How Much Nitrous Can a Stock Engine Take? - Engine Masters Ep. 13

The 13th episode of Engine Masters, presented by AMSOIL, is an unlucky one for a poor little 305ci Chevy small-block. It was the victim of our test of how much nitrous oxide power boost can be tolerated by a completely stock short-block with the original cast crank, rods, and pistons. Yeah, it ends badly, but before the engine's demise we learn a lot, showing you how nitrous oxide increases horsepower and giving you tips on how to use it safely on any engine. You'll also learn a pretty good power combo for a 305 Chevy! Engine Masters is supported by Mr. Gasket and Earl's Vapor Guard.
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[@troyg3831]

I was always disappointed that they didn't properly gap the rings to see how far they could really go with cast internals

[@shitbox7413]

With rings gapped properly, 118 gas, and the progressive controller I bet it would safely handle a 350 shot, maybe 400.

[@NOSNOOB11]

Yea but that was the point

[@lukewarmwater6412]

well, since it is the expanding nitrogen that does most of the work. I.E. the burning fuel and oxigen heats the nitrogen and causes it to expand. since there are formulas to figgure out how much air you can force in with a blower, it would be close to the same, cause thats all you are realy doing with a shot of nos more oxigen and more nitrogen, same as a blower but without the moving parts.

[@lenabeeman9041]

Keep in mind, stock bottom ends don't have piston rings with extra gap for nitrous.

[@troyg3831]

@@lenabeeman9041 right but If you are gonna build a cheap nitrous motor, might as well do it right

[@jesondag]

Here we have a bone stock engine........ but.. we upgraded, this, this, this, this, this, and that...

[@smminco]

they specifically said stock short block.

[@deadeyeduncan5022]

Did you even watch the video?

[@jesondag]

yes, watched the whole thing it was interesting.... 1:18 "we have hopped it up a little bit it's got..." I liked the video, I just thought it was funny that he said it was bone stock, and then detailed a few things they upgraded on it.

[@entropy156]

+jesondag those upgrades effect the horsepower and torque figures, but they don't, in any way, effect how durable it will be in nitrous.

[@entropy156]

***** it is a stock bottom end...as stated in the video...and the bottom end parts are what nitrous breaks. That's the point of this video, in case you didn't actually watch it.

[@retroracing4022]

That lil 305 was making some decent power. Im sure that engine with the 150 shot would have made a decent weekend warrior setup.

[@RealSteelStreet]

No doubt...500 hp 305 could really hurt some feelings! lol

[@craigjohnson8217]

Landon I agree. 350+hp NA is stout for a 305 and over 500 on a 150 shot it gets my vote.

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@craigjohnson8217 What does the 150 in "150 shot" mean?

[@craigjohnson8217]

@@pieterveenders9793 150 hp nitrous

[@pieterveenders9793]

@@craigjohnson8217 So if I understand correctly that engine will produce an additional 150 hp when nitrous is applied, making a total of around 500 hp?

[@shitbox7413]

This is my favorite EM episode, I wish they would do the same test with nothing more than the stock rings gapped to .030”. With rings gapped properly, 118 gas, and the progressive controller, I bet it would safely handle a 400 shot.

[@jamieschinkai1267]

I was thinking the same thing

[@thomaskimparker809]

Yea.. it's all brand new... but put a few passes on it with that kinda spray, and you will see what the rods look like hanging out the side of it.. the rod bolts won't take the stress very long and they will stretch and when that happens its Katie bar the door cause the rods are leaving home... lol

[@firebirdude2]

So stock BLOCK, not stock engine.

[@XxMusclecarsxX]

stock shortblock*

[@chrisf5615]

Well except for the cam... so almost stock.

[@Superman85139]

exactly what i was thinking lmao just clickbait

[@Highstranger951]

He said short block, not engine. Pay attention and ignorance will be less of a problem.

[@Highstranger951]

anonymous 1:16

[@Scouter98]

..now me and the mad scientist have to rip apart the block to replace the piston rings you fried

[@bryanjjones4163]

you got that from the fast and furious

[@jessiedavis3543]

+bryan j Jones no shit there buddy

[@leftoverbrainz]

+bryan j Jones your some special kind of stupid

[@bryanjjones4163]

+Victor Barajas (onedesire1392) really

[@leftoverbrainz]

+bryan j Jones oh shit i didnt realize who i commented it was meant for jessie davis lol sorry man

[@dfuller968]

So next episode lets see the 305 prepped for nitrous!!! Lets see what you can get out of it.

[@mecheng1993]

I hope so too

[@89v6bird]

I agree ! Build it and see what it will take !

[@SailinCTD]

Maybe do a budget style build for the 305

[@TheKajunkat]

I agree. my thoughts exactly.

[@0oYASASHIIo0]

Yeah that would be nice to see in the next episode but the next episode is already filmed and out... on FUCKING motortrend on demand...

[@driverjamescopeland]

"Nirous does not blow up engines. PEOPLE blow up engines." I officially love this channel.

[@xx_ironman77_xx1]

Motor trend does have some of the best car enthusiast shows out there

[@ithmiths]

I wish i could have a “junk engine” like that

[@N2DeepRacin]

305s aren't a bad engine at all. With a 3k budget a 305 is peppy .. not fast in a 3500lb street car but just a fun little efficient engine that can be had for cheap. Those heads are only like 1200 bucks.. that cam is only 279 bucks from jegs. 350 dollar intake and 500 dollar carb. That nitrous kit is the starter kit for any real racer and can be had for around 750 bucks. For under 5k you can have a reliable 450hp 305. People make fun of them but look at the abuse the Ford 302 takes..... Short stroke, big bore, same as 305. Not bad for any engine you can obtain for 350 bucks at any junkyard in the nation.

