Accessible & Inaccessible Music

[@crustbag]

Hey y'all, I hope you enjoyed the video!! I wanted to make something that was more "casual" than a standard video essay. Half way between spit-balling ideas and a fully formed essay. Idk, experimentation is cool! There were a few things I glossed over to keep it simple (Like the times when pop-focused mainstream acts were actually trying something different & cool, Ghost's aesthetic impacting their success despite being detached from their sound, Spiritbox's success, etc.) just to cut down on time. So it's not the most thorough, but I hope you enjoy it regardless! And here's the artists who's work was sampled: Merzbow, Unicorn on K, Big Chef, haircuts for men, Opal Vessel, Industrial Forest (me), isolated path, Christian Lovers, Akira Yamaoka, Jarrod Alonge, Sugar Wounds, & Bonegraft. Okay that's it, see ya next video 🖤

[@teh_gangrene]

I liked this type of vid, I wouldn't mind seeing more

[@dmplacencia]

I have a question, what are peoples takes on Last Days of Humanity

[@brockr294]

love some Akira Yamaoka, SH2 is still one of my favorite game soundtracks of all time

[@GoonToThrones]

Great vid loved it. You and wyattxhim are hands down the best music channels.

[@fabianaa.7660]

I LOVED this video, pls make a part 2!!! 🙏🏻

[@Pagefire]

Pop music is inaccessible for me cause Ed Sheeran doesn't sound like a broken car trying to run without gas covered in a wall of noise

[@groovewoundz]

Too real

[@bunnirotz]

andri spittin fr

[@dmplacencia]

Who need music when you have noise

[@PhyrigianFlame]

Ayyy one of you guys made Nekonomicon

[@tomobrien5345]

Taylor Swift is inaccessible to me as she isn’t singing about the terrors of war over a d-beat

[@Zinetha]

I, for some reason, love it when artists are very accessible, build a huge fanbase and THEN start getting weirder and weirder... Because they were always weird on the inside, now they can just afford to be weird on the outside as well.

[@xanist3493]

My first thought is Tim Buckley and Scott Walker, but I’d love to hear some more stuff like that

[@Zinetha]

@@xanist3493 I was mostly thinking of Ashnikko, tbh. She's always been kinda weird, but I think she's getting weirder and weirder and I love it. She's mixing genres more and more, her videos are getting weirder (probably because her budget has gone up but still), her outfits, her lyrics, everything... In example: Her breakthrough hit Stupid is a trap song about how her ex sucks, and it blew up on Tiktok. Her newest album Weedkiller is based on a fantasy/scifi short story she wrote and to promote it, she laid in a glass box for five hours as an art installation. The progress has been gradual, but she's come a long way. Also, I don't really listen to him, but Kanye West did huge radio hits, became a huge star and apparently his newer music is quite weird. I've only heard clips of it.

[@seghj]

I think of the band "Talk talk" from the 80s

[@m0ntaggg]

literally radiohead

[@Shrek_es_mi_pastor]

TOOL somewhat

[@heroponriki666]

Pornogrind is a special case because it's inaccessible to regular people but it's pretty much accessible in a way that it's a literal invitation to police officers to check your hard drive

[@saggyshaggy]

I remember I was listening to alien fucker once (pornogrind band) and I showed my friend one of thier album covers and he just told me I was listening to felonie music

[@ernestoemil1160]

Lmaoo trueeee

[@orikarin714]

@@saggyshaggy I love alien fucker, i am seeing them next week:)

[@Avi-qn1sm]

@@saggyshaggyYES DUDE like I love horny & suicidal by that band but the album cover is so cursed and I'm worried that people at my gym (for context I listen to heavier metal at the gym all the time) are going to see it on my phone and silently judge me

[@ElLenadorLA]

I’ve noticed even listening to my “inaccessible bands” many times the songs I initially love on the album end up being my least favorite for being too simple and the ones I didn’t “get” at first became favorites.

[@Max-cz3iy]

Yes bro this!

[@benamisai-kham5892]

I have a coin flip with this because I get into almost all music by finding the sound of one song I like, the fork in the path is whether it's their only good song or it's the song I end up liking least on that album. Is that sound lightning in a bottle?

