 🙌🏾
@clarissawestbrook2203
@clarissawestbrook2203 10 ай бұрын
This was a good list and breakdown. I hope your channel continues to grow and prosper. ❤❤❤❤
@whartonarseino8849
@whartonarseino8849 10 ай бұрын
Bill Russell's speed was unreal
@Conquistador76
@Conquistador76 10 ай бұрын
Kareem’s shot blocking blows my mind, nice research as always @Jonny Arnett
@catherinelynnfraser2001
@catherinelynnfraser2001 10 ай бұрын
I love this. We always get blinkered by recency bias. It’s always a good time to get a better look at the legends.
@treystyles3760
@treystyles3760 10 ай бұрын
I remember Bird almost getting the quadruple double, but I forgot it was only 3qtrs, 30pts and almost 60 percent shooting 😮😮
@simonhughes4934
@simonhughes4934 10 ай бұрын
The coach asked if he wanted to go back in the game, his response was 'ive done enough damage'!
@NewLightning1
@NewLightning1 9 ай бұрын
Wilt playmaking when he plays for the 76ers is extremely underrated. He is the leading apg for center before jokic came around and he holds the record for most assist in a single season for a center
@FranzlLangJr
@FranzlLangJr 10 ай бұрын
Frank Ntilikina's Defensive Game. So underrated, especially when he played out in France Man France got some of the best bigs/defensive men
@Sincere529
@Sincere529 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video as usual
@asiatic1979
@asiatic1979 10 ай бұрын
This absolutely has to be hands-down, the best channel on basketball!
@gabrielsolis4281
@gabrielsolis4281 10 ай бұрын
Somebody gotta say it… you have the best video ideas
@loganmattoon5284
@loganmattoon5284 10 ай бұрын
Like always speaking facts
@loganmattoon5284
@loganmattoon5284 10 ай бұрын
And I ain't just being a suck up. You are legitimately the most unbiased media member/ basketball influencer today. Always being 100% genuine no secret agendas
@stevelegreid
@stevelegreid 10 ай бұрын
That Jordan over Mason footage in the intro is picturesque. Especially with the music👍🏼
@hot6teenz
@hot6teenz 10 ай бұрын
This is becoming one of my favorite channels
@sakaridis
@sakaridis 10 ай бұрын
It's really sad that blocks were not part of the official stats back in the 50s and 60s. I'm pretty sure Bill and Wilt comfortably averages 4-5 per game.
@facelessandnameless
@facelessandnameless 10 ай бұрын
Wilt likely averaged 8 blocks a game in his prime.
@sakaridis
@sakaridis 10 ай бұрын
@@facelessandnameless Sounds plausible. Same for Russell as well, who was also more defense-focused in general. I was trying to be conservative with my "4-5 average" estimate. 😂
@ezhondave7077
@ezhondave7077 10 ай бұрын
I think not a lot of people talk about MJ's fundamentals. He is one of the most fundamentally sound individuals in his sport, maybe behind only Duncan. His IQ and game sense translates well on the court due to the fact that he is also gifted athletically. If not for his fundamentals, he would probably encounter career defining injuries.
@azurevoid47
@azurevoid47 10 ай бұрын
Hearing that this is an on goin series is great can't wait for part 2
@eeempy99
@eeempy99 10 ай бұрын
and there is the difference between Magic and Steph. Magic could drop 40+ games if he needed to. Curry couldn't drop 15+ Assist games if he needed to.
@rollingwins
@rollingwins 10 ай бұрын
Lebron game 6 in Boston in 2013 was definition of Clutch
@lucidstudious750
@lucidstudious750 10 ай бұрын
People who say he isn't clutch, have never actually watched lebron play
@nicksamp515
@nicksamp515 10 ай бұрын
2012*. It still baffles me even after 2016, everybody still labels him as a choker and not clutch, and then Label steph, kd, kawhi, giannis as clutch despite having less impactful and meaningful clutch moments than LeBron had his entire career. in 07 alone, him scoring every cavs' points in the 4th and overtime against the pistons should be enough to label him a clutch player.
@lucidstudious750
@lucidstudious750 10 ай бұрын
@@nicksamp515 most people say curry isn't clutch which is already stupid imo. Saying lebron isn't clutch is a WHOLE another level of stupidity
@wvu05
@wvu05 10 ай бұрын
"Kareem should be the all-time blocked shots leader." Chamberlain and Russell: Are we nothing to you?
