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@M3plusYOU9 ай бұрын
Um, based??
@elsa90269 ай бұрын
Morj, ever heard of tartaria? thats an amazing theory you gotta check out! many people talk about it on youtube
@griswo32729 ай бұрын
I wonder if morj gets extra money for doing all these classy shots
@Coolgamer..9 ай бұрын
Blackbread has the potential to be the final villain of One Piece. I'm intrigued by his character and plan. I hope his goal ends up being interesting and unique. 🌎
@imthe_catgod9 ай бұрын
@@griswo3272off course yes
@calvinnguyen18709 ай бұрын
In *just this arc* Blackbeard has gotten: -Law’s Road Poneglyph rubbings -Pudding, who can read them -Garp as leverage against the WG -A crewmember being able to impersonate a gorosei -Caribou, with knowledge of TWO ancient weapons This guy is an absolute menace. Not even Luffy has ever done this much in just one arc.
@Cc-ew9oh9 ай бұрын
Pudding can’t read them
@RaffyDGoat9 ай бұрын
@@Cc-ew9oh probably can now
@harmen989 ай бұрын
@@Cc-ew9ohIt depends. We don’t know what can awaken it, but it might’ve awakened during WCI or afterwards.
@asdf07479 ай бұрын
@@RaffyDGoat its not definite, and Roger needed Oden to actually decipher what the road islands were
@derrickmiles52409 ай бұрын
He also lost Koby and Moria (most likely) so that balances it out a little.
@trehubb61449 ай бұрын
Blackbeard sneaking into Mariejois is top tier planning. Imagine if they take it over at one point. I feel we also gotta remember the Celestial Dragons are still on lockdown due to the Revs. Now imagine if a Quake man and a Island Human(Avalo) sneak into the Holy Land. Imagine Avalo fusing with the Red Line 😮
@scribalma_h9 ай бұрын
It could be a way to showcase the Holy Knights in full action but after Sabos' infiltration I doubt that they will not have their guard up. And I don't think BB will attempt to conquer Mariejois or "the world" before reaching Laugh Tale. Catarina's mission will simple be to manipulate from within and achieve something in favour of BB before being caught.
@radaro.96829 ай бұрын
Well, Avalo only matters if the Red Line counts as an island.
@alvirhasan75139 ай бұрын
Gods knight exist
@saeedabdo20839 ай бұрын
@@radaro.9682 Well, Nami said that the Red Line is basically a collection of islands with different climates
@samuellaakso70129 ай бұрын
Think about this In the last chapters of pre-timeskip, Avallo told BB to make him a captain, to which Laffitte says does he have a deathwish on him. Now, if Avallo can fuse with Red Line, what stops him to try to became captain again? Or even better, the King of the world? What stops him from trying to betray Teach? Answer is simple. His Devil Fruits. I dont think it's impossible to break parts of the Red Line with eartquakes, now that Teach is stronger and more experienced with his Devil Fruits. And if that doensnt work, he always have the Yami Yami no mis df-canceling power. It's really telling of their groupdynamics when they have really overpowered DF's, but Blackbeard still has a way to keep them in line.
@mosdeaf9 ай бұрын
The best part about Blackbeard is that we the readers view him the same way the rest of the world views Luffy. And he now recruited an admiral to his side after Luffy gained a warlord. And now he has his own fan in Caribou. All thats left to highlight is the difference in growth.
@ocelotlove9 ай бұрын
Now the strawhats just have to recruit Kizaru to even the odds lol
@mosdeaf9 ай бұрын
@@ocelotlove Assuming we get an admiral, I'd rather Fujitora join. Without much justification. Let Kizaru remain a pawn like Bellamy until the final war. And we get the badass swordsman with GRAVITY that already likes Luffy. Peak fiction. Raftel in space confirmed.
@extremelynoobgaming47429 ай бұрын
@@mosdeafI think enel already conquered laughtale with his moon army
@KittSpiken9 ай бұрын
Observation haki is not the reason I'm incredulous about the Gorosei not sussing out Devon Saturn, it's that Saturn has been working closely with the other 4 elders for decades if not centuries. Previous examples of clone impersonation are the top of a sovereign hierarchy fooling their subjects or momentarily tricking a close relation before a sneak attack. Not that this doesn't fit, only that it if it the case, it need handled with care. The Gorosei could look very smooth brained not seeing through her performance that seemingly would be entirely based off one brief conversation.
@LoudWaffle9 ай бұрын
Yeah that's why I think the Saturn impersonation is most noteworthy for giving Blackbeard control over the Seraphim. Also since we know characters don't die, I really can't imagine Saturn just being taken completely out on Egghead to the point that he could be impersonated and nobody ever finds the original.
@bigt1009 ай бұрын
Exactly they'd look even more stupid if they don't notice it's her
@bigt1009 ай бұрын
@@LoudWafflenow that makes sense!!
@snowwhite14949 ай бұрын
the "mythical" upgrade part of her fruit could be that it doesnt just replicate looks, but also give Devon the memories and ability to recreate mannerisms too
@LoudWaffle9 ай бұрын
@@snowwhite1494 Not saying that isn't possible - but the mythical part just means she has the magical transformation powers, instead of only being able to turn into a regular fox. Just like Marco's fruit being mythical just means he has the fire and regeneration powers instead of only being a bird.
@wisdommanari67019 ай бұрын
Morj on God I hope you marry a profession chef. Your hatred of cooking is legendary
@BaraeSnoussi9 ай бұрын
fr
@ReddSquall9 ай бұрын
Everytime I see one of those Factor ads I chuckle at the fact that they're probably sponsoring Morj because there's a disproportionate amount of fatties that watch his videos. After that I order Popeyes for the third time this week and cry myself to sleep.
