F-150 EcoBoost (3.5L) Vs. Sierra AT4 (6.2L) DRAG RACE!

Ford F150 EcoBoost Vs. GMC Sierra 6.2 - BOTH 2022 brand new trucks!!!
Hey Everyone, welcome back!
Hope all of you are keeping well!
The last time we raced a 3.5 EcoBoost Vs. a 6.2L Sierra ( • F-150 EcoBoost (3.5L) ... ) we had a 2018 F-150 and the AT4 was a 2021.
Quite a few people mentioned that we should get a 2021+ F-150 EcoBoost and re-run the race because Ford increased the power of the 3.5's after 2021.
Thankfully, we were able to find two brand new trucks and try again. So for today we have a 2022 Ford F-150 with the updated 3.5L Twin Turbo EcoBoost V6 engine, making 400Hp and 500 Tq Vs. a 2022 GMC Sierra 1500 AT4 with the 6.2L V8 which makes 420Hp and 460Tq.
The Sierra has a 3.23 differential and the F-150 has a 3.55 differential and the Ford weighs in at a little less than the GM as well.
We had the trucks in 4x4 with traction control off for every race, and we were brake torquing/boosting on every launch as well to get the trucks going as quick as possible - they're both FAST trucks and we had a lot of fun filming the video!
Here are our thoughts about the outcome of the race:
We were very surprised that the GM won and we realize that there are a handful of videos where the F-150 comes out on top in a race. We believe that because we race at Sea Level, the GM has all of its available power, when compared to a channel like TLF truck - they are racing at between 5000 and 6000 feet (likely) because they are in Boulder, Colorado. Forced Induction engines perform far
better than Naturally Aspirated engines when at altitude so that can make a big difference.
Additionally, there's the rear end (differential) ratios. As amazing as it would be to just pick any truck with any specific differential, we are limited to the vehicles that we are able to find - so the rear end can obviously make quite an impact in a race like this as well. What we're saying is that it seems as though both trucks have the potential to win, just based on the location of the race, the specs of the truck, the rear end ratios, etc. And for this specific race, the GM took the win.
Overall, we'll continue to do our best to make specific races happen for you guys, and as we grow, we'll be able to leverage that to hopefully obtain more vehicles and make more specific races happen.
Be sure to check out the race we did between an F-150 PowerBoost and a 6.2 Sierra CarbonPro:
• F-150 PowerBoost Vs. S...
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[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for watching everyone! If you like AT4's, head over to Instagram and give @AT4Garage a follow instagram.com/at4garage/ fantastic page with great content!! Also, anyone know why the GM doesn't have sport mode? Didn't seem to make much of a difference in its speed but we found that odd.

[@heavenlyview5519]

Apparently there has been an incorrect IPC calibration, which is incorrectly listing Sport Mode. The engineers are working to fix it. It will be neat to see if it makes any difference, once it's fixed. Who knows.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@heavenlyview5519 Well ain't that something! Thanks :D

[@yfarmeaahka]

After commenting on your last video with the 2018, I was super excited to see this video come up! Also love the fact you guys are testing at the same elevation I’m at.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for your support! Yeah this was a really fun race, and much more to come as well :)

[@emiller7108]

Great video and well done. Love the sea level tests .. Car and driver had the 22 Tremor 3.5L at 5.3 sec 0-60 and 13.9 sec in 1/4. They also showed the Denali 6.2L at 5.4 sec. 0-60 and the same 13.9 sec in the 1/4 mile. Very close even when professionally driven. I own a 23 3.5 Tremor and the torque at low -mid range is crazy fun. It wants to run for sure.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for your comment! Yeah sea level can make a big difference for sure! We’re still not entirely sure how these trucks can break into the 13’s in stock form in the 1/4 - we did everything we could to get them going as fast as possible - brake torquing are various RPM’s, 2WD, 4WD, different modes, etc. could be even a difference in how we time them. We don’t have a drag tree so we just look back on the footage and literally time from the exact frame that the vehicles start to move, to the exact frame that they hit the finish. So it’s about as accurate as possible. It would be interesting to see if there is a slight difference in times between our method and and a drag strip or Dragy device. Either way, yeah totally agree - they’re both FAST trucks. Hope your F150 runs well for you for a long time!

[@9663mu]

Alright guys. I’m in. Love these videos

[@KingdomAuto]

Very much appreciated, thank you for your support!

[@kafroony]

This was the best car video I have watched in a while.. Thank you.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for your comment, we have much more to come so feel free to subscribe if you feel so inclined. Thanks again!

[@heavenlyview5519]

" good job racing in the GMC! I love watching your stuff guys, please keep it coming!" - JJ (5 years old)

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for watching our videos JJ! :)

[@thegonz7833]

Great presentation,all the specs shown,this is what we want to see,no one else does it like this.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thank you. Much more to come :)

[@someguywithaford]

Wow, didn’t expect that! Me and my dad raced our trucks (a 2018 F-150 3.5 EcoBoost and a 2018 GMC Yukon 6.2L) and my F-150 came out on top. I think it’s interesting that even though the EcoBoost has gotten more powerful that it’s maybe gotten slower.

[@KingdomAuto]

Haha we didn’t expect this result either! I think the biggest difference is the transmission. Back in 2018 the GM’s only had 6 speed’s I believe (maybe 8) but around 2020, 2021 they switched over to a 10 speed and that drastically improved acceleration and 1/4 mile time for the 6.2 engines. Pretty wild! Also keep in mind, there are many factors that could change results. Things like trim level, differential ratio, altitude at which the race takes place, etc. In our case, with these trucks, the Chev surprisingly took the win!

[@bhslefty]

great video

[@KingdomAuto]

Thank you

[@jkim13055]

Do you know what model, size and load rating the tires on the F150 are? They look much more aggressive and taller than the dynapro at2s that usually come on fx4 F150s in the US. Sam CarLegion did a few videos with a 3.5 tremor that performed pretty well against two different gm 6.2 10 speed trucks

[@KingdomAuto]

They’re just a factory option from Ford. Can confirm 100% that they are not any taller as we measured them against another factory tire on a new F150. So they definitely wouldn’t impact race time at all. Additionally, the AT4 we had in this video also had aggressive factory tires on it so it was an even race. Sam’s races also didn’t list rear end ratios as well so that could have been enough to make the difference. Bottom line, both trucks are very quick and it seems, depending on trim levels, differential ratios, options, etc - either model could win depending on the configuration

[@emanuelbrister5903]

That’s crazy, I rented one of those eco-boost and nobody could beat it.

[@KingdomAuto]

Those new 6.2 GM’s with the 10 speed are seriously quick. Also depends on rear end ratio, altitude at which the race took place, etc. But yeah in our case the Chev won with ease. We were surprised too

[@TheWolfMatt]

Just a quick fyi, the GM truck traction control has one more setting to turn off. You have to click and hold the TC button while in drive which also turns off STM (Stabil Track Management) and the Traction Control, it does get a faster launch with both off. And do dry putting the GMC Denali 6.2 vs the F-150 Platinum 3.5L, the high-end trucks do tend to be quicker off the line and have a higher limiter. Nice video though, keep'em coming.

[@KingdomAuto]

Shoot I think the Ford has a setting like that as well that we didn’t turn off. We’ll have to make sure to do that in future videos, thanks for the heads up!