@Lewishhhh
@Lewishhhh 10 ай бұрын
although not under appreciated (as people who know about Bird respect it) but i feel like not enough people respect the fact that Larry Bird is probably the most complete player ever
@kawdi2343
@kawdi2343 10 ай бұрын
fr i got him right after bron
@pharkasj
@pharkasj 10 ай бұрын
Imagine a healthy Paul George or T-Mac in a team whch has Kevin Mchale as a 6th man :D They are not better than Bird but still ...
@kiryukazuma8229
@kiryukazuma8229 10 ай бұрын
I’d say Lebron is first but I definitely think Larry is 2nd
@ynot3094
@ynot3094 10 ай бұрын
@@kawdi2343yeah i think lebron has the edge on bird too because of the athleticism. Bird 2nd for sure tho
@dewanewelch1744
@dewanewelch1744 10 ай бұрын
Honestly he just might be. Between him, Jordan, and Kobe.
@vicentecampos2893
@vicentecampos2893 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant, as usual, some stats I did not know.
@willbridges321
@willbridges321 10 ай бұрын
Love the vid Johnny! Yet again you’re making me question how much I actually know about the NBA 🤣 I knew Larry had 3 all defensive teams but never knew he finished 3rd in DPOY voting. Crazy to think about when you consider how much he did on the other side of the ball every night.
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 10 ай бұрын
No, he finished 2nd, which is why it was higher than Duncan ever got. Duncan never came in 2nd. It's hard to believe, but in some seasons where he was 1st team all-defense (again!), he got 0 DPOY votes, according to an old Reddit thread I just read.
@chanendlerbong
@chanendlerbong 10 ай бұрын
Im glad that you included Steph Curry in the GOATs group
@PEREYDARAY
@PEREYDARAY 10 ай бұрын
this video is excelent for the casuals out there good video my dude
@Maximillian200HP
@Maximillian200HP 10 ай бұрын
I have been saying Kareem's shotblocking/defense is underappreciated for YEARS! THANK YOU JOHNNY!
@lanzcarisma2553
@lanzcarisma2553 10 ай бұрын
I grew up watching the so called boring Spurs Dynasty and for me, Duncan's overlooked skill should be his passing. The Spurs system makes every player contribute in offball movements and accurate passing and Duncan is one of the underrated passing bigs
@alexanderlyons4807
@alexanderlyons4807 10 ай бұрын
I know he is going to be in the next one, but to me Curry's most underrated aspect is his rebounding. A lot of people might say his passing game or inside scoring, but to me his rebounding goes under the radar a lot of time. This past season he averaged 6 per game and the past 4-5 seasons before this one he averaged over 5 per game, the league average for PGs is 3. Which doesn't sound like a lot but when you consider he's a 6'2" point guard that specializes in shooting 3s that's a lot of rebounds, even more than a lot of players that have multiple inches on him. This past season he had the 5th highest of all poitn guards, the only ones above him were listed no shorter than 6'7". And outside of Luka the difference was only .3 at the most. The other 2 aspects i mentioned or even possibly his defense are the most likely to make the list, but the most underrated aspect in my opinion is the rebounding considering no one has ever mentioned it to my knowledge
@jgrey8959
@jgrey8959 10 ай бұрын
One rarity that Kareem managed was leading the league in blocks and rebounds in the same season. Very few have done so (Walton, Ben Wallace, Hakeem, Dwight Howard) because positioning for a block can often leave you out of position for a rebound.
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu 10 ай бұрын
Yeah and Kareem did it while scoring a ton of points too
@teofemo7000
@teofemo7000 10 ай бұрын
Kareem holds the single season record for defensive rebounds.
@oldeskoolnewsreels9927
@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 2 ай бұрын
Not to be that guy, but Wilt probably would have done it 10 or 11 times if his blocks were counted.
@jgrey8959
@jgrey8959 2 ай бұрын
@@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 Oh no doubt. Russell a few times too.
@oldeskoolnewsreels9927
@oldeskoolnewsreels9927 2 ай бұрын
@@jgrey8959True, but out of the 10 years they played together Wilt led the league in rebounds 8 times and Bill two times. If Wilt and Bill didn't play against each other, they both would have probably done it every season they played.
@randomperson2540
@randomperson2540 10 ай бұрын
Kobe defense and playmaking are the most underrated to me, people legit dont think hes a great playmaker or an elite defender. If i had to say a single thing i think his off ball D i would pick.
@jaketerpening3284
@jaketerpening3284 10 ай бұрын
It's playmaking not defense. He is an elite defender, but he actually frequently gets overrated in that aspect when people put him above LeBron and MJ. His reputation as a ball hog is somewhat founded with his 2004 finals where he was clearly trying to get FMVP, along with the following seasons where they traded Shaq and the whole team outside of Kobe sucked, but he definitely has spent more of his career being a great playmaker than a pure scorer.
