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@koza2461 Жыл бұрын
Your scaling is bad and your reasons for it is even worse
@mennnn97219 күн бұрын
when it comes to powerscaling dont bet on morj
@kliosaw19 Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching after the chat made you change your opinion about Katakuri vs Kidd & Law, why would i watch someone who scale based on biased chat opinions? Katakuri can turn Kidd's metal to mochi which will make him useless and gets low diffed law teleport wasn't even enough to blitz Doglamingo in a 1v1 but you believe that he can keep up with a future sight user? Now about Kat's attack power, Luffy couldn't tank more than one Buzz cut mochi while he tanked a lot of Kaido's named attacks, which makes Katakuri have better AP in his tier than Kaido in his tier also Katakuri can use a trident which can one shot Law or Kidd Katakuri's durability & endurance is way better than half of the list he easily tanked a stab to the stomach that took a chunk of his body and recently we saw what happened to Sabo when he got stabbed by a smaller attack, he was fighting for his life Katakuri easily top 12 but he's underrated because of certain group that don't like him for bullying their favorite character.
@garrettgrisso8180 Жыл бұрын
for the most part i agree with everything you're saying, but a minor point of disagreement, i'm not sure that the trident would one shot law or kidd. for one, law was able to place a curtain in front of kaido's attack, so he should be able to improve his defenses ahead of an attack like that. in addition, law took multiple armament haki punches from big mom repeatedly without that defensive curtain long enough to use the puncture willie. i'm not saying that law would win, (i think it would be close), but i am saying that the trident wouldn't one shot him. as for kidd, i think the trident just wouldn't be at all useful against kidd, since he should reasonably make every attack miss (the metal point turning away from his skin at every moment), and even if he can land it, kidd got stabbed by killer (via hawkins) as well as taking a lot of damage from big mom when he was incapacitated by hawkins slamming his head into the wall repeatedly, i think kidd could probably fight for a little bit if he got stabbed by kat once. again, kat would beat law or kidd, but i'm not sure about one shotting
@thedoctor3528 Жыл бұрын
Better durability? He lost in like 10 attacks lmao and luffys wci durability is no where near his roof top durability so your making a massive stretch
@Nicky-ou6wu Жыл бұрын
I never comment on youtube ever, but this is the most Katakuri dickriding I have ever seen. You're scaling as if WCI Luffy is the same as current Luffy. That is actually retarded. You can't compare feats that Katakuri did against a Luffy from 300 chapters ago to post-Wano Luffy. "Luffy couldn't tank more than one Buzz cut mochi while he tanked a lot of Kaido's named attacks." Are you high bro??? Post-WCI Luffy literally got one-shot by Kaido. Wtf are you smoking? Current Luffy no-diffs Katakuri. Kaido no-diffs Katakuri. Law and Kidd probably mid-diff Katakuri. Get this KOL level Kat worship outta here man.
@Sirius23768 ай бұрын
Bro can’t scale 😂
@Jestiii8 ай бұрын
What a clown. Katakuri is easily the weakest Yc1 cope.
@thisisme2014 Жыл бұрын
Why are people acting like law and kid beat big mom Even in a 2 vs 1 they didn't beat big mom It was the bomb and it was a RING OUT
@pitoseavy4523 Жыл бұрын
Marco got no diff by her same with whole cake gear 4 luffy😂are y’all slow ?? She literally can one shot a commander or tobi roppo (queen,page one,ulti) & law and Kidd didn’t lose🤦🏽♂️it’s like y’all forgot what she did to other characters even kaido what he did to law still being able to fight big mom
@thisisme2014 Жыл бұрын
@@pitoseavy4523bro read again big mom especially said "I'll deal with u later" meaning he is too much to handle for her
@audax_ Жыл бұрын
So... Just like Luffy? She got beat, there's not much else to it
@ThePizzaBoyHD Жыл бұрын
@@thisisme2014no it means he was annoying to deal with not that she couldn't beat him
@thisisme2014 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePizzaBoyHD I never said big mom couldn't beat Marco....
@shenbe Жыл бұрын
I don't see Kidd and Law as impressive as some people think they are, i think some people overrate them because they're the current popular thing, Yamato as well.