[@N2DeepRacin]

@Dave Micolichek never did I say the bores were the same.. I stated both engines work off the same principal with bore vs stroke... Junior...

[@michaelmcneil5036]

Ya 305 engines are real impressive lmao🙄🙄

[@spenck7740]

@Dave Micolichek umm yeah okay?? Not hard to achieve an engine like THAT?? Obviously its not hard, the O.P is talking $$ wise...

[@nickhoekstra2478]

What i was thinking lol

[@MrMrsregor]

3:27 might be the most important part of this lesson for all of the viewers that are new to motor sports

[@nunyabizness2433]

Engine Masters is without a doubt the most informative and entertaining thing I have ever come across concerning performance engines. Please keep this show alive. I enjoy it more than anything else on KZbin by far. I fooled around installing expensive parts on piles of rusted steel and bondo starting in 1968. I ended up fading from the scene when computers come along. I guess I was intimidated Here I am at 64 years old and an old 66 Chevy II dragster fell into my lap about a month ago. A week later an L98 TPI and the rest of the drive train from an 89 pontiac Formula ended up in my ownership. I didn't plan it but now that I am slightly computer savvy I'm getting an itch!

[@marcustaylor670]

I'm a bit of a geek and have looked up tests of Amsoil against other oils, I would say that using Amsoil contributed to that engines ability to hold together as long as it did and make the power it was making. Unfortunately it is hideously expensive here in the UK, Castrol Edge is probably the best I've used, it burned less and the engine ran better while feeling more responsive and powerful. Edge costs over twice as much as a normal fully synthetic oil but is around half the price of Amsoil.

[@mohamedmagdy4857]

DANGER to manifold ... (floor panel drops)

[@MrDumptyTheDeadman]

Damn cast aluminum floor panels.

[@Kmsfnd]

lol

[@m4ista]

shut up !!!! stage 2

[@ultra_ultra]

I had you bro

[@lmf868]

+Ultra Sound you never had me. you never had your car

[@DOWDFILMS1]

You're lucky you didn't blow the welds on the intake

[@johnnygreen730]

+Ford RS lol

[@jaybelle532]

that's a good fast and the furious quote... God I love how stupid they were

[@punkinvine1179]

Your lucky stupid isn't fatal.

[@Pbeezy4]

+Ford RS golden

[@Warndog9]

They were fine. The danger to manifold light didn't come on.

[@theprophetez1357]

I had a high performance 305 and it was great. You can actually bolt in a 350 cam and it works great, giving you more power.

[@tedbundy2797]

wow that's cool.

[@tripjet999]

Too much Nitrous and the engine will begin to laugh.

[@SOU6900]

😆

[@ibramguirguis]

You're a diver haaaaaa

[@MrGaryGG48]

The guy that really gets to laugh is the one at the parts counter..."You're gonna need one of these, one of these, one more of these, and a whole bunch of those!!!" Parts Guys love people playing with nitrous!! ;^)

[@MustObeyTheRules]

Pretty impressive numbers on that stock 305...

[@Grouperhound]

Agreed. That was the most impressive part of the video. 358HP!! Table top flat torque curve... all with a stock short block.

[@MustObeyTheRules]

Yea i was shocked when he said the numbers lol.

[@jokertokerfourtwozer]

stock internals do not represent horsepower, just durability, the impressive numbers were because of the upgraded cam, roller rockers, vortec heads, bigger intake and an 850 double pump carb, put forged internals in the short block and it would make the same numbers. but still was impressed with 358hp and that torque curve.

[@focused313]

jokertokerfourtwozer agree completely

[@konnerkramer3381]

jokertokerfourtwozer you do realize you just restated what he said in the video

[@bobbycone2]

This show needs to come back to KZbin! !

[@midsouth2strokes185]

Dude, it 4.99 a month and u get all the shows

[@PAUL_K]

Come on man! Stock 305 is a honest motor that deserves respect! SBC is a tough stand up guy under the hood and this episode proves that! A Cadillac HT4100 - now that's THE BIG TIME JUNK!

[@michaelangelo8001]

I like them both. How much do you actually know about the 4100?

[@sodalines]

i dont know about a short block, but my h22a took over a 100 dry shot every friday night for over a year.

[@boostjunkie2320]

Dry lol doesn't count

[@chasr34]

@@boostjunkie2320 its still a shot fam, technically, it does...

[@dan2531]

Just like my wife

[@ADHD_OUTDOORS]

How does dry not count ? That’s harder than a wet hit

[@greenboyatgafarms2250]

Iv done this with a 350 it did really well with a 200 shot for about a year and probably ran well over a 100 bottles threw it. When I pulled it out it was still running. 😎 Great Job guys👍

[@DannySystem]

GreenBoy at GA Farms you did 100 bottles of nos in a year?

[@greenboyatgafarms2250]

@@DannySystem well there is 365 days in a year and I was a avid Street racer so yeah it's not hard to go through a Hundred Bottles if you spray a lot

[@greenboyatgafarms2250]

@@DannySystem that's a rough idea also so roughly A Hundred Bottles if he did the math it was probably more like 95 92 96 somewhere in that area still I ran a shitload of nitrous through it.

[@derpinbird1180]

Now me and the mad scientist gotta pull apart the block, and replace the piston rings you fried!