[@kelechi_77]

I've always felt accessibility is what society deems as normal, microtonal music is a staple of countries like Turkey, but would weird people out in the west. There's also stuff like gamelan music which would be weird to people in the west. I think if the time is right, maybe through memes or something else even stuff like grindcore could become mainstream to some effect. In some ways it already is, it's the first thing people think about when I say "metal" not knowing that metal is actually a lot more accessible. Like some girl I was talking to said she could never listen to metal but then had Black Sabbath in her playlist.

[@brimphemus]

grindcore becoming mainstream would be nuts! total fever dream, but i dont think i'd mind

[@potatotaxi]

grindcore physically cannot become mainstream, metal has progressively gotten more and more extreme specifically to avoid the mainstream

[@kelechi_77]

@@potatotaxi There wouldn't be grindcore mall muzak per se but I could definitely see some gen z tiktok meme that popularizes a lot of grindcore bands

[@brimphemus]

@@kelechi_77 a lot of random extreme music shit has gone viral.on tiktok for no reason like skramz and dsbm but i dont think that impacted the popularity of these genres in a noticeable way to be fair still would be funny and cool to see assück or terrorizer going viral.on tiktok for a lil while

[@potatotaxi]

@@kelechi_77 oh yeah totally, I can see You Suffer becoming a meme and leading to a small grind resurgence

[@Vin_Vin_Situation]

Your Knocked Loose/Elvis Point reminds me a lot of Rammstein, 20-30 years ago they played in front of some hundred people and now they're nearly mainstream without sacrificing their heavyness.

[@dwkluka511]

Rammstein is kinda like the band that most "normal" people will play when they wanna be like "haha yeah, listen to this heavy stuff. So edgy and disturbing right?!"

[@groovewoundz]

@@dwkluka511nah fr

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

​@@dwkluka511Well the shock factor is there, and it's also true Rammstein songs and performances can be disturbing and NSFW, ye.

[@Somewhere_Bagel]

@@dwkluka511 accurate

[@khanate1879]

love the Akira Yamaoka music kicking in at the wellness retreat.

[@denno445]

i need a miracle and not someone's charity

[@toastedcherries]

i find it so fascinating when artists can combine some of the most accessible genres ever like rock or pop music with way less accessible genres like idm/drum & bass/etc for example without compromising anything from either side of the spectrum

[@snowerra5881]

toasted cherries based crustbag watcher ..

[@V4ND4L1Z3RR]

DUUUUDE did not expect to see you here holy shit love u both!!!

[@offan-]

my favorite genre for a while has been atmo black which is literally ambient smashed into harsh low fidelity bm

[@bah-fv2ec]

haii

[@scragglie]

charli xcx did that fantastically on some of her recent albums. her newest one is pretty meh, but the 2 before are fantastic imo

[@DrShak2009]

Talking about accessibility, as someone who watches a decent amount of video essays, it's nice to watch one that's kinda just short and to the point. Like, you *could* do a deep dive on everything, I'm sure there's a lot there, but you went in made your points, showed some examples and that was good enough. All in all, good video.

[@HoodKombo]

Talking about KZbin comments, as someone who reads a decent amount of comment sections, it's nice to read one that's kinda just short and to the point. Like, you could write several paragraphs on everything, I'm sure there's a lot there, but you went in and made your point, kept it to three sentences and that was good enough. All in all, good comment.

[@DrShak2009]

@@HoodKombo Looking at youtube replies...

[@llumpy]

ITS CRUSTBAG TIME

[@dmplacencia]

To the crustmobile?

[@maxlhetvxhywxvxbm7645]

It's Crusting time!