@brandonkunkel3747 Жыл бұрын
Yamato is ass, she couldn’t beat Ace and that was before he even fought Jinbe. While Luffy is actually fighting Yonko Ace couldn’t even land a hit on old sleeping Whitebeard while he was asleep. Yamato beat no one in Wano, Ulti got right back up and she stalled kaido for maybe 30 minutes and the whole time kaido was telling her to stop and just become shogun. He clearly wasn’t trying to kill Yamato. She having advanced conquers makes no sense since kaido said only the greats can do this and Yamato was trapped on Onigashima because she doesn’t know advanced armament and couldn’t remove her cuffs. Sure green bull said her haki was tough but Luffy said the same thing about cracker. Everyone is putting Yamato above Zoro but Zoro and Sanji both take down Yamato. I don’t understand the hype behind her character. I think it’s more likely some thirsty weebs who can’t handle the side boob. She isn’t even a clever character she is kinda dumb as ass. And being so obsessive with Oden shows her lack of identity so I don’t get how she would have advanced conquers.
@someoneelse3456 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonkunkel3747 She has it for plot convenience. The only way she could have learnt ACOC is taking repeated beatings from Kaido and even that doesn't make sense because she would have been killed in the process.
@isthisapigeon6612 Жыл бұрын
ranking Yamato is hard though. It's true her only big showing was the fight against Kaido and considering their whole dinamic is kinda dificult to say how much Kaido was trying and how much Yamato actually did damage. That being said Yamato has ACOC, which is by far the craziest buff we know in the story. Luffy literally went from being a commander caliber guy to an emperor by learning it, that's the biggest jump in power we've ever seen. So I get why people put Yamato as high as that
@brandonkunkel3747 Жыл бұрын
@@someoneelse3456 her character design isn’t bad but she is one of the worst written characters in one piece by far and such a late introduction to the arc acting like she was going to join the crew then doesn’t. I just don’t see the point of Yamato
@luis15317 Жыл бұрын
They're the face of the new generation together with Luffy. The ones said to be part of the group of young pirates to take down Kaido according to Odens journal. Law fought Blackbeard pretty evenly with his awakening for longer time until he lost. The simple fact that they could damage Big Mom that much and Big Mom herself admitted she didn't felt that much pain since decades speaks volume, she respected them for a reason. Until then she was never injured by anyone in the series and was seen as an indestructible monster. She had to power up herself for the first time even... the two guys are monsters... even without that much haki... King nor Boa did show any haki either although we know they have it same with Kid and Law.
@SakuragiLastname9 Жыл бұрын
Why are we acting like katakuri is gonna be hitting kid and law with jabs? Are we forgetting he can turn his entire body into big ass spikes. Turn his arm into a spiked maced, etc?
@Blindbarber69911 ай бұрын
Cause he would easily fuck them up with faster speed and better observation or future sight
@plotarmor2328 Жыл бұрын
This is somehow worse than a twitter/reddit list
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
Nah. Give a margin of error of 3 spots and it fits nicely (except the last 2).
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 Жыл бұрын
One piece is hard to powerscale because there is so much we still don’t know
@JohnSmith-yn9ju Жыл бұрын
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320exactly
@ReturnOfGodEnel Жыл бұрын
Begone
@SakuragiLastname9 Жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you let the smooth brains in chat influence the list
@RaffyDGoat Жыл бұрын
Lucci has no business being this high.
@czar17_28 Жыл бұрын
He easily does an an awakened Zoan. Who else would be above him?
@RaffyDGoat Жыл бұрын
@@czar17_28 Lucci above Law and Kid??
@czar17_28 Жыл бұрын
@@RaffyDGoat I’m not saying I 100% agree but there’s an argument in some cases. Lucci’s durability and endurance is better than both of them as an awakening Zoan… that’s definitely a viable argument. Lucci is definitely fast than Kid with better IQ. Law has literally never fought a 1v1 in his life since Vergo, so idek if I have the confidence to say he could fight him. Lucci also got waxed by Gear 5, but Luffy is like Top 7 minimum and he did get up moment later completely fine.
@yugfus Жыл бұрын
@czar17_28 Law just fought Blackbeard. Even after Blackbeard got serious, Law fought him for hours.