[@jerryscary2602]

Love that movie

[@whatupguy5685]

dude I almost had u ....no u never had me u never had your car

[@justinmadden58]

i live my life a 1/4 mile at a time.

[@wreklessracr]

pop the hood. pop the hood? pop the hood!

[@derpinbird1180]

2ZJ ENGINE THATS BEEN IN A FIRE? ERMAGERD!

[@youareright5431]

I had this exact setup in my 70 Chevelle,cast pistons and all and ran countless bottles of nitrous through that motor shifting at 6700 perfect!! Undefeated including aluminum head 427s and 454 ls6s I destroyed them!! If you run a wet kit set the timing right and don't lose fuel pressure you'll be fine 👍👍👍

[@unclelane4207]

anyone else watch this just to watch an engine blowup, and was disappointed.

[@davidcarder6364]

I wanted to see that thing turn into confetti.

[@snikwad003]

And Harry, I need it by tonight

[@kartoffelstranger9187]

Blew up many stock engines in my life, was always disappointing... You need lots of boost to make it exciting~

[@synarygrose9573]

Yes... but at lest no one or thing is killed

[@ViewThis.]

I once had a piston disintegrate, and the rod goes up and down in the cylinder until it pokes thru the side of the engine. I wanted to see something like that.

[@claudeladow2334]

I'd like to see what 305 with forged pistons with proper ring gaps, good rods, cast crank and those new edelbrock 305 heads can do.

[@tattrie17]

How many pulls at 600 h.p. would she have made! Now we will never know. Guess I'll have to build one now......stupid show makes me spend money, lol. Love it!

[@SteadyFreddie]

84/89 Bell-Brand

[@whatareyoudoingyouidiot342]

Maybe a couple hard pulls, but sooner or later that piston would've gone.

[@RealSteelStreet]

2, maybe 2 and a half passes! lol

[@RealSteelStreet]

Guess it really depends on if we're talking 1/4 or 1/8 mile? 3 to 3 1/2 in the 1/8th and prolly 1 1/2 to 2 full passes in a 1/4 if I was a gambler!! Personally, I would've stuck with the (quite impressive might I add) 150 shot at 550hp total and made 10-20 good passes and cashed in on the little 305 while gambling!! 💵😂

[@RealSteelStreet]

Oops, my bad...I jumped the gun there thinking of what I would've done versus wasting the "Little Engine that Could" on dyno pulls 🤷‍♂️

[@HalferLandPerformance]

225k miles Honda V6 J-Series J30A5 Engine, ran 100k miles on 100 shot, 30+ 10lb bottle and never an issue! Tune it Right, set it up right and you'll never have issues. Only issue, finding a place to fill the bottle

[@RichardArcuri]

This was actually awesome and informative. ive seen people run stock caste iron V8's on spray and they last. makes me want to run it now

[@burmese434]

Richard Arcuri On race gas and a 250shot on a stock 355 it ran for 3yrs and only thing went wrong is my head gasket. I think it would've been good if I had head studs instead of head bolts.

[@ajjohns9571]

lol it was informative how other than showing us that you can run nitrous on an engine upgraded for it since he was nice enough to list all the upgrades on it. Still waiting to see that "bone stock" engine he was referring to.

[@josephkutta599]

Always use FelPro blue head gaskets....won't blow stock or cheapies Always will

[@jdrok5026]

Aj Johns well the test was the bottom end

[@jeepguy4ever30]

aj johns+, he didnt claim it was bone stock and no this engine is not upgraded for nitrous use. its a mild street engine that RUNS ON PUMP GAS and uses pretty much all stock parts besides the cam/lifters. Obviously you know nothing about nitrous which is ok we all gotta learn but you didnt even care to watch the video and learn anything about it either. he talks about the benefits of forged internals in the vid so whats up with that. Properly upgrading an engine for nitrous would have included forged pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft. along with a wider than stock piston ring gap. please think before you speak. thanks.

[@jmrub06]

Should have filed the piston rings prior to testing to really see how far that 305 would go.

[@AB-80X]

That was not part of what they wanted to test. Stock shortblock with no modifications. Most people won't be able to properly open the rings. Most will hurt things more as they don't know hot to file rings.

[@julienfoss1392]

wait can we see the dyno chart of the blow up

[@hadenough7901]

yeah!

[@lukesworld2864]

I was curious of that myself!

[@Buggabones]

It blew up before reaching peak hp/tq looks like. Wouldnt see anything but 400-500hp then drop off.

[@ormand3000]

+Taylor Jenkins were you there?

[@bakatsugu]

just watch the video and pay attention dude

[@er14de]

this "chingadera" blows up 😂

[@benjaminchartier6458]

Gotta love how he bowdlerizes in English by using a Mexican Spanish curse word that every Latino instantly recognizes. Multi cultural knowledge. Now say int in Brazilian Portuguese.....Russian.......German......Arabic

[@meheszmezesarpadzsigmond6048]

#13

[@milspecmachine3014]

I use to run a 250 shot to my Ford Mustang with a stock 302 and I had no problems at all, it was a wet kit and I had it tuned perfectly.

[@thenukeist8350]

if nos doesn't blow up engines people blow up engines . . . dose that mean toaster doesn't toast toast toast toast toast

[@lengyeladrian1]

xD that made my day

[@uncleputes]

No, people toast toast

[@SpockieTech]

Actually, people toast *bread. It isnt toast until it comes out of the toaster. :)

[@kg123krh]

seems legit.

[@112fail]

YEAH TOAST!

