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Showdown: 2022 Harley-Davidson Nightster vs Indian Scout Rogue

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Motorcycle.com

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Күн бұрын

The classic American V-Twin rivalry between Harley-Davidson and Indian continues, this time with the Nightster in Harley's corner and the Scout Rogue in Indian's. Both motorcycles can trace their lineage back to the early days for both companies, but these modern versions represent what should be classic examples of lightweight V-Twin cruising. The result couldn't be any more different. Follow along as Motorcycle.com's Ryan Adams and Troy Siahaan tell you why.
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@Phantom_yyc
@Phantom_yyc Жыл бұрын
I picked up my Scout Rogue 3 weeks ago. that bike is phenomenal. once I adjusted my suspension to the right setting, it was a bit stiffer but I wasn't bottoming out on every bloody bump. Riding the scout, fast or slow, is fun. it scrapes around every turn (which for me being a 22-year-old male, is so satisfying lol). looks wise, I agree, the Scout is by far a much better bike; it's more comfortable, the seating position is better and the 10-inch mini apes are so comfy. The only thing I don't like about it is the MASSIVE pipes it has (but every scout owner switches the exhaust first lol). Great review guys!
@spacecoastz4026
@spacecoastz4026 Жыл бұрын
Just be careful on those peg scrapes....you don't want to leverage up the rear wheel and go down. Enjoy your bike.
@Sincity89103
@Sincity89103 Жыл бұрын
Picking up the chief sport today at 3:30pm awesome bike
@Billuhhanks
@Billuhhanks Жыл бұрын
I test rode a 23 nightster special at a dealer and was really impressed. I liked the look and technology and how fun and responsive the throttle was (later found out it was set to “sport” mode)… anyway they said this bike would cost me in the late teens out the door. The standard version would be a little bit less. Went to an Indian dealer the next day and test rode a used 21 scout bobber with low miles as well as some upgrades (seat exhaust and suspension I believe). Boom that’s 3 of the main things that need upgrading already taken care of. I thought this one was just as fun as the nightster for 7 grand less. A no brainer. So to anyone who’s looking at both of these make sure you do your due diligence and shop around. You can’t go wrong with either one.
@timvaughn5588
@timvaughn5588 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Indian scout rogue. It's just a beautiful cruiser.
@humbleservant1294
@humbleservant1294 2 жыл бұрын
With no balls
@hipposnakeyo
@hipposnakeyo 2 жыл бұрын
If I want a cruiser, looks is going to be very important and the Indian just wins.
@orhancebi5288
@orhancebi5288 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.
@richardkoch605
@richardkoch605 2 жыл бұрын
Harley has other cruisers. The nightster / sportster go was to be sportier.. mission accomplished
@richardkoch605
@richardkoch605 2 жыл бұрын
Oops goal
@humbleservant1294
@humbleservant1294 2 жыл бұрын
No I disagree all that plastic shit all over it
@barrygoodson4952
@barrygoodson4952 11 ай бұрын
I want a cruiser with performance and handling so I guess that means buy a Nighter . You can go slow on anything so you get two worlds with the Nightster.
@josephawad3493
@josephawad3493 6 ай бұрын
My Indian Scout Rogue is unreal and amazing to ride. The suspension on it is a bit stiff but does not make performance awkward at all!! Can't help feeling there is some Harley catering here.
@jasonp1177
@jasonp1177 Ай бұрын
They try to push the scout doesn't make power up high, um it makes more tq and drastically higher at low rpms to mid range where it makes more hp all the way through the rev range which it's power band is 3-7500. Then take a jab at offering OEM upgrades yet that's Harleys mo, buy a lacking motorcycle to spend more on parts that should have came from factory. Definitely biased. They have the same lean angle like 31 degrees also. There is a reason why you see scouts and not nightsters.
@flipkoofx1137
@flipkoofx1137 2 жыл бұрын
I owned the 22 HD Nightster for 40 days. I love the bike but unfortunately the bike died with only 95 miles on the odometer. Harley is having some major quality issues with the new nightster for many owners are reporting the same issue I had which is the control module failing. I really wished the nightster didn’t have this quality issue because it is an amazing bike.
@adithyachennamadhavuni6155
@adithyachennamadhavuni6155 2 жыл бұрын
Damn!
@gautamasakyamuni6688
@gautamasakyamuni6688 2 жыл бұрын
Not only Nighster, all these new engined bikes (Sportster/ADV) have the same issues.