@Problemsolver4349 ай бұрын
Made me laugh 😂
@uglykgb9 ай бұрын
ong i know bro cannot cook
@PER5789 ай бұрын
I have seen that sponsor too many times
@ClanDWoolz9 ай бұрын
If Luffy takes care of 1 of BB's goals, im going to assume Van Auger is the one who fed Luffy.
@ocelotlove9 ай бұрын
oh snap that's a good theory
@userusernomi9 ай бұрын
I was just thinking how weird it was that they just decided to leave instead of helping finish off Saturn, if that's supposed to be their plan. This would count as help and so I'm 100% on board with it.
@thetruth997_9 ай бұрын
I still feel like it was Kizaru which would 100% mean that Kizaru is holding back and doesn’t wanna do this mission lol
@theluigifan19 ай бұрын
Blackbeard’s entire MO is “Work smarter, not harder.”
@CognitiveDissonance059 ай бұрын
Van Augur telling Saturn Blackbeard’s ultimate plan is pretty much the biggest death flag for Saturn. Gonna be disappointed if he doesn’t die in this arc.
@Sirius23769 ай бұрын
Augur and Devon are about to leave the island tho. They would be stupid to just bet on the straw hats killing Saturn.
@MuttonErase2 күн бұрын
Well he did die
@MarianaBello-fq3hx9 ай бұрын
If the plan gets to happen off-scree you know he is going to win.
@Mantosasto9 ай бұрын
What doesn't work for me in Katarina impersonating Saturn in that way is that the old fart should have a vast worth of knowledge that she simply wouldn't have. The five crapolds start talking and she's out of her depth immediately. I don't see how they wouldn't notice without Oda's help.
@divinebanana97829 ай бұрын
I think that's where her mythical fruit comes in help.. so far whatever we saw makes it no different than bon clays clone clone fruit.. for oda to justify the mythical zoan part of the fruit oda would maybe introduce another ability that would allow her to gain knowledge of the person user is impersonating...
@bishopofeternity489 ай бұрын
Pudding.
@jasonmatthews529 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, Katarina's fruit is a mythical zoan, way above the likes of Bon Clay's. It's possible that the nine-tails fruit allows the user to perfectly impersonate others. Not just mimicking their appearance, but also their memories, speech patterns, mannerisms etc.
@Mantosasto9 ай бұрын
@@jasonmatthews52 Yes, but that would be a whole different can of worms. We would get a character to know, presumably, the void century and all the secrets of the world without the poneglyphs or finding the One Piece or anything.
@zakirauf92449 ай бұрын
Also it would be really dumb for the WG to invite blackbeard to mariejois even if they make him a king
@MiguelAngel-jz7vo9 ай бұрын
The only but i have with this theory is that BB pirates arrived to Egghead before the marines fleet arrived , so they were there before Saturn was confirmed. So, this was an improvisation, they wanted anyone with enough authority to supplant, or they had intel that a gorosei would arrive to the island
@sagecoder88029 ай бұрын
Indeed. Garp alone is enough to bargain with. If no intel, then Devone and Augar were most probably there for powerups or Vegapunk.
@scribalma_h9 ай бұрын
After the Revolutionary's infiltration, Sabo having info of Imu's existence and Vivi escaping I doubt that Imu and the Gorosei will have their guard down enough for BB to pull off an assassination attempt. Imu has BB on his list so, if anything, if he was to be let into Mariejois somehow and for some reason because the Reverie already happened, the one that's in danger of being killed is BB himself.
@dreambokek9 ай бұрын
I agree they might actually let him get in to assassinate him but BB would expect this and maybe kick their butt? Not sure it all depends.
@blacc_rain81249 ай бұрын
Blackbeard is way too smart for that. I'm just going to sit back and let my captain cook
@galaxyvita20459 ай бұрын
Even better we saw that Saturn just stayed on his room all alone when going to egghead.
@acetofresh19 ай бұрын
Very interesting that part of Blackbeard’s story arc has been being a man from the sheer bottom of society achieving social mobility to the top through any means necessary. Through kindness, through subterfuge, through state power.
@austinharris92909 ай бұрын
Its proof that Blackbeard as a genius is not to be underestimated
@JoyBoyTheories9 ай бұрын
Personally I don't find this theory very satisfying - You have a devised a convoluted way for Blackbeard to be made a king, but it presumes Devon has the capacity to not only impersonate a Gorosei's appearance, but also their personality/knowledge. My gut feeling is if the gorosei are duped so easily it would feel contrived. - The gorosei should be aware of Devon's powers, and this make all of this feel even more contrived, especially when Saturn starts suddenly advocating for him - Even if Blackbeard is made a king, it is very unlikely the Gorosei will trust him, and "access" to marie geoise even if granted would be questionably advantageous. Blackbeard showing up would certainly be red alert. - And I also question the timeline here, for Blackbeard to become a regular king and having the time to somehow utilize that, while also having a purpose for the poneglyphs IMO Blackbeard will do something else with Devon's power
@poenpotzu28659 ай бұрын
I think Blackbeard is going for a gamble here. The gorosei fall for it he gets access, they don't he can still use the face of Saturn to his politcal advantage.