[@upshifter5316]

@@KingdomAuto These auto makers are tricky with the stability control stuff. They make them like top secret cheat codes. Their lawyers really don't want people turning them off! On the Fords, you actually have to press and hold the AdvanceTrac button for AT LEAST 10 seconds to fully shut it off. Any less than that and you get a slightly less intrusive - but still enabled - traction control mode called "AdvanceTrac Sport". That being said, as a tuned F150 EcoBoost owner with \many passes on a drag strip testing the different modes, I don't think the difference is large between the latter 2 modes if you are launching in 4WD, as "AdvanceTrac Sport" does permit some decent shenanigans. More variable will come from the driver.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@upshifter5316 Yeah funny enough, we both come from a family of Ford owners and are well aware of the whole “secret” settings lol. We just both completely forgot to turn them all off. General traction control was off on both trucks and thankfully, they both don’t spin their tires at all in 4x4 so the 1/4 mile time shouldn’t be impacted. But that said, we’ll remember to try this stuff out in the future :) Thanks for the info

[@joaquin8647]

Por. Se6. Es. Bueno

[@FeralCompanions.]

What fuel was used for each truck? I know for max performance you must use premium in an ecoboost. I'm sure the 6.2 could benefit from premium as well. Good runs.

[@KingdomAuto]

Good point! Premium in both :)

[@Johnman3341]

6.2 is premium only

[@anthonydixon90]

No e85 for eco boost I have one

[@FastTimes75]

6.2 has to have premium. That’s what GM says

[@foxwithshades7080]

The 3.5L and 5.0L usually wins at elevation against the 6.2L because they can both get air in the engine more efficiently then the pushrod. But at sea level the 6.2L still holds its own.

[@KingdomAuto]

Interesting, thanks for your comment! Yeah we’re still looking for a newer Coyote 5.0 to get out to the track. We are very curious to test it against the other trucks we have access to, like these two and also the PowerBoost.

[@na4valve]

@@KingdomAuto where y’all located?

[@KingdomAuto]

@@na4valve We’re up in Canada :)

[@na4valve]

@@KingdomAuto well never mind lol was going to throw my 5.0 in the mix.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@na4valve Ah shoot, thanks for trying! We’re really hopeful we can find one for those coming summer, everyone is saying the 2021+ 5.0’s are serious performers

[@patwieferich3541]

I wonder if the rear diff. gear ratio (3.23 vs 3.55) makes the difference at the top end?

[@KingdomAuto]

It would be really interesting to see the results with different rear end ratios for sure. We just ran the trucks that we were able to get our hands on but we hope to test these things out in the future when we have more vehicles available to us.

[@paulgrinold1103]

I think the xlt with the 3.55 rear end is the quickest of the ford's.

[@drewsky1967]

all the AT4s come with 3.23 rear end ratios. wondering what the f150 has.. you can get them in 3.23 3.55 and 3.73 i think that would make a difference as well?

[@KingdomAuto]

We listed all that info in the video near the beginning when we were doing the intro, cheers!

[@MaKawks]

I always put 93 octane in my 22 3.5 eco. It makes a big difference. Did y'all use regular unleaded?

[@KingdomAuto]

We had Premium in the EcoBoost, and almost positive there was premium in the GM as well

[@MaKawks]

@@KingdomAuto Thank you, great video. Subbing.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@MaKawks Much appreciated! Many more races to come

[@darinhardin2483]

They need E85 in the eco boost it would have smoked the gmc

[@KingdomAuto]

@@darinhardin2483 We don’t have that available where we are in Canada. There’s always something that can change the results of a race - a tune, performance parts, differential ratio, etc etc. For us we’re much more interested in just stock for stock races to see which vehicle is faster out of the gate. That said, one day we do hope to look at how much tunes and modifications can improve 1/4 mile times

[@robertalan4346]

Kicked me oooout

[@KingdomAuto]

Oooout and abooout!!

[@JustinDaniels]

If you ever come down to Florida, USA, you can use my V6 Accord Coupe for a race lol. I'd like to see racing at near sea level on a proper drag strip against some other cars like the 2.0 T Accord.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks a ton! Have you ever taken your car to a drag strip? Yeah the V6 Vs. 2.0 would be a fun one to see. We're having a hard time finding a V6 Accord up here. The 2.0's are new enough that we can rent one but the V6 is proving to be a bit tough. We really want to see that race too though

[@JustinDaniels]

@@KingdomAuto Yeah, visit Florida and you can use mine lol. I've never taken my car to a dragstrip, but I think there's a major one somewhere in Florida called "Bradenton". I have the 2017 V6 Accord Coupe Touring (Automatic transmission with paddle shift). Last of the V6 Accords.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@JustinDaniels Really appreciate that, thank you for the offer! Neither of us are in the US that often but it's definitely a possibility one day. We'll get in touch if either of us are ever there :) Oh nice, those cars are fantastic. Reliable, fun, fast. Really miss the V6 for sure

[@upshifter5316]

@@KingdomAuto Ah yes, the proverbial and fabled V6 Accord; ruiner of egos and purveyor of stealth.

[@henry998]

Shhh ur in an accord that will get smoked... was waiting to here some dumb post like this

[@Tazer120]

Funny, My GMC with the 6.2 also has a sport mode, why did you guys not use sport mode in the GMC?

[@KingdomAuto]

As mentioned in the video, this truck didn’t have it :) Take a look around online, there’s a bunch of new GM’s that haven’t come with sport mode. We’re still unsure as to why, but we’re 100% sure that this truck didn’t have sport mode

[@bigadielldne7234]

Turn on tow haul mode for more torque​@@KingdomAuto

[@KingdomAuto]

@@bigadielldne7234 we tried that (off camera), didn’t make any difference at all in the 1/4 mile time

[@upshifter5316]

Good job guys! Appreciate you incorporating the weights from the Door jamb! People always nit pick, this isn't that, but rather just an idea: would also interesting to see you guys race from a flat foot (no brake boosting, probably in 2wd). This would be representative of most real-world scenarios, e.g. what you might do at a stop light or on-ramp. And more content. Boosted launches on public roads are juvenile, obnoxious, and quite fun nevertheless.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for the suggestion, we actually ran a race doing exactly that but just didn’t include it. Both trucks spun their tires like crazy and it ruined the 1/4 mile times. GM still won but we just chose not to include the race in this video :)

[@lesterpittenger5992]

Yeah, nit pick. 😂

[@blu3thund3rz58]

When the mass air flow detects specific load it disengages the ac compressor anyway so that didn’t really affect it

[@KingdomAuto]

Interesting, thanks for letting us know! We reviewed the 1/4 mile times and it seemed to make about 1/10th of a second difference (slower) but that could have been even down to the launch as well. Kinda neat that it will turn itself off though

[@workct4102]

Yeah...its quite annoying when trying to drive my Chevy up a hill in the summer time.

[@xKontractKi11er]

Those ecoboost engines are putting out nice numbers

[@KingdomAuto]

Indeed

[@juniorgonzalez48322]

I want to see this 6.2l Sierra 10speed with a 10speed f-150 5.0l

[@KingdomAuto]

We do too Junior! We’ve been on the hunt for a newer 5.0 Coyote F-150 for a while now. As soon as we can find one it’s getting out on the track against this truck and others :)

[@johnewen1911]

Love the 6.2 but would probably go with an ecoboost again. Biggest reason is with a $600 tune it turns into a beast. The 6.2 takes a lot more $$$ to be able to compete

[@KingdomAuto]

Yeah that makes total sense, those EcoBoost engines respond very well to mods

[@jrod7929]

Have a tuned '13 Eco and looking to get a new truck. About 150k miles, no issues, but showing its age. Trying to decide between a 6.2L or another Eco. Tough call stock. But I keep thinking about a few hundred more for a quick tune and my Eco would be race car ready again 😆.

