Toyota 3SGE 3SGTE - What makes it GREAT? ICONIC ENGINES #5

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[@epicprojectschris7050]

They got ban with the celica for having an over sized turbo ......that’s why Toyota didn’t make a full works rally car again till the yarris

[@negativeindustrial]

epic projects chris The turbo was not oversized, they came back with a Corolla a year later and raced for three more seasons until 1999.

[@PerryPetrozelli]

Would you consider doing a video on the North American 1.4 Multiair which is used in the Fiat 500 and 124 Abarths, as well as the Jeep Renegade?

[@danmurad8080]

M156, first AMG engine that wasn't based on a mercedes block. I have it in my S63 naturally aspirated and I love it!! . I believe the M159 version of this block used in the SLSv is still the most powerful V8 engine in a production car.

[@sakenka8095]

Can you please give us you opinion about the 3t-gte engine?

[@rhubarbpie2027]

I *finally* got my Altezza RS200 with the Beams 3SGE and I cannot say enough how enamored I am with the engine in the car. It pulls hard to its 8k redline, without running out of breath. Yamaha and Toyota are a match made in engineering heaven.

[@mrt2this607]

You lucky F'er. How much $$'s did you wind up forking out for that engine? I'd love to get that setup for my SW20 but pretty sure I wouldn't be able to afford it right now.

[@rhubarbpie2027]

@@mrt2this607 I bought it from a kid here in Okinawa for $9.5k, it had 72k KMs and bone stock. The Red Top 3SGE is a good engine for the SW20, as it was designed for the FWD transaxle or mid-ship layout. They usually cost less than the blacktops as well

[@Ozarkprepper643]

That's nice to hear. My 75 Cilica can no longer be rebuilt. Parts for the 20R blocks are now non-existent. Found a 3s GE beams Blacktop with tranny from JDM $1700. I'm here because I didn't know what it was. Now I know, it will soon be mine.

[@rhubarbpie2027]

@@Ozarkprepper643 you would likely have to search the world over in Japan to find someone with a stash of OEM parts for the stock engine. I think the 3SGE will work well :)

[@AltezzaNikku]

Im currently working on my altezza and you can reakly tell the engine is made for motorsport!

[@ericvermeulen9853]

Resently took delivery of my GR Yaris rally, this little car is just amazing in everything it does, TOYOTA motorsport spirit is back

[@kz400-]

When a German need to speak English to gospel about a Japanese engine you better take it seriously

[@lepmuhangpa]

Break down cultural boundaries, talk about engines!

[@dragoon--slayer]

The Japanese and Germans are cooperating again

[@ts-vu3dd]

SwapnilMondalOfficial bwahahahaha stfu 😂

[@JOutterbridge]

@@dragoon--slayer Maybe they will remake Apricot raceway too lol

[@WarriorsPhoto]

@@lepmuhangpa Amen to that! Preach it brother!

[@masterchief4437]

this was so good thanks for making the video. but there is a few facts missing, 1 the race cars shown don't use a "3sgte" its the 503E which the 3sgte is based on (503e existed before it), 2 the biggest missed fact of toda racing built 3sge (gen 1) for japans formula 3 and were fantastic making insane na power for the time (1980's) 3 the gen 2/3 3sgte blocking cracking is also around the water pump and between cylinders 2 and 3. this was due to casting movements and affects random blocks some will crack with 300hp some not til 1000+hp just depends on the block. 4 within the mr2 community they is now many reliable, solid builds using the stock gen 4 3sgte making 400whp with no troubles at all but they are some thin connecting rods. 5 the main down fall of the 3s and 5sfe is oiling, specifically the oil pump. it is a little undersized and is prone to damage from contamination, less oil pumped, no oil pressure, spun bearings. but this is fix with a 98+ camry oil pump or gen 4/5 3sgte one

[@willgreer4321]

Yep be lost me a bit after mixing up the 503e. Dont try and make 800 hp on the stock block!!!. I have a gen 3 motor in my 185 and all though people do upgrade the oil pumps on high hp builds I wouldnt call it the main failure, I very rarely hear of oil pump issues. Cracked blocks at 400hp + yes definitely, not so much pumps. Much of oil starvation pre gen 3 has been attributed to poor sump baffling.

[@PatrickRich]

came here to mention the 503E. Nice.

[@danielnelson4881]

I'm not arguing or anything so don't jump down my throat, what's the second fact he's missing? That Toda racing used 3sge's for formula 3? Is that really an important missing fact? Does he need to mention everywhere this engine was ever used? I'm sure you'll be able to convince me I'm just asking.