@mokaljordan9 ай бұрын
Preach JB, perhaps Caterina touching was a bonus to the mission as they originally came to egghead to impersonate someone else and probaly then some. What if Blackbeard not only uses saturns image as another bargaining chip but as a means to lure the burn scar man out since it seems that they was gonna impersonate vegapunk first to deceive someone with, the BBP may have learned a connection between vegapunk, the gorosei and the burn scar man
@ThePenguin18128 ай бұрын
This is more plausible (and also more interesting) than you may realize. Akainu. There is NO way he's letting this slide. This would ABSOLUTELY be the tipping point he's needed to just go absolutely ballistic. Certainly he would know that fighting head on would be suicide - and perhaps that is effectively what he would be fine with committing when the government he spent his life's work for ends up in the hands of a pirate. ESPECIALLY one that is as textbook evil as Blackbeard. It could also easily set up akainu as ANOTHER admiral And obviously, the death of the fleet admiral at a time like this could EASILY be the event needed to really jumpstart the downfall of the world government. Especially with Kizaru turning coat to the strawhats. Greenbull is already corrupt at his core - a person (arguably) equally as dirty as blackbeard - so he poses no real threat to his plan. Even if he did, he stands ZERO chance against the gura gura let alone the yomi yomi. Certainly, he would side with blackbeard at a point. Blackbeard killing akainu is actually more fitting because it could easily lead to an iconic panel of akainu dying in the same way akainu killed whitebeard. With two BLACK HOLES in his chest. And beyond this, they are woven from the same cloth. They are equally driven - in opposing directions. It's also quite fitting that BB has the quake fruit as well as earthquakes are often associated with volcanic eruptions. Perhaps the fight between the magi magi and the gura gura is fated to happen regardless of who eats either fruit at any time.
@amartinez979 ай бұрын
I can see Blackbeard making it all the way to Imu and getting immediately humbled in a Magellan 2.0 situation
@clydu919 ай бұрын
if Imu can fodderize a Yonkou why would the 3 powers even be needed
@sivanandkalita25639 ай бұрын
Imu simply wants to hide his identity to prevent chaos. By hiding his identity he is creating an illusion of freedom. If he didn't do this then he would have to constantly fight people for 800 years no matter how strong he is@@clydu91
@timurjack87739 ай бұрын
That was because Teach underestimated Magellan as Shiryu said, and poison in One Piece can one-shot people with high durability as we see Jack and Yeti brothers one-shotting Zoro and Inu/Neko with poison. While you can sah Teach even also underestimated WB, but still even WB that KOed Akainu with 2 hits, couldn't KO Teach with 2 hits.
@MarshallDTeach-ee3ip9 ай бұрын
This shit sounds stupid af
@simonromer58899 ай бұрын
@@clydu91well imu is the secret King of the World, o e is not really a secret if they walk around and kill pirates, the gorosei also didnt really fight in their true form all that often
@nyshyn3079 ай бұрын
11:35 I think observation is less of an "activation" and more like Spider Sense. As it is primarily meant to protect the user from harm it's easy to fool if nothing is threatening you and you're unaware that there's something to be looking for. This is why Carrot snuck onto the Straw Hat's ship easily, Blackbeard snuck an entire crew with a ship into Marineford's battle of elites, and Katakuri didn't know there was a mob watching and assisting him while he fought Luffy: all those actions had no innate harm to any of the subjects involved
@jukaa10129 ай бұрын
nope
@taichimokubaful9 ай бұрын
Sanji could sense a woman being attacked on the other side of Onigashima but not that the woman was actually baiting him into a trap😐 and he's VERY GOOD in observation Haki. How's that "Spider Sense"?
@LoudWaffle9 ай бұрын
Or it's just something that is consciously activated (except for Katakuri and Fujitora) like the manga directly states. 🤔
@Ateliera7769 ай бұрын
Crazy how one piece fans dont even read the story
@nyshyn3079 ай бұрын
@taichimokubaful 1) I was talking in general, and you pulled up a specific character example. Exceptions wouldn't really go against this because the basic observation haki seems to fit that rule of thumb best. Future sight and Fujitora/Issho are clearly on a different tier of observation haki for example so obviously those go beyond what the standard is 2) It's been said by the manga that Sanji honed his observation to detect women better while he was stranded on Kamabakka. It's not a good explanation in my eyes, Oda likely just did that to add another element to his obsession with women, but regardless it is the given reason. Oda also stated in a Vol 71 SBS that Sanji's specialty is in observation out of the 3 haki styles so it makes sense that his is attuned in a way other users' observation isn't, similar to the aforementioned Fujitora who can do outlandish things like "see" the weather and clouds despite being blind 3) We were also told that emotions heavily tie into observation haki. Writing convenience or not Sanji is amazing at observation but was hit by bullets while fleeing from Queen on Onigashima because he was having a moment. Luffy could see the future but was so riled up that he didn't sense he was about to be one shot. Observation haki has many flaws even among "expert users"
@Problemsolver4349 ай бұрын
I think it'll be hard to Devon to act and respond exactly like Saturn without accessing his knowledge. You can't just fake that for long
@Nortrodamas9 ай бұрын
And just watch when they explain that her DFA allows her to have their knowledge as long as she is them.
@bigt1009 ай бұрын
@@Nortrodamasthat would be fire
@KayDSavage-dy6of9 ай бұрын
@@bigt100no not really. cuz if she did she'd know waaay too much for a character that we'll barely see during the final battle. regardless of the knowledge she can't mimic strength
@dylanphelan30109 ай бұрын
maybe they can use Pudding for that
@rockstar-made9 ай бұрын
@@KayDSavage-dy6of I don't see how her knowing a lot is a negative when eventually Blackbeard will know the exact same information lol
@TitanBait9 ай бұрын
I don't think impersonating Saturn would work with Imu and the other Gorosei, not because of observation Haki, but just because I would think after 800 years they would know each other other pretty well. Impersonation could definitely get them in the door but any extended stay would definitely make them suspicious. They would know that there are at least 2 Devil fruits that allow someone to impersonate others, one of them being Catarina, one of most dangerous pirates on a Yonko's crew. Maybe she could trick them for a single meeting but what does she do after that? Just leave and then Saturn is MIA? Does she stay there for days, astronomically increasing the risk of them realizing Saturn is not behaving normally? Unless her power gives you the memories, personalities, and or powers of who they impersonate, I don't know how this could really pan out. She MIGHT be able to copy the powers of the person she copies just because she showed curiosity in Saturn's, but even still. I don't think the top 5 people in the world would fall for the "oh i forgot what we talked about in our last 800 years of meetings, can you remind me?"
