Moza R3 vs Logitech G923 Review

[@tver]

Moza should come out with with an off white variant (again), called the Moza Rella.

[@randomcallsign]

Massively deserving of a pin. Lmao.

[@maximous-prime]

It took me a google search to get it

[@tver]

@@randomcallsign Admittedly, I like a cheesy joke here and there. ;)

[@randombanter7553]

​@@tver Got a third to make this a nice 3 for 3

[@TheMash84]

As an Italian I cannot appreciate enough this one. Well thought 😂❤

[@mtbboy1993]

Moza is even widely/easily available, atleast in Norway, most of the electronics online retailers have it. Good to see.

[@VinVanish]

One thing I was happy to see, main reason why I went with Moza and with the FFB Beta firmware has made my R5 feel so much more alive, we miss a lot of good products in Norway since we're not part of the EU.

[@mtbboy1993]

@@VinVanish any issues with compability with games? One guy on reddit had it, but did not mention which games.

[@boblikepie]

just wish Moza would get PlayStation support, it'd make me think about swapping over then

[@VinVanish]

@@mtbboy1993 Havent had any issues with all the racing games I've tried pure sim, simcades etc.

[@VinVanish]

@@boblikepie I think it's Playstation taking forever to give them the licensing to do that, hopefully soon mate!

[@Jonah-Hosein]

Moza no question, better products, wider upgrade path.

[@Gadgets_Repair_And_Simulators]

But software though, I've had so many software problems with Moza.

[@unstalling216]

@@Gadgets_Repair_And_Simulators honestly the benefits of a DD wheel outweigh any software problems

[@Gadgets_Repair_And_Simulators]

@@unstalling216 well when you're getting frustrated over it, and regretting your purchase, most people tend to disagree with that statement.

[@unstalling216]

@@Gadgets_Repair_And_Simulators A logitech g923 simply does not compare to a DD wheel, if you are having trouble with moza and wish to switch ecosystems I would not suggest going for logitech.

[@Gadgets_Repair_And_Simulators]

@@unstalling216 I don't think you understand the feeling of not wanting to even touch your hobby due to immense frustration over your supposedly superior hardware being ruined by the software which renders it unusable at times. So, for people who actually want to enjoy themselves when they play games/simulators, yes, it does compare.

[@enzoman444]

It’s nice to see a mid range manufacturer seemingly serious about sim racing and not just dabbling. Moza stuff looks good.

[@Targeting-Must-End]

Main issues still remains: GLOBAL Distribution, Availability and Stock. Logitech G923/G920 is almost everywhere in the world for a reasonable PRICE. In South Africa the Moza R3 is only found at some small enthusiasts shops

[@vandrayketv1316]

The Moza is to now

[@ndoda2073]

Exe bruh do you know how much the delivery costs of you buy the wheel directly from Moza cause takealot is too expensive

[@Targeting-Must-End]

@@ndoda2073 I do not know how long TakeaLot would take. Have only ordered small items via them and they do deliver as promised. i,e Very Quickly. And I was NOT in a big city. I think they have the R5 now for a little cheaper. I would definitely think of the R5 instead of R3. But for R10 000 more you can get a much better set up that is future proof.

[@blargd]

I mean here in the UK it's available from a ton of big name stores, I think as Moza are still pretty new in the game compared to a company like Logitech they're still gearing up their infrastructure and the like, I'd give it a little while and I reckon it will be as readily available in other countries for example South Africa like you mention

[@Yusssef10]

@@blargdyou’re absolutely right, i think that if we gave moza the experience that logitech had in this sector to moza they would have done a lot better

[@citedcanvas85]

Coming from a g920 previously i upgraded to moza r3 since im on xbox. Its soooo much better and bloody addictive. I been playing every weekend since getting it in june. Best fun i had in years very new to dd wheels. Absolutely enjoying it

[@gurkenmarmelade3137]

Is it much stronger than the logitech

[@flup22]

Games support is fine? Forza 5, Motorsport, Dirt rally 2, WRC 10, F1, etc works ok? I want to upgrade from G923

[@Dominik27543]

@@flup22 If your on pc then i think its basically any game that supports a wheel. Moza has a list of supported games on their site but xbox support is all you gotta really worry about

[@flup22]

@@Dominik27543 Im on Xbox now. PC maybe sometime..

[@sorryyouloseme4757]

​@@flup22hows g923?

[@sprocket5526]

If only moza was PS ready, then it would be a no brainer for me.

[@supercededman]

Yup, until that moment Logitech will remain at top of, or near, the top of the heap for entry level wheels. It may be inferior in many ways, but its console compatibility is important. I have two such wheels in my garage. I've moved on to DDs, but both (Fanatec DD Pro and Logitech G Pro) are console compatible. I play both console and PC, just love the flexibility, thankyou.