@keeponrunning_Andrew
@keeponrunning_Andrew 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having the EXACT SAME ISSUE! my dealer said Harley hasn't heard of the issue yet. Sounds like someone isn't telling me the truth:( I knew it was more than just me. Had to be.
@humbleservant1294
@humbleservant1294 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any video you can post below? Post a video on your channel bud… 😆 I smell horse shit
@humbleservant1294
@humbleservant1294 2 жыл бұрын
@@keeponrunning_Andrew Post some proof on your channel…. I’ll wait
@galja6889
@galja6889 2 жыл бұрын
Tremedously Honest ,very straightfoward , and immensely helpful Evaluation. Unfortunately rarely seen in Reviews. Thank you!
@johnnydangerously7186
@johnnydangerously7186 2 жыл бұрын
Indians overall design and fit and finish seem to be superior to HD.
@seanwise781
@seanwise781 2 жыл бұрын
and performance..always hahaha
@gustavorojas8196
@gustavorojas8196 2 жыл бұрын
Strongly agree!👍🇺🇸
@ronlheureux7623
@ronlheureux7623 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the HD in person. I hope so if you are ragging on it. Opinions are like asses, everybody has one.
@seanwise781
@seanwise781 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronlheureux7623 HD is dead and will continue to die lol nothing american or quality about them for A loooong time now.
@johneli495
@johneli495 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Consumer Reports rating Victory highly in regards to reliability, second only to the Japanese brands. Harley was somewhere at the bottom. Since Indian is made by the same people that made Victory it should be far superior to Harley.
@ronlheureux7623
@ronlheureux7623 2 жыл бұрын
I ride a Sportster for several years. I immediately switched the bars for track bars with 4” pull back risers. I loved that setup. Changed out the stock seat, as well for a two up. The suspension was brutal on my low back, though. Never again, Indian or no.
@Lordturisas1
@Lordturisas1 2 жыл бұрын
Scouts (idk about the Rogue) have the same suspension issue. I'm upgrading my Bobber's shocks in a few months, but both bikes suffer from dogshit suspension.
@viperq
@viperq 2 жыл бұрын
Out of those two, the Nightster. IMO I'd go with the Honda Rebel 1100 and save some cash.
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 2 жыл бұрын
After riding both, the Indian edges out the Honda in certain ways. Both are great but for style and pure sound the Indian is where its at.
@orhancebi5288
@orhancebi5288 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanjoestar8839 I can confirm that too.
@viperq
@viperq 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordanjoestar8839 My brother in-law owns a scout, probably the best looking cruiser under $15k.
@tinman3586
@tinman3586 2 жыл бұрын
Looks are subjective. Preformance and features are not. The Scout looks awesome, definitely agree with that. The performance isn't too bad either but it lags behind the much cheaper Rebel. The Rebel is much lighter, faster, more nimble, handles better, has much better suspension and lean angle. Indian has it on style but they need to up their game on features if they're asking close to 15k for a Scout. Need to start integrating the Ride Command system into the Scout.
@timbrwolf1121
@timbrwolf1121 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinman3586 For $2000 revolution performance can turn both a scout sixty and scout since they share bottom ends, into 79" engines. They replace the jugs and get you over 100 horsepower. The scout sixty is actually the best value on the market.
@yoshit9819
@yoshit9819 2 жыл бұрын
The scout looks much better. That Harley motor looks like the robot from lost in space
@Mayjay87
@Mayjay87 Жыл бұрын
I have the Indian Scout Bobber. (Not the Rogue) I'm 100% in love with it. Everything mentioned in this video is just the type of things you deal with, with this type of bike. But, the one small thing I absolutely hate about the Scout, the gear indicator. Everytime you pull in the clutch, the gear indicator goes blank, you release the clutch lever, and it does a countdown to the gear you're already in. Say you're pulling up to a stoplight with traffic, and it turns green, you downshift, and release the clutch into second gear, it'll start in 6th, to 5th, to 4th, to 3rd, then to second. First time I noticed it, I thought I was in 6th gear, then noticed it counting down. Dumb idea.
@SidewaysBurnouts
@SidewaysBurnouts Жыл бұрын
i wonder if they will do a chopper like victory did. the norman reedus custom really makes me rethink every thing i disliked about their more dressed up bagger with victorian style and tasseled leather. They really impressed me with the new scouts and chiefs. I think my discipline to not buy one asap will break down before summer.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 2 жыл бұрын
I will pass on both but I do like the Indian FTR-1200 ..