[@Wishful_Louie]

My favorite quote

[@octopusyogurt1883]

FUCK YEAH

[@greatmajingo]

WHO UP CRUSTING THEY BAG

[@ernestoemil1160]

crustbag is kinda in this scale. niche, getting more recognition, but never chainging for the worst. keep it up man :)

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

"neash" lmao

[@ernestoemil1160]

@@Sergio-nb4hj man i cant White in english im from sweden :(

[@nate.m4916]

@@ernestoemil1160 that's okay, everyone can tell what word you were going for, but if you do want to know, the correct spelling is niche

[@rubberysquid]

It’s spelt “niche” :D

[@ernestoemil1160]

@@nate.m4916 @rubberysquid thx guys :)

[@omer-sela-rothenberg]

That high five at around 3:09 should win an oscar for best visual effects

[@bestwesterner]

That’s what I’m saying bro

[@laketoriver]

right? I was so impressed he hit that so well

[@ann1hel]

not to ruin the fun (but im totally going to lmao) you can move stuff around in video editors.

[@laketoriver]

@@ann1hel yeah but the fact it’s not choppy or sloppy is what we’re talking about

[@aster1sk294]

something thats kind of interesting to me is that gothic rock is not typically viewed as accessible even though a lot of it is just 80s pop but edgier

[@truffeltroll6668]

It is very accessible, you are right. But it's really accessible to people above 50 that grew up with it. The way that pop developed makes it less accessible for younger people. A lot of new listeners seem to listen to it just to be "goth", with is a bit weird.

[@bladedragon8733]

​@@truffeltroll6668this is a very valid point i tend to be a bit skeptical of some goths because theres so much bragging that goes on and its like... do you really LIKE the music or do you listen to it and know a lot about it for status reasons, ya know?

[@tankermottind]

My only real experience with gothic rock is the MIDIs of it used in the first few maps of the Doom megawad Scythe 2 and I always thought it just sounded like ordinary pop rock when you take away the production and surface aesthetics and boil it down to the actual musical material (as a MIDI does).

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

So like, Ghost, right?

[@tankermottind]

@@AcidifiedMammoth I wouldn't know because I forget what Ghost sound like the moment I am no longer actively hearing them.

[@aidanpresley2146]

knocked loose and lorna shore hitting the mainstream without watering down their sound is still crazy to me

[@bhineasbenils7318]

If anything knocked loose may have gotten heavier with time!

[@sloshed-rat]

"Knocked Loose is Emmure for guys who dress like Jay & Silent Bob."

[@WALTJOY]

This comment has aged like wine because how do we live in a world where Knocked Loose was on Jimmy Kimmel

[@anightcreature]

it’s a good day when crustbag uploads

[@kkarhiiv95]

Here in Estonia, one time local radio station accidentally played a really good local cult classic noise- rock song. This was the only time anything interesting was played in the last 7 years.

[@varjo.]

A weird phenomenon for me as a German is definitely Rammstein. An absolutely huge internationally successful band with very little accessibility considering that they sing entirely in german and are a neue Deutsche härte/industrial metal band. I guess a lot of Accessibility is through their live performances which are just a spectacle but I mean people listen to their music outside of that as well. Their music does vary vastly in accessibility with anything from soft ballads to fast paced riffs, heavy drums and rough screaming vocals. But funnily enough some of their heavier songs are the more known ones when you’d generally expect the complete opposite, that their softer more agreeable songs are the ones that would do well. But I guess some of the Accessibility also comes through not actually understanding what they’re saying, I’ve seen so many foreigners really enjoy the music and then be shocked and terrified when they translate the lyrics and understand what Rammstein is actually singing about. The guitar riffs are pretty accessible too I guess, most of the time. But largely the international success is still a mystery to me since they’re really not very accessible. Especially because they’re a lot more popular internationally than they are here in Germany. In Germany they’re faced with a lot of controversy and hate. I love that they never watered down their style. They’ve been sticking to what they do for 30 years now.

[@nondescriptcat5620]

"but the single most inaccessible music genre humanly possible would most likely be, say it with me now" Merzbow? "Harsh Noise." same thing. if you'd told me, when Chaosphere came out, that Meshuggah would be one of the most influential bands in Metal in 25 years, i don't know if i'd be surprised or think "yeah that makes sense." the best extreme music presents the inaccessible in a way that is so compelling that people are invested enough to engage, thus it gradually becomes relatively more accessible over time. Archspire, i would imagine, is pretty opaque to normies, but they're building on Tech Death ideas that Cryptopsy and Suffocation lay down decades ago, which provides context to understand how richly articulated their aggressive walls of sound are. there's so much you could go into, because inaccessibility is multifaceted, it isn't just fast and heavy or intentionally abrasive stuff. there are bands that are conceptually complex or just weird. Secret Chiefs 3, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Mr. Bungle, The Residents, Captain Beefheart. often that edge of weirdness ends up making them more engaging. if you forget that Tool is popular, they're a pretty weird band; long, doomy, contemplative prog metal in odd time signatures, but that made them stand out. Primus has made a 40 year career of being accessibly inaccessible.