[@KingdomAuto]

Yeah those 3.5’s with a tune are serious performers! Tough call between the two trucks…. Seems the 6.2’s are having some issues with their lifters lately so as long as you’ve got a warranty on the truck you’d be ok. Ford’s 3.5 engines have had a lot of problems with the cam phasers but apparently it’s not as common after 2021… Either way, we really like both trucks. More than enough power and very capable for 1/2 tons!

[@jason91205]

Heck no run that thing in the ground and keep your cash! My ‘15 3.5 ecoboost has 284k on it and runs like new.

[@willardgentry6624]

Great and fun video but I noticed every Ford that you test has that heavy panoramic roof. I don't think most people realize how heavy those panoramic roofs are, I mean the glass on those things are very thick. There was an old video on KZbin with two 2016 or 2017 F-150s. Both trucks had the same configuration, drivetrain, gears and etc. The only difference was the panoramic moonroof option. If I remember correctly, the difference was 3 to 4 tenths of a second. I think we could agree that is a big difference in a drag race. I don't know if you officially weighed these trucks but in a Car and driver test, the F-150 with the panoramic roof actually weighed more than the GMC.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for the info. We always use the door stickers to give EXACT curb weight. GVWR - Payload. So in this case, even despite the panoramic roof the Ford is still the lighter truck. That said, we’ve said many times that if the trucks have different options, the outcome of the race could possibly change (trim levels, differential ratios, altitude, etc) In this case, the GM won. But the Ford did have the faster 0-100kph time

[@willardgentry6624]

@@KingdomAuto keep up the good work

[@philmcmorris2468]

Can y’all do a dodge Durango citadel

[@KingdomAuto]

If we can get our hands on one, sure :)

[@jarred8868]

Would love to see the gmc vs a powerboost.

[@KingdomAuto]

We’ve actually done that race already: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY Just make sure to see the actual 1/4 mile times at the end of the video. It was such a close race between the two trucks that the launch would be enough to dictate the winner. There’s no denying that the PowerBoost is faster than the GMC, but if the Sierra launched slightly early, or even had a better launch it can take the win in a 1/4 mile race (at sea level anyways, which we’re at).

[@jarred8868]

@@KingdomAuto looks like a tune for an extra 100hp it is.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@jarred8868 Yeah there’s no denying that the 3.5 EcoBoost responds far better to mods. It would be fun to test these trucks after bolt ons + tunes, etc just to see how they perform. Hopefully one day we’ll be able to do that kinda stuff :)

[@larryjohns8823]

Run with "tow/haul" mode on. That keeps the trans in each gear longer.

[@KingdomAuto]

We tried that, didn't change a thing for 1/4 mile time for us

[@bserieshatch1]

In my '15 EB 3.5 i put it in 4A, Sport mode, traction off, advance trac in sport and boost to 3500. Cant find a chevy to lose to. And my truck is 4 door 6' bed lariat.

[@KingdomAuto]

Cool, that’s basically exactly how we launched the F150 in this video as well. Only difference was we had traction control off. As you can see in the video, the Ford got off to a great start (especially the last race) but lost in the top end which means the launch had almost nothing to do with the results of the race. The Sierra also won the rolling race too which confirms it’s not the launch that caused the F150 to lose. We were surprised as well. But the new 10 speed 6.2’s have a really strong top end. There’s no doubt that different gearing/options/trim packages, etc can make a big difference in a truck race. So there’s no doubt that a 3.5 Eco can take a new 6.2 but in this specific case, the Chevy was faster

[@wetwillybilly9956]

Why not do apples to apples? Race a 21 f150 vs a 21 denali. That 21 F150 will win every time.

[@KingdomAuto]

How is this not apples to apples? A Denali would be more suited to line up against a Platinum or Limited trim F150. And all that would change is basically interior options. Engine size and output would be the same. As far as things go, the AT4 would even be heavier than something like an Elevation so this race gave the Ford more of an advantage, being more of a basic package compared to the GM. Your comment doesn’t make much sense. If anything, an Elevation would be a better match against the F150 we had, and that would give the GM even more of an advantage being lighter.

[@wetwillybilly9956]

@@KingdomAuto Race model year against model year. The 21 F150 is almost a full half second faster to 60 than the 18. It makes perfect sense if you know what you're talking about. 3 years of extra tech these days makes a large difference.

[@wetwillybilly9956]

@@KingdomAuto Also, the 21 has 25 more HP and 30 more lb ft of torque. They most definitely do not have the same output.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@wetwillybilly9956 Did you even watch the video? We're racing a 2022 F-150 Vs a 2022 Sierra lol. These are BRAND NEW TRUCKS. Where on earth are you getting 2018 from? Make sure you're getting your facts straight before making a comment about a vehicle that is not even in our video my friend.

[@gerryarcia]

Where the hell do you guys get 158 ??? When does trucks have a Governor & it tops out around 105 !!!

[@KingdomAuto]

Km/h my friend 😂 we’re in Canada

[@jewllake]

For a great sounding N/A V8 motor, the 6.2 is a beast.

[@KingdomAuto]

Agreed, the top end power they have is fantastic, especially when paired with that new 10 speed transmission too

[@Kolar1791]

Should do the same test with a 6k-8k lb trailer

[@KingdomAuto]

If we owned the trucks, we might. Not our vehicles.

[@dudefromthe80s46]

“what is happening right now”- as the owner of a 21 AT4 w/ the 6.2L there’s much more to get out of this truck. Also, mine has sport mode on a knob left of the steering wheel. Didn’t know they removed it from the 22’s? I’ve accidentally hit 103 MPH getting on the interstate before realizing my speed. It will absolutely shit and get from 60-100 MPH. I’ve never topped it out, but I believe it’s governed at 108mph. Guess I’ll have to find out

[@KingdomAuto]

Those new 6.2 Sierra's with the 10 speed transmissions are certainly very fast trucks! We're not sure why this specific truck didn't have sport mode. We've looked around online and apparently we're not the only ones either. Could have had something to do with the chip shortage, as there are also multiple people that have confirmed that their '22 indeed has sport mode (we filmed this race when the truck was basically brand new and had just been purchased). And with regards to the speed limiter, that apparently depends on the tires that the truck has from the factory. Our truck was electronically limited to 158kph (98mph) but we've heard of others that have a higher limit.

[@higherlifts420]

5.0l guys think they can beat the 6.2l but the ecoturd can't even hang hahaha

[@KingdomAuto]

Yeah it was a surprising race even for us as well. We both thought the Ford was gonna take the win. We’ve heard that the newer 2021+ 5.0’s are really strong in the top end, and even hang with the 3.5 - so we’re trying to find one and get it out against both of these trucks!