[@LC-qp7pr]

The late gen 3 blocks were revised (97 or 98+), had a reinforced waterpump area, and Toyota used better castings. These are equivalent in strength to the gen 4 blocks.

[@jmccarsnmore1025]

www.dailysportscar.com/2017/10/27/the-legend-of-the-castrol-toms-supra.html There are the facts!! The Castrol TOM’s Yoyota Supra GT, with a 3SGTE swap!!

[@beaches2mountains230]

More people should give this engine some serious love here in the states. This engine (fitted in a MR2) is what turned me from a v8's ONLY mindset to a true car enthusiast!!! In stock form it was EXTREMELY entertaining! Respect and thank you for bringing info to the people!

[@Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname]

I have one sitting in my garage right now

[@glas5eye]

@@KZbinforcedmetochangemyname meee too :D m1.5 ftw

[@Spiritual_DriverAE101]

Agreed! These engines are taken for granted here in the states. I get Honda are great engines as well but it’s all too common for me even when I was a teenager. Only owned 1 Honda Civic. Everyone in my high school had one back in 2004. I stuck to Toyota and doing unique things.

[@chrisholyer1874]

I like the 3sgte for its reliable power output and small size giving it the option to fit in many chassis and also gives weight advantages like when they swapped the supra with it. The 3sge is also very nice of an engine and has lots of potential even in the heavy toyota altezza it still performs well. I think an engine you should cover next is the barra 4.0l I6 a mix of US and Australian goodies

[@philippeter198]

I like it in old model rav4

[@timsexton]

3S-GTE is a damn good engine. I had 2 (1990) ST185s. Bore & stroke aside, I like that it has brass oil jets which shoot oil vertically underneath the piston crowns for increased cooling.

[@joelyjowell3]

People keep sleeping on 3sgte . This my favorite 4cylinder engine . It’s like a 2jz but 2 cylinders less . They also share same sensors and the design is almost the same

[@joshvega4906]

Problems is not like the 2jz. They have block casting issues. They like crack between cylinders 2 and 3. They are good for 300-400 whp but you start pushing them to over 500 whp plus they will crack the cylinder wall. That’s why they use 5sfe block on big builds.

[@bunkaaa8726]

I own both a 1jzGTE and a 3sGE, so often when working on both I forget I'm working on different engines

[@negativeindustrial]

josh vega As usual, that’s a rumor that is greatly exaggerated. There were a few early third gens that did that. You almost never actually see that. 800whp is not uncommon.

[@alchemyalchemist111]

Yep! Same Bore and Stroke too!

[@noir-kx8ku]

People sleep on the 2rz truck engine as well, whew.

[@vylehabbats]

I love the 3SGTE in my MR2 Turbo. I've had it for over 30 years and it's been very reliable, however it's so hard to find OEM parts now. It's not as quick as modern sports cars, but who cares, the little Toyota is fun, reliable, and makes great sounds. I really enjoy driving it. And thanks for the informative video, I learned a lot.

[@azweyramran4903]

How about 3sgte 5th gen on Toyota caldina gt4 ? Is it more powerful than the last gen 3sgte ?

[@twrcrew8852]

if for whatever reason you started to care, your engine is the first and last look you need to make. tear it apart and make double the stock power reliably and continue slaying newer bulkier cars with the same or more power and hurt tik toker's brocoli haired feelings.

[@Larryloo1980]

I have a Gen3 Mr2 Turbo with a bit tuning and it make now a bit over 300hp and even today it is a fast car, 100-200km/h in about 11 sec and 0-100 km/h in under 5 sec.

[@supers0nic77]

I have 5sfe. Not sure if i should 5sgte, k24, or 2gr it haha

[@faithfullegacy34]

I want a car with this engine, but I am very concerned about finding parts if anything breaks. Are there a decent amount of options out there or is it super difficult?

[@jecsrd]

I own 3s since 10 years, and this one of the most complete info videos about 3S engines. my respect and greetings from Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo!

[@doobiedodgy]

I've got the 1990 celica gt4 imported from japan to here in australia. Just done a total rebuild with strengthened internals, now saving again to buy supporting parts. ( pretty much everything) The goal is about 400-450 hp. Already upgraded the brakes, suspention is next.

[@burningknuckle26]

sick. how is it now

[@armink9686]

This is a channel making series, keep it up, I've learned so much about engines I love thanks to the few videos of this series you made, it helps that it's not done in a boring way and very in-depth. Congrats on the AEM sponsoring by the way!