[@mononomonono9450]

You said "chingadera" and as a mexican and As a Spanish speaker I can attest and I feel obliged to say that you used the word to its fullest. I'm still laughing 🤣🤣🤣

[@carloswriedt3799]

monono monono bro I heard that and had to rewind to hear it again 😂😂

[@richeyvalentine]

after i heard that i had a sudden urge to go to Taco Bell

[@andresrossi8744]

@@richeyvalentine i became a taco reading this

[@nandoavinaalv1372]

monono monono as soon is I heard it I went straight to the comments

[@MacktasticSlick_]

monono monono he’s said it for years on roadkill lol

[@danielfarthing1717]

Thanks. I know nothing about cars and you explained this in a very simple way for someone like me to understand. Now feel confident putting a NOS into my VW Beetle. Bout to shame some muscle cars!

[@dangleason9023]

They sell energy drinks that big?!

[@Syuurp]

Steve-O’s favorite

[@youtube4enthusiast]

Lol

[@spencerphilippinedream3706]

why didnt we get to see the numbers on the run that "blew it up"? isnt that what we all came for?

[@Dabagel100]

at 13:43 you can see the power on the screen

[@t-train6534]

Looks like 623 or so

[@Roset595]

We saw how much power it could take, we didn't see how much power it *couldn't* take.

[@imkewls]

He said two 150 kits would be turned up to 100%, so 300hp shot of nos when it let go. The run before the dmg was at 250hp

[@goodnessgracious8819]

At 5722 rpms it made 567.9 HP and 521.3 ft lbs of torque.

[@jeepcollector91]

I have a crappy 305 sitting around. This video makes me want to throw some money at it...

[@TheIndoGod]

JeepCollector91 Not Worth It. Get A 350. i Made The 305 Mistake Once.

[@konstantynepayne7168]

240mph UGR Gallardo Same. lots of money on a depressing result

[@cesarl3594]

I do the same thing with strippers

[@snoopfurlow1275]

It's not worth it.a 350 would be better.more power.tourqe.more pulling power.305 will drink as much gas when pulling a load, often bogs down,more rpms, decrease gas mileage.the 350 with higher rpms, power will pull that load,less bogging.305 is only good for fuel economy

[@jdrok5026]

snoop furlow um not absolutely true

[@dklahr7352]

This show could not be any better.

[@nicowasheremate]

"WARNING:DANGER TO MANIFOLD"

[@SouthTexasGhostRider]

Nico Mendoza roflmao

[@TotoGeenen]

Nico Mendoza shut up! "Closes laptop"

[@michaelboulos8734]

Car stalls and motor fails

[@danicalifornia9888]

Monica!!

[@HRM.H]

Carb lyfe boi

[@nguyenvuhoanglong3418]

I thought it just "plug and play" like in F & F franchise right?

[@Karghy]

The time-warp effect is a myth, I can never watch FnF without the cringe. THANKS.

[@240SX2pAc]

@@Karghy its Hollywood bruh, not a documentary

[@Karghy]

Art LIES

[@TylerN945]

Nitrous can actually be plug and play. Modern ECUs should be able to account for a 25-50 wet shot without a tune. Maybe even a 75 or 100 shot. It’s wise to keep an eye on your AFR and do some logging regardless though.

[@yourmusicbygreatartist8627]

I used to run a 150 on my stock tune stock engine

[@y0Fiqqy]

"Bone stock" *proceeds to point out various different aftermarket parts*

[@arvidgyllner]

mario None of wich Will make a difference

[@dirkdiggler7180]

he clearly says "bone stock short block" u prob dont know what a short block is huh lol

[@2kbaby924]

Bone stock short block not the cylinder heads

[@xboxfoeshizlmonizl88]

mario literally just commented this you beat me to it great minds think alike

[@VictorEstrada]

This is a "bolt on" which is something added to the engine. The engine is still in its "stock" form as they didn't replace any of the internals. You can consider NOS as an air mixture

[@michaelnelson7305]

A lot to comment on here, but pulling the engine apart and adding turbo pistons, main and head studs with HP valve springs and better head gaskets would give this little hot rod some life on the street with around 600 hp. Great video, looks like fun for sure

[@rickm.5365]

"This ChinGaDERA"....CLASSIC!

[@juansandoval8483]

always thought it was chingadera

[@juansandoval8483]

chingadera A wonderfully suggestive word for "thing". Safe to use at work or in the bedroom. "Are you done playing with that chingadera?" "I can't seem to get that chingadera to work!"

[@cheeriomartinez]

LMao i was about to say that too!

[@juansandoval8483]

+cheeriomartinez well i been cussin in spanish since childhood and I swear its chingadera or dang been saying it wrong all my life haha

[@FragLikeIts]

Chingadera

[@BreakerBreaker1320]

Revisit this and add upgraded pistons/rings only and go full send on a 2 shot...Ramp it up 30%~75% over 3 seconds and bet you hit 800. If it survives, go full 50%~100% and tickle 900 and make a 4 piece crank 😂

[@adjest6388]

😂😂😂😂

[@thunderhammer1937]

Brian B 👍🏼👍🏼😂

[@lucysmith4242]

they'll just make you pay for motor trend to see it or give you commercials every 30 seconds

[@YusufGinnah]

Brian B 🤣😂👍🏼 Hurt it real good...

[@MidnightMechanic]

I really don't understand the hate given towards 305 SBC's, they run smooth, can produce a decent amount of power even if it's a little low, but the real talents are how much fuel economy and mileage 305 cast iron small blocks are blessed with. 263,000 miles on my '92 Camaro's bone stock 305, runs like it's brand new, just warm her up a little and she's ready to rip!