@curtisjackson40909 ай бұрын
This is exactly it. I commented the same thing... unless memories and personality are also copied with the Ninetails df, the Copy won't go that far at all
@TitanBait9 ай бұрын
@@curtisjackson4090 Yeah, that seemed like a pretty big flaw that I'm not sure why Morj didn't address. I think they are going to use Saturn's likeness to cause mass confusion and enter government facilities. Very "in the moment" kind of usage rather than a long-term plan like getting them to agree to let him be King. He kind of was already king of the pirate island. His ambitions have moved past control over a single island or people as we've seen in this last chapter.
@scribalma_h9 ай бұрын
It's not even clear if Saturn holds that much of a weight among the elders for his sole opinion to make the rest of them agree on making BB an official king. If anything, him suggesting it and insisting on it would be the very thing that would expose Catarina @@TitanBait
@assasinsjeff3 ай бұрын
There’s a thing where Blackbeard is completely contradictory. Like he shows immense courage and trepidation, is special(polar opposite) in a lineage which is already special, rides on the smallest ship(buncha logs) and the largest battleship(San Juan Wolf), and has three personalities and hurt shanks(one of the strongest) at his weakest, and has the biggest dream even though he doesn’t sleep. Also I’m thinking a devil fruit ate Blackbeard instead of a person eating a DF. I don’t think the void century and the ancient kingdom or joy boy and indeed the one piece world as a whole has seen a character like Blackbeard before. He probably never inherited anyone’s will although the series is always been about inheriting the will of others.
@iurypadilha9 ай бұрын
By the last chapter Catarina complaint about them not being off the island already, the plan isn't to take Saturn's place right here, right now. They may even use Saturn's appearance to take information from Garp.
@Jiver8 ай бұрын
oda bringing saturns buddies destroying this wonderful theory
@salam69262 ай бұрын
nope, its still hold☠️
@Aaaa-gs7ww9 ай бұрын
considering lafitte's introduction to the story was sneaking into marie geois I feel like the reason he wants a country has to be for something more ambitious than just gaining access to the holy land, with van augur now if his goal is to infiltrate and kill imu he's more than equipped already
@alexandruandros12719 ай бұрын
While this is more speculative, I find it hard to believe that the nine-tail fox fruit and the clone-clone fruit will work in the exact same way ability-wise, I'd imagine the nine-tail fox is more powerful due to being a mythical zoan. So what if the fox fruit also allows you to change the appearance of other people? In which case Blackbeard can take a significant shortcut and just turn himself into Saturn
@ianprivett92109 ай бұрын
While there's a lot of focus on Katarina impersonating Saturn for politics, let's also not forget that the Gorosei are also the top authority for all of the Pacifistas/Seraphim (excluding Bonnie). Is Blackbeard going to have the WG come to rescue Garp only to have their Pacifistas/Seraphims turn on them via Katarina's Saturn transformation taking authority?
@OtakuTalkOD9 ай бұрын
Good video but i think it's hilarious we just jump right to them knowing Saturn is an imposter because of observation haki and not simply hey Saturn acting different and does not know high level information and protocol.
@yukijadenfilms34259 ай бұрын
I’m 10000% sure that no matter what Imu will kill off Katarina later into the story and just to pretend to think that she’s Saturn.
@emmanuelajayi13088 ай бұрын
Latest chapter seems to have confirmed the elder stars can communicate telepathically. Therefore Katerina would not be able to successfully fool the others.
@hassy49699 ай бұрын
Thematically this is perfect too. Luffy's actions have also strangely aided BB everytime i feel like, making it a correct parallel.
@samuellaakso70129 ай бұрын
Imagine the size of the bargaining chips BB's going to have once Caribou tells him his knowledge on the Ancient Weapons. If he still needs them at this point.
@shorii29519 ай бұрын
Theres one thing that doesnt make sense for this theory. Why does Blackbeard need Garp, when he could just use Saturn (Devon) as a Pawn for negotiating? If Saturn dies on Egghead, but nobody from the government knows, then he could just claim that he rescued/captured him, to use the disguised Devon as a pawn why simultaneously getting her into the inner circle. Also why did they claim the mission to be complete, when saturn isnt even defeated yet? Why count on luffy to beat saturn, when they could stay around, to make sure he dies.
@djacks2479 ай бұрын
The Saturn thing was a lucky coincidence that was not part of the plab
@arunrana98879 ай бұрын
As always, your theory certainly makes a valid argument which could happen in the future. But while watching the video, I had another thought which represent an alternate viewpoint. Assume the blackbeard is able to infiltrate the WG but eventually, Gorosei and Imu figures it out and Kill him, assuming by the time BB is already well know than what he currently is. In that case, it would be proved how WGs and Imu survived the 800 years so far reigning on the top. This will also make them a formidable enemy which would question how would luffy face them and what the strawhats will do. This is just a theory ofc, as I also feel BB eventually needs to be defeated by Luffy and not anybody else and I also agree with your point in the video, but what if everything I wrote above turns out to be true, but I too feel that would be highly unlikely. (Also, this is the longest comment by me on any video so far and also validates my one of the earlier comments on your video Mr. Morj where I said that yours is the only channel with most of the comments being the longest comments). Thank you for reading, everyone who did.
@unnamedshadow18669 ай бұрын
Imu is using Observation Haki all the time. Its why he's such a Godlike Being to the Celestial Dragons. In fact it will play part of why he betrayed Joyboy. He knew he would betray him all along. But most important his Observation Haki is not perfect, it shows what he wants. Which is why everything he has planned was for his Great Plan. He can see far into the future and even alternate futures, and all this time everything he has done was to ensure that Alternate Future is the one that becomes the True Future. Its why everyone is irrelevant for him. So long as that Goal is reached. He is haunted by how Good his Observation Haki is, so good that it can see specific parts of alternate futures.