[@lanemorrow7417]

Fords are faster bud, not sure what happened here but its been proven for years

[@KingdomAuto]

Just because something has been the same for years doesn’t mean things don’t change. Most Ford guys have never raced a 6.2 with the 10 speed transmission. That changes a lot. Then there’s rear end ratios that can play into things too, and definitely altitude of the race. Not saying that the F150 isn’t faster with different options, rear end, etc. But In this case the Chevy took the win easily and both trucks were new

[@johnjett5927]

I actually love both trucks. The 6.2 is a killer NA engine. The top end 6.2 will not beat a 3.5 High Output with 450/510. But again, I love both trucks and I'm actually torn between a Denali and a Limited right now

[@KingdomAuto]

Agreed, it’s hard to go wrong with either of them. Both are capable and both also come with their own sets of potential issues too so it seems to come down mainly to preference. Yeah the high output EcoBoost engine is crazy. We are on the hunt for one to get out to our track :) All the best with the purchase of the truck you end up going with!

[@Alpine642]

I got a sle 2023 x31 with a v8 and it’s a really great truck. Denali woiod be even better

[@robertlandrum8598]

Need to race the 5.0 Ford it’s neck and neck with the 6.2 seen them race lots

[@KingdomAuto]

Yeah agreed, we have been looking for a newer 5.0 for a while. Haven’t found one yet

[@edan7813]

AT4s dont have sport mode for some reason, the rest do though. Tow haul still wouldve done a similar job as sport mode

[@KingdomAuto]

Funny enough, after looking around online, some AT4’s do have sport mode and others don’t. We raced a 2021 1500 AT4 on this channel as well, same spec as the 2022 in this video, and it had sport mode. We’re not exactly sure why some do and some don’t. Also, we tried tow/haul and timed the 1/4 mile, there was no difference compared to normal mode :)

[@edan7813]

@@KingdomAuto oh okay. The GM AT4 and ZR2s are weird then. I thought all of them don’t have sport mode but I guess I was wrong

[@KingdomAuto]

@@edan7813 it is strange, totally agreed! Some people have said it has something to do with the tire package selected from the factory. We’re both not sure at all though

[@edan7813]

@@KingdomAuto that’s the last thing I would’ve expected to determine the modes

[@titostacos114]

are these canadian trucks because in the US the 2022 at4 has a sport mode

[@KingdomAuto]

We are in Canada but after doing some research, it doesn’t seem to be about location. There are a bunch of people that we know of in the US that own new AT4’s and they also don’t have Sport mode. All we can find is that it seems to depend on what tires came fitted to the truck from the factory. Not sure if that’s correct or not, but it’s very odd though, that some come with sport mode and others don’t.

[@titostacos114]

@@KingdomAuto definitely weird wonder why they wouldn't put it on every truck also could be related to the technology package I'll do some research myself on it

[@KingdomAuto]

@@titostacos114 100% agreed. We had a 2020 AT4 featured on this channel as well, raced it against a few other trucks and it had sport mode. We were really surprised to see that the newer one didn’t have that feature! Didn’t seem to matter in this race though 😂 GM still took the race with ease

[@x246813579]

​@@KingdomAuto I know this is an old comment but sport mode is available on the AT4's with 20" wheels and not with the 18" wheels. 2022-2023. 2024's now all have it if you get the active exhaust.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@x246813579 interesting, wonder why that is, thanks for sharing :)

[@Patroit1776]

Should try the gmc with the max tow package with 3.42 rear to match that ford.

[@KingdomAuto]

Yeah it’s hard to get picky with rear end ratios. We race what we are able to get access to so it’s tough to find specific matchups like that. That said, the GM won quite easily so the 3.42 would likely give it even more torque off the line

[@aidanroebuck4641]

wow I like Zeb's truck

[@KingdomAuto]

It's a good looking truck!

[@javaloots696]

the problem is the stock intercooler. change it stock one is blah. then be different story even with the 375hp 2018

[@KingdomAuto]

Really eh, interesting. Yeah there’s definitely no doubt that the 3.5 EcoBoost engines respond very well to mods

[@lmpactic]

GM has a sport mode on my 2022 GMC Sierra AT4.... Weird that yours doesn't have it in the 2023... must've been eliminated.

[@KingdomAuto]

It is really weird, agreed. This truck is actually a 2022 as well but we think it might have something to do with the chip shortage??? Maybe there’s an update available for it to be able to have it put in. Either way, the GM still won the race 😂

[@lmpactic]

​@@KingdomAuto I should've stated that my truck is a pre-refresh 2022. Also, I was looking around the forums and found out AT4/Trail Boss (refreshed) came without it depending on which tires were on the truck when built. It seems like trucks that were built with 20" tires have it.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@lmpactic oh ok gotcha. That’s too bad. Having those sport modes can be fun in a number of different situations - like when we filmed this video 😂

[@jeradlouzy]

Huge 6.2 barely beats a V6 put a tune in that 150 from 5 star tuning and that 6.2 gets smoked every single

[@KingdomAuto]

To be fair the V6 has two turbos and 40ft-lbs more torque lol. But yes the 3.5 responds very well to bolt on mods and a tune

[@bigadielldne7234]

A full body aluminum twin turboed and the v8 still getting you top end 😂cry abt it u need turbos

[@lanemorrow7417]

@@bigadielldne7234 Let's put it against the more appropriately sized 5.3 and see what happens....hahahaha

[@bigadielldne7234]

@@lanemorrow7417 theres no 5.3 ford and put 2 turbos on the 6.2 and see whats infront of u in the highway💀

[@lanemorrow7417]

@@bigadielldne7234 Chevy 5.3 aka: boat anchor

[@Tom-ic7hw]

I just want one that wont break down before I get it paid off

[@KingdomAuto]

Fair point! Yeah we’ve seen quite a few issues with both trucks. Mainly the lifters in the 6.2 and the cam phasers in the 3.5’s. Although apparently the phaser issue has been significantly improved in the 2021+ F150’s though, time will tell

[@glennonheinrich8185]

You can't make boost at high elevation so it's at a disadvantage. It's not making anywheres near the power that it would at sea level.

[@KingdomAuto]

First: we ARE at sea level. That’s what we explained in the video. Second: higher altitudes are a disadvantage to every engine, but more so for a naturally aspirated engine vs. Forced induction. This is a well known and proven fact. Although every engine will indeed lose power at higher altitudes, with forced induction, the engine doesn’t have to work as hard to take in oxygen because the air is being compressed into the engine as opposed to “pumped/sucked” in by the pistons.

[@davenielsen8227]

As well ecm’s add boost to offset elevation increase. Very common.

[@RoyalTiger13]

I’ll take the longevity of a V-8 over a boosted V-6, especially towing anything.

[@KingdomAuto]

Yeah I’m inclined to agree. It would be great if GM could sort out the issues with the lifters but apart from that, the LS engines are solid.

[@kona6451]

surprising

[@KingdomAuto]

We were surprised too

[@TheTtacket02]

The 3.23 gear in the gm is usually it biggest downfall. I don't know why gm doesn't offer more ratios.

[@KingdomAuto]

True, it sure seemed to do well in this race. The new 10 speed transmission has done wonders for those trucks. We raced a 2021 AT4 CarbonPro 6.2 against a PowerBoost and it almost kept up in the 1/4 mile. Pretty wild how quick they can get going: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY

[@captainbobette]

You can get a 3.42 in a max towing

[@rubbersatin]

Doesn't need anymore gear. Do the math with transmission ratios

[@workct4102]

​@@captainbobettethat's still high for a truck

[@workct4102]

​@@rubbersatinthat doesnt help with takeoff and shifting

[@asherwestcott9937]

Do the powerboost. Ecoboost is outdated

[@KingdomAuto]

We did that race already: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY Ford updated the EcoBoost engine in 2021 and gave it more power and torque. If anything, it’s been freshly updated.