[@BubbaZanetti6666]

Really enjoying this channel, genuinely shocked at the lack of subscribers! As a mechanic and a petrol/diesel head it’s incredibly informative and funny!

[@ianedmonds9191]

This is a fantastic video and you clearly demonstrate you know your stuff. All the guides on my favourite MR2 board back in the day said 300bhp was the safe point for stock internals before spending the big money. A thing you alluded to that will always be my favourite thing about the MR2 and it's 3s-ge is the reliability. I honestly thrashed the living crap out of my mr2. I bounced it off the rev limiter daily and it never missed a beat. Fantastic sound for a four cylinder and the way the power built over the rev range encouraged you to chase the 7250rpm limit. Absolute diamond of an engine and a car. Thanks for the video. Luv and Peace.

[@darrell-dublyu]

Glad I bought a 91 MR2 Turbo a few years ago when they were still kind of cheap. The value appreciation on these machines is crazy! I'd pay thousands more for the same car today!

[@reneneron2971]

Nice series. One correction: TVIS (and the tuned duel plenum of the 3SGE) has nothing to do with valve timing; both impact air flow through the intake and head only to increase torque at low RPM.

[@kiwidiesel5071]

Correct and Yamaha did a magnificent job of creating a near perfect flow rate on these heads with that plenum and exhaust system.

[@antilogism]

Yes, it was on my 4A-GE with fixed timing (1985).

[@shitakanod6812]

@@antilogism these were removed from later models on the 4ag because they became a common failure point, they had the idea just not the execution then nailed it on the 3sg. also the 5th gen honda prelude has basically the same thing.

[@negativeindustrial]

Finally! Someone showing love for the greatest 4cyl of all time Easily the best video I’ve ever seen on the 3S-GTE engine. Thank you very much.

[@inaNis_]

I'm pretty sure that the 503E engine, which was in the cars like the Eagle Talon mk3, was the basis of the 3S engine. Being a race engine, many materials were exotic, such as the block, which was a special iron that isn't the same as the typical cast iron you see in the vast majority of engines. The cylinder heads are also completely unique, due to the differences in water jackets and cooling between the 503E and the 3S-GTE. They are directly related however!

[@not12listen]

I removed the 4AGE from my AW11. What replaced it? 3SGE (Gen1). It is absolutely bonkers to drive! The throttle response is instant and the power does not taper off, even when you're screaming near the 7200rpm redline! There is no other engine/setup that I could ever imagine/want in my AW11.

[@AaronBonBarron]

I love my 3S engines! I've got a 1989 Celica GT-Four that I've just bought a Caldina 3SGTE for, and I'm slowly building a 5SGTE for my 1984 Celica. You should make a video about the 1UZ at some point, they're a really under-appreciated engine! I put one in my Cresta instead of the 1/2JZ that everyone else runs and I love it, so now I'm putting one in my 1977 Celica too and boosting it. Toyota FTW

[@marcostorres1053]

You are living my dream... I have a 1991 Celica that I'm just now going to build, It has a 5sfe I'm planning on doing a 3sge swap this year it's my first project car do you have any advice?

[@AaronBonBarron]

@@marcostorres1053 buy the repair manual for your car and for the car your donor engine came from. I can't recommend repair manuals enough, they make everything a lot easier and just reading them helps you understand how it all works.

[@THATTOYOTAGUY]

Sick man! The 3s series is awesome indeed ! I love my beams swapped celicas :D

[@haydenwood2927]

I have a ‘04 GT-Four Caldina. Looks like a family wagon. But rips almost anything on the street. Leaves those evo boys scratching their heads after they get beat at the lights.

[@maze2756]

Good stuff, I had a st151 corona with a 4th gen swap. Had to get a "family" car so I got a 99 st215 gtt 🤭😜

[@panicwire]

You make an excellent point about the NA engine with ecu. I make wire harnesses and tuning solutions for a living with a lot of BEAMS customers. It's not uncommon to see +30-40HP with an ecu and good tune. In a small car it's quite adequate.

[@fernandodelarosa-x5j]

Hey bro I’ve got a question if you don’t mind, I’ve got a 90’ 5th gen celica st with a 4age engine that locked up, I want to buy a 3sge with an automatic transmission to swap into the celica, would I have to make a custom wiring harness for the car? And what kind of computer or ecu would I need that can match the computer to the car?