@marcoluoma3770
@marcoluoma3770 2 жыл бұрын
I went to the Indian dealer with checkbook in hand for an FTR, based on specs and reviews. But the test ride completely put me off, and I went home without it.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcoluoma3770 the old Gen on the 19-18 set up with nobies? Or the 2022 with revised suspension, 17’s, and sport rubber?
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcoluoma3770 So you rode the Newer Indians with 17" wheels.. It's 500# lots of power very stable in the Curves.. I think my Next bike will be the Yamaha Tracer 9 or the T-700 ... It would be a lot of work to add luggage to the Indian FTR-1200 I have not seen many offerings in the aftermarket..
@marcoluoma3770
@marcoluoma3770 2 жыл бұрын
@@toofastnobrakes Yeah, the newer version. Loved the torque, but couldn’t make it turn. My background is sport bikes which may have something to do with it.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcoluoma3770 weird. I grew up sport bikes but I thought It handled great “for what it is”
@orhancebi5288
@orhancebi5288 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely and 100% without any doubts... Indian scout Rouge.
@taronyoung5768
@taronyoung5768 2 жыл бұрын
So, if you upgrade the suspension then the Indian woes seems to go away?
@simoncantelo6902
@simoncantelo6902 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone has mentioned about the lack of finish on the left side of the Rev Max it looks like the right side was designed by Porche and the left was designed by some school kids......😂
@robbyclark6915
@robbyclark6915 2 жыл бұрын
You should compare these bikes with the rebel 11oo next, especially the Harley
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
It wins on price alone these two are stupidly over priced even for a harley
@robbyclark6915
@robbyclark6915 2 жыл бұрын
@@gigi9467 I love and ride Harleys….. but I could not agree MORE with you! That little nightmare bike is for people with more $$ than 🧠
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyclark6915 same here man, one street bob and 3 street glide all new, i woukdnt be caught dead either one of these
@tinman3586
@tinman3586 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Rebel 1100 owns both of these bikes.
@petrol11
@petrol11 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinman3586 Rebel to me seems completely sterile, it's some kinda hybrid naked bike thing again... sure it may have a more racey engine but... it's for a cruiser and i just don't get it. Identity crisis thing just like this Nightster. I don't look at it and think cruiser at all
@Beastius24
@Beastius24 2 жыл бұрын
I trst rode both. I ended up with the Indian Scout, because I just felt better on it. Also my short fingers were not long enough to reach the clutch comfortably on the Harley
@tobylopez445
@tobylopez445 2 жыл бұрын
Naaaaaaaaaaaa Indian all day long. I don't know what seat you sat on, but my Indian scout 60 has a seat that I ride for over 90 to 100 miles without stopping or needing to take a break from my seat. I am 74yrs old and have been riding almost all of my life and this seat and suspension are spot on, I also do a lot of freeway driving and never had a problem with my bike. you probably have a skinny butt and need some cushion? be safe and ride forever!
@sli8462
@sli8462 2 жыл бұрын
I can support what they said. I have a Scout Bobber and the stock seat was horrible for long rides. I upgraded to the floating 1920 tractor seat and it was like night and day. I also had the mustang seat which was also light years difference from the stock bobber seat
@houseofroos
@houseofroos 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. A little repetitive to the point that I started getting confused about your conclusions.
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 2 жыл бұрын
What I really appreciate is Harleys initiative to use recycled plastic Tupperware on their new motors. Dyno chart shows HD needs to focus on the tune but it's good enough right out of the box. Dial it in a bit and they'll make solid power. Rear suspension on the Indian and better brake pads negate all complaints.
@humbleservant1294
@humbleservant1294 2 жыл бұрын
As well as a new seat is 500$
@humbleservant1294
@humbleservant1294 2 жыл бұрын
That’s ruffly 4000k more than the Nightster
@KevinButler816
@KevinButler816 2 жыл бұрын
So Harley said they wanted to put the Sport back into Sportster but now it’s to sporty ?
@MauricioBarragan
@MauricioBarragan 2 жыл бұрын
Getting my storm blue scout rogue this month!
@text1403
@text1403 2 жыл бұрын
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@BruceKent00
@BruceKent00 2 жыл бұрын
No contest, the Scout anyday of the week.