[@garlicenthusiast2285]

2:44 as someone who has seen gutalax several times live and always enjoyed them, i totally get this video from the bottom of my heart. sometimes sampled fart and shit noises mixed with gutturals and heavy guitars is everything ye need in life...

[@scottoleson1997]

I think comedic music is the great catalyst to the debate of making “good” or “bad” music. Personally, I’ve found that the more fun you have making a song, it gets better reception from peers, as compared to something with a lot of struggle, complexity, or vulnerability, it’s usually a lot more polarizing, in my case at least. Not to say accessibility is the goal, but for trying to gain an audience, working smarter and not harder helps a lot.

[@jeremylhay]

Scott Walker is a good example of someone whose music got less accessible but more creative and interesting over the years.

[@jenconvertibles]

I will die on the hill that scott 4 is his best album though

[@roxandlol_1272]

Crustbag was my bisexual awakening.

[@V4ND4L1Z3RR]

Tbh I love that for you bros pretty

[@icanusernamebetterthanyou3853]

He legit gives me butterflies.

[@SpawnIsSleepy]

Bro gets my dick throbbing no homo

[@ArKaneAcrumProductions]

He is adorable ill admit it

[@Sean_Jaggers]

He wasn't mine but I can see the vision

[@bestwesterner]

It’s a good day when DJ Crazy Dick uploads

[@compizard3629]

Classical music is a great example of this

[@jbbabits7033]

The joy when I saw that you posted

[@isapelaa]

I really enjoyed the video!! It makes me think about the boom that brazilian funk music is getting recently. I am brazilian and it really is one of the most liked and common genres here, but internationally people were amazed by how "different", "weird" and "catchy" it sounds (quote-on-quote because to me it just sounds normal bc of my cultural background). Rlly like your videos!! I always find out about cool artists by them too :)

[@raito34]

Very interesting video and topic! It's interesting how rare it is to see someone talk about it. I think that this topic needs more attention, especially with a lot of alternative musicians getting mega famous over night due to TikTok.

[@tsu_bell]

i never thought of it as “accessibility”, that’s a good way to put this phenomenon. i noticed this kind of thing going on with music and other forms of media/interests among people. there are elements in popular media that is easily digestible to the general population (and maybe it even comes down to the wiring of people’s brains, personalities, culture/location, what type of upbringings and which are more common, etc.). in my own experience, observing the people i’ve always been surrounded by vs. those outside of my life or most of the population in general (in America/the west specifically), there more you diverge from the rest of society the more likelihood you have of being more drawn to the “inaccessible”. I’m autistic and i’ve always had a difficult time relating to most other people so I always isolated or found people like me to be close to; we’ve all tended to have our own strange niche interests. there’s definitely other autistic people who want to be among/relate to the general population so they may be more interested in the “accessible” side of things anyways. the rest of the world who do prefer more accessible media, the trends can provide a lot more relatability (not just that but more, i just don’t have the words for the thought rn) to these people that those of us who lean more towards the inaccessible don’t relate to. i’ve always had a hard time getting into music everyone else seems to be into (besides nu metal lol but that does lean more towards inaccessible but is still popular enough to be accessible).

[@tsu_bell]

i feel like i have so much more i want to think and say about this i just can’t at the moment in that one comment

[@SomeRandomPersonOnYoutube]

6:00 bro HUGE shoutout to you using GuitarHeroPhenoms Through The Fire And Flames video for that lol. Thats fucking awesome. Also I kinda wish that Psychostick would've been brought up when talking about Comedy Music cause they're absolutely killer and hilarious, but I digress.

[@DylanDekk]

From one chord, one font, and one sound effect I immediately knew you were a Silent Hill fan and had that "hey, you're in the same weird club as me" moment that you described.