[@midgrave]

giving 4 bangers some love

[@Ol_Durty_Badger]

Love this series! The ST165(1986-1989) was the first AWD Turbo 4cyl to win titles in the WRC. The 165 is the first iteration of the 3sgte, renowned for its incredible block. A 1sgt gen Block Frankenstined with a 185 or 205 head and later model turbo setups is an ironclad street and strip monster. My 1sgt gen GTE has been running on its original rebuilt using other gen parts and a JDM GRP A trans for almost 10 years and reliably makes close to 350 at the wheels. Gas Mileage is shitty but I didn’t build it as a commuter. Find some of the older Gt-Four and home built Gt2’s out there from the early 2000’s and ask them what they ran back then. Later model heads and turbo parts. 1st gen Blocks. Solid and proven combo. Keep doing this series its badass!

[@dreizenit7758]

i have a gen 1 on my ae92. upgraded turbos and internals. honda dizzy and box. solid af to drive

[@heavyarcade]

Hi guy, i'm a french enthusiast who had discover your channel just before to buy an Mk1 MR2 AND an Mk2 MR2 Turbo. Loving your style and your subject, thanks for all informations and passion you diffuse. I'm also an very lucky owner of a Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 and i would like to see one day an entire video of his mythic engine, the RB26 ! Until this subject, i send you all my petrolhead energy to continue your amazing work !

[@jakeeames725]

I own 2 st165 celica all tracs I’m bringing back from the grave. Not easy, definetly not cheap, but so worth it. There is a good aftermarket for 3sgte still. Look at quaiffes atb center differential. Cool stuff. Can make these cars very fast and reliable with right parts. OG Jdm turbo awd ftw

[@theblishknovk]

Keep this series going! Loving it.

[@isaactezza]

i love the linear power in my dad's g4 3sge in the altezza amazing overall power and its more reliable than a prius, that says a lot

[@keithw4920]

Two Way Twin Scroll, BEAMS, TVIS. I loved the abbreviations on the JDM engines when I was a small kid.

[@RedJohn86]

Finally!!! I was waiting for this. You didn't talk about putting a turbo on a 3sge beams. Beams+turbo is going to be something

[@relaxedboy1]

yeah i was wondering about this, am interested in buying an altezza and boosting it in the future. seen a lot of threads with mixed messages about that

[@SomebodysNephew]

I have a 3SGE in my awd rav4. Gotta say its not the fastest thing but all wheel drive and 2700lbs gets it done. I love the little thing.

[@HardlyDrivenSon]

Hey, this is a fantastic video man, I really enjoyed it, I have owned my celica gt4 wrc (with non active antilag, spray bar ect..) for a year now and it still makes me as happy as the first time driving it, I'm not a wizard with the mechanics so I cant give input on this but I want to learn as much as I can and this video is some real motivation to go about doing so, thank you and keep up the good work

[@MMOchAForPrez]

I'm planning on building a cheap 5S-FE right now, and I'm loving the simplicity of this engine. There's a boatload of them out in junkyards and upgrades have gotten more accessible over the years. I'm so excited to get refresh this little engine and make some power

[@DigBipper188]

Most cars with a turbo: BRAAAA *woosh* 800hp turbocharged 3S-GTE: BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *STUTUTUTUTUTUTUTU*

[@stefan_4508]

That has nothing to do with the car lol you’ve just described the difference between having a blow off valve and not having one 😂

[@madsupervilian.]

@@stefan_4508 well for whatever reason, they all seem to sound just the way DIgBigger188 pronounce it with the STUTUTUTUTUT.

[@X5XST4RK1L3R]

@@stefan_4508 bro you’re dumb that is just surge anti surge housings are what help mitigate surge.

[@seanb9698]

@@X5XST4RK1L3R It's a vent to atmosphere blow off valve, not surge

[@Shadow1986]

you hear the sound in the 3sgte whether it's recirc or atmo.

[@thoward0]

Great learning more about my favorite engine! Running 91 SW20 w/ 4th Gen 3SGTE and GT2860rs. Best sound track.

[@colincharan-kumpula6424]

Toyota Caldina GT-FOUR Station Wagon (Gen 4 3S-GTE) 2002-2007 - Amazing all round car, practical. Has the 90s 4WD turbo cred and feeling but rock solid Toyota mid-2000's reliability. Real shame Toyota did not make a successor.

[@glassesmorty]

Im ready to buy myself a Toyota Celica GT4 ST205, very excited to begin the build !!