@marcoluoma3770
@marcoluoma3770 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want either of these bikes, but I think HD deserves a lot of credit for using up-to-date technology and ignoring the shrieks of the traditionalist haters.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I’m sure it makes great power. I with the revmax didn’t have The 30° offset crank. It makes it fire Like a 90° V twin. Which is cool if you like Ducati’s and cross plane P-twins. But the standard firing 60° twin in the Indian and the classic V-rod just sound so much better. It reminds me of a muscle car
@jbradkilpatrick
@jbradkilpatrick 2 жыл бұрын
It’s fun having Harley-Davidson versus Indian again and that this conversation can take place. Personally, I’ll take the Indian though.
@IRLtrolls
@IRLtrolls 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why v twin cruisers only get one front brake rotor.
@Szlejer
@Szlejer 2 жыл бұрын
Because muricans have no clue how to break correctly, anyway...
@mosgor
@mosgor 2 жыл бұрын
Indian Scout Rogue looks really cool, while Harley Nightster looks a little too unfinished. Indian Scout Rogue will be my choice among these. Nightster will also compete with the Honda Rebel 1100, (maybe that's the point?) Indian Scout Rogue is sort of the American cruiser among these two.
@devonnobles1083
@devonnobles1083 2 жыл бұрын
Rode the nightster today. It was a lot of fun! I agree the chassis and ergos betray the awesomeness of the engine. I'm more interested than ever in the bronx. But i would not be disappointed to have a nightster. I know I could buy a lot more performance for the money but those bikes are stupid fast. And I agree the scout is a much better cruiser, but it is not capable of ever being as exciting. The nightster made me feel like a hooligan. There is something fun about riding something fast that wasn't really built well for it. The nightster is so eager even though it probably isn't faster than an mt07. I genuinely felt like I might fall off it if I wasnt careful and that felt exciting. Handling was nimble. Turn in felt agile although transitions begged for a more sporty profile tire. Body position on most nakeds at street pace is just for show, but when ground clearance is limited it becomes more essential. I do wish it felt a little less dead below 4k rpm (more like the cp2). But that just made it really hard to just cruise. This bike would get me in trouble. I just kept twisting the throttle! I couldn't help myself!! And yet I never reached triple digits. Living in illinois where the speed limits are 55 and the twisty roads are few and far between, I could see myself giggling my way around on the nightster.
@gaborpapp6253
@gaborpapp6253 Жыл бұрын
The Bronx is out, its called the Sportster S
@filoIII
@filoIII 6 ай бұрын
MT07 doesn't handle worth a flip. FZ/MT never have.
@filoIII
@filoIII 6 ай бұрын
@@gaborpapp6253 No no no
@mandizzle0517
@mandizzle0517 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the power the nightster brings to the table, but it’s so expensive!! I’d rather have an MT07 but I’m such a Harley fanboy I’m almost willing to drop the money on the nightster. For a retro throwback a kawi z900rs fills that void but man, that nighter power plant really rocked my world.
@user-tm9ho3bm4v
@user-tm9ho3bm4v Жыл бұрын
For the money nothing beats the 900rs.
@filoIII
@filoIII 6 ай бұрын
FZ/MT lines NEVER handled well.
@bradfigiel2203
@bradfigiel2203 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Indian scout 60 and a FTR1200. On the Scout when I first purchased I thought the same negatives on the suspension. However, when you set the preload to your weight it makes a night and day difference. As a cruiser with feet forward your butt and spine take the majority of the hits regardless of shock compared to a sport bike that's spreads it over your legs and arms. I have had HDs Streets and the fact that HD doesn't support them is a turn off and feel that's what will happen to Nightster and Sportster. The Bronx would have been the correct next step outside the box like the Pan America. P S. If you haven't tried a FTR you must. It's like the Kaw Z900RS but more fun.
@Jmacfann
@Jmacfann 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but they both just look cheap. Their not at $14k. For my money I would get a softail standard. That M8 engine looks the part and is a damn stump puller
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
14k is insane. !!!!
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 2 жыл бұрын
So, less HP, worse chassis and brakes on a lesser frame? Makes no sense...
@jamessouthworth1699
@jamessouthworth1699 2 жыл бұрын
I've had nothing but Harley's for the past 15 years but I don't see anything on the showroom floor that would bring me back for another one. Given the current choices I would either go with Indian or something Japanese before I bought a brand new Harley.