[@TheGallicWitch]

Here I thought you were making a video about accessibility options in music for Deaf/HoH people and I was super excited as both a disabled artist and a disability activist myself (on top of that, my main area of activism IRL and online is accessibility). Ah well, perhaps another time.

[@JT-nk3sh]

for me, accessible music is very inaccessible since i was very young. when i tried to get into punk, i thought it wasnt for me (i listened to dead kennedys and crass), until i heard nails for the first time and it immediately clicked for me

[@Heisenbinks]

Nails is sick 🤘🤘

[@illdeletethismusic]

sometimes there is a craving for a style you don"t yet know exists. back in the 2000s, when radio stopped playing rock here, i thought i didn"t like contemporary music. then i heard Marilyn Manson, then progressed through Motörhead, Metallica, Dagoba, Kataklysm, Suicide Silence, Meshuggah, and within a year was at Deathspell Omega. and from there it didn"t take long to get into various extremes, Wormed, Portal, Braindrill, Government Alpha

[@BlackAbbath0]

Dude I've watched every video of yours at least 4 times. You genuinely have the perfect formula for a youtuber.

[@moonwarmth124]

seeing bo burnham and big chef on the background summarizes comedy music perfectly.

[@f3rny_66]

I love that the premise is that pop is too simple and repetitive.. and the goes hard into repetitive noise music lmao

[@Kino_the_Crusty]

death grips are exactly that "harsh noise using accessible elements" you mentioned at the start like i recall getting the privileges to play my own playlists at work back at 2015 and like 3 people said "wtf are you doing?" but to match that energy, like 12 of the most valley girl customers you've seen in your life approached me and said "i love this, i need to know the name of this song" when no love came on the shuffle (also shout out to You might think he loves you... for getting all the cute gay boys to approach me to talk EDM)

[@illcuin40]

who's up crusting their bag rn ?

[@dmplacencia]

You stop when you’re asleep?

[@juli7xxxxx]

06:01 I can not escape Guitar Hero. Not that I want to! It was and always will be a huge part of my journey through music and I still enjoy whichever iteration of the 5 button Plastar. But I really can not escape it.

[@strengthmonk]

Regarding speed, the slower you make something, it also becomes super inaccessible, i.e. funeral doom. I think there was a study done on an average listener's preferred bpm (might have been specifically about workout music actually) but it seems that the 80-120 bpm range is pretty normal. You slow it down to 30 ala Bell Witch or Thergothon and people get restless lol

[@brimphemus]

that's true, i mean dude i'm a huge fan of metal and i've been getting heavy into sludge and doom recently... and i still struggle to "handle" funeral doom! the songs are so fucking long!!

[@strengthmonk]

@@brimphemus it's good music for getting reeeeeaaaally inebriated to lol

[@AcidifiedMammoth]

Agreed haha, I mostly stick to the faster songs of DoomMetal, slower ones, like realllly slowerrr ones are lost on me.

[@carboncopyuncut]

Hey!! You featured some clips of mine around the 1:20 and 7:20 marks. thanks for usin em, someone sent it to me and it was cool and i hadn't heard of your channel Just wanted to say this is a SOLID take, agreed af. My general philosophy with makin tunes is making weird experimental sounds for curiosity sake then giving it some familiar/accessible context.

[@alexr4314]

Immediate thumbs up for Lil Texas & Unicorn on K but for real I appreciate the passion put into this video. As an enjoyer of these styles it's nice to hear someone go into depth about them.

[@venturer6378]

Cool video, the shifting of accessibility is a really interesting topic to me. Especially when you see some bands you like growing in popularity without changing their sound (like Knocked Loose). It makes me wonder how the music scene will continue to shift and what other bands or artists will become more recognized because of it.

[@dojapup]

most of my playlists have a full scale of katy perry jcpenny elevator pop but then itll plummet right down to a local town harsh noise band

[@Ozzy-u1v]

These video essay's are so amazing, keep it up man

[@NIANDRAZ]

Man! That's an awesome topic to explore! Thank you for creating and sharing that one! 🙏 ps: shout-out to the HEALTH merch 😤

[@Leftyenby]

I’ve been sick all day binging your content. I wake up, and see a new upload. The fucking goat fr.

