2013 World Cruiser Shootout

[@TonberryShuffle]

I love how people complain about Triumph not updating a bike for 4 years in the same video where a HD is sitting there with a Twin Cam.

[@2004lesk01]

every body knows what ever bike is tested in the US it will be harley is the best!, but will all know different.. Harley simply is living of thier name and lets face it they are the best at maketing thier brand.

[@ZoneTelevision]

I'm wondering why they didn't put the 1700cc Triumph Tbird Storm in the shootout it would have made more sense in this comparison. A bit of a short changed review but ok none the less.

[@ChampagneJonny]

Zone Television The bike choice here was a big point of contention btwn the editor & myself. In the end I had no say. If you've got a problem w/ the bikes here (or not), email Duke. He loves to hear from all his fan!

[@ZoneTelevision]

Jon Langston Thanks for the feedback. I will hit him up. Would it be best to submit an email through the web site directly? Thanks.

[@ChampagneJonny]

Zone Television Oh no by all means do it here, call him out! Fact is, he & I disagreed on a LOT - so much I'd forgotten all about this particular argument. But my original list of World Cruisers (I still have the doc saved on my computer) had an M109 instead of the Star, the Storm instead of the standard T-bird, and a Victory instead of the (clearly overmatched) Harley. Duke shot 'em all down.

[@davids6533]

4:55 - 5:10 YES, a lot of bikes could use a sixth gear or Overdrive. My 86 Honda Shadow had overdrive and I absolutely loved it. Wake up bike makers!

[@FCT8306onTwoWheels]

i got a Yamaha Stryker and it could use a sixth gear for better MPG but then again it just might lug on the highway if it did have a sixth gear but its stays zippy in almost every gear

[@leesbo55]

Guzzi is not transverse. The crankshaft in relation to the frame determines trans or longitudinal. Harley is trans verse guzzi is longitudinal. Is your V8 Chevy transverse?

[@Cicero75BC]

I'll take the Triumph. The Harley guy said it was the best looking but I think the Triumph is hands down the best looking of the bunch with the parallel twin. I would rather have the Thunderbird Storm though over the one in the video. I think Harley stole the duel headlights from Triumph. I have alot of respect for MotoGuzzi.

[@jackojacko3545]

I wish you could do more cruiser shootouts of this quality

[@williamosdborne3396]

Bikes that shake and wobble with an engine trying to vibrate in every other direction than ahead are not engineered very well. People are attracted to the sound. It's akin to the clothes pin holding the playing card against the spokes. Remember that...... when you were a kid?

[@MrTellyGunner]

Good review. I'd like to see your camera crew do a "2013 World Steadicam & Tripod Shootout", because they could really use them.

[@twowheeldanger]

Heat can be felt from the Guzzi's cylinders, but it's short of abusive. In fact, the larger-displacement V-Twins in this test throw off similar heat to the rider.

[@steventhomson9869]

Just purchased a 2014 Triumph Thunderbird which is excellent. Just got to get it tuned (as a lot of bikes should be) and perfect touring bike!

[@Lumpia_In_Texas]

Fantastic production on this video!

[@noahwebster9475]

Why wasn't the Triumph Thunderbird Storm tested? They comment in the video that the Thunderbird hasn't been updated since 2009, but the Storm came out in 2011 and it has 100 more cc's, dramatic blacked out features, and the "very triumph" bugeye headlamps.

[@gorgon9786]

Doesn't trust a word of these guys sayin.. Shows their attention to not mentioning the storm, nor other trivia on the Triumph.. And mentioning plastic handgrips..as a Big fail.. WTF.. Not impressed by your job in this documentary...

[@gorgon9786]

@@alainbrisebois8334.. Not these guys!!..

[@nzbeeker1]

What are your thoughts on the Boulevard C109RT and the M109R?

[@TNFLHT]

The song is by audiology it's called the sun over tokyo

[@Vanrocco66]

I agree with Zone (below) .... Also, why no Victory? Nothing wrong with having two American manufacturers in the shootout is there??

[@noahtheviking1]

Yes the Victory looks great handles great and has a great motor they should start testing more victory bikes

[@47fez]

noahtheviking I agree that Victory and also Indian need more coverage by the media. Indian needs more dealers ! Both excellent American made bikes! But I'm still a Harley rider !

[@zackness5]

What's the song at the beginning of the video?

[@fencinggearhed]

The sun is over Tokyo by Audio-ology. All the songs used are listed in the credits.

[@christianmouraux7269]

Thé Triumph is by far the best 👍

[@sledgehammersark]

What is that intro song!!!!

[@FlorinNitulescu_1]

the FatBob looks sick! Can't wait to get my first Harley!