@TheNichola6
@TheNichola6 2 жыл бұрын
Indian has the Polaris feel and I own a Polaris atv I’ll stick with Harley Davidson
@brando81
@brando81 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, I likey wouldn't buy anything new. I'll stick with my 13' wide glide, wouldn't trade it for anything. 🍻
@TruckingToPlease
@TruckingToPlease 2 жыл бұрын
At those prices, buy a crate motor and man up and build your own uniquely identifiable bike that suits you.
@UncleRobsGarage
@UncleRobsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Got rid of my harley ,and love my vulcan 900.
@SadaEKE
@SadaEKE 2 жыл бұрын
It's been 7 years since Polaris revived the Scout and H&D still can't come up with a semi decent competitor. That says a lot about H&D's engineering and design departments.
@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC707
@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC707 2 жыл бұрын
You wouldve thought HD, with their new motor, wouldve created a more powerful motor! LOL............
@user-tm9ho3bm4v
@user-tm9ho3bm4v Жыл бұрын
@@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC707 Or one that can keep running a few years before failing...
@hyeGUY25
@hyeGUY25 Жыл бұрын
First thing I changed on my Harley is the seat. The sundowner made by harley works way better and softer. Also got the reach handlebars but haven’t installed it yet.
@flaviomytube
@flaviomytube 2 жыл бұрын
The Nighster is a Harley of aesthetics only. The Scout Rogue is spectacular, much more American, both in style and sound.
@text1403
@text1403 2 жыл бұрын
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@ejdtm
@ejdtm 2 жыл бұрын
That HD Nightster is ugly. Did they even try to make it look good?
@yoshit9819
@yoshit9819 2 жыл бұрын
It's an ugly bike
@sli8462
@sli8462 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like an American bite off of the Honda Rebel...
@dormantmenace
@dormantmenace 2 жыл бұрын
@@sli8462 Sept the sporsters brand bin around another 25 years than the rebel.
@sli8462
@sli8462 2 жыл бұрын
@@dormantmenace yea, but the older models looked nice. This one looks like garbage. I'd take an 883 with this new engine any day. Not sure what they were thinking.
@bmagada
@bmagada 2 жыл бұрын
@@sli8462 except the rebel has far less plastic. I think Harley is missing why people like the rebel.
@YungChief
@YungChief Жыл бұрын
For the same performance your better off going with a Yamaha MT09 for alot cheaper vs the HD Sportster. Indian Scout FTW Easily.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
Great, truthful, review. What a contrast on these 2 bikes. I am an old guy. Raced motocross professionally and owned many bikes. Until recently you never saw many comparisons with Harley’s to competition. Harley’s were always too heavy, underpowered, and no tech but expensive. Past few years that has changed as competition is more fierce which helps the consumer. I always lumped cruisers in with naked bikes. Harley’s are different from regular nakeds as feet forward. Feet forward came about because of the very tall, under square motor. Mid foot pegs would really compromise lean angle so forwards came about. Truthfully that makes the parachute type riding position with feet forward and bars pulled back, lounge chair. Long story short, your decision was based on the tractor style engine vs higher revving sport engine? Cruisers are slower, just cruising? I would not buy the Indian for the shocks and the halogen headlight. I do not routinely mod bikes. Harley is ready to go. You can go slow(cruise) or go fast.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
The nightster is 50 pounds less weight. With the fuel under the seat, bike is more mass centralized. The tank is the air box. With the engine part of stress member of fame must really help handing especially with better suspension. Harley gives you more from the factory. No mods really needed
@richardkoch605
@richardkoch605 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly . When you want to go slow you go slow..it least the nightster isn't killing your kidneys
@boxingfan2469
@boxingfan2469 2 жыл бұрын
The Indian rogue looks nice
@dearbulls
@dearbulls Жыл бұрын
I don't know the point of nightster . If I want a naked bike I'll get a naked bike and it'd be most likely cheaper as well
@kennethschauer1801
@kennethschauer1801 Жыл бұрын
Indian scout bobber
@DallasBurgher
@DallasBurgher 8 күн бұрын
Not a big fan of cruisers so I pick the HD. Looks like the standards of the sixties.
@hulkhatepunybanner
@hulkhatepunybanner 6 ай бұрын
*The Indian Scout is the true successor to Harley's XL Sportster.* The new Nightster is the H-D Street 500/750 all grown up.
@michaelbell9827
@michaelbell9827 2 жыл бұрын
You should compare the nightster to the rebel 1100. Please!!!!
