Motocross Action's 2017 450 Shoot Out

[@ShelbyPaget]

How do you have poor suspension but superb handling?

[@Aint1S]

the geometry of the bike is the handling and the suspension just gets you there without bruising those kidneys. The bright side of poor suspension, you could pass a kidney stone after the bike bottomed out the whole time.

[@neilpincus4667]

Shelby Paget it's a lot easier to revalve and change springs than it is to change fundamental things like geometry. Buy a bike that turns and spend some coin on the suspension.

[@OGPokey151]

ride a 1997-1999 CR250 and you will understand

[@Davido50]

Yea, that's a conundrum there but possible.

[@Davido50]

@@neilpincus4667 truth.

[@bigdog5481]

next time ditch the music. id much rather hear the bikes

[@TeamLAairsoft]

Best shootout yet. I like how you explained the problems for each bike and the positives.

[@stormsinger3432]

No it was not, look at vital mx shoot out, the best yet. This one did a horrible edit, and did not do correct bike placement, for instance, I like kawi, but the Honda totally beat it by a far amount. Kawi changed a good amount. But he Honda beat the hp, and they changed and redesigned the whole look. This isn't the best.

[@evank63]

please, I beg of you... no more blurry shots of the bikes

[@SupercarEngg]

Great job on the shootout and on the video! It was fun to watch all the five riders following the same lines and throwing identical whips and scrubs. Not sure though how with the 2nd most HP and a great ability to put that power to the ground the Honda cold also have a flat top and (whatever you said I couldn't quite get it) not so good bottom and mid-range. Please explain.

[@Davido50]

Thanks MXA ! Love lookin bk to older shootouts If i find clean used bikes. Buy most my machines new but occasionally come across that hard to pass up used machine.

[@brycehunter419]

ya the Honda is definitely better than the kawi. what a shitty ranking. all these are all preference. all bikes are good it's all opinion.

[@RangerUp-pi1cu]

Bryce Hunter I own both a cr 450f and a yz450f and I can honestly say the Honda is alot better. It feels as light as a 250f but has alot more power than past years. The bike would have been my first pick out of all the bikes

[@smbmxdirt3427]

Marcell 97 yz450f fo life

[@RangerUp-pi1cu]

Shawn Melnick agreed. I got a 2016 yz450f limited edition yellow and it is the best bike I have ever been on.

[@RangerUp-pi1cu]

The Honda is way lighter that's the only thing I like about it more.

[@bradfordbowman8203]

Marcell 97 nice! I have the 06(50th anniversary) yz450 and it's unbelievably great all around, and love the yellow on them

[@wolfgang8795]

WHERE IS TM ?!

[@LoCk3H]

Broken

[@hreindustries]

Wolfgang Baer stuck in italy

[@wolfgang8795]

mine is never broken

[@wolfgang8795]

m1ke2001 maybe but it wuold be great if they reviewed one

[@Feral-Angst]

Tm just recently has been setting up in America, in 2018 they plan on having their own factory team compete in AMA supercross and Nationals, i bet at that point the american moto mags will finally put the TM in their shootouts

[@doug148877]

"GO UP A TOOTH ON THE REAR" - Jody, about every bike ever made in history.

[@skorchedearth1]

So the ONLY track left in California is Glen Helen ? Or just according to MXA ?

[@ogasi1798]

lol to the kawi forks description: SURPRISLINGY - quality check media team please hahaaaaaaa

[@martinfranek8160]

And what about 2017 Sherco mx models?

[@fox13z400]

they dont make a motocross bike, just enduro models.

[@martinfranek8160]

shercoforum.com/index.php?topic=824.0

[@ktmcrush2290]

fox13z400 250x is motocross to

[@jacobmcvay123]

"The Yamaha is 238lbs and it feels like 239." That had me GEEKIN! It is one heavy ass bike lol.