[@mrbrowz1000101]

That is crazy tho; thought the turbos would realy help + the Ford is lighter.

[@KingdomAuto]

We were just as surprised!! That’s why we tried different modes, tried different rpm’s with the launch and switched drivers, etc. wanted to make sure we did all we could

[@markkeller9378]

Nice test….I saw an F150 3.5 eco, last night, with numerous upgrades to stage 5 I believe….it put down 3.8 sec… 0-60….which equals a vette. Its BP was 700. I would imagine same could be done to the 6.2, but it is fun to see what can be done with these engines. In reality, I have a 2017 Expedition with 3.5 eco…..and I’m getting 18 mpg……while that 6.2 is getting 12 mpg……and to be same speed to 100? Fords engine seems far superior.

[@KingdomAuto]

Yep it depends what you’re after. Simplicity and overall reliability, typically you’d want the V8. For tuning potential, the 3.5 is ahead for sure unless someone wants to drop thousands on forced induction.

[@bigadielldne7234]

Not as reliable as the 6.2 tho ofc the v8 is a gas chuggler

[@kenwolf2431]

You have bigger wheels on the Ford and the bed cover on the GMC makes it have better Aero. Take the bed cover off and have the same wheels on both. Level playing field would have both on same wheels sizes and take the bed cover off or have both with a bed cover. TFL tested a truck with and without a bed cover and does make a difference on areo.

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for your comment. I can see where you’re coming from but take the following into consideration: Both wheel/tire packages on the trucks are factory setups. And, the biggest factor in tire/wheel combo’s, is that overall diameter on both trucks is the same (both on 33’s with an aggressive factory setup). So you’re not going to see any difference there. Re: the bed cover, we tried that in another race and for us, it didn’t make a difference. Nothing measurable in the 1/4 mile anyways. Not sure how TFL saw a difference… we raced a PowerBoost vs. A new EcoBoost, and tried exactly that; cover off and on, and nothing changed. The playing field for this race is very level, with the Sierra being an AT4 and the Ford coming with a factory 33” tire package (same as the Sierra). If the Sierra was on street tires/not an AT4 then you’d be completely correct. Bottom line, the 10 speed 6.2’s at sea level are fast trucks. They run neck and neck with a PowerBoost (PB is faster but by a hair) as shown in another video we did here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY We try to keep these races as fair as possible but we’re doing this in the real world. We race vehicles as we can find them. Although in this case, it is quite a fair matchup as both trucks are 100% stock on factory 33’s.

[@garys2157]

I know it's been a while, but the box cover does add some weight, I am sure mine is over a hundred pounds. Tires can be the same diameter, but one can still be heavier depending on it's composition. Have seen 9n here the mention of these trucks can have so many configurations that weight can vary quite a bit on the same body style, very true, lot of people don't take that into consideration.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@garys2157 in a race like this, where the GM won by such a huge margin, a box cover is not going to change the outcome of the race. That’s proven by when we switched drivers. No difference at all in the 1/4 mile times, despite the weight difference in the drivers (around 70lbs) Additionally, the tires are both an aggressive oem setup, and overall diameter is the same. So they are both heavy, “off road” tires, which actually makes this race more even than if we had touring tires on one, and mud tires on the other. If the race was very close, then you are absolutely correct, these things could change the outcome. But the Chevy won so easily and by such a big margin (even in the rolling race) that these factors we’re talking about wouldn’t be able to change the outcome of the race.

[@gerryarcia]

Well now it makes sence..

[@KingdomAuto]

Now sure what you’re saying here man

[@luisgarcia5950]

First time I see a 6.2. Beat an ecoboost

[@KingdomAuto]

The new 6.2’s with the 10 speed transmission are far faster than the old 6 speed’s

[@luisgarcia5950]

@@KingdomAuto I have one an my buddy has a newer 6.2 I smoke him every time on my 2015 eco boost

[@KingdomAuto]

@@luisgarcia5950 make sure it has the 10 speed transmission. Old versions were much slower. Also something could be wrong with the truck too. We raced the new 6.2 against both the F150 PowerBoost (3.5 hybrid) and the new EcoBoost (this video) and it nearly tied with the PowerBoost and easily walked away from the 3.5 Eco. Not sure why ours was so fast but it pulled very hard

[@pmolczan]

I own the 2023 6.2 SLT crew cab and I was betting on the Ford smoking the 6.2....safe to say I'm surprised and very happy.

[@KingdomAuto]

We were surprised as well! There are definitely a number of factors at play that could potentially change the result of the race, such as differential ratios, elevation of the track, possibly trim of the truck, etc. But this race was relatively fair because both trucks have an aggressive factory wheel/tire setup and we’re also right at sea level as well so the 6.2 won’t struggle to take in any air. So with all things considered, we were pretty surprised to see the AT4 walk away with this race so easily!

[@sherwoodmacleod]

thanks for the honesty

[@508Fluff]

should've found trucks with the same axel ratio

[@KingdomAuto]

Always a critic. Far easier said than done man 😂

[@RayRayP2001]

The Ford is limited to 162 km so not much difference in top speed. US measurements the ford is 101 mph and GM is 98 mph. At least on mine it is 162 kph on the 2.7 Eco-Boost not saying it goes for all models, but mine is a 2023 STX. Just subscribed as well.

[@KingdomAuto]

That’s really interesting, I wonder if that could be based on trim or model? We’ve had the new PowerBoost up to 171kph (106mph) out on the track. Granted that’s not a huge difference from 101 😂 but it’s interesting how it would be different. How do you like your truck? We haven’t raced a 2.7 yet but we’re trying to find one to get out here against some of the trucks we have access to! Thanks for the sub, much appreciated and many more videos to come!

[@RayRayP2001]

@@KingdomAuto I love this truck, it is pretty great for me it is 4x2 though cause I am in Texas and don't plan on mudding it, but do haul stuff, Have video of the truck on my profile when i did the blackout badges from OEM blue to blackout edition oem badges which ford website says it don't fit my truck, but I ordered anyways and it in fact does. your 3.5 is just over half the engine and keeps up with a big ole 6.2 for a bit still amazes me to this day. That is why I go ford all the way.If you compared the 6.2 Ford vs. GM 6.2 the ford would win, just like the 2.7 ford to the GM 2.7 the ford would win. N/A vs N/A and turbo vs. turbo in that high elevation.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@RayRayP2001 Nice that's great to know! We're exctited to find a 2.7 and get it out to the track :)

[@anthonyhuntley4498]

It’s crazy, I’ve never seen this result, there’s something weird going on.