@Coffee2024. Жыл бұрын
Yep he's 30
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Akainu tanked two island splitting attacks from whitebeard at his angriest. He clashed evenly with the gura gura no mi and against whitebeard dealt mortal blows to him
@blazing910 Жыл бұрын
Sure a whitebeard that was literally on life support a basically already fought the whole ocean
@Blindbarber69910 ай бұрын
@@blazing910 don’t give me that. In terms of force projection whitebeard hits with earthquake level potency and destruction. On top of his physical strength presumably. For akainu to be matching that with his own power is insane. I can even reference the panel where he does it Sure maybe whitebeard can’t produce the level of quakes he did in his prime (maybe, we don’t know), but I can’t imagine they’re much weaker. And haki doesn’t weaken with age either. It’s your willpower. So in all power related factors like devil fruit, haki, and physical strength, whitebeard should still be roughly the same except for probably physical strength. Regarding his stamina durability and reaction speed, he was diminished. But that’s not what I was referring to. Akainu endured whitebeards most powerful attack twice and was able to match the gura gura no mi with his own ability.
@spunkymonkey510210 ай бұрын
@Blindbarber699 he didn't even use COC cause he was weakened your argument is a joke
@connorbrady568910 ай бұрын
@@spunkymonkey5102Garp used CoC on Hachinosu and Kuzan (who was fighting with doubts like the Straw Hats in Water 7) was trading punches with him. And Sakazuki battled Kuzan for 10 days.
@spunkymonkey510210 ай бұрын
@@connorbrady5689 idk what ur referring too but I'm talking about WB
@PL-ke9yd Жыл бұрын
Katakuri > King, King's fastest attack was blocked by a basic observation haki like Zoro and King couldn't land a single clean hit on Zoro's body the whole fight!! Katakuri can deal with that way easier with future sight and counter attack him when his flames are off, Katakuri can use advanced armament and a spear that can do serious damage to King. King literally have no chance vs Katakuri. And before anyone comes and say fire counters mochi like Morj said, that is not true mochi weakness is water like Jinbei said not fire, Katakuri already clashed with Luffy's red hawk and he was completely fine. Also a good amount of mochi can extinguish fire
@KurokamiNajimi Жыл бұрын
King is Kaido’s right hand, Katakuri is Big Mom’s so King wins simple
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
Fire does counter mochi. Sanji literally shows us that. Stop coping. Katakuri loses to fire users on or close to his tier. Your headcannon does not trump what we're shown AND told in the manga. Also, Katakuri DOES NOT have advanced armament. He has advanced observation. It was never once stated he has advanced armament. Y'all LIE SO MUCH for no freaking reason at all. Katakuri couldn't even put down WCI Luffy, so he's definitely not putting down King whose defenses are far higher in both modes. Y'all literally talk just to talk and then get upvotes from goofballs who can't read. This community is embarrassing.
@shenbe Жыл бұрын
@@Shark-hn4mv When does Sanji show that? You're the one that is coping he gave a proof and you just talking without proof Katakuri said there are levels to armament and he was cracking Luffy's bones because of how advanced his haki is so yeah it's safe to say he have another level of armament, why are you calling people liars when that happened in the manga? while you're saying fire counters mochi when Luffy fire attack did nothing to Katakuri, so who's lying here? Katakuri did put Luffy down many times and Luffy ran away from him and ate his way out of it lol, King does have better defense when his flames are on but when they're off he's just a regular human
@grizzlyadams8277 Жыл бұрын
I love Katakuri but he has 0 ways to damage King. There has never been any indication that King’s flame has a time limit so he can literally just keep it on and stay invulnerable until Kat’s Haki runs out. The only strategy Katakuri has is to try and smother King with his Mochi but that is going to be obscenely difficult.
@danieljoseph3013 Жыл бұрын
He can’t hurt king, he gotta get advanced conquerors for that
@MrLabpro Жыл бұрын
Luffys first feat post time slip was dodging lasers and calling them too slow 💀
@edwinsolis5710 Жыл бұрын
True, but that’s because of his observation haki Kizaru has observation haki too, and he’s naturally faster
@EmperorBeastKaido Жыл бұрын
@@edwinsolis5710I think he’s talking more so about morj believing that there aren’t that many characters that are faster than light, which we know aren’t true lol. Jimbei would destroy Engel.
@pep4338 Жыл бұрын
Bro Usopp on skypiea dodged enel's lighting AND did a backflip in the process
@SakuragiLastname9 Жыл бұрын
If everyone is FTL then why is kizaru considered the fastest when he is strictly lightspeed and not FTL?
@BlackangelKatakuri Жыл бұрын
@edwinsolis5710 No that's also because his reflexes improved.