@adoniscreed40319 ай бұрын
I never thought about it, but if the Marines capturing Roger and executing him was a world changing event, Black Beard capturing and executing Garp would be an event on the same level but on the opposite direction. The WG can't afford to let this happen.
@clay_freespirit9 ай бұрын
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@andreiapetrei16059 ай бұрын
I mean if they do take over Marijois, Avalo then can become the Red Line with his Devil fruit, that would actually be insane. Circling back at what the giants said about a ‘giant snake soaked in blood’ that surrounds the planet.
@damnbruh76129 ай бұрын
Personally, I think that Blackbeard aim is to control the seraphim with Devon, not to sneak into Mariejois. After touching Saturn, Auger and Devon said that this was an unforeseen blessing and even better than their original goal. I believe that their original goal was for Devon to touch Vegapunk in order to control the Seraphim, since they didn't assume a Gorosei was going to make an appearance. And because Saturn is even higher than Vegapunk on the hierarchy, it's even better for the BB Pirates since no one would be able to take away control of the Seraphim.
@jtthomas73499 ай бұрын
I have a theory that Teach and Dragon cut a deal to work together to take down the Celestial dragons when they met and probably fought at Baltigo. We've heard next to nothing in like 300 chapters since that conflict. It would fit both Teach and Dragon's master planner character traits. And as a pirate and Rev they don't have any natural conflict. It would be cool to see all the will of D boys take down Imu together then battle it out after.
@ironboy899 ай бұрын
That would be sick.
@derrickmiles52409 ай бұрын
Too many holes in this theory. First, BB had no way of knowing Saturn would be there. Thus it's likely their original target was someone reported to be on the island. Second, this plan does not account for Saturn living. The plan needs to work regardless of the outcome here. You were so close Morj. BB had an agent on Doflamingo's island. He knows Doffy had blackmail info on the WG. From BBs perspective it's reasonable to assume that Doffy, confronted with a Gorosei or an ASSASSIN, would raise the matter of his blackmail in an attempt to barter for his life. Doffy is cut off from info so it doesn't matter if their target dies. That gives BB the same leverage Doffy had, as well as setting up his play for the empty throne.
@sub.sa.30589 ай бұрын
Garp's capture's importance will either be off screened, or shown later, maybe in Elbaf, in the side like in egghead. And things will get more and more chaotic.
@BraceDecades9 ай бұрын
I feel like Imu and the Gorosei would notice the switch anyway, Observation or not. These men have lived together literal centuries and probably seen a lot weirder things than impersonation and doppelgangers. But that still doesn't mean they can do anything about it. It'd be some really big egg on their face if the truth came out. So they'd be forced to play along, at least for a while.
@curtisjackson40909 ай бұрын
Lol facts.... It would literally be like the Body Snatchers trope in films. People that are close with the individual will KNOW something is wrong. Unless the 9 tails also copies the person's personal/ memories.... it really won't fool ppl that actually know them for that long
@KayDSavage-dy6of9 ай бұрын
and we know she can't mimic strength cuz she would've done it sooner. cuz why would she nor touch law or even Jesus burgess if she could mimic powers or strength..hell they could've had boas powers by now.
@userusernomi9 ай бұрын
@@curtisjackson4090 if it doesn't allow something like a full personality copy along with memories and everything, I don't see how it would be different than Bon Clay's fruit. Unless Oda just literally created a copy fruit with a different name because he didn't wanna kill Bon Clay. I really hope this fruit's ability goes beyond just a body copy.
@poutineausyropderable71089 ай бұрын
@@curtisjackson4090 If it copies memories, then that by itself is gonna be worth everything. Having access to all the knowledge a gorosei keeps hidden, that's a bigger chip then anything else. Especially to make a plan of attack.
@bishopofeternity489 ай бұрын
They have Pudding. In addition to memories, think of all the juicy secrets they can steal.
@ryanarmani30829 ай бұрын
Honestly if we stick with the 3 devil fruit theory, and expect the gorosei (or even Imu) to have mythical zoans, it would be series-defining to have BB take Imu’s devil fruit now that he has access to Imu. BB would have the strongest fruits from each category, and it would pin Luffy against the strongest foe possible
@TheMrstevewalker9 ай бұрын
My only problem with this theory is that you’re assuming the other Gorosei and Imu don’t have Vivre Cards. So I don’t think the real Saturn can die and Catarina be able to fool the other Gorosei and Imu. Unless her fruit gives her all his memories and Abilities it would be trash if they fell for that BS after living 900 years
@zaryabK-vi8fh9 ай бұрын
true but the fruit being mythical might be for this reason that it can not only copy someone but also get their memories else it's just bon clays fruit
@sunwukong55189 ай бұрын
@@zaryabK-vi8fhSo the BB Pirates basically know all about the Void Century now?
@bishopofeternity489 ай бұрын
Why would they have vivre cards?
@sunwukong55189 ай бұрын
@@bishopofeternity48 Why not? They are the most important public figures
@keepinitrealdio9 ай бұрын
@@sunwukong5518blackbeard has always been ahead of everyone in the supernova, wouldnt be surprised if he got to know all that and more and we even get an arc or two with Blackbeard (maybe with Imu as co-king/queen) ruling the world
@KayDSavage-dy6of9 ай бұрын
the one thing we havent considered is saturn being the bargaining chip
@whimzycloud9 ай бұрын
Devon impersonating Saturn should give her control over the Seraphim
@bryanatbay56389 ай бұрын
Black beard plan only works if Morgan does not print the news that Saturn was defeated because if they do, then the gorosei would know Saturn was defeated
@extremelynoobgaming47429 ай бұрын
The gorosei wasn't even his plan, it was just sheer luck
@ezeqeel83529 ай бұрын
But Gorosei are in some way internally linked. Can't just take one out and send a mimic in there without them knowing.