[@saggyshaggy]

I have always loved the inecsseable stuff. Not because it's underground and almost no one listens to it, but I genuinely enjoy the sound of them. Not many people get it, but I just love it. My favorite genres are dsbm, power electronics (which is bassicsly harsh noise but with vocals), slam metal and brutal death metal, and extreme doom metal subgenres. Also, goregrind and deathcore. I just felt like sharing that with everyone.

[@manytinyboxes]

this video is actually amazing, thank you :) edit: love the health merch!!!!

[@DJPastaYaY]

Really great video. I like deeper music topics like this.

[@andreacolino401]

god I loved this video so much. it was extremely interesting to see someone put into words so eloquently something I’ve thought about for some time but had no idea how to process. probably one of my favourite videos of you!

[@Houston_Smh]

Knocked Loose got me into the hardcore scene and it was because of the hype around them. Never even knew that type of music existed before i was introduced to them. Wont claim OG fan but thanks to them having those accessible tracks like Counting Worms gave me a bite-sized piece of a much larger amazing genre

[@rampdavidson6397]

Shoutout to Kilby Court! I went to a few shows there around 2009 or so, but I don't live in those parts anymore.

[@thesaurusakasickakatheomc7688]

This was great. I feel like I've been watching some of my favorite bands creeping towards accessibility lately, and this video helped me crystalize my thoughts on the discussion I've been having with myself over it. This is a topic I think about a lot. I would listen to you talk about this for a lot longer.

[@mikeox_is_small]

Knocked Loose getting grammy nominated is so insane, and it has the potential to send a message to other bands that they can succeed without sacrificing their vision or ideals.

[@nightlife4857]

keep putting out bangers like this w this much dope original insight & you’re gonna be on k//l’s trajectory in no time

[@xander1052]

Iirc I once went through a Music Iceberg and filled out 90% of it, chatted with 1 artist I'm friends with and filled out the remaining few tracks

[@jeandelahell9741]

I'm so glad I found your channel, your editing job keeps it entertaining and generally themes are really interesting. Thank you!

[@NightmareLyra]

Don't know why, but this whole thing reminds me of the time Napalm Death played on a children's program on TV in Britain

[@galacticrainz3670]

just found this guy recently and ive been loving the vids! When i watch his vids i feel comfortable just beacsue its so cool to see people that enjoy this music as much as me and the style that comes with it.

[@ssaamil]

You spoke to my soul in this video! Even the examples! VI's drummer is one of my fav drummers, and Archspire is one of my fav Tech Death bands. And also as a musican who produces genres like extratone, harsh noise, hypertone, and more experimental stuff, talking about the "inaccessible" end of this spectrum and showing your appreciation made me happy. cheers inaccessible brother!

[@CrypticJasmine]

This was incredibly interesting and the way you presented everything had an engaging and natural flow. Great topic and video!

[@orionilgner]

This video is one of the best videos ive watched in the past few months. Thank you!!!

[@menacetoscty]

THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing me Lil Texas, i instantly loved it!

[@thatsharakiri178]

yellow swans - going places is the only accessible noise album i know

[@vipersb1]

Very well done, sir. You've earned a sub for this.

[@gloomygrapes5576]

This was so good🖤 you're always getting me to appreciate harsh music even more🥰

[@wallabra]

0:20 how tf did that car get up there lmao

[@ryanstrilchuk5870]

Great video man! One thing I really enjoy is when an artist starts their career with something that sounds more widely appealing but then journies into some obscure genre, often keeping some of the core aspects of their old music, making something unique and new. One band I think did this very well was System of a Down but I would love to hear about some other examples!

[@ashgonza92]

i dont care what people say, the younger generation has good people like this carrying the torch for us

[@soupycat1011]

For me, ambient music is fun to listen to because I have synesthesia. I get to watch pretty colours and shapes whilst nice calm sounds play. Ambient is also surprisingly emotive sometimes, which is awesome for writing or other fun hobbies I have. But I love so many styles of music, especially different metal genres because of the fun shapes and colours that I get to see with them. Music is so fascinating when you have synesthesia istg

[@skrety9250]

bro what do u see if u listen to like deathcore?

