I had a similar problem on my Stelvio 1200 … in my case the problem were the sparks plugs…. I used double electrodes plugs and all good ! Good luck to you and enjoy your trip.
@mrsilbo64992 ай бұрын
Good luck Bucky. I've had a couple of Guzzis & currently run a Griso 1200SE. There's a few people in this thread that clearly hv never owned an Italian bike & don't understand that they're all the unfinished article & require remapping & a pipe etc to make them run properly. Your mods seem entirely appropriate to me & the suggestions from those who do know what they're talking about are likely correct that it's a sensor (but which one?) that's put the bike into limp mode. I recommend you go onto the MG forums & ask them what the error code means. You'll get a ton of great advice back, no negativity & you might even turn up more local expertise! PS - if you Google the PO255 error code, it points to a TPS failure.
@buckymoto17842 ай бұрын
Having had 3x ducati in my lifetime of riding I'm well used with the Italian way 🤣 this is my 1st Gootsi, I love the bike. It's just awkward now we don't have a MG dealer in our country... The bike runs superbly with the mods. It runs cooler in summer and gives no knocking or pinking. The few extra bhp are also nice. As I take it off road a lot the mods give it far superior smooth throttle in lower rpm. For easier negotiating of the terrain.. I have the bike booked in with a local bike mechanic who isn't sure if he can read Guzzi. But if he can pinpoint the issue I will be glad.. One person on FB has the exact same code as I do. His bike is actually in a dealer RN waiting on a new throttle.. I hope this is also my issue.
@mrsilbo64992 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 Fingers crossed!
@jshanni20663 ай бұрын
Ive seen a few reports of difficult cold starts progressing to lack of throttle response and unwilling to rev and from memory a few have been traced to a problem wirh the crank angle sensor, which sits in behind the front alternator cover. The clearance on the sensor gradually goes out of tolerance which means the ecu cant accurately calculate engine timing , so it wont start / idle properly. Engine heats up, things expand and the sensor starts working for a while. But eventually, it craps out. Ive no idea if thats what is happening with yours but the symptoms sound familiar.
@trevorkarrett30412 ай бұрын
Yep, I've heard the same thing. Would recommend doing some research on this.
@TYPE1media3 ай бұрын
I’d start by replacing the crank angle pickup sensor, it’s quite inexpensive and easy to do.. Griso had the same issue. It’s a magneti Marelli sensor, that should fix it
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Thanks for the bit of advice 👍🏼
@MjrMeerkat3 ай бұрын
Im sorry to hear. Its a common thing, workshops or dealer dislike or even turn down fixing privately customized bikes. It could take Weeks to even locate the error. Performance-Tuning always messes with many Components and their lifespan, even with some Parts People didnt even thought of. It sounds like this will take you luck to find a willing Workshop and a bunch of Time&Money. Consider carefully, if you even want to invest this. Thanks for the Video and sharing your story, its a good lesson for others to think twice before modifying some vital components on their V85TT. I wish you all the best.
@richarddonaldson40183 ай бұрын
I had a v85tt loved it, lack of main dealer interest and several totally avoidable faults later , I sold it. Piaggio group will gladly take your cash, but then you are on your own !
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Agree, I absolutely love mine.. Does anything I want it too. But I see far too many horror stories when parts need ordered
@richarddonaldson40183 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 Bought a Suzuki V Strom 800DE , not as charismatic but it will not break!
@michaelnew10383 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 And they don't honour extended warranties either!
@Messiahwalter16 күн бұрын
Do not modify your bike …. And you will have no problem 👍👋
@buckymoto178416 күн бұрын
That would be boring. Bike now working fine
@NakaNakaDerkaDerka2 ай бұрын
Check your ignition coils.
@mysterybiker17173 ай бұрын
Have you tried switching back to stock map? I think the lambda sensor is disabled with the new map, therefore reinstating this gives closed loop feedback to the ecu and it will see its running very lean (probably due to oil temp sensor) and may richen mixture. Worth a try. Not a permanent fix but may let you tour.