@pokeminer84009 ай бұрын
Do we know if Blackbeard knows about Imu? As far as I remember the only people who we have confirmed knowledge of Imu's existence is The Gorosei, Sabo/The Heads of the Revolutionary Army, Vivi, and Wapol?
@retrohanska44418 ай бұрын
Boy did this immediately not age well. But to be fair, absolutely nobody expected Oda to escalate the conflict from both sides the way he did.
@wholelottawhale41038 ай бұрын
Literally one week and then this theory becomes a million times harder to make happen lolll😂
@Buraak973 ай бұрын
And now 5 months later, the theory is strong again. saturn is is alone on the island seperated von everyone else. He could ger swapped without anyone realizing it
@CowboySlingingАй бұрын
And 7 months later saturns dead and replaced by a god knight meaning the world government is readying for war so i dont think it will go how blackbeard thinks unless he really wants an all out war to start by capturing garp but could also be a set up for luffy and kolby versus blackbeard which would be dope
@derpderpson87969 ай бұрын
I wonder what was the BB Pirates actual goal on Egghead. I think it has to do something with Vegapunk or the Seraphim, Saturn landing there gave them a fortune shortcut though.
@BrolyPowerMaximum9 ай бұрын
10:45 it’s not just thanks to Luffy that they get to mimic Saturn, it’s also thanks to the StrawHats Blackbeard is going to know about the ancient weapon locations, … and thanks to them that Fishmen Island will be attacked.
@steezmac7329 ай бұрын
I don’t think Observation Haki can always be used to determine is someone is a phony or not. It’s more about foresight and reading intentions. I’m sure some characters would be able see things others can’t with observation though.
@Arkayjiya9 ай бұрын
this. it's not even that you don't constantly use it, it's also that it doesn't necessarily allow you to identify someone.
@KellyClowers9 ай бұрын
And that kid on Skypeia... she had always on observation haki, but seems to have been straight up born with it
@rangalang96699 ай бұрын
Where does finding the One Piece fit into Blackbeard's plan? Maybe that's necessary either to kill Imu or for what comes after killing Imu?
@jaegerjaqueztv2339 ай бұрын
BB can possibly control seraphim now via devon (saturn appearance). "Mission Completed" maybe bcuz the real reason they went to egghead is to get that command authority for seraphim by copying vegapunk. And since saturn is there it make "easier" for them to complete that mission. 💀
@Fireywhiteboi9 ай бұрын
Blackbeard walking into Marisjois with Shanks head 😭😭😭
@GreenHotDogz9 ай бұрын
Yea right 😂 basically saying Shanks haki loses against someone with Devil fruit dependency
@DiavoloEmperorOfFate9 ай бұрын
You did *NOT* cook but, it is indeed BLACKBEARD’S ERA!
@Ray_D_Tutto9 ай бұрын
Maybe Blackbeard has someone he wants to unpetrify (Boa Hancock could have lied about previous users being unable to). He won't need Hancock if he has S-Snake under his command via Caterina Devon posing as a Gorosei.
@wholelottawhale41038 ай бұрын
This aged like the finest milk in the world LOL
@luffyjam9 ай бұрын
Don't forget that Pudding can see ppl's memories.
@persononinternet78689 ай бұрын
No one talking about how devina (the 9 tails fox user) might have touched garp meaning she has his appearance and a goresei's appearence
@frodobaggins64509 ай бұрын
Pre time-skip Lafitte flew up to Mariejois, Sabo Literally just took the lift. You’re telling me that BB need to do all that stuff just to get high up on a mountain?
@TwilightNK9 ай бұрын
The way my jaw dropped at 7:45 when it clicked in my head where this theory was going 😭
@boxertest9 ай бұрын
Something tells me IM isn't blind and has a whole other level of observation haki stemming from the eternal youth surgery everytime you see IM's eyes it effin on!, Catarina will fool the other Elders but not IM and she will die telling Teach the world actually has a King already. I say this because Oda is not a sh!t writer, IM is effin final boss, Blackbeard get slaughtered by IM before Luffy and IM square off. IM has been around for 1000 years, think of the level and skill of haki in their possession not to mention IM doesn't even regard themself as human, when the Elders all transformed into demons IM's form dwarfed all the others. Teach will die at IM hands before IM squares off against Luffy.
@St33ldancer9 ай бұрын
My only question is this: if he wants to aim for being the king of the world, why is he still invested in the race for Pirate King? It would seem to me that the One Piece, whatever it is, would be less valuable than the throne of the world. Yet, blackbeard is still very much interested in it. That would imply that the one piece is somehow relevant to this whole plan of his, and maybe he knows something about it.
@sfxdlwsrs9 ай бұрын
Maybe Katarina poses as Saturn in chains for the Gorousei to see
@CaptainPieBeard8 ай бұрын
That seems the most plausible.
@GeorgeMesaros8 ай бұрын
On observation haki: as I understand it the basic application is letting you see that somebody is there, like knowing how many enemies there are and where they are + in a fight you get to read the oponent's moves. I'm not sure it's stated anywhere you can figure out somebody's identity through observation haki. That means it's reasonable to assume observation haki is as vulnerable as regular sight when it comes to imitating appearance
@TheKrigeron9 ай бұрын
MOOOORJ you speedreader. Saturn being there was dortuitous but that wasn't their objective at first. They came there for another mission and saw a shortcut by finding Saturn there, impersonating a Gorosei would be improvisation.
@alaye55839 ай бұрын
Imagine if Devon’s df gives her access to memories
@TheBlueBlur1009 ай бұрын
They already have Pudding for that
@sunwukong55189 ай бұрын
No it would be dumb. If that werenthe case the BB pirates would know about the Void Century
@Gluffy-G9 ай бұрын
Devon tapped Saturn in his beast form... Does that mean she can transform into his 'human' form as well, or only beast mode?