[@frequencydecline5250]

..thats all a joke right? decent power, fuel economy, runs like new after warming up...That thing is only getting good fuel economy if you are comparing it to a say a 74 deville...

[@GreenJeep1998]

Those and the 307 have always been boat anchors, I'm impressed that it made that much power on it's own, as well as took the lower levels of nitrous........as well as how much money and what parts they dumped into it before it blew!

[@entropy156]

well.....it's because they're turds. They weren't even up to the task when they were new, as anybody with a 5.0 Ford of the same era would have demonstrated to you at every available opportunity.

[@GreenJeep1998]

You didn't even need a 5.0 Mustang, I could take them down with a 4dr Hatch Lebaron with their early 2.2l Turbo 4 that only good for just shy of 150hp.

[@entropy156]

GreenJeep1998 True. Those turbo Mopars were nasty little sleepers.

[@JesterNR1]

MT: "How Much Nitrous Can a Stock Engine Take?" Me: "I don't know, BUT I KNOW HOW MUCH I'M GONNA USE!"

[@jesusvilla12345]

I like the production of the video. It legitimately felt like a TV show or something. You guys also are very user friendly most, if not all, of the terms you used to describe things was simple and not stand-offish. Yeah sure idk what some of the things in the engine were that you upgraded but for the most part you were very user friendly. Are you a shop professor ? Lol

[@the8jrfan]

I've seen things get blown on your show, I've seen Hookers get beat up badly, next think we know you guys will be PowerStroking in front of all of us. You guys need to get it together. 😜

[@ramairgto72]

But the Hookers at least go payed..

[@enigmaPL]

They weren't any less effective after the beating though.

[@techmaven5900]

Paid*

[@techmaven5900]

jonnyjb69 I wasn't talking to you, dicknose.

[@ramairgto72]

Lets all be nice... and pass around the Hookers.

[@fuelerr]

You guys are the MythBusters of Engine Mastery. Great educational show and freakin fun to boot. Thanks Guys.

[@SupraSav]

I was really hoping it was a bone stock 2JZ. Kind of expensive would be really cool to see what that overengineered block can handle!

[@agga3955]

CarFreak but but 800hp rated bottom end 🤷‍♂️

[@Miimimedia]

@john maselli OMG OMG IS THAT A SUUUUPRA

[@j95svt]

I would love to see the results with wider ring gaps and stock pistons. Then spray it till it scatters!

[@automotiveenthusiast1160]

At 6:17 when u said "chingadera", that made me crack the eff up! I was not expecting that. I enjoyed the video FYI.

[@Not.DantoPlays]

I was about to write the same thing

[@irvisgarcia1324]

Lol

[@1machetes]

Yeah me too I was like wtf did he just said this chingadera... he must be working with lots of raza

[@KrimeStar209]

Lol yup got me too

[@estebanrodriguez8049]

Honestly

[@krvs.thewrld5297]

world's greatest drag race 6?

[@MotorTrendWatch]

Coming soon!

[@GreenAppelPie]

+Motor Trend Channel but not until they spam it up with a commercial about how it's on no demand first.

[@mikeR39]

There will be plenty of teasers for it first lol you will see them soon

[@catmario9947]

+Motor Trend Channel better have the shelby gt350r and focus rs in it

[@looseballs1966]

So what was the dyno numbers before she suffered the melted piston blues

[@storminmymind6059]

Next time I need a stock engine I am coming to these guys for sure.

[@legoslife]

you guys should try nitrous on a 5MGE inline 6 2.8L. The "Bulletproof" engine.

[@dchil15]

Bullet proof? Never heard that about them before. I have 2, one on 300kkm that will blow by the rings at full throttle, the other has 190-odd on it that's blown a headgasket but will cut 5 laps on track drifting before it overheats and starts to lose oil pressure. Both stock HP.

[@13blackg]

Or really test the engineering on a soch 5ME, the one in my little Celica Supra just takes upgrades like a champ. I've gotten 250hp with all factory internals and oe ecu

[@TheWTFskateboarding]

Or a 2jzgte!

[@eclipsegst9419]

Liam Hughes i think the battle for most bulletproof engine on earth is between the Ford 300 inline six and Mercedes OM617...

[@WhiteDwarfVR4]

Liam Hughes 4g63😁

[@QuattroRMT]

I'm just sitting here, in Europe and the guy says "just a small Chevy engine, 3.5". WUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTT, that's huge xD We drive some fucking 1.0 EcoThreePistonEngines >.>

[@JayNero777]

they hilariuosly poor power for the size though.

[@billybobjoe198]

We get big engines from euro manufacturers. You've let your governments run your lives. You can reverse it.

[@QuattroRMT]

billybobjoe198 That's kind of true, many people in Europe are stupid and they think that socialism/communism is the best system in the world, and the European Union began... with it's shitty rules, and tells you what your country must do. Sad.

[@75IFFY]

Ahh, but Euro engines arent cast iron pushrod stuff from the 70s. They actually have some finesse

[@freakyflow]

305ci V8 they came in many GM cars Camaro, Trans am ..These cars also had 262 V6. 350ci V8 The 89' Trans am Had a 3.8L V6 Turbo which was 12 secs 1/4 mile Which was very fast for a stock factory car

[@Lukelins1]

So by stock you mean not stock.

[@Heburntmyshake]

lmao

[@mikehansen8372]

Basically . . .