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Last night I returned the bike to stock. Old catalytic converter and standard map. It made it worse as now the throttle no longer does anything and the bike sits at 2100 rpm all the time...
@davidpollock47033 ай бұрын
A very honest video/vlog. I think Wes has the wrong attitude- if I book a diagnostic/service slot, that is my slot. Not some of my mates, closer customers etc. Not a good look for a business (in my opinion). Hope you get sorted soon
@hotdoug10003 ай бұрын
Really hope you get this sorted, quickly and not much €€! Mate sorry to read this. That sounded horrid, not what a MG should sound like at all 😢
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment I'm hoping it isn't mega bucks either. 🙏
@stuartmoles8433 ай бұрын
Is there no Piaggio dealer in the South? There was one in Dublin? I think you may struggle to get a resolution if it’s been remapped etc as when it’s put on the Piaggio PADS system it will be out of spec. It’s going to be difficult finding a dealer who wants to actually do some diagnostics as whilst they are chasing your problems around they could be changing the oil in 4 bikes.
@tokaitelejohn5656Ай бұрын
Pretty sure Megabikes in Dublin are the main dealer in Ireland. Not such a long trip from Coleraine.
@NabGer3 ай бұрын
Have you pulled the spark plugs? May have gotten fouled if it was over fueling and causing the hard start at cold
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Its not the plugs... They have been checked..All wiring plugs have ben taken apart and cleaned and oiled and put back together also. to eliminate corroded wiring
@NabGer3 ай бұрын
Have you tried disconnecting the battery? Disconnect it, turn the key on for a minute, key of, reconnect the battery and see what happens
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Already tried this also... Thanks for commenting and giving ideas. I might not have tried something that someone might suggest
@stoatsngroatsuk50123 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you have issues, it’s one of the things which put me off the MG. I hope you get this sorted completely and without too much cost!
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Thanks.. 👍🏼
@brentharrington92353 ай бұрын
Meh I've had 4 MG now, nary an issue with any of em. Well, one of them died after it was crashed at 70mph, but I can't rally blame Moto Guzzi for that one can I?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
@@brentharrington9235 I absolutely love the bike. On road and off road.. And a mile muncher. She will rise from the ashes 🙏💪
@brentharrington92353 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 well if you got no dealers on your island...maybe need to make a different choice.
@mholbrook4722 ай бұрын
Hi...I have both a V100S and a E4 V85. Both have shown urgent alarm service. For thr V85 this was a lambda sensor and it showed up as an error I could read with Guzzi Diag. The V100 though....a brand new bike....shows urgent alarm with no code. You are describing limp mode. Between me and the dealer we have diagnosed low cranking voltage so.....IMHO look at cranking video from cold and buy guzzi diag with a cable.....please let us know how you get on
@buckymoto17842 ай бұрын
Guzzidiag doesn't work with 2021 V85TT. (New ecu won't work.) the code I can see with upmap shows a throttle (c) sensor issue. This seems to point to a TPS reset is required.
@user-qv8qv4vq4c2 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your issue, have you tried putting the original map back on?
@buckymoto17842 ай бұрын
I put the standard exhaust on and loaded the original map, which made it worse.. 🤷♂️ The throttle now doesn't work at all..
@user-qv8qv4vq4c2 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 sounds like a part needs replacing or cleaning. As others have said it probably needs a main dealer with the PADS diagnostic kit to locate the issue. It's a nuisance but it's probably the quickest way to find a solution.
@TheDervMan3 ай бұрын
Have you hooked up a code reader to see what errors are showing?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Yes that's the code I flashed up on the video.
@fabioperretta9298Ай бұрын
Ciao non ho capito che midifiche hai fatto al V 85 TT ? Ho anch'io un V 85 TT euro 5 e vorrei installare il Kit Decat Mistral ovvero collettori maggiorati, compensatore Y omologato e V Twin Boost lasciando lo scarico di serie. Tu che modifiche hai fatto?
@buckymoto1784Ай бұрын
I have fitted MassMoto decat system and storm muffler. Map is with upmap..
@buckymoto1784Ай бұрын
I have fitted a MassMoto decat system and storm muffler. The mapping is via Upmap..