[@cjesbensen997]

Every 450 shootouts I've been watching, I've been waiting for the KTM 450 to win

[@Davido50]

KTM rocks. Get the factory edition to be a hero at any track. Stay safe!

[@TerrickHarden]

The music is so much louder than his voice.. It sucks because I have to turn my volume down for the music but I have to turn it way up to hear what he is saying..

[@eliseochellogarcia4530]

Seria bueno q saquen un video en espanol!!

[@joakimkindandresen1905]

How is Husky not better than Ktm when its almost the same bike? Husky even got some upgrades!

[@andreasjonsson8075]

Whats that intro song? Heavy ass shit!

[@gamer2350]

Why do they say the power of the 250fs but not the 450s?!?!?! I wanna know what they make!!!

[@deandodd4755]

every shootout has different winners...pick one and have fun.

[@BloodShedda]

that black and orange smoke effects looks so fucking good

[@losd5959]

The music volume is like 10 x louder than the dudes voice

[@olderwiser2080]

Orange is the color of today's cans of whoopass. :)

[@grabir01]

Wow !! 5 more hp than the 250 2 strokes for twice the money !!

[@hreindustries]

grabir01 5 more horse power will get you farther

[@garrett3234]

m1ke2001 no when the 2 stroke is way lighter bro power to weight is way greater

[@garrett3234]

Backwoodsboy405 again way lighter of a two stroke has more mid to top so nice try but a two stroke is still faster if you can ride it right. Fastest riders of all time start on two strokes wow wonder why and 4 strokes have to have double the ccs to have 5 more horsepower its a choke your a tool if you think a four stroke is faster

[@grabir01]

Garrett Gustafson 4 strokes is an EPA thing.

[@MediumWolf227]

Garrett Gustafson 4 strokes are faster bud.

[@rickriede2166]

MXA.I like the format of your vids but please,please loose the cheesy synth pop!

[@HXLIASMR]

Speech Impediment: Excellent. The 2017 narrator sounds just like LJ from breaking bad, resulting in an almost unwatchable shoot out video.

[@bencarrington7953]

BLACK HOODY legit he said "two tha tha seventeen" lmaooo

[@jahern0595]

Its all on personal preference, how experienced of a rider you are and style of riding. I grew up riding Yamahas and Kawi's but was mainly track until I hit the 125 class. After that we raced desert and had a RM 125 then moved on to a YZ250. After that I bought a YZF450 and now have a 2016 KTM 500 exc and do more best of the desert races and the LABTV. I can say I've rode other bikes in comparison and for what I felt comfortable on is what I owned. Who gives a shit if a 10 min video is biased, its they're video and if people want to bitch and moan then make your own. Just shut up and ride BRRAAAAP!!

[@vevohoeyo]

who gives two shits about what bike you have just grab one and get fukn riding they can all out do 98 % of the people's ability that buy them anyway.

[@masuariwahab2856]

just look at the motocross tornament record which motocross always as a winner...

[@ВиталийГасанов-е3з]

так самый надёжный кроссовый мотоцикл это так же Ямаха ?

[@itsMorooo]

Tm?

[@jordanpatin2736]

If I had a dollar for every time they were biased towards KTM.

[@codcade]

This years Honda is so dope looking

[@edwardgreat]

i quit watching because of the music ( love dirtbike )

[@williammoreschini4468]

Kawasaki over Yamaha I'm done

[@danlesovsky7134]

Great vid, but my lord was that music horrid!!!

[@dustinscheller7795]

eventually the are gonna get so light and powerful guys are gonna be bending frames and stuff

[@smithrod63]

Thanks for doing the shootout. PLEASE FIX the audio - can't hear the commentary, then I wake up my kids with the ridiculously loud music. I kept chasing the volume up and down

[@jesseallen8246]

hondas basically a brand new bike but know it's Ktm,I've seen a 2016 Ktm leak oil out the side of the engine

[@wovenishere6862]

jesse allen in the 250 shootout Ktm had a oil leak from the engine

[@pawpawdave1]

Wow that's a nice Sakaduki

[@n2motocross]

The rave music is irritating! These videos are so damn cool, the cheap music is not needed.