@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm99269 ай бұрын
shanks is walking around using conquerors haki all the time
@georgez27029 ай бұрын
He turns it on and off genius
@DailyDancehall8763 ай бұрын
This is a spot on theory on Blackbeard's timeline Morj and i think his character complex gives us more insight into his role in the story as a final villain; Both he and luffy have a dream to become King (of the world- Teach & of the pirates- Luffy). Whereas Luffy represents liberation from oppression mirrored by his Pirate King ambition, Teach represents oppression with his King of the World ambition - Oda has hinted to us that he is the exact opposite of Luffy in his introduction. Thats why instead of killing Imu, he may take his powers including that which sustains the theorized artificial Red Line and his role as King.
@kristianpe13628 ай бұрын
but then just a chapter later, the rest of the gorosei are summoned to egghead hence invalidating this full effort video just as fast as it was published lol
@bradybus20978 ай бұрын
The brave risktaking of a one piece theory youtuber
@blakex26999 ай бұрын
i got to save this to watch later but thank you for making this video. i always said blackbeard was my favorite villain next to azula from avatar the last Airbender. and the fact oda mentioned his hobbies are studying history make so much sense. his planning ability while not perfect as shown when Magellan literally almost kill him. it still impressive.. he plan his rise to power since being on wb ship. his break in of impel down. how he stole wb power then all his territory was genius..
@musticlas8 ай бұрын
1) The Gorosei might not grant BB's wish to become a king in exchange for Garp. This would be possible if BB captured Garp in secret, but now all the pirates on Hachinosu will spread rumors of Garps defeat. So granting BB king status in exchange for Garp won't save face at all, which is the main reason they'd consider it in the first place. 2)But now the question is, will Katarina's "mimic" ability allow her to communicate telepathically with the Gorosei as well? Because if yes, she can listen in on their communications, if no then the gorosei will discover her deception. 3) ALSO, Kat isn't always using future sight though. If he can't maintain calmness he can't use FS. With this alone it seems like he's not on Shanks or Kaido's level of observation, or probably even nowhere near. More like slightly above noob level of FS
@Tyrael969 ай бұрын
OR... his crewmates where going to egghead because he wanted something from vegapunk to get controle over the seraphim. This makes much more sense because blackbeard had no idea that a fu***ng gorosei would set foot there. He didnt even know where strawhat would travel proven by his fight against law when he said that one of the 3 (luffy, law, kid) would come in his direction. In no reality blackbeard planned all this given his lack of information about the egghead situation. Sorry morj, but this theory makes 0 sense concidering the facts
@hamoudaxp979 ай бұрын
This makes sense! Maybe Catharina's fruit allows here to, not only impersonate others with contact, but she can also get access to their personnality/memories. That would make here inflitration make sense, and Blackbeard would also know the whearabouts of Uranus and Imu (supposing that Uranus is in Marijoie), and many other things.
@jazzyprince33359 ай бұрын
I’ve been anticipating this theory since your 1107 stream, can’t wait to finally see what you have to say.
@7dragons7swords9 ай бұрын
Aisa also is using observation haki all the time. The other Gorousei would notice that Catarina is not Saturn in the first conversation, they know him for decades
@bishopofeternity489 ай бұрын
Pudding is the answer to that.
@kamarrawlings62859 ай бұрын
Devon better hope that Imu is not a person who doesn’t tolerate failure and kill her on the spot lol
@dvtto26469 ай бұрын
Imu will have a deal with Blackbeard. Imu probably has sapphire scales so he can’t go out in sunlight, blackbeards void fruit wakening will probably mean he can block out the sun and therefore letting Imu roam free.
@KataisTrash8 ай бұрын
Feels like copying the appearance and behavior won't be enough: the Gorosei seem to communicate telepathically. Unless that gets copied too, it seems unlikely she would fool anyone. Even worse: that means that if Saturn dies, he can tell them that he has been defeated (without anyone being around). Even if he can't, they would certainly wonder why he didn't report back telepathically if he survived (that would be the fastest and most secretive way to inform them, so any other way would seem out of place).
@555lemonade9 ай бұрын
If the gorosei are immortal, I would presume that they would quickly suspect Katirina's identity. They should all know each other pretty well even if they are just acquaintances. There could be a lot of small telltale signs that point to Saturn being a fake like maybe he sits down in the same spot every time. Also, I would presume Kizaru would leave with Saturn unless he dies or fully leaves the Marines, which I don't see, and it also looks like Katirina is leaving now, so I would guess that she isn't immediately infiltrating Marygeoise.
@NotTheWEJ9 ай бұрын
Blackbeard could just use “Saturn” as the barganing chip
@salam69262 ай бұрын
that's too severe, they will not invite him to revely next time its happen
@pharatrill85779 ай бұрын
I feel like oda named the island/arc egghead not just based on the structure. egghead is usually an insult to smart ppl. but the idea of the term “egghead” reaches more than just punk records and vegapunk. blackbeard is an evil mastermind schemer; one of the best tacticians in one piece. in my head cannon, oda titled the arc after the island’s concept specifically because of the egghead-ish ideas of blackbeard himself. this arc is to show how cunning blackbeard truly is. he went after whoever went to winner island to get their poneglyph rubbings, got redundant devil fruits for his crew mates, utilizing them to the best of their abilities to divide and conquer, captured pudding n garp n is going to become king to have easy access to mariejois. this arc is the best showing of blackbeard yet. and with caribou getting a spotlight moment as the antithesis to bartolemeo, with knowledge on the ancient weapons as well, blackbeard is sure to be an even greater force to be reckoned with. luffy isn’t set on conquering the world and is focused on his dream of freedom. if oda had written luffy as anything else, blackbeard would have been foiled a while ago. but as tensions and stakes rise, there may be a race to the ancient weapons in the foreseeable future if any straw hat appears to realize caribou’s presence as they mentioned any ancient weapons after his disappearance too. this arc is single handedly a 10/10 so far. I feel as tho he’s going to try to crush luffy’s dream further by claiming the one piece to make luffy act out of rage again and cloud his judgement during their battle.
