Motogadget m-Blaze Disc Turn Signals - Revival Cycles Tech Talk

A very special component for your motorcycle, the Motogadget m-Blaze Disc turn signals are a customer and shop favorite at Revival Cycles. Stefan illustrates the design, in addition to showing the simplicity of installation and use, of these indicators. The Motogadget m-Blaze Disc can serve as both front and rear signals on your machine (provided you're in compliance with local laws), allowing you to clean up the lighting on your motorcycle.
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[@rollingstone3017]

Involuntary Dismount!!! Love it!!!

[@benkadavilalexander9207]

involuntary dismount

[@VishalKhedkar]

So many beautiful products but no installation videos. That sucks! -_-

[@shds343]

Vishal Khedkar where to buy this in india

[@RanGer-498]

it's been over a year did you do the install video?

[@lasse9118]

you could see that light from the moon! blows my stock signals out of the water!

[@dillonfischer1113]

Love this! I want to do a similar set up, I'm just a little uncertain how I'd run the wiring through the clip-on bars. Since they clamp on at the fork, I'm not sure where the wires would exit discretely. Any suggestions/words of wisdom on how to do that?

[@juanecheyt]

i bought a very gorgeous set of 4 cafe racer grid turn lights and i installed them on a new motorcycle that already had stock led turn lights.... (no relay change needed as i understand)..... they....... WORK...... but..... when they are flashing, the right side flashes in the right cadence, but the left side flashes weird.... in a rather weird pattern and much faster than the right side....... Im a noob at this so i just attached the positive and negative wires to their correspondent wires in the motorcycle wiring and i took notice of how the old lights came wired to replicate the wiring with the new ones.... i assumed that should make them work right..... There is a thing..... my old led turn lights, were ugly as hell, but they came with TWO wires only..... the new ones came with 3 wires....... positive, negative and..... a white wire...... i dont know if it shoud go to ground or what in heaven does it do...... i just left it unwired. should it be connected to fix the left cadence?..... i dont think so, but hell!..... you are the guys who know!..... Please help me if you can. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

[@devilkissctg]

Is it possible by you to make an installation video of this please?

[@RevivalCycles]

We have gotten several requests for an install video on these.... guess we need to raise the priority on this one...we will get one together as soon as time permits.

[@devilkissctg]

ok man (y)

[@retribution999]

Installation video please

[@johndoe9843]

How hard would it be to not replace these with your current turn signals but to add these to the current turn signals?

[@RevivalCycles]

In theory, it would be fairly easy for someone with tools and the patience to read a wire diagram and connect the dots but the complexity really depends on the on the bike in question. In most instances, I'd rate it a 2 out of 5 for difficulty.

[@paulwilliams4031]

i've just put a pair on my 94 ducati they don't ligth up at all i plug in the bulb and it flashes do i need to change my flasher unit thanks paul

[@RevivalCycles]

Reach out to [e-mail]

[@Tony9992]

are this legal in Europe?

[@williamd1891]

Yes but not as rear lights. Front lights only.

[@travisking1223]

Did you find it exceptionally difficult to fit the medium sized rubber spacer into the bar? I got my bars from Indian Aftermarket and I am starting to wonder if the bar is actually machined to have a 17mm opening. I can only get that rubber piece into the bar maybe a quarter of an inch before I start to feel like I am risking breaking the turn signal. I even put some light oil on the rubber sleeve and still no luck.

[@RevivalCycles]

There is a lot of variance between bar thickness and the internal diameter. In this instance it might make sense to use some shim material to take up some space and step down to the next size.

[@aaronmuscat953]

HI revival cycles, I have a euro 2021 indian scout bobber and I really want to get these. are they plug and play with the indian or do I need something else to install them? thanks and great videos

[@RevivalCycles]

That's a really good question and I'm not sure, haven't had an opportunity to do an install on one yet. I am fairly certain the factory bars have an internal plug that will make this install difficult unless new bars are installed.

[@TSlimboi]

Are these disc turn signal compatible with kuryakyn ISO grips?

[@RevivalCycles]

We have not used the kuryakyn grips so we cant comment about those grips specifically. But if they are like normal motorcycle grips that have a hole in the end to access the inner diameter of the bar end then there should be no problem using them with the m-Blaze.

[@georgeerhard1949]

The ISO grips have a plate at the end that closes off the bar. The plate is fastened with four Allen screws, and is removable. The grip itself goes around the bar, or around the throttle sleeve in the case of the right hand bar, and is glued on (very securely - mine are impossible to rotate now that they're fully cured). So once you get that plate off, you should be able to insert the m-Blaze into the hole just like any other grip.