[@mondomoleno.3404]

Very informative! I plan on swapping a 3SGE into my '85 Pickup, so there's lots of interesting information here. As for iconic American engines? You don't get more iconic than the 454 big block Chevy and it's small block brother, the 350. The LS series engines are more common, but in terms of engines that make up a huge part of car culture history in America, it's predecessors take the cake. Decades of racers used Chevy engines in classic hot rods, drag cars, street cars, low riders, and everything else you can imagine.

[@cire626]

3sgte 1995 geo prizm. One hell of a daily driver. Awd will correct that those traction issues. Love this engine

[@tzezai]

Great information...finally someone talk about 3sge...

[@johnsmith7709]

100 hp per cylinder is astounding... 200 + hp per cylinder is insane. I do love this channel.

[@isaac-qz7hn]

This is one of the best KZbin videos I have seen in a while

[@freedbeefpontoons]

Man, my parents had an '85 Camry. Never realized growing up that it might have had one of the first 3S engines ever. My first car was a 1988 celica all-trac. Cool car, classic old-school turbocharged feeling.

[@UXXV]

Great video. Thought Toyota lied about power, at least on the gen3 MR2 turbos. Mine came across with about 30k miles on the clock and got serviced then dyno'd completely stock making 280bhp at the crank. Simple mods and upping the boost got that over 300 safely and I ran it up to about 108k miles for 7 years before selling on.

[@turdferguson989]

Great video! I have a usdm 94 MR2 with a 5th gen 3sgte. The boost is set to around 17psi and did 340whp on the dyno. Super fun car to drive!

[@rcap9182]

caldina engine swap?

[@milkomigneco6879]

Long live the legend! Love mine day after day, wouldn't trade/swap for anything ever

[@GM-fh5jp]

I have a '94 JDM MR2 GT-S Turbo (black) with the Ct20b ceramic shaft turbo. (245ps stock) It is an amazing car and the engine *and* turbo have proven extremely reliable and I have has no issues with either. Truly one of the great Japanese engines. Nice video and analysis...thanks for posting!

[@huzib.8623]

Wow. Glad i own my St246w GT Four. It will be a classic in years time. Gonna mods it

[@kentonian]

Correction, the mr2’s only had an air to air intercooler whereas the celica’s were air to water. Also tvis is a variable intake system not valve related

[@2j_tv10]

I've got a stock Altezza at the moment, can't wait to see what the black top does with a bolt on turbo and some weight reduction.

[@oscarwalton1188]

Loose the duel Mass flywheel go with a light weaght one the throtle response will pick up faster

[@harryarmstrong-coop3207]

Just bought a 99 altezza with beams dual vvt-i as my first car. Loving it

[@HalftimeRanga]

Just stumbled upon this video and have already shared it to 3 toyota groups, love ya work bro. Love from New Zealand

[@hectorae86]

VW KR, PL and PG engines. PL is the original 1.8 16V, the KR is the electronic injection (Bosch K or L-Jetronic) version of the 1.8 16V and the PG is the 1.8 8V G-lader engine. All of them have the same block, in fact even the 20V engines all still use that same block.

[@mazzaneetum]

Absolutely amazing information, i have a 3sgte engine I'm currently building into a monster and its such an underrated platform.

[@jasonbodi503]

Got the 3SGE in my 86 Celica GTS and love it! Had the car 14 years. Plan to swap in a Beams red top when it finally dies

[@kiwidiesel5071]

Put a 5th gen blacktop in it mate. Got one in my SXE10 Altezza, epic engine for NA and it's not a vtec either!

[@callummcrae7774]

@@kiwidiesel5071 better off sticking with the redtop, the improvement of the blacktop isn't worth the extra hassle when doing the conversion into FWD/4WD applications

[@cypher1018]

I've had a G1 3SGTE sitting in my shed for 10 years while i waited for the right time to build it. I've had a Celica before, now I'm looking at another to swap this beast of an engine into it.

[@MindDezign]

You just got this series by the " BALLs" very useful very informative great humor and enthusiasm ...I have a mind_gasm watching this series !

[@d4a]

I had an ego-gasm reading this comment. Thank you so much!

[@MindDezign]

@@d4a that's "RIPE !

[@FumanShu8]

@@d4a I 100% agree! Even the rap is getting better. Thanks for the huge tip about how the 3S-GTE gen 3 is probably the best gen for squeezing big power. However, could you elaborate on what you meant by an engine that makes the majority of its power in the high rev zone is probably not the best for a daily driver?

[@d4a]

@@FumanShu8 I was referring to a heavily tuned naturally aspirated 3sge. To get big NA power you need to make the engine rev very high and high powered NA four cylinders usually have a weak bottom end of the power curve and poor idle and are very loud as a consequence. This makes it kinda crappy around town. But I'm really speaking about heavily tuned naturally aspirated engines around the 300hp+ mark as you can see in the video. These engines often aren't even road legal anymore in many parts of the world.