@DarkflameEmperor Жыл бұрын
Katakuri and Dofflamingo can jump in power if they learn how to coat theor Conqueror's. I feel like Oda did really well balancing the Yonkou first commanders. Katakuri's conqueror's just doesn't feel like it contribute to his strength so he feels like the weakest of them. But if you think of COnqueror's coating, Katakuri is the strongest of the three if he learns coating.
@mohammedrashid8250 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much. If Katakuri learns coating he's basically an emperor level pirate.
@Yaboii_Napz Жыл бұрын
Anybody would be stronger if they learned coating. That’s why u gotta judge based on what they have shown and not potential
@welshlout3400 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that Katakuri has the same kind of potential as BM, but it's locked away so long as he defers all to her and neglects to nurture his own ambitions.
@robertofratello5203 Жыл бұрын
@@mohammedrashid8250 katakuri is basically a start-of-wano Luffy clone. With coating it would be on par with current G4 Luffy, maybe slightly weaker if we assume that Luffy has a naturally stronger CoC
@BlackangelKatakuri Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@mambaASI11 ай бұрын
Idk about that BB take. I see it more like him avoiding unnecessary fights. If he doesn't need to fight you and you're an OP char like akainu or aokiji, he'll opt to run away until he has to fight you for whatever reason. He's only looking for fights where victory is highly probable. Which is very interesting, because likely he'll be fighting shanks' crew at some point. Its been foreshadowed a bit. I think in that fight he'll also have his 3rd df and will showcase the full extent of his power to beat shanks. Imo 2 df BB is probably same tier as akainu, and 3 df BB will be above shanks.
@lemme3295 Жыл бұрын
People get so defensive for Law and Kid, it's crazy. You guys have to admit they're just hard to rank because of what they've shown: crazy devil fruits but nothing else. On the roof they were by far less impressive than Luffy and Zoro even before ashura and advanced conq haki, with Big Mom they basically took turns in distracting her-landing sneak attacks with some hack ability and in the end they couldn't even finish her off, and to finish it all they just got treated like scrubs by two emperors who didn't even take the fight seriously... I get that Oda likes to play with the idea of them being rivals to Luffy and the frontlight of this new generation, but come on
@alecasare5425 Жыл бұрын
This is perversion of the story, kid and law were by far the most impressive characters on Luffy’s side aside from luffy and maybe Yamato, and it’s know secret that oda is pushing law and kid to not be as far from luffy as everyone else in wano. Also law was able to fight BB and his crew for almost 10 Chs, that alone should put him far above guys like zoro, lucci king who would lose to BB in a single 2 chs max. Law is also the only character in the series after BM, Kaido and shanks to negate devil fruit hax and she was able to one shot misery which is BM’s strongest attack, and he did that after saying he had no strength left.
@lemme3295 Жыл бұрын
@@alecasare5425 I'm not saying they're weak and I totally agree their trajectory can really easily put them very very high (even if I still believe Zoro and even Sanji's trajectory are better, but that's just an opinion). What I'm saying is that people go overboard to defend them, as you're doing right now. On the roof they basically were support to Luffy and Zoro, come on. And yeah they have hax abilities that damaged Big Mom, that's impressive, but they landed them in a 2v1 while continuosly distracting her and they couldn't even put her down. And than what happened when they actually faced a Yonkou without the strawhats backing them up? Kidd got blitz and overpowered (and he was prepping his strongest attack and was even supported by Killer, so there's no exscuse) and Law landed a good surprise hit on Blackbeard and proceded to get demolished the moment BB got serious and used his darkness fruit (the 10 chapters is bs and you know it, we just cut away the moment BB overpowered Law). What happened to them is almost like what happened to Luffy when he encountered Kaido in Wano, which makes the comparison to modern Luffy kinda absurd. That being said regardless of what people say, I firmly believe they're going to come back from this even stronger, but believing they're top top tiers right now is just fanfiction
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
…below Marco, Katakuri, and King is still trash. Everyone else maybe, but those three?
@lemme3295 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 my take is that I kinda see Law and Kidd right now in the general commander ballpark more or less, so not top top tier like admirals and yonkous but just below, with the potential to grow. So wethere you put them above or below first commanders is really up to you. I don't think it's a stretch to put them above to be fair (better hax and potential for them VS better combat and 1v1 abilities for the commanders as far as we saw), I was just commenting on how people are desperate to defend them when they're been impressive but not that impressive until now
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
@@lemme3295 well it was one thing to shit on them when they did claim they were relative to Luffy, but defending them when they are put below the likes of Katakuri, Marco, and Lucci is completely warranted.