@damienogden9706
@damienogden9706 2 жыл бұрын
Not American but it would have been nice to see the Rebel 1100 comparison!
@orenovadia6590
@orenovadia6590 2 жыл бұрын
was nightster dropped? one mirror is missing.. i love the idea behind the nightster first harley since the vrod i would want!
@Motorcyclecom
@Motorcyclecom 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that in the video... the nut on the bottom backed itself off while riding, so we stowed the mirror in our pack.
@donellclemons2195
@donellclemons2195 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about the nightster but went with the z900rs cafe. Better in every single way
@filoIII
@filoIII 6 ай бұрын
Except chain-drive.
@DailyDrivenBikes_1
@DailyDrivenBikes_1 2 жыл бұрын
They both look like the designers watched sons of anarchy before they designed them. Lol
@dormantmenace
@dormantmenace 2 жыл бұрын
I used to hate that look. But after riding with no fairing... fuck that! Sucks. And the giant chp windshield was way to gay. Actually I didn't like anything about the club style look. But after buying a traditional low harley. 2015 lowrider. It sucked!!! Jacked up longer suspension Club style bikes are not about looks is what I found out. They are about making the bike handle. Low bikes don't handle for crap. Now the bikes in soa.. Basically just have a cafe style faring and silly paint job thoe. And yes even those tiny fairing make a difference
@jojodelgado5244
@jojodelgado5244 2 жыл бұрын
As long as I can remember Harley is one of my favorite motorcycle..my first Harley was 883..so so sad..it's been the heart and soul on most old Harley riders...I love to take it easy after a long day from work...well good luck to all be safe and have fun. Sometimes changes not always a good thing specifically if you have something special going...why throw away your legacy...💐💔❓
@bmagada
@bmagada 2 жыл бұрын
They're attempting to get a foothold in the new market space but took their sweet time getting there and not only over charge for the privilege, but their competition offers tech as standard and at lower cost. I mean Harley still wants people to pay extra for colors and ABS. I hope they course correct because competition is good for the market, and then hopefully all the bikes get better, but its gonna take some work.
@jojodelgado5244
@jojodelgado5244 2 жыл бұрын
@@bmagada if Harley stopped being what no what they are they will dominate the motorcycle..I was heartbroken on what they did to BUELL...it was my first Naked American Sports Bake..and if anyone notice it every Naked bike now has what the Buell mark.....but life must go on...
@neil2no1
@neil2no1 3 ай бұрын
Cool man i live in clay county & that's where my bike is from!
@RossGoneRogue
@RossGoneRogue 10 ай бұрын
I just picked up a Rogue Sixty 2 days ago and agree with most everything in this video. The only real drawback really is the suspension is stiff as heck compared to a more traditional cruiser (coming from a Honda Shadow). That was a very comfy bike, but woefully underpowered. Indian knocked it out of the park with how flat the torque curve is and how well balanced the bike feels. To me it's almost as easy to handle as the Yamaha 250 I rode in my MSF class.
@TheOverisel
@TheOverisel 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you guys race them from a roll?
@JumpingWatermelons
@JumpingWatermelons 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone in the media brings up the hideous left side of the Nighter. OMG Harley get your shit together.
@19MAD95
@19MAD95 2 жыл бұрын
Please do HD LRS VS Indian CBDH!
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@texttwenty-nine1627
@texttwenty-nine1627 Жыл бұрын
I haven't ridden a Nightster yet, but I did sit on one and looked at one. I do ride a 2020 Scout bobber and a 2015 Yamaha Fz07. The initial feeling of the Nightster is very similar to my Fz. Just a lower profile, more buttons and du-dads, slightly better seat, and about 3x the price. I'd like to actually ride a Nightster and compare it to my Scout. Not gunna lie tho. I do like how light weight the Nightster felt. It would probably be alot of fun!
@JA-zh5xi
@JA-zh5xi 2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of either one, but if someone forced me to ride a fake Honda I guess it would be the Harley-Honda. All the looks and sound of a Honda at a higher cost. I’ll keep my big twin Harleys.
@wanderleisantosfilho5765
@wanderleisantosfilho5765 2 жыл бұрын
I'd compare it to the regular scout with a 3.5 in rear shock. Rogue sacrificed comfort for nothing.
@dojiijii
@dojiijii 2 жыл бұрын
The taller front tire on the Rogue makes for better handling than the Scout; I wish they offered a Rogue based on the Scout rather than the Bobber.