[@KingdomAuto]

TFL races at 5k feet above sea level. We’re right at sea level, big difference for NA engines. Also, there are many videos online of the newer (10 speed) 6.2’s showing low 14 second 1/4 mile times. That to say, trim levels, rear end ratios, options, etc can all play into the acceleration and 1/4 mile time of a truck. There are so many factors that could impact the outcome of the race. In this specific scenario the GM won but without a doubt, the Ford (with a different configuration, different rear end, etc) could very likely win. In our race, both trucks were literally brand new (past the break in of course) but it was about as even of a lineup as possible. So we certainly did everything we could to make the race as even as possible

[@anthonyhuntley4498]

@@KingdomAuto it’s weird though, I’ve seen these trucks race time and time again. I’ve never seen a Chevy win, I’ve seen it close but the ford usually wins especially top end.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@anthonyhuntley4498 yep like I said, could be a number of different factors - especially that we’re right at sea level. Where the NA engine has all of its power. We even raced the 6.2 against a new PowerBoost and it was only a hair behind that truck.

[@Vanjrl337]

I’m curious how a 5.0 would do.

[@KingdomAuto]

Us too. We’re trying to get our hands on one

[@Vanjrl337]

@@KingdomAuto heck yeah! Great vids, keep up the good races!

[@KingdomAuto]

@@Vanjrl337 thank you! Many more to come :) been busy with our full time jobs but we’re still chipping away at things

[@JustinDaniels]

No way is that GMC limited to under 100MPH!!! Wow. That is so stupid.

[@KingdomAuto]

Crazy eh? We think it’s because of the tires. The tires on that truck are more for “off road” type situations and not meant for top speed. Similar story to the Ram TRX, it’s got a really limited top speed as well. That said though, totally agreed, it’s dumb lol

[@beto46133]

Why you want to go more than 100mph...all cars needs to be only 100 mph max

[@KingdomAuto]

@@beto46133 If you’re paying a bunch of money for a vehicle with a big engine, you want that engine/vehicle to perform and do what it’s supposed to do :)

[@beto46133]

As truck driver I don't like to see cars going like crazy killing people o running from the police I thin 100 miles is enough if you're in public roads

[@JustinDaniels]

@@beto46133 Should one drive those speeds normally on public roads? No. However, for example, if someone is chasing you trying to kill you, and you have a powerful engine capable of going 160mph and their car only goes 110, you can get away. But then, imagine not being able to escape because of some stupid software limiter... I'm not saying that people usually need to go that fast, just that vehicles shouldn't have ridiculously low artificial limiters.

[@genewaller1002]

Unleash the beast on the 6.2 and remove the largest muffler ever installed on a truck. Then install a K&N air filter and let that engine breathe. That will add 30 more HP.

[@KingdomAuto]

Would certainly be interesting to see how both trucks responded to bolt ons for sure!

[@ChrisDIYerOklahoma]

I have a 2021 GMC Sierra AT4 (6.2L). I put a CAI intake, J-pipe exhaust, and programmer. I run 91 octane (non ethanol) + "Race Gas" fuel to bump the octane to 94+. I can vaporize the rear tires. I did a video.

[@vincentv646]

Your not supposed to break boost the newer f150s. They don't do as well.

[@KingdomAuto]

We tried both and found it was slightly faster when brake boosting (with our truck anyways) but we did try both

[@jetdr]

Hp is how fast you get to the wall, Tq is how far you push the wall. more Hp will always win the race, torque will tow more.

[@KingdomAuto]

Weight can really make a difference too, that’s why we were both surprised that the GM won. The F150 has a better power to weight ratio than the Chev because it’s lighter. Was a fun race to film though! That 6.2 sure does have a solid top end

[@Sebastianx115]

You should of race the gmc in sport they run a lot better like that

[@KingdomAuto]

The GM didn’t have sport mode. We put a note about that in at around 4:23. No idea why - possibly something to do with the chip shortage? But all it had was Normal and Off Road so we just left it in Normal. Still took the win despite that as well

[@Sebastianx115]

@@KingdomAuto Odd my 2023 has one left of the steering wheel under tachometer

[@KingdomAuto]

@@Sebastianx115 Yeah that sounds right - they're very likely supposed to come with a Sport mode. Even the F-150 in this video is a relatively basic FX-4 and it had one. So this Sierra being an AT4 should definitely have one. We're thinking it's either a software issue or chip shortage. Many of the 2022's were sold missing chips or software updates so that could possibly be it. We're not 100% sure though.

[@Alpine642]

Yeah my 2023 seirra has it to

[@KingdomAuto]

@@Alpine642 Yeah we’re pretty sure that the GM we had should have had sport mode. But after doing some searching online, there are other people that have mentioned the same thing about their AT4 not having it as well. Still not sure why but we’re not the only ones though

[@lewisstoneking3873]

Cmon ford boys give it up. I own a 2023 f150 lariat that i just traded my 2021 6.2 trail boss for. The trail boss is definately more snappy and pulls like a hell throygh midrange. I have pulled with both and the Ford wins hands down. I traded for the ford because i just bought a shid loader and need the 14k towing as opposed to the 9300.

[@KingdomAuto]

Good to know about the towing for sure. The 150 seems to do a great job pulling heavier loads (just based on experience) As for the race it really seems like it depends on trim level/rear end ratio/truck body/options that can determine the outcome. Altitude would also play a huge factor in things too. We’re right at sea level so both trucks have all of their available power. Up high the EcoBoost would be at a big advantage. In our case the GM was quicker but there is very likely a 3.5 with the right options that could compete with the specific Sierra that we have. Tough to say, they’re both very capable and quick

[@willardgentry6624]

Yes the GMC has pushrod engines which are normally snappier off the line. At the same time the Ford has DOHC engines with usually perform better under labor.

[@mcmuskie2563]

The big v8 should win in every situation..

[@KingdomAuto]

The GMC loses badly at higher altitudes as seen on TFL Truck’s channel. Forced induction does really well when higher above sea level where the air is thinner

[@ferminsanchez8830]

5.7 hemi vs 6.2

[@KingdomAuto]

Thanks for the suggestion! We actually raced a 5.7 Hemi against a 5.3 Sierra, the 5.7 wins quite easily but it’s pretty far off the time of the 6.2. Someone suggested trying to find a Ram Rebel 6.4 and get that up against the 6.2 Sierra, that could be interesting! Here’s the race with the Hemi Ram for reference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZuwmISqd7eoha8

[@thetrollwhoknows9928]

@@KingdomAuto try a ram RT if you can find one.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@thetrollwhoknows9928 What engine does the RT come with? Isn’t it the 5.7 V8, or is it something else? If it’s the 5.7 we raced that one already in the video below :) m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZuwmISqd7eoha8

[@thetrollwhoknows9928]

@@KingdomAuto the r/t is a regular cab two-wheel drive configuration with a 5.7 + 392 rear. It also has a sport oriented calibration. Stock 5.4 seconds to 60. Compared to a big rams 7 or more seconds seconds to 60. It's not the same truck it's smoke them.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@thetrollwhoknows9928 Oh ok nice. Yeah if we can find one, for sure we’ll get it out to the track. Thanks for your suggestion :)

[@jamesfeltner63]

The gmc doesn’t have sport mode because it’s a work truck

[@KingdomAuto]

It’s something to do with the off road package and/or tires that come from the factory. If you take a look around online there are quite a few AT4’s that have sport mode. Just happened that ours did not

[@zachkappes6199]

Door jambs give gvwr, not curb.