@stoundingresults3 ай бұрын
In my old suzuki intruder vl1500, the dummy switch on the clutch lever gave me problems after riding in the rain, and a cable that lifted the valves to help turn over would get stretched and needed adjustment. That and weak battery were the few reasons it never started. Just to give you a possibility maybe when the valves were adjusted on your moto Guzzi it wasn't on top dead center?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏼
@geecee47463 ай бұрын
Mcrums still covering the warranty, and if it's out of warranty, im sure they would have the knowledge, hope you get sorted, seen you at the nw
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
McCrum and I dont se eye too eye.. He told me that if my bike is on the bike rack and 10 of his customers come in behind me, my bike will be taken off the stand and the others fixed in front of me.. if another 10 of his customers come in my bike will go to the back of the queue. All because I bought my bike on the mainland. This stance of his is totally ILLEAGAL. from a consumer standpoint. Hence why I will NEVER darken his doors no matter how desperate I was...
@geecee47463 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 i understand 👍👍
@hotdoug10003 ай бұрын
There's no consumer duty involved there. A customer is a customer. I bought a bike (BMW) in England but live in Scotland, it should be serviced etc and dealt with like any customer as should yours. I'd avoid that garage too mate! 🤞🤞
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
@@hotdoug1000 I'm the same. I bought a golf in London and never have a local vw dealer in NI told me I'm back of the que..
@yogid213 ай бұрын
people mess around with their bike esp the ecu and complaint if it doesn't work properly anymore?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Am I complaining? The bike has run superbly for 9mths modified. It's not the mods that is the issue, it's somthing has broken, got corroded, fell off or worn through a wire. I love the bike, it just needs fixed. The issue is there is now no MG dealer within 350 miles of me including needing to get a boat
@jamesgriffin31263 ай бұрын
Hi there, There is a MG dealer in Dublin, Megabikes. Might be worth contacting them for advice. Hope that the bike is sorted soon
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
@@jamesgriffin3126 cheers. I'll look into it.. If the private mechanic isn't able to sort it.
@Tec2Nut2 ай бұрын
Location is the same reason butting me of a nordon 901
@buckymoto17842 ай бұрын
I am lucky I have a main Husky dealer 20 miles from me. My previous bike if you look at some of my very 1st videos was a Husky svartpilen 701... Its the bike I started the channel with. If I could own 2x bikes it would be this V85 and a Svart 701 👌🏼👑😎 Norden are class looking bikes
@Tec2Nut2 ай бұрын
Motto Guzzy have a dealer in Dublin ?
@buckymoto17842 ай бұрын
Thanks.. I think this might be my option if my local mechanic can't fix in a weeks time.. 👍🏼. At least I won't need a boat 🤣
@ericronan63893 ай бұрын
That sounds like a weak mixture. As you say it could be a temperature sensor or an air leak from an intake pipe. Good luck with it.
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Somone else has suggested the metal clips around the intake on the backside of the cylinders istn tight enough and needs changed to a proper jubilee clip. They said air was leaking in.
@stoundingresults3 ай бұрын
You can try with engine starter spray in that area. @@buckymoto1784
@NakaNakaDerkaDerka2 ай бұрын
Sensors are disabled by upmap update.
@geecee47463 ай бұрын
Is it still under warranty?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
No, Its 14mths out of Warranty
@jonathonpoole50703 ай бұрын
Doesn’t sound too bad. I would say a sensor issue - Throttle position sensor, air pressure sensor, oil pressure sensor etc. I’d start with a diagnostics test and go from there. Certainly not terminal 👍
@Messiahwalter3 ай бұрын
I am afraid Guzzi Will not do much !!! You perhaps did too many modifications (?)
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
I agree, I was never taking it to Guzzi in the 1st place..
@alandmorley3 ай бұрын
disconnect the battery and leave on charge for a day. Worth a try and cost nothing.