@cprooks
@cprooks 2 жыл бұрын
@@dojiijii Apparently You Can Put A Rogue Wheel On A Regular Scout
@thebigempty_5792
@thebigempty_5792 Жыл бұрын
I was interested in the Indian....knew nothing about the Nightster. I prefer standard bikes like the Triumph Bonneville T120. I really like the mid controls of the Nightster. I now own a 1979 Yamaha XS1100 that's pretty tricked out and looks similar to these. Maybe I'll just stick with my old school Yamaha for 3k and I get comments all the time HAHA.
@freisianpug
@freisianpug 2 жыл бұрын
Surely only in America could these be seen as "small" cruisers...
@davidgearardo1788
@davidgearardo1788 10 ай бұрын
nightster all day, I love them both , but the nightster is more comfortable to me, I hate forward controls always have. you can get a mid kit for the scout , but the factory controls in the harley are perfect
@vimalnelson4378
@vimalnelson4378 Жыл бұрын
Why the video is blacking out so often?
@JelloThatsMellow
@JelloThatsMellow 2 жыл бұрын
For the money I'd rather get a triumph Speed Twin.
@lmallanao
@lmallanao Жыл бұрын
14:51 how did the text end up being the bar and mirror? Both are great looking bikes!
@MidKnight2142
@MidKnight2142 9 ай бұрын
One of the major issues I noticed though, if you are looking for a good "cruiser" bike and you are comparing the nightster and scout, I would honestly scratch my head then point at the Harley Softail Standard. Especially considering the fact its basically the same price as these 2. It is a heavier bike but doesn't really feel lacking in power or torque. Otherwise I definitely agree that the Indian would probably be the better "cruiser" but I would probably pick the Nightster Special mainly for its added features (cruise control, more driver aids, and the electronic display.)
@King-ww1kz
@King-ww1kz 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on the comparison
@adithyachennamadhavuni6155
@adithyachennamadhavuni6155 2 жыл бұрын
Missing market price by 3k by both the companies. Rebel 1100 with a better seat and shocks will be much more worth it!!
@vanuelbaker3434
@vanuelbaker3434 2 жыл бұрын
No see y'all are wrong sportsters are a proper cruiser I just did a 1300 mile trip on my 92 Harley 48 hugger
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@jimscarnivorekitchen4731
@jimscarnivorekitchen4731 Жыл бұрын
On Harleys website the Nightster is listed under sport not cruiser.
@JohnEHawk
@JohnEHawk 2 жыл бұрын
Nice scoots, I'll keep my Victory. Great review as always. Appreciate the content.
@LARGO125
@LARGO125 2 жыл бұрын
Really wish Victory would bring back the Gunner and the Kingpin as a Victory line in the Indian stable. The looks of those bikes to this day blows anything Indian and HD have out of the water. Only exceptions being the new Chief Darkhorse and HD Lowrider S.
@richardkoch605
@richardkoch605 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of the new nightster/ sportster was Harley wanted to make it more sporty.. well they did so how can you say Harley missed the mark??
@bmagada
@bmagada 2 жыл бұрын
because they already had The Bronx on the table which everyone wants.....then canceled it and made it a cruiser because they saw the rebel making sales. Honestly, it does the same things......for waaaaaay more money. Like they're trying to nudge their way into a market place where no one would rather buy the same bike at that price point with a metric crap ton of plastic.
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@peterrestaino7047
@peterrestaino7047 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the unfinished side of the sportster. I dont like fake looking right side, looks a little fisher price
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@filoIII
@filoIII 6 ай бұрын
Isn't the Rogue 60 a better comparison, eng. size-wise??? 975 to 999cc or something?
@dennisd7405
@dennisd7405 2 жыл бұрын
i still say a new indian spirit with the ftr motor leather saddle bags softail frame windshield and cruise control now we r talking cruising
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@PotatoeJoe69
@PotatoeJoe69 2 жыл бұрын
The Scout is a better bike in every single way, point blank. Harleys chasing weird fantasies with these weird bikes they keep coming out with, and they're gonna flop like the Street did.
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@hyeGUY25
@hyeGUY25 Жыл бұрын
Also that dip in power saved my ass the other night, right as I took off someone cut me off and I was able to slow it down, if I had catedlbolted from the line I might’ve crashed into that car. Harley is great around town
@SidewaysBurnouts
@SidewaysBurnouts Жыл бұрын
Indian has doubled down on integrating victory into their main brand. All the horsepower none of the death wobble.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with seat height. Why scooter seat height with scooter type suspension travel
@kevinpojman135
@kevinpojman135 Жыл бұрын
I luv my HD nightster. Light, Comfortable and Extremely maneuverable. Sport mode is insanely fast.