[@char1337]

@@d4a I actually love my BEAMS blacktop I have in my RN30, I'm pulling just a hair under 300whp, straight piped and pisses everyone off but it's a blast to drive around the city, also lucky enough to be legal because of the age of the car it's in. being a 1983, I don't have any type of inspection.

[@disgustipated57]

I just bought a 3s motor today. I had no idea about the racing history behind it. I'm excited to build it

[@mashedpotatoes77]

Ah yes, the 4 cylinder that could. Really want to get my self a Caldina GT4. Love the power and practicality of the wagon.

[@jakeeames725]

AHMAD H. I have a st165 shell I’ll sell to you... but it’s in Alaska

[@colincharan-kumpula6424]

Caldina GT-FOURs are still somewhat common in my country. Seen many still driving around with 150k-200K kms on the odo. I have a '04. Daily driver for 5 years, no problems whatsoever just fluid changes. Brakes arn't great but good pad and slotted rotors fixed that. Amazing all round car, Real shame Toyota did not make a successor.

[@mashedpotatoes77]

@@colincharan-kumpula6424 indeed it's a shame that it did not get a successor. It was the last generation for many things. The last Caldina, the last GT 4 and has the final iteration of the 3S GTE. Thanks for the heads up about the brakes. I'll be sure to be on the lookout for that.

[@DB.KOOPER]

I've always wanted one of those ST205 Celicas (and All-Trac of course). I won and have owned a lot of Toyotas but that's one I'd love to own and restore.

[@mccsmotorsport9511]

Just about finished building my black top 3sge to trd spec 200kw at the wheels na. Also have a nice 3sgte. Adore the family of engine.

[@crabmansteve6844]

V8s will always have a place in my American heart, but there is nothing I love more than hearing a 4-banger about to split at the seams from all the boost and the anti-lag screaming. I mean that honestly.

[@Realtime1501]

gen 5fs came in the camry 2.2 and in the rav4 of the same gen making the hybrid 5fs with 3s head is a monster

[@n0ti5]

F series head engines where almost always the non-performance engines in toyota's line up they almost always have low power numbers and not very much in technology nor excitement in the engine design, so i think most F series head engine's wont come up in the iconic engine series. But yeah I agree the 5sfe block with 3sgte head should have been brought up which has been given the name 5sgte a stroker engine made with toyota parts just like the 7age. ATS racing also has a 2.3 liter kit for this frankenstein engine kinda like mrp's 9age kit. Maybe there could be a 3s revision or part 2 video. :D

[@DerbJd]

My bro has had a Starion 2.6 Turbo Wide Body and has now got a Stagea RS4. Loves the JDM Imports. I’ve had a 100nx (boo!) and a 200sx (yay!).

[@forresttucker168]

Sr20, and its older brother FJ20, you need to have a good look at those.

[@DirtyTriniDog]

I have an almost stock beams dual VVTi blacktop. Installed aluminum flywheel and twin-disc clutch. Changed 2 manual gearboxes with that setup since.

[@JordanPoplawski]

I Just found your channel and I'm loving the iconic engine series, great stuff keep it up 👌

[@gaijins30]

@ 27.38 - Ive run 500hp for years on 21lb Gt35r stock internals, 400whp yes. Just need to be a little gentle. Awesome video too btw

[@vince_nevermind1159]

If you want a suggestion on european engine : check peugeot's TU ( TU 24, TU 5JP4) and XU engines ( 205 gti, 306 s16, 405 mi16 etc) familys

[@SampionicBoom]

You should have mentioned the AWD 3SGTE Toyota Caldina sports Wagon which generates 260Hp. A crazy performance Wagon!

[@alexfraser88]

This video is amazing mate, fellow kiwi long live the kiwi beast rod millen

[@d4a]

Rod the god :)

[@kylehurd4748]

I just brought home a gen 1 3sgte. Now im so much more excited. It's mated to an all trac celica trans and I'll be putting it into my 89 corolla alltrac sedan

[@theblishknovk]

I was at pikes peak race in 2016. It was amazing. I lived in Colorado Springs for about a year so could not pass it up.

[@Mnementh21]

I have got a full stock gen 1 3sge 1988 Toyota Corona GT (Carina in us). It still pulls hard in this day and age . Such a fun car to drive with tvis Pegasus and a LSD.