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Im shouldn’t be the final villain, it should be Blackbeard I mean cmon what is the point of Blackbeard then? Isn’t he a thief who steals power every chance? Wouldn’t he steal Ims power? This generic world ruler who popped up in story at chapter 900 as opposed to BB, the guy who’s been around since like chapter 250 and was diametrically put against luffy?
@dejano4010 Жыл бұрын
I will throw my bias away and give the benefit of the doubt to everyone especially the Admirals 1- Imu 2- Blackbeard 3- Luffy 4- Dragon 5- Shanks 6- Akainu 7- Mihawk 8- Garp 9- Kizaru 10- Aokiji 11- Greenbull 12- Fujitora 13- Sengoku 14- Rayleigh 15- Beckman 16- Katakuri 17- Sabo 18- Marco 19- Shiryu 20- Law 21- Kidd 22- Yamato 23- Zoro 24- Doflamingo 25- Crocodile 26- Boa 27- Lucci 28- King 29- Sanji 30- Koby
@alib6936 Жыл бұрын
You're 16-23 is how Morj list should have been lol
@natelebisky1207 Жыл бұрын
King at 28 is wild, especially looking at who you put over him
@dejano4010 Жыл бұрын
@@natelebisky1207 King is a mid fighter with low iq, once you know his weakness he sadly gets destroyed by the people that are over him
@natelebisky1207 Жыл бұрын
@@dejano4010 kidd, croc, doffy, lucci, and boa can’t damage him so how are they supposed to win? Arguably a few others but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt (Law)
@EmperorBeastKaido Жыл бұрын
List is garbage. Katakuri at 16??? Yamato, Zoro, Law and Sabo would all dog walk him. Hell I’d even say that Sanji would beat him too! And doffy being over lucci is ridiculous. Koby being on this list is insane. I wouldn’t take him over kuma, queen, I’m not even sure if he’s stronger than smoker.
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
There’s literally been two lines implying big mom isn’t dead
@jerielc709 Жыл бұрын
1:11:02 - 1:16:05 this is why i love morj ngl. his analysis, commentary, and theories are so grounded in what's established on the page. apart from him helping old ladies cross the street everyday, he's just really good at analyzing media compared to most other OP content creators
@seaneajea10 ай бұрын
No he isn’t. At all
@Blindbarber69911 ай бұрын
Admirals were NOT going close to all out at marineford Nor was garp or sengoku or mihawk. The only ones who went all out included whitebeard when he was dying at the end, and luffy. The admirals in contrast seemed to be taking things pretty leisurely, like when aokiji casually froze the tsunamis made by WB. Marco vista and Jozu also seemed to be fighting pretty hard but not going all out
@siddhartha894 Жыл бұрын
Katakuri so underrated, i can't believe that at one point Kat vs Doffi was a serious discussion. When he fought luffy he was at a BIG disadvantage since he stabbed himself. Luffy only got out of Kats trap bc he's rubber and can keep expanding his body and eat forever. Kats future sight and the way he can move his body is just too much for many characters to land a hit on him without future sight.
@Page_max Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Kate is powerful enough to force sanji to go midd diff. Zoro still neg diffs him
@Yaboii_Napz Жыл бұрын
How is stabbing himself a “big disadvantage” when prior to that he stabbed Luffy because flampe was firing darts at Luffy. Kat stabbed himself to honor Luffy and make it equal. Doffy is more in a conversation with cracker, not Kat. At the end of the day though I personally think and narratively believe Law and Kidd > Kat.
@nonyabusiness366 Жыл бұрын
I think BB was more concerned that if he let Boa go.he was done fore, he pretty much said as much I believe... Meaning he knows Boa could hurt/end him because of her Hex ability... With Rayleigh may have thought he could beat him but knows he couldn't beat him without dropping Boa.... Finally you are talking about BB knowing who he can beat and not.... But you are leaving out that Rayleigh said himself he wasn't sure he could.defeat BB
@kain6996 Жыл бұрын
BB isn’t omniscient by any means but he’s insanely cautious and patient. It’s not that he knows everything it’s that he only makes a move when he knows 100% that he can succeed.