[@Brjeembr]

He said "bone stock short block" A short block is an engine sub-assembly comprising the portion of the cylinder block below the head gasket but above the oil pan.

[@npsit1]

Actually, he said "bone stock SMALL block." The rotating components are stock in the engine which is what would typically fail on an over-nitroused engine.

[@MrCWH5]

No, He clearly said "Bone stock SHORT BLOCK"(and its also in the description section) which is what is effected in a nitrous application as there are rarely failures of the valve train contributed to the application of nitrous.

[@jayh9635]

Impressive! I say do the same test again but open up the piston ring gap to see if you can get to that 700hp mark. I think its possible!

[@alltheboost5363]

I wonder how much power would have made if it had the Rings cut appropriately for like a 500 shot.

[@ConcussedGaming]

Filing down the rings and nothing else isn't going to prevent you from throwing a rod through the block. It's just another preventive measure.

[@ZedTee77]

@@ConcussedGaming Yeah but the rings were the main failing point here, would of been good to see where it ended up with the ring gap opened up. My guess since they mentioned the head gasket blew out as well is that it would of failed at that point anyway due to pushed head gasket but the piston would of survived that far. The rods were hanging in to that point though!

[@AB-80X]

It would have had tons of issues with blow by at some point with the rings open.

[@ZedTee77]

@@AB-80X Not really, when we say file the rings out it's still only talking in thousandths of an inch, so the gap isn't that great, the metal only expands a relatively small amount so it would probably only need a few thousandths bigger gap. That would still increase blow by, but by an insignificant amount, much better than smashed pistons :)

[@RodgerRabbit]

I agree, the only part of the dyno pull u would loose power on is the bottom end before it made any difference to the overall power and torque number

[@orlandoaspericueta2534]

I woulda killed for that 305

[@traymuse3810]

Orlando Aspericueta buy one

[@sergeantspeed5941]

You need a better paying job then.

[@bigmike100]

Then you need to raise your standards lol

[@dennishensley1150]

Killed what?

[@RealSteelStreet]

This particular 305 was quite impressive (for what it is) but you'd be insane to spend a single dime really trying to build one. Hence the reason they grenaded this one instead of a 350!

[@RB26PWR2]

Stock 4.3 vortec in an 01 Blazer.. colder plugs and 150 shot.. I've put probably 20 bottles though it.

[@pmuhilly]

Would you go through the trouble to gap the rings if you were me I have a 03 Sonoma I’m itching to run like that

[@SLCmedia07]

The funniest, and ironic thing about this whole video was him saying "Dont call it NOS/NOZ, cause that's a rookie movie" and 30 seconds later a commercial for NOS comes on and thats exactly what the guy in the commerical called it. 🤣🤣🤣

[@christiangraham4579]

If y’all listen closely he says stock short block, that means the block and pistons and crank are stock, meaning everything else isn’t haha.

[@AB-80X]

They used a hopped up top end so that the top would not be the failure point. It was specifically targeted at the bottom end.

[@christiangraham4579]

ABOlsen69X good point! Didn’t think of that. Cancel out any variables. Just figured the bottom end would be the first to go no matter. But with this experiment don’t wanna take the risk in ruining the results.

[@paullawrence3714]

Then change the title of the video... to How Much Nitrous Can a Stock Short Block Engine Take? - Engine Masters Ep. 13

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

@@paullawrence3714 these kinds of videos aren't for idiots with little to no common sense.

[@Toobula]

I always wondered what the deal was with the rings not being a full circle and the blow-by through the gap. I had no idea that the worse problem was the gap closing - and that you might need to widen it. Very interesting, great video.

[@fraxonthefurry21]

It's funny how we car people can care so much for an engine.

[@kenyanr1]

We have to. Most of us ain't got money.

[@ramairgto72]

It's a living "thing" to us. Being a PMD guy, Chevy is my mortal enemy, but it's still sad to see one "sent to the chair".

[@MichaelSodapop]

I only care about things that belong to me, if someone destroys an item worth thousands it don't matter. However if anything of mine, even if it's only worth a penny gets damaged I'll fucking kill whoever is responsible.

[@mikeR39]

Um they care because it took money to build. Do you not care about your things that cost thousands..

[@MichaelSodapop]

Mike Morrison I know some punk ass kids on here who do. Completely lost it when one fool in the comments below another video made the claim that a Grand for a PC is cheap.

[@richardhaviland6204]

This was very impressive! I have no experience with nitrous and have never watched someone tune an engine with it. Really interesting.

[@JazzyAnasazi]

2:33 99% of CSGO players wish they had precision and accuracy like this dude pouring oil

[@catdieselpower193]

dam lol that was one ass kickin 305!! R.I.P

[@xxibgdrgn5933]

Whenever I saw NOS it will remind me to Brian O'Connor green eclipse 😂

[@kenswitzer4133]

Impressed by cast crank and rod strength.

[@pauljohnsonii950]

i know a million people have said this.....so it's not stock...just pull an engine out of say a v6 camry and boost it until it explodes...don't say stock when it's not stock

[@coreyfryer2712]

When they said stock engine, they likely meant stock guts as the amount of nitrous in a V6 Camry probably couldn't handle much of anything considering it's not built for high energy output.

[@roarore8810]

The bottom end, which is what nitrous breaks, is indeed stock.

[@blueblood5297]

@@coreyfryer2712 I don't know Toyota over build there motors the amount of power a 1uz 4.0litre V8 can handle bone stock is insane

[@flubdreload2818]

Rewatch the beginning and you’ll catch that they said bone stock short block.