[@COinNL]

I have a question. I have a 1996 Honda Shadow 1100 ACE C2. Will I need to order anything else other than the turn signals like the resister?

[@RevivalCycles]

Yes, unless you are using an M-Unit module you will need resistors OR the Mo-Flash to slow down the fast flashing of the new LED turn signals. revivalcycles.com/products/motogadget-m-flash-relay

[@COinNL]

@@RevivalCycles Cool, thanks. Will I need one for left and right or is 1 enough?

[@ZoltarSoulFunk]

So if the nut is on the inside, how do you tighten them onto the bars?

[@RevivalCycles]

There is a rubber section that expands. No need to get tools inside the bar, it just works. Many bar end systems use similar methods.

[@milkovivaldi]

Excuse, this article is right for rear too?

[@RevivalCycles]

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. These signals have lights with projectors aimed front and rear so that they serve for both on your bike. However, local laws sometimes require front and rear turn signals to be a certain distance from one another.

[@SpeediiEddie]

I noticed that these lights only have two wires meaning they are only to be used as turn signals, is there any possible way to wire these as both running and turn signals?

[@RevivalCycles]

+Eddie Maester They can be used as both but it requires additional components. The m-Unit has this functionality, there are also turn signal controllers on the market or you can install a dual element circuit on each signal.

[@danielhicks1566]

I have these but how do you fit on throttle side without it catching on the throttle handle when twisted

[@RevivalCycles]

Good question. When tightening the the bar end light you've got to provide yourself a mm or two of gap between the grip and light so that there's no friction between them.

[@danielhicks1566]

Revival Cycles thanks for that, i figured that was the case but wasnt sure if it would look right, its actually not noticeable and looks great

[@THECAMPINGGEARREVIEWNETWORK]

I was wondering will these lights fit any handle bar grips? I have a 2015 Fat Bob if that helps, thanks!

[@RevivalCycles]

These are designed to be very flexible in terms of installation, but I have no idea what type of bars are on a Fat Bob. You need to have a hole in the end of the bars that is at least 14mm diameter, and 50mm deep. The grips will need to have a hole in the end to allow access to the handlebar, but beyond that these will work with any grips.

[@DontTellMyMom]

When you install this kind of turn signals in front. Do you still need to have ones in the back?

[@RevivalCycles]

Hi Julius! From our experience here in Austin, Texas, these adequately serve as both front and rear indicators on a machine, as they point light both forwards and backwards and are very bright. However, you will need to check legal restrictions where you live to determine if these will fulfill necessary lighting requirements where you live.

[@DontTellMyMom]

Thanks for the fast reply. I`ll double check.

[@NZ2STROKE]

Julius Noreika hey mate not sure what bike you have but i fitted bar end indicators and also an integrated rear light/indicators on my aprilia and its looks awesome

[@TheKnightsShield]

I notice that when you went over to the bike that you'd installed the turn signals on that you had an old military bike in the background. Considering how the bars on those bikes are usually angled quite a ways backwards, how well would those turn signals work with that bike in relation to front visability? I'm in the UK and would love to use those on a future bike that has those types of bars. Thanks.

[@BryanCS]

+Revival Cycles any answer to this? Thanks!

[@BrockGrimes]

Check out my bobber build/complete vid on my channel my bars are angled back. Also there's a clip of them flashing on my Instagram, for reference.

[@frebel1705]

Hello guys. Thanks for this video. Got some questions, if you could help me. I want to change all electronics on my 07 Triumph Scrambler for the motogadget's parts. I'm thinking to install 2 m-blaze disc on the front and 2 m-blaze pin on back. To install those, what do I need more? (m-unit?, relays?, etc..) Also I'm thinking to install those hand controls (m-switch), do I need something more? maybe some relays also? btw, is that handmade grips you have on that awesome bike? Thanks and sorry for this amount of questions. Love all your videos

[@RevivalCycles]

Felipe Rebelato Hi Felipe, we've got some answers to your questions below: The only additional component necessary to install the turn signals you mentioned would be an LED compatible turn signal relay, we have a few options available on our website with the m-Flash (revivalcycles.com/products/motogadget-m-flash-relay) being just one option. Regarding using the m-Switch controls, these would require an m-Unit for functioning and a complete rewiring of the stock electrical system. Additional items that we find helpful, but not vital, for m-Unit installation are the Motogadget m-Button (revivalcycles.com/products/motogadget-m-button) and our Deluxe Wiring Kit (revivalcycles.com/products/revival-cycles-deluxe-cable-kit). If you were to decide to use an m-Unit, you would not need to use a turn signal relay as this functionality is already incorporated with the m-Unit. For reference, here's a link to the manual for the m-Unit: motogadget.com/media/downloads/manual/munit_v2_manual_en_3.2_k.pdf The grips we have installed on our W650 in this video are these POSH Waffle-Style Grips: revivalcycles.com/products/posh-waffle-style-grips If you have any more questions, shoot us an email at [e-mail] and we'd be glad to assist you!