[@jade4809]

Is this the Harry Potter dementor shootout special??? I am glad you did shootout, because i was thinking about a Honda.

[@garrett3234]

Jade get the honda broo i have ridden the new one thanks to a local dealer its leaps and bounds better than last years honda or get a husky

[@micheleminisini5472]

la migliore resta sempre Honda... ktm indietro anni luce dalle japan

[@Muonio19]

every time it transitioned from speaking to music I thought about exiting the video. one of the worst videos I've ever watched when it comes to volume.

[@mahaniamir]

i was just checking how many years ago #ktmactionmagazin start not denying their ktm awesome support

[@nathancountryman5137]

thank god i bought the yamaha

[@garrett3234]

Got to watch Vital Mx review unbiased. There has been years where i swear the bike that wins is trash but it still wins. This place is biased i swear. Honda is better than Kawi are you fukn kidding its 3rd and Ktm and Husky is a toss up but Husky is slightly better not as agressive on the power easier to ride

[@LoCk3H]

Only a pussy would say not as aggressive :D

[@deadeyenic6833]

LoCk3H hahaha

[@garrett3234]

LoCk3H bro im not fukn james stewart i dont need a crazy hard hitting motor that has no rev? Do you trail ride or do Gncc i need torque and a long reving motor. I have ridden cr500s hard hitting is fun but for an everyday consumer who may not know what the fuck there doing they dont want that!? So plz dont go calling people pussies unless you know why there saying that you fukn moron

[@garrett3234]

LoCk3H what does less aggressive sound like a smoother power band rolls the power on and revs. Aggressive is going from calm to ballistic and then signs off power is gone who the fuck wants that i want it all the way through the power band equal power if its trying to yank the bars out of my hand does that sound fun but your obviously wayyyyyy toooo fukn stupid to understand what im talking about so just keep acting like a badass calling people pussies in youtube comments.

[@LoCk3H]

Setting the KTM in soft map on the bars fixes any hard hit

[@MrIh8hondas]

Jesus fucking christ, cut it out with the music. I have to turn it way down in order to not deafen myself, and then turn it all they way back up when the actual information that I want is being presented.

[@andrewford80]

came here to say exactly this. get your levels right guys

[@losd5959]

yeah that shit was bad

[@davidwood8004]

love my zook

[@corinful]

David Wood I love Suzuki but they need to up there game....Apparently next years Suzuki should be something special

[@sarahroblox8049]

Suzuki will do a engine upgrade next year and it will get better but it still wont be in top 3

[@Adam-zo6lc]

Wow, surprised on the Kawasaki air forks being good? People gotta watch the other shootouts as well (Poor) and do the math. It was the same design as the RMZ, KXF must have stronger seals then the Rmz. Over all air forks were terrible. Only ride so long till seal blows. Both kx and rmz alway same issue in my shop blown seals

[@cameronbrown9266]

WTF...Honda and Yamaha should be way higher

[@RobertKehl]

Dude all the bikes are close. Well the jab bike's are anyway! The Ktm/husky's, well there at a totally different level. They really should have there own review. Just saying! Go orange or go white if you can afford it. But If your on a budget go jab. Yell still be happy. :)

[@michellatour150]

One thing for sure, you guys picked the most annoying 'music' to add to this video...

[@ktmracedog]

There's a reason Ktm is the best in these, if you look at any other racing circuit besides supercross, it's a land slide no one rides anything else because they aren't as good

[@fedgshhsgdjk]

I don't understand how the forks can be bad on the Suzuki but they're good on the Kawasaki. Exact same forks? Beyond me why Suzuki gets such a bad wrap.