[@pauljohnsonii950]

@@flubdreload2818 what they say and what they do are two different things

[@amagedoncorelone]

WOW free Motortrend content ? WTF?

[@texaspoontapper3331]

Rare

[@Mrwaffleandmilk]

Well it was obviously sponsored !

[@driveventures7445]

Now you need to take that 305,rebuild it with the right parts,and show everyone what kind of a nos beating it will take before it blows!

[@omgmyspleen3582]

Those nice, thick cylinder walls will handle some intense pressures 😎

[@AB-80X]

Throwing money at a 305 is sheer insanity.

[@RealSteelStreet]

I would usually say so as well but considering this one made 350hp with a cam and a set of vortech heads not so much...that's extremely impressive n/a #'s!!

[@nickcarvelli9275]

Here In Minnesota I run a wissota pure stock and all we are aloud to run is a Chevy 305 and I can say there not that bad guys build them and make 300+ all the time lol

[@j.j.s.jr.5136]

Makes me wanna just build the stock 305 H.o. in the Monte SS intead of ripping it out and doing the everyone same Jane 350 swap. Lol

[@V8rings]

I did a 305 for the Popular Hotrodding magazine Engine Master's. Made 468hp @ 6,500 And 412 ft lbs.@ 5,100. Cool little motors

[@omarlagasca7487]

I watched this 5 years after it’s first showing and it’s hilarious

[@frank09busa]

very predictable result. still amazed that 305 can take that much because I was saying to myself that it couldn't take no more than 75 shot. Thank you so much for uploading

[@RealSteelStreet]

Quite impressive...of course, I'm shocked that thing was making 350ci type numbers with the same cam and heads! Better than some actually...I would've been impressed with those n/a #'s from an actual 350 setup the exact same!!

[@michaelb.krouse4793]

You should do a video of how much horsepower ur car losses over time, say like when u buy a new car it has 700hp and 9 years later how much horsepower do u have still, what can 9 or so years do to ur hp rating

[@jacobschmoyer7630]

Well one huge figured difference between a motor loosing horsepower and a car losing horsepower is that the motor's energy is being pushed through a transmission, and axles, and wheels. The other parts that stop rolling so nicely tend to fight the motor and cause it to break down faster. Bearings start losing polish, cams start getting a little flat, wires corrode, rings thin... Eventually the parts that solidly transfered energy from the piston head to the rear wheels get so much slop that the power actually ends up working at breaking parts down till they just don't work no more. My 92 explorer used to get 17mpg, now it's down to 12 and the radiator leaks. But the ac works great!

[@dmsdmullins]

Or you could just do a compression test and compare it to factory which would show you how bad valves, cam and rings are wearing.

[@jacobschmoyer7630]

I don't think you caught the drift of what I was saying, the comment was more of an answer as to why vehicles lose horsepower over time. As for your comment, a compression test does nothing but show compression, doesn't tell you if a valve is stuck open or of a gasket blown or a piston melted through. No way could it give you an idea of the nature of several components in a system as far as wear goes. I also fail to see any linkage between a cam being flat and compression. Unless of course your talking about an exhaust valve not lifting, and giving too much compression. But that would be cam failure, and even then that could be valve failure, or blockage, so yeah... Compression is just compression..

[@dmsdmullins]

I answered your question precisely. Not my fault you can't grasp it.

[@deven4695]

I am pretty sure a compression test can tell you if a valve is open, blown gasket, or a melted piston because if you had any of these you would not have compression.. right? And if your intake valves aren't opening enough or at all to let air in because you have a wiped lobe you will have 0 compression. Compression tests are one of the most helpful of diagnostics you can do .

[@joepatenaude3957]

I want to see more of the little 305 that could

[@JayP7.62]

I want a little 305 like that! I was impressed by the power it made even without nitrous. But I think the 150 shot was a great match for it. Makes me want to build it one! I have a friend with an old S10 I could throw it in.

[@Miragedude28]

I find it funny that on the 13th episode, you guys kill an engine.

[@Thee_Sinner]

* Twilight Zone music fades in *

[@joshua.guevara]

13 likes? Illuminati

[@JerZeyFiveOh]

Illuminati confirmed.

[@chinchfiles]

+JerZeyFiveOh nah illuminati luv avgas

[@Mrjohnnymoo1]

I'm curious about how much it would make with the filed rings?

[@SteadyFreddie]

Probably 2

[@hereinmissoula11]

+1

[@Mrjohnnymoo1]

600 is damn impressive, next roadkill episode, how much reliable HP can they make out of a 305 chevy on spray!

[@Koshunae]

Hell I would've been happy at 500 just for a street machine to merge on the interstate haha

[@Mrjohnnymoo1]

Koshunae Same for me, it made loads more than I thought, I am just curious how far it can go.

[@mikecorleone6797]

I wanna know what Ford’s new 7.3 pushrod v8 would make hopped up on the dyno.. I’m very excited about this new v8 potential for the hotrod community

[@generalkayoss7347]

All of it. All the power. That's what it makes.

[@geoffbuck6865]

Probably the best production values on KZbin ...

[@EDentzo]

Didn't know Robert Duvall was a nitrous expert

[@RealSteelStreet]

😂

[@ScrewHeadJuNgle]

I hope freiburger never smiles like that again.

[@icesoft1]

Quite sinister looking isn't it...

[@ScrewHeadJuNgle]

lol...nightmarish

[@KC16A6]

I'm not into American engines, but you can feel the love for anything mechanical from these guys so I like it ^^ - emotional video, really ;) Also, it's very informational and comprehensive, subscribed !