[@ThatOneGuyYMK]

Question: how do these hold up to impact, let's say, equivalent to dropping a bike, or having it blown over during a freak 30 min wind storm.

[@RevivalCycles]

There are several variables that affect the outcome after a drop. How heavy is the bike, how hard is the ground, etc. But in reality these lights are not built to take a hit like a drop from full height. They are very well made, but I would not count on them to survive a full height fall onto pavement, but they'd stand a good chance hitting soft grass/dirt.

[@KevinLam86]

An install video would be nice. Do you have to drill the handle bars to run the wires?

[@RevivalCycles]

In many cases yes you need to drill the bars to route the wires. But on some bars there are already holes for the wires to exit. We've got this on the list for "101" series.

[@cdj5228]

Will this work for a 2012 Yamaha FJR1300 w/heated grips? I want to add them as additional lights not as a replacement for the stock signals.

[@RevivalCycles]

That should work, but we have not seen the details of how the bars work on the FJR1300. Most bikes have hollow bars and the heated grips normally do not go inside the bars, but are external on top of the throttle tube, and handlebar. That means this should be a fairly standard installation but you will likely need to drill a small hole in the bars for the m-Blaze wires to exit the bars. Adding these as additional lights should work well, and you shouldn't need any additional modifications to the existing turn signal system.

[@GeryRevandra]

does m-Blaze Disc compatible with another brand of bar end mirror like CRG ( CRG Arrow ) ??! ... is there any additional unit like relay , resistor & controller to purchase before installing m-Blaze Disc ??! ...

[@RevivalCycles]

The m-Blaze disk is compatible with most bar end mirrors that mount on the outer diameter of the bar, and not inside the bar. Because the m-Blaze indicators mount inside the bar, they are not compatible with any mirror that also mounts inside the bar. Most of the mirrors that mount outside the bar require that the grips, controls, and switch gear are moved in-board by the thickness of the mirror mount in order to make room for the mirror to attach. The m-Blaze do not need any additional components to function and are designed for 12V systems. However, depending on your specific motorcycle you may need to replace the flasher relay to correct a fast flash error, or add load balance resistors, but this is all dependent on your specific application. If you would like more details on a specific application email [e-mail]

[@boro8638]

Hello!!! i have a ducati sport classic biposto and i like to mount motogadget turn signals, two m-blaze disc on the front and two m-blaze pin on the back; to install those, what do i need more? Tanks for your videos

[@RevivalCycles]

+Boro Depending on how the turn signal flashing is metered you will need to either replace your flasher relay with an LED compatible relay (revivalcycles.com/collections/motogadget-electrical-parts/products/m-wave-blinker-relay or revivalcycles.com/collections/motogadget-electrical-parts/products/motogadget-m-flash-relay) or if your signals are run through the ECU you will need 4 load balance resistors(revivalcycles.com/collections/electrical/products/in-line-load-balance-resistors), one for each signal.

[@athallaaryaseta4023]

so that means you can't use end bar mirror?

[@RevivalCycles]

You can still run bar end mirrors, but the mounting system needs to clamp on the od of the bar, not inside the bar. Mirrors like those from CRG work well.

[@nandjee123]

is there any way possible that we can on use both indicator on at a time...? I want to do that in my BAJAJ AVENGER CRUISE

[@BrockGrimes]

Both indicators? left and right?

[@townsey5612]

Duane allman, is that really you?

[@RevivalCycles]

Probably

[@planejoxcrazyhorse7486]

Can you use these as dual running and turn signals using a intensifier like Joker Machine sells?

[@RevivalCycles]

Yes these can be used as dual element lights by adding a dual element circuit. I am not familiar with the intensifier that Joker sells, but I suspect that it is the same thing as a dual element circuit, which means it isn't really an intensifier but rather a dimmer. The dual element circuits are just a resistor that connects to the running light wire which reduces the power to the light to create a running light brightness, and then the turn signal wire bypasses the resistor giving the full brightness. We sell dual element circuits and for the m-Blaze we recommend the 65-125 LED version for use with the m-Blaze disks revivalcycles.com/products/led-dual-element-circuit. Or you can just source a 75-100 ohm 1/2 watt resistor and make your own.