[@motomeadyhuntingndmotocros6147]

Kawasaki is number 1 best bike there

[@johnathanyinger]

For the price, yeah. My local kawi dealer has been trying to sell their 16 kx450f since august for $6999.

[@deadeyenic6833]

motomeady hunting nd motocross green team ftw

[@catalyst7809]

motomeady hunting nd motocross That's your opinion.

[@garypretzer9140]

''ktm'' ''price'' ''poor''

[@jesseallen8246]

If Ktm wins next year I'm unsubscribing

[@garrett3234]

jesse allen lmao there biased so it will problably happen

[@sarahroblox8049]

ktms are the best brand bike they listen to what other people say on what they can improve so yes they will be winning it next year. and they will pull away from the other brand in years to come and be the best bike by far

[@ThatcherKSA]

It should, its like 4 grand more expensive then all the other bikes.

[@pauldayton5285]

@@ThatcherKSA Actually the KTM was only $1,300 more than the Honda & Yamaha when I went shopping for a new 450. When you look at what the KTM comes with stock such as the ODI lock on grips , A60 Excel rims , a hydraulic clutch , CNC machined triple clamps , CNC machined hubs , Brembo brakes , electric start , 2 stage on the fly map settings mounted on the handle bar's , on the fly traction control & launch control. If you were to buy those upgrades for the Honda & Yamaha it would cost way more than $1,300 ! The KTM is the lightest bike in the class with the most horsepower too ! I rode Honda's for 15yrs but after checking out the KTM I had to make the switch. It's now 3yrs later & I couldn't be happier with making that decision ! The KTM 450 is by far the best bike I've ever rode ! Oh yeah , something none of the shootouts ever talk about & that's 5th gear top speed ! The Jap bike's all have around the same top speed at 85 - 90mph , the KTM's top speed is 125mph !!

[@deandodd4755]

ok...money can buy anything. every shoot out has a different out come. other shoot out have the yamaha winning? ride what you like and enjoy.

[@facuf803]

Ktm pays them so they're bike wins

[@LoCk3H]

Or the fact they currently make the best bikes on track?

[@facuf803]

LoCk3H tru but i was hoping the crf would win

[@alexfoster9683]

"so the KTM is currently the fastest bike on the track and the best all round performer, but some guy on KZbin hopes the crf will win so we're gonna put it in first"

[@TeamLAairsoft]

Why is it that the shootouts are always the same? The husky and KTM are always the top 2

[@claytonfarrow6193]

Hondarider21 they don't pay the magazine editors. they just happen to make the lightest, fastest, best bike in the class. I'm sorry that you can't deal with the fact that your Honda lost. European brands just listen to what the riders want and they make changes. Japanese brands make what they want. Suzuki doesn't even change their bikes.

[@GoatRoper911]

Please slap the music guy that ruined this video... I have arm pump from hitting the mute button so much... FAIL

[@tajjson]

Rename MXA to KTMXA..

[@tylerpitman9851]

until u get passed on a Suzuki roczen pretty much never got passed lmfao

[@1clnsdime1]

Never lol I think a orange bike beat him plenty of times.

[@tylerpitman9851]

andrew geary he was injured during the supercross season

[@1clnsdime1]

No one out there is 100% its just part of the sport. Well see whats up in just a few days. Im not a Dungey fan im a 41 fan but there are to many people counting Dungey out when he has killed Kenny the past 2 years.

[@tylerpitman9851]

andrew geary ya but Kenny has got it dialed in it seems like in the monster energy cup he was beating everyone pretty bad

[@1clnsdime1]

Till he ended up on the dirt. With as good as Dungey is going down and getting a DNF inst a option. He couldnt make it 3 10 lap races with out hitting the dirt. Kenny is the fastest guy out right now but he isnt a 17rd podium guy.

[@kernplace37]

surprislingy

[@zhs386]

Yamaha - simply the best

[@nicholastenzycki6659]

One day.... one day I'll see a bike other than ktm or husky rank on the podium.