[@dascentlounge8763]

Omg I learned so much from this video it not even funny 💯💯💯💯 so here it is: Gen four 3sgt with with 3rd gen internal and big turbo, AEM 2 brains stop tech brakes in the rear with some slics and a tune done ✅

[@drednough]

My suggestion for an european engine: VAG AEB 1.8T but be aware its most likely that Volkswagen asked Toyota how to build this 20V turbocharged fourcylinder inline engine since Toyota had the same technology years in advance. The AEB is an engine with good availability nowadays and it can reach 350hp with mild tuning and up to 1000hp with major tuning. Thumbs up for the iconic rap.

[@drednough]

On a second thought there is nothing iconic about the AEB. The original Audi Quattro engines seem more likely to fit to your series of iconic engines. Namely the WR or its beefier brother RR. Inline five cylinder engines with 2144ccm displacement from the mid 80s.

[@Fe_lix]

Very different kind of engines but definitely need to do the good old Land Cruiser engines, the F, 2F, 3F engines and the 1FZ successor.

[@DeftAnesthetik]

I've got a 4th gen GTE swapped into my sw20 with upgraded intercooler and dual exhaust. BOV deleted. Absolutely love it. =D Planning on aftermarket ECU and boost controller this year. PO said the car dynoed at ~290 Long term goal is to push to 400hp+ but keep it streetable

[@Lalomalo_solidinca]

Top secret Japan’s dopest racing team did this Toyota is the best

[@saifuddinudin1748]

Lalo Malo ,honda is the number 1 best car from japan toyota is the second best car from japan because toyota is never be a championship in f1 race..sorry for my poor english

[@Lalomalo_solidinca]

Saifuddin Udin Honda has never had a factory production turbo engine until like 2010 Toyota has had turbo since the early 80’s Celiac has won many rally championships in the 80s and 90s Toyota is In NASCAR 1st Japanese car in nascar Toyota has some of the best 4 and 6 and 8 Cylinders motors ever made on earth Still used till this day Do the research buddy

[@alexanderburger3399]

I own a 1987 4th gen Celica 2.0GT convertible with a 3sge (150hp no cat) and a 1988 SV20 Camry with a 3sfe (121hp with cat). Both are amazing. With the celica people (non car guys of course) tend to expect a big V8 under the hood and I use to reply that it's half as big and twice as fun. And as far as the Camry is concerned: I've converted 5 Mercedes owners to Toyota enthusiasts... It's just - that - good.

[@d4a]

It's just - that - good!!!

[@alexanderburger3399]

@@d4aIt's meant to be read in a "Scotty Kilmer-isch" voice... XD ;)

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Such a great throw back video about the 3S series of engines. As a side note if I ever buy a Supra again, the first thing I would do is rip that 2JZ out and sell it. There are way better engines that will go into that chassis and be more fun for street driving. Yup I said it and I am okay with this. (:

[@Jzx90MkII]

one of the best and informative automotive channels on youtube for sure 💯 props to you sir. Can you make a video on the 4AFE next?

[@user-qw9xv1xx3p]

I’m still Processing the 4 cylinder beating an RB engine :0

[@Indy_at_the_beach]

After watching the vids on the all the Toyota engines I have concluded they are all fabulous.

[@ilham7345]

KE70+BEAMS=perfection still dreaming lol

[@jayceminner5464]

I'm currently building an AE71 with a Beams swap. Can't wait for it to be ready to roll.

[@W333dm4n]

fun fact the e120(9th gen, 2003-2008) corolla shares its chasis with the Caldina and with some drilling and welding using caldina parts it can be made into awd. corolla has same frame rail as the caldina so you copy paste and you got yourself a monster sleeper.

[@JoshuaMadurai]

love these videos...please consider doing a vtec engine vid and a nissan sr20/sr20ve vvl

[@HOTPLATEGAMING]

Joshua Madurai Dude gets a Hard on with Toyota.

[@vladislavfeldman6562]

I had the 3SGE in my 1988 sx Celica good for about 400,000 km and auto gearbox lasted 650,000 km.

[@ct26turboturbo84]

Love the series can we get the 2tc and 3tc next n keep up the great vids

[@tyronejoseph2505]

Thank you for the thorough history of these engines. I always new they were great, I just didn't know they were that great. I own a 92 MRT2 with the 3SGTE engine in it. Made a few mods to it which boosted the HP up a couple hundred. Also controlled by an AEM stand alone. Really fun car to drive; not fun to wok on....tight engine bay. None the less, I love it. Keep up the good work. Your content is very detailed and thorough.....Thanks

[@GM-fh5jp]

Try removing the bootlid fully from the car and you can sit in the boot and work on the engine with ease.