[@KingdomAuto]

GVWR - Payload my friend. That gives you curb

[@alejandrorosas4953]

Y’all should have a 5.0 race that 6.2 . The 6.2 will Fs get destroyed

[@KingdomAuto]

Yeah we are looking for a newer 5.0 to race the Sierra. It’ll likely be a very close race, doubt anything will get “destroyed” considering how quick the 6.2 is. It’s only slightly slower than a PowerBoost in the 1/4 mile so it would be very interesting to see that race lined up. When we get our hands on a 5.0 it’ll happen for sure. Here’s the race we did between a 6.2 and PowerBoost (make sure you check the 1/4 mile times at the end, the Ford was faster but we had difficulty launching the trucks at the same time) kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY

[@kelman3331]

Lol no it won't 🤣

[@terrygolden-sb8zw]

The gear ratio. Gm is higher. Ford is a lower geared.

[@KingdomAuto]

We list the differential ratios in the intro of the video. GM Sierra’s and F150’s don’t come with the same rear end’s so it’s basically impossible to match the trucks up 100% We also ran the 6.2 Sierra against a PowerBoost with a 3.73 back end and the Ford just won by a hair Bottom line, both trucks are seriously quick Here’s that video of the PowerBoost Vs. 6.2 Sierra: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY

[@bobbyjarreau5735]

Ok so look the 6.2l is gm biggest and baddest. However the 3.5 is not the biggest and baddest ford has the 3.5 power boost is now let’s make a big dog vs big dog video with them 2. The regular 3.5 eco boost is more on the lvl of the 5.3.

[@KingdomAuto]

In terms of price/towing capacity, etc. the 3.5 and 6.2 are on a pretty level playing field. The 5.3 and 2.7 EcoBoost are quite close. 6.2 and 3.5 are direct competitors But yes, you’re correct in the sense that the 6.2 is the most powerful truck from GM We actually did race a PowerBoost against the 6.2 Sierra. PowerBoost JUST barely won. You can see it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY

[@MrRAMPIT]

Es curioso, en carreras callejeras siempre gana f150

[@KingdomAuto]

Street racing typically isn’t a full quarter mile race. Most times just 0-60mph or less. The F150 was faster from 0-60mph (0-100km/h) but the GM came back and won in the 1/4 mile. Also, older Sierra’s do not have a 10 speed transmission. New ones do, and this makes them quite a bit faster.

[@wyattliskey78]

doesnt beat the 22’ 5.0

[@KingdomAuto]

We can’t say. Some have said the 6.2 wins, some say the 5.0 wins. We haven’t found a new 5.0 yet but as soon as we get our hands on one, we’re getting both of those trucks out to the track to find out

[@Blossomaubss]

Ford not even in sport mode lol

[@KingdomAuto]

Smh… watch the video please. GM didn’t have sport so we ran them both in Normal first, then tried the Ford in Sport to compare

[@thejuice2022]

How ?? I smoke gmc and Chevy all day with my f150

[@KingdomAuto]

There’s lots of factors that can influence truck races. Trim level, payload, rear end ratios, altitude, etc. Also, the F150 was faster from 0-60 so if you’re only racing from a set of lights or just a quick pull, you’d get them. But in the full 1/4 mile the GM came back and took the win (in this case)

[@fozzybear9114]

Either ecoboost is faster

[@KingdomAuto]

Not sure what you mean. The Ford we used in this video is a 3.5 EcoBoost

[@bigadielldne7234]

V6 are quicker low end but after 100 that ecoboost aint shit compared to the 6.2

[@Dloud99]

Ya simple tune in that 150 be blowing that 6.2 back to Jurassic park.

[@KingdomAuto]

True. But stock for stock the GM took it in our case. We were both surprised actually

[@ball-se6gu]

Same can be said for the 6.2. Both trucks can gain about 55-60hp with a higher octane tune and more timing advance down low. 3.5s are decent, but the 6.2 is a tried and true monster. Throw a turbo on it and see 800hp without changing anything but the injectors.

[@bigadielldne7234]

Throw 2 turbos and a tune at the 6.2 like the 3.5 has and see what happens 😅😂

[@alejozepeda416]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Next 6.2 vs 5.0 f150.

[@KingdomAuto]

We’re trying to find a new 5.0 but if we can then we’ll definitely race them :)

[@KingdomAuto]

@@843OutdoorsSC Apparently the new Coyote runs pretty close to the 6.2’s 1/4 mile time (apparently). We haven’t ever had a 5.0 out to our track yet so we can’t confirm. But either way, we’re trying to find one and will race it against anything we have :)

[@KingdomAuto]

@@843OutdoorsSC Nice - yeah it's going to be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully we can find a new 5.0 this spring/summer :)

[@mikeraftis6332]

Brake torque 3.5 and bye bye

[@KingdomAuto]

You must not have watched the video my friend. We brake torqued on literally every launch, at various rpm’s to ensure we spooled the turbos as much as possible.

[@carltonp420]

The Ford always sounding like a Honda makes me wanna go shower. 😢

[@KingdomAuto]

Haha I’ve heard you can make them sound a bit better with some exhaust work right??

[@ramnale]

And that's with Ford having sport mode plus bigger gearing. Also gm had 250 pounds more? That's like having a passenger and still beating it. I wonder how my Tacoma would do

[@KingdomAuto]

What Tacoma do you have? We raced one against a Ford Ranger, they’re pretty quick trucks! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2GXeWBohNurosU

[@ramnale]

@@KingdomAuto sorry not Tacoma 😁, it’s tundra v6 turbo.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@ramnale oh gotcha! Yeah we really want to find a new Tundra to get out there against a few of these trucks. Would be really interesting to see how it does :)

[@toxictoons1374]

Never believe what you see, I just raced a 6.2 with my 2022 f150 3.5 eco and results were very different . And both were on sport mode.

[@KingdomAuto]

Comments like this are ridiculous, We’re not out to prove anything, or be biased in any way. In our case, the results you see are what truly took place. Trucks are interesting. And depending on options, trim level, rear end ratios, etc, these can all change how a truck performs. Altitude and age are big too, considering the Ford has boost and performs much better at higher altitudes. And the Sierra didn’t start coming with a 10 speed transmission until very recently (which made the truck far quicker). Gotta consider all of these things. There’s no doubt that changing some of the factors listed above could effect the results of the race, but in our specific scenario, with the trucks we had and at sea level, the GM won.

[@norbertoregalado8000]

The gmc is the most powerful😅😅😅😂

[@KingdomAuto]

In our case, yep; the Sierra won. There are lots of factors that can impact truck races, like elevation, differential ratio, trim/options, etc. but on our track at sea level, we found that the GMC was the faster truck. The only truck we have seen that takes the 6.2 Sierra in the 1/4 mile is Ford’s PowerBoost. Video for reference below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY But we also haven’t tested a high output EcoBoost F150 yet, or Raptor, TRX, etc. there’s a handful that we’re trying to find to get them out to our track :)

[@norbertoregalado8000]

@@KingdomAuto I have a question. My 2020 gmc sierra at4 at 98 miles shows me, speed limited to 98 mph. 98 miles is your top speed???

[@KingdomAuto]

@@norbertoregalado8000 Yep, the Sierra we used in this video was also limited to the same speed, you can actually see it happen at the end of the rolling race we did, pretty crazy! Apparently it has to do with the tires that come on your truck. If they’re a more aggressive tire, GMC will limit the truck to 98MPH from the factory. That’s what we have read anyways, but that might not be the actual reason

[@norbertoregalado8000]

@@KingdomAuto Oky. 🙏🏽 thanks.