[@ranjith27]

@@skrety9250now we know who makes the Darko US videos

[@soupycat1011]

@@skrety9250 its hard to describe, but the best comparison I have is tv static. Loud noises look like bright flashes, and deathcore itself is just fuzzy staticy mess, sometimes with a colour mixed in, usually red or blue, it really depends on the instrument and the notes being played

[@bottlemanic]

A topic that has swirled around my head forever and you covered it so well i feel i came away with an even greater aporeciation for my innacessible tastes. Excellent stuff bro, subbed

[@hearingcolors]

I noticed some powerviolence bands on your wall, got me more interested in your videos. Talk about inaccessible! I used to play in PV band in the late 90s, and I used to think the genre would die out and become forgotten. Glad to see it's still alive. Iron Lung kicks ass!

[@useless.b0nes]

hey crustbag i just wanted to say that I fucking love your videos! i love that you are really passionate about music and its awesome to see other metal/ actually alternative people out there and not doing it for clout. love your videos long or short ill pretty much always watch :)

[@jenconvertibles]

I find this very interesting as someone who has slid up and down this spectrum a fair bit. At one point in my life I dove pretty deep into hardcore music, and I think on reflection I did so mostly because of some subconscious belief that I was “better” if I liked inaccessible music. I’m about to turn 19 now and I’ve accepted that accessibility is not the devil, and now I mostly listen to jazz or rap, genres that I used to despise because I perceived them as bland or basic but now I realise I actually get a lot more enjoyment out of them than the heavy stuff I used to listen to. I still enjoy some more inaccessible music but I think removing that standard when listening to music has allowed me to have a lot more fun as a listener. Great video, very thought provoking

[@RandomCanEHdian]

This is one of the best commentary videos I have EVER seen and am eager to see your future content!

[@noahmcalister]

Dude I can't believe I haven't seen your stuff till now, this was awesome. So many great thoughts here. I think it's also interesting to consider how things feel more accessible as you're exposed to them. Like, first time I heard The Downward Spiral by NIN, I was like, what is this? But after a few listens, I was into it and it clicked, which in turn opened me to more "inaccessible" sounds. So I wonder how that fits into public perception of a band changing, if it's just something where as people are shown a band (or anything else) more, they get used to it and enjoy it. That's how I became a Death Grips fan, my cousin kept showing me them, and I got into them that way. Also 3:06, love Health, can't wait for Rat Wars to drop

[@DPerez3573]

Oh damn...never even heard of Knocked Loose before this vid...now I've spent the last two hours doing a deep dive! Thank you for that!!!

[@charlisebar-shai2613]

Your videos deserve so much more attention man. I discovered you through your incel vs metal lyric video, and I've been hooked ever since. Genuinely one of my favorite channels. Keep putting out bangers man ❤

[@radiactive4986]

im late because i wait for the PERFECT time to watch your videos. everything has to be perfect and its always worth it

[@icecreamget]

4:20 Otto Van Schirach does that, saw hum live in november. I danced, a couple others did too - but most people just stood there, stared and chatted with each other. a couple of people walked out.

[@PlaceHolder994]

Accessibility has a lot to do with people getting used to stuff in my opinion. Me for example, I didn't really like Metalcore at first, now it is my favorite genre, then the same happened with deathcore; I have been getting used to more stuff that past me would've considered unaccessible. This year I discovered this band named VCTMS, and they are my current favorites along with Bleed From within. Highschool me wouldn't have liked them. Finally, knocked loose was where I drew the line, but not anymore. I wouldn't go to a concert, or I would stay as far from the pit as possible because I value my physical integrity, but I'll gladly listen to them on a Sunday morning. Great video dude.

[@johncollyeraravena7968]

Hey! Just wanted to say thank you 💜 your channel just became my go-to place to be safe and relax after a hard day. You're so fucking cool and genuine and I really appreciate that 💜 big hugs from Chile 🤗

[@chcrlxttc]

LOOOVEE these video essays so much man, keep it up!!!