[@ahmedz5243]

Can we install these in Indian scout bobber with bar end mirror??

[@RevivalCycles]

It is possible to install the m-Blaze disk in any bar that has a hollow inner diameter of 14mm or ~9/16" or 0.550". We do not know what size the bars on a scout are. Also, it is possible to install with a bar end mirror, but the mirror must mount on the outside of the bar not the inside diameter. In some cases the controls and grips can be moved inboard, to make room to mount the mirror, in other cases a custom spacer can be used to extend the bar.

[@ab4469]

do u have a set of red tail light and amber turn signal light in for each side and can it instal or put on a rear axle for harley bike? thanks

[@RevivalCycles]

We do not have a combination tail/brake/turn kit that is specifically designed for Harleys, and the tail/brake/turn LED strips are not configured to mount to the axle very easily.

[@ouroboros5224]

Would these lights work with grips that have a throttle equipped? For instance I have Avon grips with throttle boss.

[@ouroboros5224]

Answered my own question with a little research. Because of the way the throttle boss attaches by being part of the end cap it will not work as these lights would replace the end cap. However you can put these on Avon grips and they work nicely and just use a crampbuster or throttle rocker that is almost just as good.

[@georgeerhard1949]

I have the Kuryakyn ISO grips with the throttle boss attachment. It is sandwiched between the grip and the grip endcap, much like a trim ring. The inner diameter of the mounting ring will likely make mounting these ... difficult! You'll need to assemble the throttle boss onto the light so as to get the rubber expansion tube inside the throttle boss's ring, insert the light and boss combo, fiddle with a very small Allen L wrench to secure the throttle boss, and THEN... if you've not committed hari-kiri over the whole mess... secure the light.

[@ab4469]

can i put that on a front lower fork somewhere at front axle both side of the bike?

[@RevivalCycles]

This is possible, but it would take some special mounting, and you'd have to work out the wire routing. But from a practical standpoint there is no reason you couldn't mount them low on the fork. It might be a bit challenging because the mounting stud is relatively long because of the intended application for mounting inside a handlebar.

[@quentinmoto]

I recently purchased these turn signals from you guys for my 1978 Honda CB750 project. I was hoping to use the stock handlebar and simply flip it upside down for the cafe racer look. However, I'm having trouble removing the bar end weights in order to let the wiring go through the bar. Any suggestion?

[@RevivalCycles]

Depending on how the bar weights are attached it can be a major pain to get them out. Some are welded, and if that is the case, its worth it to just buy new bars. But almost all aftermarket weights are held in with an expanding wedge system, and it really helps to know the design so you can figure out how to remove it. BUT more importantly, its not really a great solution to just flip a set of bars, the hand positions aren't right, and it would be much better to just spend the $33 and get a cheap set of emgo clubmans. That way you don't need to waste time messing with the old bar weights.

[@quentinmoto]

Purchased a set of emgo clubmans. Thank you for your input

[@SureShot_2]

does both of the lights stay on when the headlights are on? do i need to purchase an M-unit with this?

[@RevivalCycles]

Not entirely sure what you mean here, the running light portion will be lit when the headlight is on. You do not need an m-Unit to operate these, but without an m-Unit you will need either an LED compatible signal flasher relay or depending on the bike, Load Balance Resistors.

[@SureShot_2]

excellent. thanks for the help! gonna order these soon.

[@AnthonyUFOLundell]

COOL! I don't have blinkers on my bike. Do you think they would work OK on 20" apes? or would the blinkers blind me at night, lol

[@RevivalCycles]

hmmm, that is an interesting thing to consider. I guess it would depend if your bar ends are in your field of view, but also, because the lights are directional, you could adjust the rotation in the bar so the focused light wasn't as distracting. I don't think there is any issue with physically mounting the lights in an Ape bar, and the wiring would just be slightly longer than a normal install, so no problem.

[@AnthonyUFOLundell]

Revival Cycles cool. Thanks 🤘

[@ab4469]

do u have red tail light and amber turn signal light in one

[@RevivalCycles]

The m-Blaze disk does not come with a red tail light, and as these are bar mounted they would probably not be a very effective tail/brake light location. Motogadget did just release an all in one stalk mount turn signal that does have tail/brake/turn functionality. We should be getting that up on the site soon.