[@SirZechs77]

Managed to snag an R5 bundle on a sale for the same price as the R3 bundle, so happy about that

[@2409dlewis]

gt7 is my racing sim of choice so unfortunately moza is still not a choice

[@anon_snake_]

Moza really just needs the popularity and availability that the Logitech wheels have at this point. It's objectively better as long as you don't need Playstation compatibility.

[@sprocket5526]

And thats why logitech don't care. They own the entry lvl marked for playstation.

[@danceoffAsh]

They are still pretty new to the market but are doing very good over the years. Just need lock in console support and fanatec would more or less be done for.

[@jomac_ph]

The R3 bundle is about 380USD here in the Philippines with free shipping. G923 is 17USD cheaper, i guess go with R3?

[@Lordperceval1616]

Yes definitely

[@UNLISTEDWEB]

Dont forget to add $45 for Moza clutch Pedal... as g920 comes with it

[@KosNeh]

Hello boss, is the extra 11k for the moza r5 worth it or should i just buy the r3 and use the extra 11k for the shifter and clutch??

[@Lordperceval1616]

@@KosNeh Depends on what games you’re gonna play

[@KosNeh]

@ Mainly assetto corsa (highway racing and drifting). I don't think I'll get into competitive sim racing. I saw that it's better to have more torque for drifting. Also, more headroom in terms of torque to feel more detail since you get less detail if the motor is running at full power. The question is, is the extra price worth it??

[@regibson23]

If you want to feel like you're driving a car stay away from the Logitech.

[@Allu681]

it's not even a question - Moza is the way to go. Logitech has 20 year old tech behind that plastic shit :D

[@EddySpaghetty]

I only have an Xbox so I bought the Moza R9 with the esx wheel and made my own right hand drive cockpit lol

[@Jhood3b]

Just got an r3 for $310 usd shipped. Can’t wait. Been using a thrustmaster t150 the whole time

[@mzackdeux]

I do believe that DD is really the way. The price has gone low enough that getting it will justify the price. The smooth feeling is just unreal!

[@piworower]

g923 or t300 used to see if you like the hobby, then sell it for the price you bought it for and upgrade if you want. the t300 and g923 last pretty well.

[@gabrielmaria2762]

G923 here. Started sim racing just a few months ago, didn't even know if I'm gonna like it or not. So for people who are new to sim racing it's a great value proposition. Spend 300€, see if you like driving sims and if not, sell the thing, not loosing more than 100€ in the process. You will eventually want to upgrade to something better, if not for torque, at least to eliminate noise and get a smoother feel. Still, during this time you learn a lot of techniques that will apply with any wheel you end up putting on your sim. So if it's your first wheel, go with the Logitech and have fun. There is a lot of driving to be done before you are above what that wheel has to offer.

[@digitalsublime]

Good to know, where I live you can buy 923 with shifter for 200dls used, vs the 650dls for same setup on Moza. It's tough to justify 3x if you don't know if you are going to really get into it.

[@ajrichar0]

G29 for me because I need PlayStation comparability, and because im a casual gamer so price is also a factor. I'm not going to start spending larger amounts when I don't have a permanent set up and I'm not hunting tenths of a second. However, if PlayStation compatibility and price were no constraints, no question I'd go with Moza.

[@digitalsublime]

Here in south America you can get a used Logitech 923 with shifter for around 200dls, and Moza r3 bundle with clutch from AliExpress is around 460dls and to add the shifter is 160dls more (the shifter is really expensive), and you can't find used. So, all in all L923 is a third of the price. 🤔 It becomes a more drastic difference...

[@robertcarr4172]

Not the first time these 2 are up against each other. It should be t300 vs r3. Thats the proper show down.

[@robertcarr4172]

Logitech is 2.2nm and t300 is 3.8nm

[@stevenlarson3316]

Logitech shouldn't be considered here. The G923 is too expensive to compete as a budget wheel and the construction is too cheap to considered mid range. It's a plastic toy for kids. There was a time when it was the only good option for a budget wheel, but that time has long since past. Spring for a slightly more expensive direct drive wheel if you plan to use it regularly. The competition is between Fanatec and Moza. If you're on PC the Fanatec CSL DD bundle is 400 dollars, gives you 5 nm torque, upgradable with a 50 dollar power supply off amazon to 8 nm. But if you're on a console it's less straight forward. I'd wait to see what Thrustmaster comes out with in a few weeks. They have announced a pedal set for under 100 dollars and are supposed to be announcing a budget direct drive wheel with console compatibility. I expect it to be the go to for console gamers.

[@slaphead90]

Both Thrustmaster and Logitech failed to keep their eye on the ball with regards to sim racing peripherals. This is especially true of Thrustmaster as their core business is essentially gaming peripherals for sims. Logitech I can understand as they could drop their wheel range and it would amount to little more than a rounding error on their balance sheet. However on the other hand Thrustmaster really did drop the ball.