[@ut1004bp]

Hmm. O don't think I heard anything about fuel tank and travel distance or talk about center gravity weakness or strengths

[@joepasco1420]

The star is geared for the boulevard, note the huge back pulley, I have an 2001 1600 with a far smaller pulley and it just idles along at 70mph.

[@benchracing8820]

The last song in this video what is it ?I cant find it !

[@rozzyretreat3300]

No mention the big vn2ooo (TORQUE ) / 1st 2nd CLUNKER rev limiter / 3rd 4/ 5th hwy CRUISER 🇦🇺

[@1400IntruderVS]

These are not very informative videos. The brief over views exclaimed for each model tells me little to nothing. The Triumph performs well, but where in when compared with each of these other bikes? Which is more confidence inspiring to ride? Which is the smoothest over rough pavement? I know a couple come with ABS but what kind of braking performance do each of them have? Drag race these mules and then tell me where the power is at. Stick the tallest and shortest testers on each bike for a spell and give me both perspectives. Stop telling me a Harley is a Harley. I know that already. I also know not all Harley's perform exactly the same. How about an objective review instead of a show case?

[@gorgon9786]

Well said!.. I bought a Triumph even the handgrip "was a bit plastic" - according to these guys!.. Triumph had made the Storm 1700cc when this showcase was done.. But according to these guys,.. A Harley is A Harley,.. And apparently nothing bad to say about it...

[@Radioactive_Slime]

Funny how all the narrow minded folk wish you'd picked their bike. I ride a Triumph Tiger 800 ( not a cruiser for those who dont realize there is more than HD and Victory) and love it. I love all bikes and when I see a shoot out review of any genre I check it out. From an unbiased perspective, the Guzzi is just plain cool from any angle. The Yamaha is old man overstyled, the Triumph is stiff english sportsman and the HD is good bike being overextended by some stupid marketing machine - the same one convincing wal mart shoppers that tattoos are for everyone. Go Guzzi!!

[@MrJabber22]

i'm thinking about making the jump to becoming a motorcycle rider..can anyone give advice on what type of cruiser to start out on

[@raymondcancel1290]

MrJabber22 What are you jumpy from?First thing you should do go to motor cycle school,it only cost $299.00 and believe me its worst the spent. Harley deales have a 4 days shcool. You would graduated on a 600cc so you can go on 883cc cruiser right away but whatever you are jumping from don"t skip the school!

[@raymondcancel1290]

MrJabber22 I'm also for the Truimph 883cc .The price is right and the dealer is near my house.

[@MrJabber22]

Raymond Cancel good stuff thanks

[@jackstonington3772]

Pretty small shootout for being a world shootout. What happened to the Indian Chieftain or the Suzuki M109 or the a Victory? I think they could have done a little better job in the field of cruisers.

[@imad19eddine96]

The bame if the song at the beginning is ???

[@veegs23]

the HD has sick rear lights

[@michaelhughes8790]

What is the beginning song

[@Kaivalaginiviti]

Good review, although you are missing a Victory (Hammer S would kick ar$e) in the mix. Also it would have been fairer to have a Thunderbird Storm in there to compare with the Harley.

[@laipatrick78]

No m109r?

[@fotoflorian]

no love for victory??

[@aluvimotoblog]

kinda familiar with that place in transformers movies. where is it? (OOT)

[@Dallas-Nyberg]

7:22 A Triumph Thunerbird???.. nice editing guys..

[@triumph157]

what a great review,thanks.

[@VisorView]

Ride all four across Europe, Swiss mountain passes, no fuel for miles, and crap road surfaces and then tell us which one is best. My guess is the Guzzi, followed by the Triumph, but that the Triumph will do the trip without any problems at all. Having spent 40 years on all sorts from dirt bikes to sportsbikes, I am now thinking of trying a cruiser, and that Triumph comes out tops for me.

[@shallow47]

I like the intro song..

[@joerocket3rider603]

How in the #$&# was Victory not included in this lineup?

[@Lex-Rex]

Is it me or did the Harley get the least video time? I owned a Fat Bob 2012 and it was a bad ass machine. The only reason I got rid of it was to get a 2013 Road Glide Custom for more touring.

[@lakecrab]

The heat off those cylinder heads on the Guzzi must be uncomfortable in the summer heat of the S/E US. No?

[@VTECheart]

Guzzi or Star for me :)

[@dionmoore879]

Honda Valkyrie missing from this comparison.

[@masterspin7796]

I just happen to be cruzing around the motorcycles and discovered this jewel...You guys were younger looking!..Guess what..me too!