[@kennethcorpuz7431]

can I use both those barends signal and the stock turn signal at the same time?

[@RevivalCycles]

Yep, that is no problem

[@shekharmehta3307]

Hi whether this bar end will fit Ducati Diavel model handle bar ?

[@RevivalCycles]

If the Diavel has a hollow handlebar with an inner diameter of more than 1/2" or 13mm then you should be able to fit these. Depending on how ducati is handling the turn signal flasher relay, you may need to add load balance resistors, or replace the flasher relay.

[@rafeco7099]

how do you remove the handle bar weight on the m109r boulivard?

[@RevivalCycles]

Normally it is just a screw from the outside that is used to expand a wedge or other blind locking device. To remove you loosen the exposed fastener a little bit, and push in on it to disengage the wedge, then the whole end weight and wedge mechanism should pull out. If you need more details you'll need to research on your bike specifically, or consult the manual.

[@rafeco7099]

I wish not the case on mine. but thanks for replying @@RevivalCycles

[@CrazyMasonic]

Am I able to use these turn signals with a bar end mirror?

[@RevivalCycles]

Yes, but the mirror must mount on the Outer diameter of the bars. Obviously the inside of the bar is occupied by the turn signal.

[@CrazyMasonic]

Revival Cycles ok sweet, thanks a lot

[@westerncivilization]

No load resistor. Odd.

[@MJT-DA]

can you install CRG bar end mirrors? I want to turn my 1988-2007 ex250 ninja into a street fighter.

[@RevivalCycles]

I'm not clear if you are interested in having our shop perform the install or simply asking if the m-Blaze can be installed with CRG mirrors. Inquires for shop work can be emailed to [e-mail], and the short answer on installing m-Blaze with CRG mirrors is that as long as the mirror mounts on the outside of the bar it is possible. If the mirror uses the inside of the bar it is not compatible with the m-Blaze.

[@MJT-DA]

Sorry for the late reply. However I wanted to know if they can extend in order to fit the CRG bar end mirrors. It's ok if you guys don't know; i will find a way to add mirrors to my bike! :D

[@phile2573]

Are these compatible with bar end mirrors?

[@RevivalCycles]

+Phi Le They are compatible with mirrors that slip over the bar, like the m-Rear. They are not compatible with mirrors that are mounted inside the handle bar .

[@noslomoTV]

I truly and absolutely, with all my heart , hate these damn things . I joined a motorcycle mechanic shop for a month to gain experience working on engines and 80 percent of the time , this all of end up doing , screwing these on .

[@michaelslack5269]

Will this fit 1 inch Suzuki bars?

[@RevivalCycles]

If your bars are hollow tube, they will. If they have a thread insert they’ll need some modification. Check out tech support on our website.

[@varshan6559]

It is suitable for yamaha rx 135?

[@RevivalCycles]

What voltage does the RX run? if it is setup for 12V system, then these should work. If the voltage is correct, the only other thing is to make sure you have hollow bars and you can physically install them.

[@vast-dom130]

which mirror are you using in this video? thx

[@RevivalCycles]

I assume you are refering to the mirror on the w650 demonstration bike. That is a CRG Blindsight 2" mirror that has been sandblasted for a matte finish. www.constructorsrg.com/mirrors/blindsight.html

[@fabianoH5N1]

how you doing the caple routing on clip ons ?

[@RevivalCycles]

In most instances we drill a 1/8” hole in the end of the bar cap and use vinyl loom to protect the wires when the exit the bar. We also use mini connectors on the wires inside the bar so that you can remove the signals to replace grips without removing the wiring entirely. You can find the Mizu P25 connectors on our site. Www.Revivalcycles.com.

[@fabianoH5N1]

@@RevivalCycles ok thanks alot . will check it out

[@ChristoSantos]

How much does it price? I am from México

[@RevivalCycles]

These lights are available here revivalcycles.com/collections/for-your-ride-lighting-turn-signals/products/motogadget-m-blaze-disc-led-turn-signals and the website will calculate shipping during check out.

[@sanjubattase5870]

From where I buy this...🤔

[@RevivalCycles]

revivalcycles.com/collections/for-your-ride-lighting-turn-signals/products/motogadget-m-blaze-disc-led-turn-signals

[@mrfz09]

Are they light emitting diode emitters? Lol

[@RevivalCycles]

Yes, these are LED emitters

[@cjschmitt4882]

But I dn't want the Motogadget logo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@swapnilsingh9159]

O gandalf with a t-shirt and without hat.......