[@MichaelDuran]

5.0 would win on top end

[@KingdomAuto]

Hard to say, but we are definitely on the hunt for a new 5.0 to get out there against these two trucks!

[@MichaelDuran]

@@KingdomAuto I'll keep an eye out!

[@KingdomAuto]

@@MichaelDuran Appreciate it! We're bound to find one at some point

[@bigadielldne7234]

A 4thgen 6.2 escalade has better top speed then a 5.0 f150😂

[@slicksilver9441]

Had a 2015 5.3 and i raced 3 different 3.5 eco boosts in 2018 .....i beat all 3. The 5.3 was tuned and thats it

[@KingdomAuto]

That’s very interesting. From our experience, we haven’t ever seen a 5.3 beat a 3.5 F150 in the 1/4 mile. That tune must have been pretty substantial!

[@slicksilver9441]

@KingdomAuto either that or the drivers weren't up to par. I've told people this and they all agreed that I should've lost..

[@KingdomAuto]

@@slicksilver9441 or you’re just in the wrong profession eh? Sounds like you should be racing in the next Daytona 500 haha. It is pretty wild how different each truck can be though. When factoring in trim level, overall weight, rear end ratios, etc. It can all change acceleration and 1/4 mile time for sure.

[@slicksilver9441]

@KingdomAuto very true, brother and i only wish I could be making the left turns every Sunday. (Well , left and right on the road courses). The 2015 I had was what they called a double cab, still 4 door but not as much truck as the full 4 doors. The truck ran great , a guy named Johnathan Verret from Lake charles, Louisiana tuned it for me and he is a very, very very good mechanic.

[@KingdomAuto]

@@slicksilver9441 it would be a pretty cool career, no doubt! Sounds like your tuner/mechanic really knew what he was doing! Did you have any other mods to the truck? Intake/exhaust, etc?

[@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS]

Ford fanboys start 😢 😭 🤣

[@KingdomAuto]

Haha - it was definitely a surprise for both of us that the GM took the W. They’re just fast trucks, no way around it!

[@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS]

@@KingdomAuto Need a TRX VS Raptor R Showdown

[@KingdomAuto]

@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS That would be fantastic! We’d need to find the vehicles somehow because we rely mainly on friends and family at the moment, to make our races happen. But if we were ever able to get our hands on them we’d do it for sure!

[@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS]

@Kingdom Auto enjoy the channel and Merry Christmas 🤶 🎄

[@KingdomAuto]

@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS Merry Christmas to you as well - just subbed to your channel by the way, keep up the good work!

[@Vuhjayjay68]

I know for a fact like I said before the 6.2 is the faster truck because I own one

[@KingdomAuto]

Yep the only truck we have beat it with is the PowerBoost, and that was by a very tight margin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY Those 6.2’s are fast trucks!

[@freddyg41208]

I've beat a new 6.2 in my 22 3.5 by a little more than a truck.

[@Vuhjayjay68]

@@freddyg41208 some people don’t know how to drive you got lucky

[@freddyg41208]

@Vuhjayjay68 lol yeah, automatic can be tricky

[@Vuhjayjay68]

@@freddyg41208 you know nothing about torque management do you 😂😂😂shows your experience

[@workct4102]

The GM is not the faster truck....less torque, heavier, and geared like a car

[@KingdomAuto]

We did everything possible to see if the outcome of the race changed, but no matter what we tried, the Sierra came out on top. We tried brake torquing at various RPM’s, 2WD, 4WD, traction control on/off, switching drivers, rolling race, etc. You can say the GM is slower all you want but when we lined them up, it was faster. That said, due to all of the different options that are available with trucks these days, be it rear end ratio, trim level, gearing, etc. it’s very possible that changing these factors could impact which truck wins. All we know is that when we raced these two specific trucks, the Sierra we had beat the F150. The F150 wins from 0-60mph but then the GM takes the 1/4 mile after that

[@workct4102]

@@KingdomAuto you have two unicorns. Every other YT video shows the opposite...I dont have a 6.2, but I had a 4.8 and currently have a 6.0, and the smaller Fords make the larger GM engines look foolish

[@KingdomAuto]

@workct4102 well you’ve gotta say we have 4 unicorns then… because we also raced a PowerBoost against a 2021 6.2 AT4 and the AT4 put down the same numbers. PowerBoost just barely edged out the Sierra while having 3.73 gearing. Just take into consideration when watching videos like the ones TFL truck posts, that they’re way up in the Rockies, likely over 5000 feet above sea level. That will severely diminish the performance of the 6.2 being that it’s naturally aspirated. There are a handful of videos showing the 6.2 AT4/Trailboss laying down similar numbers in the 1/4 mile to what we got with ours as well. It’s got nothing to do with “unicorns” and everything to do with gearing, altitude and options that are on the trucks. There’s no doubt that a new 3.5 F150 can take a 6.2 depending on those factors listed above. But you also have to agree that the 6.2 has the ability to take the F150 in a race as well. There’s simply no denying that. Bottom line, there are a ton of variables at play when lining trucks up to race. In our case, the Sierra was easily the faster truck. I’m sure in a different scenario, with trucks that came with different options, etc, the Ford could also pull out a win. But you can’t just claim that the Ford is always the faster truck when that simply just isn’t true. Here’s the video of the AT4 Vs the PowerBoost for reference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnPbm5ing8yDrZY

[@workct4102]

@@KingdomAuto well...when I see the 5.0 Coyote keeping up with the 6.2...and know that the 3.5 EB edges out the Coyote so...🤷‍♂️

[@KingdomAuto]

@@workct4102 as I’ve said several times now, there are many factors that can influence and change how fast a truck can be. You can go buy 5 different 3.5 F150’s and depending on options, rear ends, towing packages, trim levels, etc, they could all lay down different times in the 1/4 mile. And that’s before factoring in the altitude of the race. If you race them thousands of feet above sea level like TFL does, the forced induction vehicles are going to destroy the naturally aspirated vehicles. We race right at sea level so that also plays into things. Bottom line, both trucks are very fast. But there are many factors that can change their 1/4 mile time. For us, both times we have raced a 3.5 EcoBoost against a new 6.2 Sierra, the GM came out on top. We’re both Ford people too, both of us would take the F150 over the Sierra. We wanted the Ford to win but we’re also unbiased when we race, and we line up these vehicles to have a good time, and see which one is truly faster. In this specific race, the GM is the faster truck

[@robertbrook8552]

ford still carrying that Ram front end look.

[@KingdomAuto]

Think so? I think they all have a pretty distinct look

[@flaco1058]

I have both 3.5 raptor and 6.2 AT4 and the 6.2 will win every time… especially sea level

[@KingdomAuto]

Interesting. We haven’t ever tested a Raptor. But yes we did find that the 6.2 won against a standard 3.5. When at altitude the 3.5 would have a huge advantage with forced induction, we’re thinking that this is why TFL Truck shows a different result. Either way both are quick and capable trucks!

[@buckaroo1278]

Typical . it takes 2x the motor to beat a tiny little ford...

[@KingdomAuto]

You do understand how forced induction works…. Right?

[@efrainlopez1260]

IVE DESTROYED every stupid Chevy or GMC 6.2 and even worse the 5.3 slow BOWTIE bye bye

[@KingdomAuto]

🤣🤣 good for you, do you want a cookie?