@kleatise52
@kleatise52 10 ай бұрын
Most people know he’s an elite on ball defender.
@keithjoseph128
@keithjoseph128 10 ай бұрын
Playmaking? You're talking about a guy who lost title from not understanding how to utilize teammates, especially late in games. That's not even bringing up his own admittance to not being able to make teammates better. This is Steven A clown college at its finest.
@randomperson2540
@randomperson2540 10 ай бұрын
@jaketerpening3284 thank you
@randomperson2540
@randomperson2540 10 ай бұрын
@kleatise52 Some people say that's the only thing he's good, which is why he's not an elite defender, which is wrong. People have told me he's either not elite and / or he doesn't deserve his all defensive teams.
@treystyles3760
@treystyles3760 10 ай бұрын
Kobe 's passing, although he didn't do it that much, he pass to the post and set up shooters outside from the post, and make the right read on fastbreaks.
@hervedavidh4117
@hervedavidh4117 10 ай бұрын
Didn't know about Bill Russell and the High Jump, really amazing !
@mikhaeldavis6180
@mikhaeldavis6180 10 ай бұрын
This is nice! 👍🏾
@zoneoutodg1350
@zoneoutodg1350 10 ай бұрын
Great video idea
@Eon210
@Eon210 10 ай бұрын
Love this video.
@Tre325
@Tre325 10 ай бұрын
@1:38 that pic of MJ is insane!!
@menachtv6522
@menachtv6522 10 ай бұрын
WIlt Passing, defence also underrated
@overseer707
@overseer707 10 ай бұрын
Great video and content as always. Johnny I was hoping you could consider making a video covering the history of the all star game (how its become less and less competitive over time) and give your input on how the system could be improved to make the whole weekend feel magical once again! Edit: Also I was wondering what your thoughts were about the All-Star starters voting process. Personally I really dislike how flawed the voting system really is (ex. Yao Ming being voted in after playing only 5 games all season in 2010-2011, as well as Magic Johnson getting the nod in 1992 even though he was a year into retirement due to HIV). IMO its time for a change.
@stevanchez1122
@stevanchez1122 10 ай бұрын
Jordan's rebounding and ball control. Jordan is one of the greatest rebounding guards in the history of the sport and the greatest modern rebounding SG. He ranks 3rd all-time in rpg among SGs behind only Jerry Sloan and Tom Gola, who both played in the 50's/60's where everyone's rebounds were inflated. When looking at all guards, he ranks 7th behind Gola, Sloan, Oscar, Magic, Westbrook, and Kidd(who he's behind by only hundredths). Jordan has the highest usage rate in NBA history (33.26%), yet he has the 39th best TOV rate (9.34%) ever. Just to illustrate how ridiculous this is, among the "GOATs", only Kobe & Duncan rank in the top 250 all-time in TOV rate and they rank 165th and 245th, respectively. No all-time great, other than Jordan, has a TOV rate below 11.5%. Furthermore, Jordan has the best TOV rate of anyone that averages more than 4 apg. You put the ball in Jordan's hands and you were going to get a good outcome 90% of the time. There's, literally, no other great you can say that about.
@stephon_the_icon1764
@stephon_the_icon1764 10 ай бұрын
MJs dribbling and ability to shoot 3s as well, with Wilt as well is playmaking is so overlooked looked at old videos of wilt brining the ball down and passing like if he was jokic in his prime
@tpammt8276
@tpammt8276 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching nearly lebrons entire career but when you said “Lebrons 45 finals games SINCE then” my eyebrows raised a bit. It’s just so many when you hear it like that
@gotwobag7876
@gotwobag7876 10 ай бұрын
Here comes 160!!!!!
@zachculberson4457
@zachculberson4457 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying Lebron is clutch. You are one of the most unbiased NBA KZbinrs no cap.
@Jixon_Nosefson
@Jixon_Nosefson 10 ай бұрын
Yo what’s up with the chapter names lmfao solid vid as always but when sidney moncrief and Michael cooler were popping up during your wilt segment it threw me off lol
@hakeemolajuwon4352
@hakeemolajuwon4352 10 ай бұрын
How are you gonna mention Jordan's blocks and not Olajuwon's steals?! Olajuwon recorded between 220-376 blocks and between 100-213 steals every season for 12 years!!! The year Jordan won DPOY, Olajuwon was the only player in history to record 200+ blocks and 200+ steals in the same season.
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