[@wiseandhumble2470]

What's wrong with American motors?

[@KC16A6]

@@wiseandhumble2470 mmm inefficiency and reliability issues for starters ;)

[@midsouth2strokes185]

​@@KC16A6 Wow I think we all got dumber from your comment.

[@midsouth2strokes185]

Your on the wrong channel English Muffin. This is all American iron on this channel

[@KC16A6]

@@midsouth2strokes185 nah... you had already reached a depth impossible to beat you're on your own, there, buddy 🤣🤣🤣 also, from your grammar skills, I can safely assume you're a fine specimen of Southern inbreeding lmao

[@raceoconnor1205]

I have an old abused 305 in my demolition derby car and that thing is an absolute animal

[@greghughey9738]

not bad fellas lol I was actually quite impressed with the results you got from that little fella. Would have been kinda cool to see how far it could've went with the correct ring end gap...good episode guys. Nice..very nice

[@codycleveland2853]

NOS RATES THEIR JETS BY REAR WHEEL HP THATS THY IT MADE MORE

[@Motor-City-Mike]

All the losses are "taken care of" before any power adder, adding the nitrous doesn't create any more - so a 100 shot adds 100 at the wheels the same as at the crank.

[@DynamicVlogs69]

About 9:05 you said it'll go LEAN if the bottle pressure is low. I think you meant it'll go RICH if the bottle pressure is low.

[@dementedweasel1]

I agree, the fuel solonoid is still on.

[@christygore3518]

+David Freiburger y? not progress the NOS in . just to see if it would have lived. .

[@dwinnie]

explain i dont know anything

[@markp.7109]

Lean means too much oxygen not enough fuel, when you run low on NOS you run low on oxygen, but are still supplying the same amount of fuel. Too much fuel means you are running rich.

[@dwinnie]

ahhhh thank you

[@朝倉正樹-l4k]

It's very useful because there had more cases about NOS Accidents【Street Racing, D1(Drift), Drag Race(0-400/0-1000)】!!

[@ayumuchan3541]

Jessie: "was that fun?" Crowd: "OOOOOOOHH" Dom: "what u smiling about?" Brain: "dude i almost had you"

[@NotTreyCabbage]

A Troll Brain ? Brian ?

[@notjustanotherrandomguy]

1:18 is where you find out it's not so stock. Wanna impress? Pull a 305 out of an 80's monte and run the test again.

[@fwh79FOXR6]

notjustanoterhrandomguy if they can get the 305 out of an 80's monte carlo to start THAT would be impressive! JK, I like the way you think though.

[@cameronanderson1670]

It’s a stock short block... that’s all they claimed it was, and that’s exactly what it is

[@cameronanderson1670]

Also i just realized this comment was from over a year ago and this just makes me look like an asshole. Sorry

[@jdrok5026]

Richard Skipper remember nitrous on 305 stock heads can cause a lot of heat

[@jeepguy4ever30]

ya there is no way they could actually test the strength of the rotating assembly on stock heads they are just too restrictive. even with vortec heads the piston didnt fail. the ring gap expanded enough to close up the gap causing it to break. same thing woulda happened to a more expensive forged piston. either that or the ring woulda broke but somethings gotta give.

[@nobodyhere4860]

Thats impressive they took a lethargic 305 put vortec heads, cam, good intake and carb, and it laid down over 355hp and 325tq! That surprised me. Then it took a 150 shot and produced over 550hp!! like it was nothing! What's funny is if anyone had that set-up on the streets, it would last a long time, as long as you had the safety gear for the nitrous that they had! Lol you'd be cleaning house with a 305 on juice😂😂😂 oh how you'd piss a lot of people off! Can't believe it made over 600hp and took it😃 from how they went from 50% on both to 100% on both, that beast was probably making over 800 before it went!!!!! Impressive, if they filed the rings for nitrous who knows how much power it would have made...

[@josesanchez4727]

Russell Mostrom what cam is it again?

[@sivvybee]

Same changes would make 440 hp with a 350.

[@apachewraith]

sivvybee Truft

[@billbill7894]

Whp is different then motor hp NOS is based off whp for numbers

[@CrownOfGoldCompleatSacrifice_2]

You should consider this one fact we got our love for this guy from road kill speaking to his success before today and which brings him into destiny before our tread

[@cracklingice]

So it's salvageable? Guess that means a revisit with built bottom end.

[@thehandlesticks66]

I want a budget NOS build!

[@cracklingice]

This WAS the budget NOS build.

[@thehandlesticks66]

+cracklingice no it wasn't, they said this was a stock engine not meant for NOS at all.

[@cracklingice]

Short block does not equal budget build. Therefore this was the budget build.

[@cracklingice]

And it wasn't a stock engine, it was just a stock short block. The cam and short block up are all aftermarket.

[@Avon_Barksdale]

Why is this channel not yet verified?

[@BadIdeas101]

Put a fuckton of nitrous through an old 22r. That motor will send a piston into space when it finally does fail

[@CarlosPF94]

BadIdeas101 SpaceX

[@goocherrific]

+1 for 22r or 20r or 22re would be ok for me too! Heck I'd like to see these guys do any of the jz line up as well!

[@Xxassass1n021xX]

Nitrous oxide sends me to space too lol

[@boostjunkie2320]

Bro nitrous is no match for the the 22R, it can handle anything!! Plus 100psi!!

[@rafaelsancheziii2885]

My Brother did you grow up in my family. Chingadera! You kill me. Loving it.