[@stormsinger3432]

This was not the best shootout. look at vital mx shoot out, the best yet. This one did a horrible edit, and did not do correct bike placement, for instance, I like kawi, but the Honda totally beat it by a far amount. Kawi changed a good amount. But the Honda beat the hp, they changed and redesigned the whole look. I think they went with there own preference on which bike Should be im which place. The facts were true. But the placements weren't.

[@garrett3234]

Storm Singer exactly what i said vital mx is the way to go and they gave Husky the win over Ktm

[@neilpincus4667]

I'm not too convinced the differences are big enough to say any of these bikes are clearly superior or inferior. Honda own the MXGP title and Yamaha owned it the year before. Nobody races a bone stock bike so with some suspension work and a pipe the Honda might be the best? It does have A kit suspension, which obviously just needs the valving tweaked a bit. They're all really good bikes and a look at national level racing around the world is all you need to know that any one of them can win titles. Except maybe the yellow one 😂

[@wes2705]

quite talking to loud music to blurry pictures is just plain stupid

[@food4thots827]

is it just me or is it annoying as fuck when they blur the bike on a close up

[@Aint1S]

poor bikes from the East... even if they tried to go back to diversity with a 2T to recover KTM and Husqvarna market share... they're still behind the 8-Ball. You quit 2T, you may as well give up at everything... especially Suzuki. The RM 250 was the only thing I would ever have bought from Suzuki.

[@johnsonjohnson8133]

Buy a ktm if you want your shifter and brake pedal to fall off

[@Sleepy.Time.]

the butt hurt comments are amusing

[@deadeyenic6833]

Sleepy .Time ikr

[@jordansmith-cm5en]

I'm a Yamaha guy but truth be told ktm is all around the best and of course husky is to because ktm makes them now but they are just expensive to up keep and maintain but ktm dominates the 4 stoke and 2 stroke world

[@glahut93]

save your money and get a service honda af500 2 stroke.

[@bradenhunter5302]

There is no way Yamaha is all the ways in the back

[@catalyst7809]

Braden Hunter The video says so.

[@bangun172]

honda won all the other mag shootouts

[@MotoRacer171]

I have to say the kx450f was the most uncomfortable bike I ever sat on. I got on a 2014 rmz250f and thought it was the most comfortable bike ever. And I usually hate suzuki RIde the bike, thats how you know whats best for YOU. I didnt get either the suzuki or kawi because they were 4 strokes.... eww

[@deandodd4755]

it should be called ktm action magazine. shameful! good bike not a great bike. quality issues still.

[@michaelmartin2763]

Lol at all these butthurt comments that the KTM won. Don't be mad because y'all can't afford one.

[@johninwv807]

Try again Japan, round eye wins this one...

[@rvrbarnacle79]

I'm sure these guys are great riders and all but their opinion means nothing. Is any of them racing pro AMA and top 5 guys lmao. Didn't think so. They just talk and people actually believe them.

[@TheDude111]

An awful edit

[@ditchbangerz623]

first

[@nateb-runs5053]

KTM is trash... yes they are a very durable bike, hard hitting and tough. As far as the suspension goes it is unbelievable how they rate that. Ktms are the most expensive bike on the market and if your a descent rider you instantly have to re valve the front forks and rear suspension(dumping another 2k into suspension on an already 11k bike) Sorry guys I sold my KTM sxf450 factory edition to buy a yami!!!!

[@chicken6944]

I would subscribe but I'm afraid that I'll have to here that god awful music!

[@ChrisMoeckli]

Everyone who rides all the bikes knows that this shootout is a joke.

[@ManAndMachine23]

They can't touch KTM,Ahead of the Game!

[@garrett3234]

E46MRider lmao!! Good one😭

[@pauldayton5285]

YUP !!! The KTM is 💯🔥🔥🔥❗

[@jasonmac6644]

KTM Frames are so ugly