[@josepca89]

now thats a good review

[@spam1712]

Star but not yamaha? Pls explain

[@N4K3DN1NJ4]

Star is technically a different brand thats based out of Yamaha USA. Kinda like how Buell was its own brand, even though HD owned and operated it. So Star is a US brand.

[@mtwolf13a]

If your going to compare cruisers then use a Harley Softail Deluxe or a Road King with floor boards instead.

[@robw7676]

Guzzi or Triumph for me, but the Thunderbird to have is the 1700 Storm

[@dirtsailoroff-road5580]

no Suzuki boulevard????

[@Gabbos]

Who ever has been picking the music for these videos lately needs to stop. Wanting to watch these videos muted is a bad thing. Stop turning it into a shitty music video.

[@treycranson]

I'm pretty sure Star is still owned by Yamaha so don't fret!

[@dasadopeboy]

good one guys.

[@marcelhaas]

Where is Victory?

[@Blakelysworld358]

no boss hoss?

[@mrmurphy8609]

I love my Thunderbird LT.

[@yournightmare9999]

where is THE new VTX model who must sweep the way before them

[@xenaozn]

Triumph saves money by fitting plasticky hand grips! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Sig721Tau]

The Star Stratoliner S wins hands down. H-Ds are the same ol, plain ol thing. Boring...

[@nathanhighvoltage5259]

Here... Harley will always look classic

[@twowheeldanger]

It wasn't a problem for our six-foot rider. Lengthy floorboards allow multiple foot positions.

[@SigurdurHreggvidsson]

No m109r wich is the KING

[@CactusJack252]

Put a 6 speed and I would choose the star hands down but until then the fatbob gets the win for me. 2500 rpms at 70 compared to 3300 at 75 mph for the star is a big difference.

[@twowheeldanger]

One per country, and Harley sets the benchmark.

[@mbsnyderc]

The take machines made for long road trips and drive them around town all day.

[@daveslickpack1696]

No V Star? That's one of the best selling cruisers.

[@pressendforspanish]

The Star Raider kicks all their asses!

[@2007crf450r]

should have added a victory to the mix

[@shane01623]

I had a fat bob for a year and did 12000 miles on it, very happy when I sold it (crap) then got a much older Kawasaki 1600 mean streak (happy days) Harleys look drop dead cool but they ride like shit.

[@toddcockrum3226]

At your price point should have had the triumph storm and victory Vegas but opinions are like butt s everyone has one.

[@AminHafiz]

thats all you have to say for harley ??

[@донБольшой]

Where is Honda Shadow ?

[@deadlock1609]

I would buy the Harley !! But wait I did buy the Fat Bob... and I love it!

[@prof1066]

The Star has the best motor, the Triumph the best handling, the guzzi will fall apart in a couple of years and the Harley is past it.

[@prof1066]

+D Trout I to have been riding since the 1970's I have owned Triumphs Honda's Suzuki's and Yamaha's. Maybe I was a bit harsh on the Guzzi's, but I base my comment on friends who have owned them over the years, but how many old Guzzis do you see on the road, round here there as rare as Unicorn shit.

[@nikos-giorgos]

+prof1066 You don't see many guzzis on the road because they didn't import it(the brand) to the us, but mostly because their production was limited back in the day, and even now the production number is pretty small,but they're great bikes anyway...

[@prof1066]

+νικος γιώργος I am not in the USA , the UK and loads of Guzzis came to the UK, but you still do not see many 10 year old's on the road. Maybe the new one's are better, we will see.

[@deanstanley5210]

I meet plenty of old Guzzis on the road for the numbers that were imported...they hold up well. They never did sell many in North America to start with. .

[@Grantsimms]

well….. this video was kinda pointless. except just a few things, you told me the same thing I could observe myself while I watch them drive by.

[@joeburke8214]

Put a 100k mile on a Harley , then add up repair bills. Ill guarantee its higher than the rest.

[@williamsmith1044]

See above post

[@SilentPrayingmanTis]

-what about the Triumph Rocket roadster?? >_> Biggest production bike engine on the planet.

[@EpicHotCheese]

Wow the river ride feels just like the one in GTA V.

[@terryjohn]

for my money its the star..just looks ace...2rd triumph.3rd moto g.4th well the ole oil leaker.

[@ducatiford]

Audio ology, the sun is over Tokyo....