[@rookbranwen8047]

I have the unfortunate fate of working at my local convenience store and can confirm that the music is exactly like what you described at the start of the video. with the occasional decent old rock or metal song. I got so tired of it that I started bringing my own music. Whenever I have a shift that keeps me in the back of the store, you can find me jamming out to a mix of classic and modern rave music in genres such as Hardcore, Speedcore, Breakbeat, Uptempo, Hardstyle, Acid, and DnB.

[@anothersettlementneedsyour9628]

Biggest example that follows the Elvis pattern is jazz. Jazz used to be called devil’s music back in the day. Now it’s probably the most universally liked/accepted/tolerated music. Ya like jazz? Everybody seems to like jazz or at least not dislike it. It’s not just because it’s old, country is pretty old too and you find plenty of people who dislike country. Even though by definition country is accesible as it gets.

[@Somewhere_Bagel]

tbf that was probably most likely cause it was deeply rooted in african american culture, but as time went on eventually people were like. hollyyyy shit this negro sure can play. same with rock n roll probably as well. two fantastic genres that shaped the future of music forever.

[@Trelkovsky69]

Cool video. I don't really know Knocked Loose, but the way you tell it, it sounds like they didn't become more accessible, but more accepted by sticking to their unaccessible music. While Code Orange really became more accessible. Sorry to be nitpicking. Love your videos! Cheers from munich, germany!

[@mycharacterisamenace-qu4zx]

fascinating video! lots to think about. i think the point on replicability is especially noteworthy. if a song can be hummed or sung along to, it's memorable, and it's approachable to the listener, which affects how fans interact with it.

[@maismehl2255]

I really hope this vid gets more attention!! I really enjoyed it

[@chloverSP]

something else that i note with people into inaccessable music, is that they will have the widest music taste youve ever seen in 3 levels you got me. i enjoy stuff speedcore and uptempo like UoK and diabarha then i like asking alexandria, prmsky kray, bulgarian folklor choir like kaval svidi then i enjoy katy perry, James blunt and alec benjamin and modern talking (sometimes bland ass easy to read shit is good, also cheri cheri lady is briliant) then i have a friend who likes afourteen, chemical burn by sophiaaaah and killdozer then she likes mongolian throat singing, sabaton, and some other russian artist i cant remember then she enjoys lana del rey, taylor swift and Olivia rodrigo nothings wrong with liking the safe music imo, sometimes its good and you just need to chill/turn your brain off by having the music equivalent of a glass of water

[@PsychowarBM]

2:44 when I saw Gutalax in your video my patriotic Czech heart melted

[@bendingstars]

it's just like with scowl, they have become more accessible as of recent with the release of opening night and psychic dance routine (both the song and ep). but what is really cool is that they didn't stray from hardcore although they experimented with alt rock. it's really interesting to see their crowds now are a mix of hardcore kids and people who just like their music but aren't really into hardcore. you can easily tell which is which and that is a fun game to play

[@tomie3365]

Man the worst thing is when you're favorite band is so good but then goes in a new direction just to get a song to top charts and that's all they make music for now

[@gracieturner2491]

You’re so right about KL. As a Kentuckian it truly is insane to see them come so far😭 I was scared their sound would change once they started blowing up but I’m so proud to see them being them and killing it while they do it man.

[@CreatureFeatureProd]

Jesus the whiplash I just got from that super casual reference to Kilby Court, no idea you were a Utah boy!

[@prawduhgee8834]

Thanks for introducing me to UOK. Halfway through you video I stopped to listen to the Tarzan EP. I loved the mix of noise and musicality. Harsh sounds tickle my brain in just the right ways.

[@PeMeYo]

Really interesting and thought-provoking topic, I think for me and many others who listen to music a lot the accessibility in music comes from new and fun musical ideas in music.

[@nic.plesko]

This is literally a debate I had in my timbre class. Very interesting and I love the objective lens you had

[@CruxalYT]

best yt channel best editing best everything

[@alex11v3]

I find it funny your points about ambient and noise music, because they are literally the different sides of the same coin. Its like noise music is the goth sister from the christian and peaceful ambient sister. For me noise music can be as relaxing or as mezmerising as ambient music.