[@collinclary5762]

I remember how much of a strangle hold thrustmaster had on the market like 6-8 years ago and they must have gotten complacent because they are WAY late to the DD party and their latest wheel is a cheap hunks of garbage at best

[@BjornFSE]

nice comparison

[@jean-francoisrenaud8389]

Not compatible with PS5 , adapter is a no go, see too much ppl losing ffb with it, been waiting already for Thrustmaster PS5 DD, almost there 😅.

[@higher_rpm]

Debating on if I should get the r3 or r5 I currently have a g29

[@sprocket5526]

R5 if you can afford the extra few bucks. If you don't, save up for another month.

[@collinclary5762]

I made the same jump, i would honestly go with the R9 if you can afford it, i don’t think the R5 is a large enough jump

[@higher_rpm]

@@collinclary5762 really?

[@nope3152]

Does the Moza rev limiter LED lights work on Xbox???

[@TVCHLORD]

nobody should be buying logitechs loud ass steering wheels when the moza r3 exists for $300

[@SewerShark]

Moza still needs a wider range of XBox compatible rims.

[@Andritis]

How are DD customizable set wo clutch 'very similar package' to arcade type fixed pedal hybrid belt/gear set?! :D dude.

[@randomcallsign]

because both come as a package with pedals, wheel and wheelbase. also, that arcade racer wheel, was basically the standard for everyone in simracing 10 years ago. just because products improve, doesnt automatically make a very good entry level wheel for simracing "arcade".

[@BWB_Cubing]

the moza is way more expensive though

[@unkalcxb]

how about pxn v99 bundle in $190 with wheel, base, 3 pedalset and h pattern shifter, also pxn announced on their discord that they are open to send v99 and/or v9 gen2 for reviews (v9 gen2 is waste of money)

[@randomcallsign]

direct drive a like and a sub to the channel

[@champsammy13]

I hate how small my wheel is for my G923

[@andreasotto1977]

Everytime somebody posts a new Logitech gear driven wheel on r/simracing I think "… why did you buy that?"

[@supercededman]

Maybe they race on console.

[@MissCagoita]

Moza has really being trying to up the game and offering better and better products. The others really need to wake up and continue to invest on R&D

[@meygo7599]

This is a comparison where logitech G923 can win in some aspects. It's not a landslide choice like with the T300rs Gt. Moza takes this totally if we're talking about performance and since it's a direct drive its pretty much a no brainer. However one very big DEAL BREAKER for this R3 is the compatibility seriously? Xbox? I guess we all know how shitty forza motorsport became there's no competition with GT7 at this point so you need that playstation compatibility to play it which it doesn't a full pledged PC player is a whole different story but we're talking general audience and as it stands people just prefer playing GT7 all around then there's the reliablity the G920/29/923 were known to be very reliable due to being basic gear driven wheelbases. This is if we're talking about the general use and compatibility but for performance I'm taking the R3 no matter.

[@radifarah5839]

I feel like until Moza makes a ps5 compatible wheel, Logitech is still gonna be a reliable option

[@Maartwo]

Logitech will still be king because, even though it's way overpriced in LATAM and other third world regions, at least their products are easily available. We are an afterthought for these companies and our import fees and laws suck.

[@GTdriver81]

You aren't an afterthought from these companies. They ship almost any country if you buy off their website like any other country. And if a local distributor puts their hand up to sell locally they would supply them. You aren't being left out intentionally by them, sure import duties will be a thing though.

[@matheusilvas]

@@GTdriver81 Doesnt ship to Brazil and we are not a small country. Only chile and equator the 2 coutries from SA they ship to.

[@GTdriver81]

@@matheusilvas Google "moza resellers" it will show you all their local distributors. Kings Simuladores is the moza distributor for Brazil.

[@GTdriver81]

@@matheusilvas moza has a distributor in Brazil called kings simuladores, as shown on their website.

[@GTdriver81]

@@matheusilvas the list of moza resellers shows many latam distributors and a brazil one is listed too.

[@UNLISTEDWEB]

How is it similar???MOZA $150 more and requires additional $45 for CLUTCH pedal. MOZA is NOT PLAY STATION Compatible.

[@Howlingbrown]

Defo switching. The rattle in chat is too much. Great wheel otherwise

[@FinnDarius]

As good as the G29/G920/G923 was, it really is starting to show its age now that direct drive is creeping towards its price point. Noisy gear driven ffb and non-changeable wheels should be a thing of the past

[@umi3017]

Can't clamp on my table with keyboard drawer under it, so still with my trusty G27

[@williamduarte3998]

has logitec even been there 🤦‍♂️they have always been the worst brand out of all 💯facts

[@Ryzen-s6y]

g923 is dog shit, the sounds are really bad