[@mattleavins3555]

I love my victory

[@onfireforJESUS75]

Yeah you got redesigned Harley wow dual headlight big whoop and this dark group crap, why not do something with the ancient pushrod engine folks come in now how long have we have overhead cams?. HARLEY DAVIDSON you pay for the name and thousands of dollars in constant shop time crap 400 dollars for a oil change and the engine has parts that break down before you put any serious miles on it just reading reports. While most metric bikes run for years thousands of miles before you even need to do anything major whats in a name if the reliability is not. After reading many reports of owners of Harleys I think I will buy metric or a Victory. Sorry owning a bike is a luxury yes but having to throw money at it all the time ain't for me I want something I can hop on and ride for hours not just to take it to the shop.

[@sk8777kid1]

I don't think Harley's are as crappy as you make them out to be, it's not a 70's early 80's harley that you have to wrench on all the time.

[@PeterDad60]

+Owen Einarson You ignorant fuck you know next to nothing about Harley-Davidson motorcycles yet you bad mouth them.

[@onfireforJESUS75]

PeterDad60 Really tell me this than compare any other motorcycle on the market and you will see Harley owners bitching about how much time their bike is in the shop. This is why many riders are trading their Harley in on Victory or even an import. Sure if you got money to burn Harley makes a great bike. I have known many Harley owners including family and all they do is complain about constant repairs and shop time. Also have talked to many that converted to import or now the Victory for same reason.

[@sk8777kid1]

+Owen Einarson I know a lot of people with Harley's, and they don't have problems with their bikes...

[@draganm7823]

Every manufacturer has issues but the hype about harley problems is greartly over exadurated. Mine is an 09 Night Train with 10,000 miles and still runs and looks like new. Check out the imports at 10,000 miles and its like everything want to fall off, just has been my observation. Ride what you like and like what you ride. Ride safe.

[@javedfazil6686]

HD is basically a tractor

[@marcelhaas]

How do tall people feel about the Guzzi? Are your legs hitting the cylinder heads and getting fried?

[@silverback802]

Victory?

[@lydellb]

No victory? Honda? Indian?

[@ChampagneJonny]

Pres. Comacho The bike choice here was a big point of contention btwn the editor & myself. IN the end, I had no say If you've got a problem w/ the bikes here (or not), email Duke. He loves to hear from his fan!

[@lydellb]

Jon Langston No problem, just thought it was a little weird. I know how hard it is to narrow down a list of bikes. lol

[@austinm7273]

I like the wolverine look on you lol

[@williamsmith1044]

The same bike they have been making for 20 years with a different coloured tank

[@roadrunner40]

I rode all of these bikes except the Star. I also tried out the Harley Wide Glide, Suzuki Boulevard M109, All the Indians, & a used honda VTX 1800. I bought the Triumph. Some of the others have more HP which only means something if you are raceing. It's more important where that power/ torque is made. The triumph seens to have it's full amount of HP & Torq available from 0-100 mph & anywhere in between. The Harley is the most beautiful (not the one in the video) the Moto Guzzi is different & ugly. The Star looks really good, but it is just a blinged up Harley wanna be. The Triumph is second in looks but is not trying to be a Harley lookalike & has custom looking paint fit & finish. Triumph's brakes are the best I have ever experienced on a cruiser. Ride them all for yourself & buy the one that makes you smile.

[@rubo1964]

I know its old comment but Guzzi "ugly" ? You must be blind

[@butteredbiskit3497]

Guzzi's are awesome. Highly underrated

[@aluvimotoblog]

fatbob is totally awesome :D

[@josemsolis7167]

My two cents and by the way I really don't hate any bike, I like them all but I do have my favorites: Star - Big power....but over styled (there is such a thing) Triumph - Cool bike...but looks like one of the other's little brother Guzzi - High performance and efficient (of course coming from Europe) cool looking in its own way...but underpowered and weird looking to the American mentality. Harley - Its a Harley (there is such a thing) and by the way we are not in the 70's and 80's Harleys are high quality machines now...but this one is not my style of Harley.

[@draganm7823]

The Star is copying the Road King, looks good.

[@keeanparshall5443]

I have a Harley Davidson and a v-star and I love them both but come on really. Your gonna say the star sounds better then the Harley lmao

[@alexeykulikov2739]

What kinda superhuman can ride a black v-twin clad in black leather and a black helmet in LA and still be able to think, speak and not look like CFC thighs?

[@techmaven5900]

Kevin Duke sounds like he smokes WAY too much weed.

[@johnsmall7252]

Only watched 24 secs. Wanted to watch bikes not listen to loud singing.

[@sk8777kid1]

Love my v star that I got, but nothing sounds like a harley.

[@ricardomunoz2010]

What displacement is it?

[@sk8777kid1]

My bike or a harley mine is 1063cc I think a 103 harley is like 1580cc or something like that.

[@PeterDad60]

+sk8777kid1 103 cu. in. = 1690cc.