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Alrasdy tried, but thanks for the tip.. 👍🏼
@brentharrington92353 ай бұрын
I'm no motorcycle expert...but have you thought about taking it to a DEALER?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
The local dealer gave up the franchise 4mths ago. Nearest is 350 miles away and a 6hrs boat over the Irish Sea
@brentharrington92353 ай бұрын
Yeah well...single source on an island. Fix it and trade it in for something with broader coverage. It's not like you got much choice mate. You need to plan a long weekend and head to the mainland.
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
@@brentharrington9235 it's completly bricked now.. The throttle doesn't even work.. I don't own a car with towbar. For a trailor hire.
@brentharrington92353 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 dang that's a tight spot. You are going to need to hire someone. ...you're telling me you got not a single person on that entire island that can work on Italian bikes? In the states we have bike shops that specialize in "European" bikes. They can work on anything from Triumph to Ducati to KTM. We just call them Metric Mechanics. Your entire nation is metric, you can't find ANYONE?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
@@brentharrington9235 I have found a guy but he can't look at it for 4 weeks. It's riding season here now all the garage queen bikes are out now along with the winter riders. Mechanics are super busy. I have asked in local fb pages, there doesn't seem to be any dedicated Italian mechanics. There was one but he retired last year. He did my bikes 1st service.
@radiocrash3 ай бұрын
Tight valves ?
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
Adjusted, 3 weeks ago in prep for its 12k service. Oils were all changed 4 days ago, that is when the limp mode started when I took it a ride
@radiocrash3 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 so it started after the service? It’s possible that they adjusted the valves incorrectly. All the symptoms of tight valves. Hard cold starts then easy start when hot. It’s easy enough to check them if you are handy with tools. Lots of videos on here talking you through the process.
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
@@radiocrash I'm the one does the servicing. Valves are perfect 👌🏼 the cold starting issue was present even before I adjusted the valves 3 weeks ago... The valves where almost perfect. The intakes wer pretty much spot on. The exhaust wer maybe a little loose
@radiocrash3 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784 agh fair enough
@GiancarloBenzina3 ай бұрын
Why do people think they have to tune a non-race, urban commuter engine? Ridiculous. And now what, we shall give advise how to fix a broken bike, where almost everything’s messed up? You’d likely have a hard time finding a garage to work on your bike. The guzzi is fine as it comes. If you want guzzi race power get a 1100/1200 race bike, properly set up and tuned by dynotec germany. But regardless, if you have no solid moto guzzi background or a garage specialized, I wouldn’t buy any bike, especially no tractors or derivates from (guzzi, harley, indian, …) that people claim being simple, not even japanese. Get a Honda Scooter, then. It’s Hilarious to tune the bike with modules and mappings, without a garage actually designing and measuring all up, having no clue and then going online asking people without the know about the bike’s real history to give opinions about an opinionated view of what’s broken.
@buckymoto17843 ай бұрын
🤣 1. Who's wanting to race.. The bike is strangled due to E5 regs. All I and many thousands of others are doing is give the Gootsi it's full potential. The decat also get rid of a LOT of heat from the motor.. 2. There was a dealer but they gave up the franchise 4mths ago. I take mine off road a lot. The standard setup was rubbish. A very snatching throttle at low speed with zero smooth articulation of the throttle with ghost surging.. The new setup has fixed all those issues. 3. It's my bike, not yours. You keep yours standard if that's what floats your boat. I'll do whatever the heck I want with mine 😘. 4. If you don't have any real suggestions scroll on by...
@NakaNakaDerkaDerka2 ай бұрын
@@buckymoto1784ignore these folks… I agree having 2 e5 air cooled guzzis, they are running too lean at low rpm which is bad for the motor. I also run upmap on both, and I do not believe for a moment it’s from upmap, nor the sensors as upmap I understand doesn’t use them. You may want to check with them on that.
@buckymoto17842 ай бұрын
@@NakaNakaDerkaDerka I now suspect either the throttle body isn't operating correctly or as you said ignition...
@JohnMitchellRocnaАй бұрын
I have the a “21 V85TT that has “no mods” which has been from Vancouver to Cabo San Lucas (Baja) with a lot of off road riding in +38 degree temperature. Not a problem with the bike… it is stock and it works. Now with 30,000 klicks…