@gjo59
@gjo59 2 жыл бұрын
How did you lose the right mirror on the Nightster?
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@RogueMI6
@RogueMI6 Жыл бұрын
I think you have to correct that you were riding the Indian Scout Rogue 60 with 999cc and not the 70 with the 1133cc. You can tell by the valve cover.
@humbleservant1294
@humbleservant1294 2 жыл бұрын
So someone can spend 14k to get the Indian out the door then spend 3k more just to have a proper ride on the road…. Ie new seat 500$ rear suspension 1500$ front brake set up 1000$ No thanks…. Lord knows what’s possible with that extra 4 thousand dollars put into the Nightster 4 grand because the Nightster comes in 1k less…
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@monk-man13
@monk-man13 2 жыл бұрын
The Harley looks awkward. Indian engine looks better and the body looks better designed. Only thing nightster has is the brembo brake
@gustavorojas8196
@gustavorojas8196 2 жыл бұрын
True and the Indian already has abs too.
@monk-man13
@monk-man13 2 жыл бұрын
@@gustavorojas8196 very true. Only thing is that Harley dealerships are everywhere and after owning both Harley’s and Indians, I feel that Harley’s feel less cheap and better put together. But hey that’s just me
@SidewaysBurnouts
@SidewaysBurnouts Жыл бұрын
the only thing i would ask from indian, is leave more room on the frame above the heads to modify displacement.
@semperfipar1299
@semperfipar1299 2 жыл бұрын
So Harley copied off of the Indian is my take away. Historically they have always done this. It is about time Harley started a redesign of their bikes.
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@mukidiaja
@mukidiaja 2 жыл бұрын
As an Indonesian bataknese, I'm proud of you lae Siahaan. Good Job brother.
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad HD has built a decent engine but the prices on both just don't compete when you move out of the cruiser segment. A CB1000R, KTM890, MT-10 or any similar bike will crush these in performance and handling and will cost less. I completely understand style and feel of a bike but I'm not going to suffer 2" of suspension travel and bad ergonomics.
@brando81
@brando81 2 жыл бұрын
True, but when you move out of the cruiser segment, you're now comparing apples to oranges.
@user-tm9ho3bm4v
@user-tm9ho3bm4v Жыл бұрын
Kawasaki 900rs.
@spacecoastz4026
@spacecoastz4026 Жыл бұрын
I got to do some decent riding time on the 2020 Indian Scout Twenty...which has that elevated floating seat. The result was a much better riding position than the lower seats on the other Scouts...including the Rogue. Now granted that seat was hard and slippery, but it's the higher position I'm talking about. Do something similar, along with decent rear shocks, and the Scout Rogue would be a much better machine.
@jimscarnivorekitchen4731
@jimscarnivorekitchen4731 Жыл бұрын
Great video Love my Nightster
@donpet8258
@donpet8258 2 жыл бұрын
U guys should pre write out a list before videos, There’s so much more information you could’ve provided !!
@josutafuji2938
@josutafuji2938 Жыл бұрын
Scout Rouge 🎉❤
@jonnycando
@jonnycando 2 жыл бұрын
Some one even Harley might come up with a way to get some bottom end out of the Nightster…..maybe make a Stage 1 tune or something.Having some top end is fine but on a Harley you need that kick in the butt at the bottom end too!
@Heyllow
@Heyllow 2 жыл бұрын
Nightster would have been perfect, if not a fake-ish bike : fake fuel tank (it's air admission), fake air admission (to keep the look), fake potato-potato sound (it's a trick from engineers so injection sounds like old motors),.... I own a Scout Bobber and i'm definitively happy with it !
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@jasonhardy1959
@jasonhardy1959 2 жыл бұрын
Why not the sportster s
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@patricksandeberg8184
@patricksandeberg8184 2 жыл бұрын
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@captainplanet43
@captainplanet43 Жыл бұрын
Harley needs to make a 1250 nightster with the same power as the pan Am and a flat track racer aka the bronx!
@bigscout1584
@bigscout1584 2 жыл бұрын
Nightster is on the vrod frame whereas the Indian is on a molded aluminum frame
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