@thatoneguywhoseverywhere69789 ай бұрын
Scary part luffy would probably be integral to the plan. Knowing luffy it's gonna be an all out war so he's gonna be the distraction so the gorosei leaves imu then the BB pirates jumps imu. Now after that the stage has been set, BB might be out numbered but there's a likelihood that BB after defeating Imu has access to the ancient weapon so the straw hats are in a pigeonhold to fight them crew to crew. I swear if the god valley incident is gonna be the foreshadow how BB and luffy's fight turns out I'm gonna flip
@xxavo_19399 ай бұрын
Even if he became a king, would they really just let him up to Mariejois without suspecting or preparing for anything? Are they stupid?
@sanomanjiro51069 ай бұрын
I think black beard has made a blunder .....he thinks the gorosei are the final word and if he's one he can manipulate the rest not knowing there is a final say....the REAL king of the world the one and only one who has a say
@JonathanScarlet9 ай бұрын
Actually, my concerns with devon impersonating Saturn would be: A.) What I presume to be VERY strong Advanced Conqueror's Haki from Saturn, while devon to my knowledge has never been shown to even have basic Conqueror's Haki. B.) devon has not yet been shown to have enough of a grasp of Saturn's personallity to essentially pass the vibe check with the other gorosei. This isn't so much about Observation Haki as it is the other four presumably knowing each other well enough to at least guess if one of them isn't who he seems, which would have nothing to do with Observation Haki. C.) Forget the Gorosei, what about Imu? Perhaps he isn't so personally knowledgeable about the Gorosei that devon could hide that aspect, but if anything like the throne room hunt for Cobra and Sabo happens before the jig is up, it'll probably be impossible for her to fully replicate his appearance, much less his abilities and super regeneration. Perhaps this doesn't have to be any longer than Blackbeard getting crowned and after that point devon can drop the act or something, but if devon can't even convince the Gorosei then this plan fall apart.
@brolybsavage9 ай бұрын
I would love for Blackbeard to be the last villain, as in Naruto I wanted it to be Madara but got a white hair space alien instead.
@barrow_34909 ай бұрын
The end of the video really tied it all together. Great theory. I hope Oda briefly explains what the BB pirate were attempting in Egghead in the first place. Perhaps, Devon was only going to impersonate Vegapunk or Kizaru to first enable Devon's access to Mary-Joe's before imprinting on a Gorosei. The unexplained happen-stance is otherwise hard to digest.
@AstroPeezy9 ай бұрын
I love how Noone realizes what makes YC1s so powerful, only being topped by their captain Katakuri- future sight mixed with fluid mochi body dodging Marco - Phoenix healing King - lunarian flame on toughness Shiryu - invisibility (but is actually very strong and cunning. Unlike absalom) Ben Beckman is said to be close to shanks, so I assume his haki is also top tier, but not as op as shanks Zoro - Conquerors haki coating, giving him insane AP
@Deode-d4h9 ай бұрын
We all thought Devon was gonna steal Robin's identity while the real Robin was kidnapped. Oda showed us he was playing chess while we were playing checkers. Man is an absolute GOAT.
@GabberGandalf939 ай бұрын
I like the idea of this sequence of events and think they will happen, however I doubt Blackbeard planned this at all. He is more of an opportunist and can improvise extremely well. He went to Amazon Lily to get Boa (or at least her fruit) He never anticipated to leave with Coby instead and especially never anticipated the Seraphim. With this knowledge he sent Van Augr and Devon to Egghead. To get hold of these new super weapons. They most likely wanted to copy Vegapunk to get control of the seraphim, but Saturn is an even better loot, since he is higher in the command hierarchy. Meanwhile BB could not have known that Cobys Imprisonment would lead to a raid from Garp. So BB got an even better bargaining chip than before. I think BB has a plan, but the story gives him even better cards right now.
@poutineausyropderable71089 ай бұрын
Imo, the fact that One Piece only has 1 Paranoid guy who use observation haki while not in obvious danger is a major writting flaw. You'd expect every strong figure to have a bit of paranoïa and make counter measure. To use observation haki to check on everything within his country once a day or something. (Because yes, they have the range for it). Even if it's taxing, its stop any invasion plan that last longer then a day. The training obsessed guy who's always using an ability. Who's paranoïd. Who makes plan. Counter plan. Measures. It's a trope for a reasons. People are legitimately like that. And strong people should be able to. Like Ace attacked Whitebeard while he slept and he knew.
@harlock15509 ай бұрын
I think it'll play out slightly differently. I think Teach ends up winning the One Piece first (later to be taken by Luffy), then he goes for the throne of the world. But I've been saying this forever. Teach is the final villain, he'll probably be the next Pirate King, and he'll be one to take out the Gorosei, imu, and the Celestial Dragons because Luffy can't kill them. The final war won't be against the WG we know, but Teachs WG.
@maslevanto9 ай бұрын
Luffy defeating Saturn and opening the way for BB to infiltrate Mary Geoise is such a good parallel to Luffy defeating Crocodile and opening the way for BB to infiltrate Impel Down
@JoshDennyAltAccount7 ай бұрын
Only issue is that the Gorosei communicate telepathically. Can Katarina replicate this ability? Otherwise everything seems to add up here
@arnowisp62447 ай бұрын
Depends on how far she can replicate abilities. Assuming it's effectively perfect than Yes.