@nonyabusiness366 Жыл бұрын
@@kain6996 which is my point. He knew Boa would take him and the only thing that was stopping it was him zapping her powers... He says so before Rayleigh which is why he was going to kill her ... He also knows Rayleigh wouldn't be defeated with one hand.
@orbboom6119 Жыл бұрын
I took at as BB would beat Rayleigh but he would lose an eye or a limb in the process😂so he just said fucked that and dipped
@nonyabusiness366 Жыл бұрын
@@orbboom6119 check the page before where he is talking to Coby even says " I don't think there is anyone alive who could live up to your charms"
@BlackangelKatakuri Жыл бұрын
And yet there are those who can resist her ability.
@rodbranbran Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your logic the most at this point in time
@danielneudorf14469 ай бұрын
Here’s my Top 30 (Current) 1. Imu 2. Dragon 3. Mihawk 4. Shanks (could be changed with mihawk) 5. Luffy 6. Akainu 7. Blackbeard 8. Aokiji 9. Garp 10. Saturn (not including other gorosei yet) 11. Garling 12. Kizaru 13. Fujitora 14. Green Bull 15. Sengoku 16. Rayleigh 17. Beckman 18. Zoro 19. Yamato 20. Sanji 21. Marco 22. King 23. Law 24. Kid 25. Shiryu 26. Katakuri 27. Roux 28. Yassop 29. Boa 30. Crocodile
@Andre-im7eq5 ай бұрын
Blackbeard under akainu is wild
@Andre-im7eq5 ай бұрын
Where would Rodger and white beard rank on your list ?
@brainer4194 Жыл бұрын
No chance Mihawk is beating Akainu..!!
@eetu7880 Жыл бұрын
he is and shanks too
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t he? Akainu lost the narrative status of fighting Luffy in the endgame.
@TheSlithice Жыл бұрын
IMO for the story it doesnt make sense for him to be stronger than Akainu. Like a guy as strong as a yonko and stronger than any Admirals just working under the marine is so weird story wise when everyone showed up at marineford.
@tarikizgua1835 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027big cap
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
@@tarikizgua1835 he got replaced by Imu, cope
@audax_ Жыл бұрын
Truly the shittest top 30 out there. Kid next to croc an under Lucci AKA gear 5 oneshot fodder is slanderous
@someoneelse3456 Жыл бұрын
If Shanks oneshots Kid why wouldn't G5 Luffy?
@charlesluikart1799 Жыл бұрын
Classic Morj taking an hour to actually start the list 😭
@handsmcgee8331 Жыл бұрын
The Law & Kid disrespect here is real😂
@czar17_28 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the 15-25 range is hard because it’s like what can Kid do to King? Can Law keep up with Lucci or Yamatos durability alone?
@handsmcgee8331 Жыл бұрын
@@czar17_28 I don’t think the hate is warranted tbh. If Law & Kid can really hurt Yonko’s with their crazy awakenings than those other characters u mentioned shouldn’t be a problem at all(especially Law’s ability). Personally I got Zoro, Law, Kid on a similar tier with Law being the most op out of them at the moment
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
@@handsmcgee8331 , nah, this objectively does not apply to King. He's the only character whose durability was shown as an entire league above Kaido's.
@handsmcgee8331 Жыл бұрын
@@Shark-hn4mv That’s such a misconception some ppl have. Kaido’s durability is the highest we’ve seen by far. King had his gimmick & generally had good durability but dude was out after like 2 acoc attacks while Kaido can withstand much much more. Big Mom also withstood awakening spam & still couldn’t be put out cold, she is the closest in durability to Kaido & even then falls short to Kaido. As for Law’s awakening, it would be like the perfect counter to King since it does internal damage so he arguably could just bypass all the flame stuff. We saw Greenbull seemingly do something similar with his vines
@nonyabusiness366 Жыл бұрын
@@handsmcgee8331also forgetting he was carrying a freaking island lol
@theseeker7692 Жыл бұрын
2:25:20 Why is Morj always ignoring that Lunarians have flames on and off mode, and then saying characters can't hurt King because they can't hurt his flame on mode?
@jonatanholmberg1268 Жыл бұрын
Because if they cant be hurt with the flame on why would you ever turn them off?