[@davidagcole]

I love my mildly modded 3SGTE. It still has the ability to shame many a modern car! Great video, thanks 👍 Has to be 1J, 2J, RB26 or K20 next. I know they aren't euro or us but they are way cooler! 😉

[@webweasel4401]

Me too! I have a JDM Celica GT4 ST205. All you really need to do is let them breath and its a serious upgrade. Decent filter, decat and exhaust is all you really need. The stage 1 upgrade on the turbo really helped too, hits 12psi at 3100 rev's now. Being a bit neglected right now as I bought the new Supra back in September.

[@davidagcole]

@@webweasel4401 absolutely. Only other thing I'd add is an ebc to up the boost slightly. Sounds like you have a great motor there. I'm on the fence with the mk5 though, struggling with the BMW thing. 😉

[@webweasel4401]

@@davidagcole Try one on a test drive. And don't forget that collab's are normal in the industry. The 3S the 2J engines were Yamaha designs.

[@autosanctuary7613]

All I want to hear is about the 2JZ GTE. Like your series, keep it up, don't stop.

[@turdferguson1021]

Love the in depth videos.

[@lindsaydempsey5683]

I owned a Japanese domestic model 2004 Altezza (same body shell as Lexus IS200) RS200Z with the 3SGE BEAMS Dual VVTi engine and 6MT. It had a cold air intake and free flow exhaust, but was otherwise stock. The only thing that stopped it was the rev limiter. Super reliable and an absolute pleasure to drive. Great handling. The only thing that let it down was Toyota's choice of gearbox ratios that had big gap between 2nd and 3rd and very small gap between 5th and 6th.

[@Sidewinder5]

3sge beams red top N/A= 197hp..Redline 8000rpm 3sgte 4th Gen 257hp stock! Redline approx 6500rpm..

[@kiwidiesel5071]

I got a 5th gen blacktop 3sge with titanium valves, 215hp an 8200rpm Redline, Makes most v8 owners give up thinking they can leave you in their mirror about the same time as they hear it roaring with induction noise past their drivers window between throwing that 6spd shifter into the next warp factor 😂

[@mccsmotorsport9511]

@@kiwidiesel5071 hmm cnc head over sized valves cams forged internals high comp pistons itbs and a few other things and 9k rpm and these sing.

[@kiwidiesel5071]

@@mccsmotorsport9511 That sounds like a rather good recipe of parts mate. 9k rpm😲 any valve spring upgrades? I know they are from the 1990's idealolgy which blessed us with over engineered and manufactured components thereby creating the legendary status they have come to be known as and in doing so the creators blessed us with a massive redundancy factor, especially when compared to the latest plastic fantastic elastic alloy excuses for engines.

[@mccsmotorsport9511]

@@kiwidiesel5071 full new valve train springs the lot. Port polish and flow tested with heavy CNc porting.

[@kiwidiesel5071]

@@mccsmotorsport9511 So a Frankenstein top end huh. Only problem is the cost of this would almost certainly exceed option B which would be forced induction, only requiring decompressed pistons and a switch from titanium valves to steel valves, (red top head) decent head gasket and your choice of super charger or turbo for the huff and puff. The list goes on whichever option you choose I guess, ecu, intercooler, injectors etc to do the job correctly and reliably but I would love to hear that thing at 9000rpm tho...That would be a banshee scream worth hearing. Do you still retain the dual vvt system or a simplified fixed cam setting?

[@thechippy666]

Well I have only seen a hand full of your videos and at first I almost didn’t give you a change but I’m so glad I did !!! Definitely like to see this channel grow keep it up !! Great info and presentation!!

[@dorranrobinson6207]

Bro big up from jamaica.u just saying music toy hears at my brand toyotas..toyota king of the autos...👑👑👍👍👍👍👍

[@AINSLEYUTG]

Fi real bredda straight outta Jamaica...one a dem engine ya me a pree fi put inna my ae 111

[@Mr.ToadVanShroom]

i own a 3sge 90´ MR2 and i really didnt know bout the potential the engine has. I´m glad i saw that video, so instead of selling the car i invest and make the engine stronger as before. Thanks =D

[@HeathHerring666]

just give the man his sub.

[@nealmac187]

Delighted to own an MR2 and an Altezza with a 3SGE in each of them - BEAMS in the Altezza, of course. I might supercharge it, one day.