@theseeker7692 Жыл бұрын
@@jonatanholmberg1268 I presume it is because natural Lunarians can't actually control whether their flames are on or off. But regardless, King's flame has been turned off even after Zoro figured out his trick and didn't plan to attack him with the flame on, so we know the opportunity will present itself
@vita50001 Жыл бұрын
@@jonatanholmberg1268Ask King the same question why he turned off his..😐😐
@garrettgrisso8180 Жыл бұрын
since king agreed with Zoro that they needed to end the match quickly, the most reasonable interpretation is that staying in (or at least taking damage in) flames on mode costs stamina (it might also be why King moved slower in flames on mode, because moving faster with it on would use more stamina) and so he needed to turn it off at times.
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
Bruh, it DOES NOT matter. None of the characters below Yamato has an attack equivalent to ACOC Enma coated attacks. King in his flame-off state still tanked multiple of those. Just base Enma attacks were the ONLY thing able to break through Kaido's scales with raw force alone (no Advanced Haki or internal damage), and flame-off King is tanking a far stronger ACOC version of those. Y'all acting like flame-off means King has low defense. We're literally shown it does not, multiple times.
@Raghav___111 ай бұрын
This mf is downplaying hancock too much
@drowdreyar7402 Жыл бұрын
Like always there are some disagreement when it comes to power scaling, but ty for ur list and ur analysis with good points..👌
@Amaterasu77306 Жыл бұрын
Morj I know u hear this all time, but your videos are truly amazing brother. Keep up the amazing work, also buggy solos the list.
@liamnathan28472 ай бұрын
Doffy has advanced conqueror’s haki he was literally the first character that introduced it!!!!
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
A gorosei being stronger than aokiji lmao damn Morj
@Andre-im7eq5 ай бұрын
Are you slow 💀😂?….a gorosei single-handedly wipes out the marines
@pogo8050 Жыл бұрын
Lmao I had completely forgotten about Judge top 5
@Typher_ Жыл бұрын
top 30 by Mr Morj about to be like the commandments for the OP community
@jackroberts2704 Жыл бұрын
The OP community never agrees on power scaling so I wouldn't be too sure lol
@TheMrstevewalker Жыл бұрын
You got the community all wrong lol plus Morj is a B tier power scaler
@nonyabusiness366 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMrstevewalker now people are scaling scaling. What has this world come to FFS. So this is how the world ends, not with a bang but with people.l scaling other people based on their opinions 🤦
@NotYourCitizenAnymore Жыл бұрын
Morj is just as arbitrary and biased as the next guy lol I think not
@infinity_label Жыл бұрын
Morj is all wrong here. 😅😀
@infamouscheesecake2232 Жыл бұрын
Why is kid on the list when it's characters confirmed alive only? He's in the exact same position (figuratively) as kaido and big mom
@GroutMobile Жыл бұрын
Kidd and laws defeats were paralleled and law survives. There’s at least EVIDENCE for kidd to be alive as opposed to kaido and big mom. Our evidence is that law survives.
@gugugugu1300 Жыл бұрын
@@GroutMobile That's not what evidence is. Law has been specifically shown alive and escaping successfully the last time we saw him, Kid was last shown unconcious and most likely drowning. They contrast of the outcomes was pretty evident. I think he is alive, but for meta reasons, not because what was actually shown.
@adoniscreed4031 Жыл бұрын
Kaido and BM are most likely not dead but Kid is DEFINITELY not dead 😂
@YOUNGGUNZ61 Жыл бұрын
morj reaching across the galaxy to find anything that gives him a reason why any character is > law and kid
@henchme976 Жыл бұрын
Midd is a bitch, so half of that isn't hard.
@bmuhammadthariqhumaid4670 Жыл бұрын
it goes back because of the awakening asspul by oda
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
Zoro is only non-admiral or yonko above them.
@yugfus Жыл бұрын
@@Shark-hn4mvZoro isn't above Law.
@theseeker7692 Жыл бұрын
It is honestly hilarious to see, man isn't even trying to hide it
@emperorssky810 Жыл бұрын
The Sanji downplay is fucking insane
@jasonxx9884 Жыл бұрын
Nah just because he defeated don’t mean he is that strong 😂
@GroutMobile Жыл бұрын
Passing out after beating a SECOND in command deserves no spot amongst first commanders, change my mind.
@Coffee2024. Жыл бұрын
@@GroutMobilehe started his fight injured & was in his head the entire fight. Mental nerfs are very prevalent in OP so he didn't fight at full power until after he broke the Raidsuit & accepted his DNA modifications. Sanji stated he's stronger when he's more passionate. Ifrit Sanji can basically mid diff Queen in a rematch now & no commander but Zoro & Beckman can do that currently.
@Mohamadtheman Жыл бұрын
It really is
@Onyx_Cloud Жыл бұрын
Morj acting surprised about the view count when he knows deep down we don’t care about themes and analysis WE WANT AGENDA!!!😤😤😤
@sanjiblackleg1197 Жыл бұрын
Don't talk about agenda.. we all know what ur agenda is
@SeanEvans-mx1gg4 ай бұрын
Top 5 is good besdies dragon just Don’t know no one does could be or he could be admiral level but other then that Your top 5 I agree with black beard not sure about but solid list so tough maken these
@tariqulislamakash5749 Жыл бұрын
The biggest crime on this list is Sabo being that low. Dragon being no2 alone should've elevated him much higher
@mathewmena1688 Жыл бұрын
Yea but also dragon is supposed to be the most wanted criminal which means his bounty is at least 5 billion and sabos bounty isn’t even 1. Ik bounty doesn’t equal power but my point is that just cuz he’s dragons #2 doesn’t mean he has to be right below him
@Page_max Жыл бұрын
The opposite is true. Morj is overhyping that tool
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
Nah, Sabo lost everything we used to hype him - doesn't actually have advanced armament and didn't actually injure the Admirals in combat. He's just a regular strong fighter at YC1 at BEST.
@nonyabusiness366 Жыл бұрын
@@mathewmena1688 dragon is the most wanted criminal because he is actively trying to over throw the WG... That doesn't mean he is the strongest or anything it just simply means the WG sees that he is out for them and k OWS he poses a bigger risk than a Yonko because they most just like to float about and rob shit.
@nonyabusiness366 Жыл бұрын
@@Shark-hn4mv didn't he destroy the arena by with his claw? ? Surely that is Advanced Haki. Also on the admiral point..... That's a two edge sword.... The admirals also didn't hurt him🤷🏻
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Jozu threw an ice mountain across the bay of marineford at the beginning of the battle to start it off. Luffy throws a small mountain in rage during post marineford, while severely injured. One piece characters can just throw mountains Especially post time skip characters. So idk why people are pretending what burgess did was special
@djfalker1045 Жыл бұрын
Bro he’s gotta be trolling us
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
One piece characters REACT to light and lightning a lot Lightning in one piece isn’t effective. It appears to damage or be capable of damaging anyone but it doesn’t put anyone down. Especially not post time skip, it’s more like a delay
@emperorssky810 Жыл бұрын
Soon as I saw King, Marco, and ESPECIALLY Lucci of all freaking people over Sanji then I knew you were extremely Zoro biased. Sanji clears those three easily
@emperorssky810 Жыл бұрын
Absolute insanity. Queen could react to Marco, BUT COULDNT SEE SANJI FOR A LONG CONSECUTIVE PERIOD OF TIME. Gosh please read
@lucanimpact Жыл бұрын
He has 0ap Marco over Kid, Law and Sanji lol. He should stick to chapter analysis
@someoneelse3456 Жыл бұрын
yeah Lucci is a joke, Sanji vs King/Marco are both unclear to me
@surplexshadow1470 Жыл бұрын
U say it was 2v1 but if you go back king and Marco are missing for multiple chapters until we see Marco on the ground and despite those attacks he did to king and queen they were unscathed and u can’t say they jumped him because sanji chopper and the rest of the live floor was there and most of Marco and kings panels are them standing across from eachother listening while we knew king had way more abilities we didn’t see up til that point and I don’t think oda would make zoro surpass Marco by fighting someone weaker and if queen thought king was inferior he wouldn’t have said to zoro that he couldn’t beat him . That Marco encounter is just how they fight A TANK vs a Offensive machine ofc it’s gonna look that way in a quick brawl
@lucanimpact Жыл бұрын
Common Morj L, Brago's list clears
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
He started off relatively fine, and then it just spiraled, and spiraled. Then we had that Enel discussion.
@adoniscreed4031 Жыл бұрын
Bro, Brago's lists are sorry from the beginning 😂
@Mohamadtheman Жыл бұрын
Both suck
@Hawkeye5079 Жыл бұрын
Kidd was able to break big mom arm in her strongest form without his awakening and he’s under Lucci, Yamato, King and Marco?? INSANITY
@audaciousjones Жыл бұрын
if kid could do that to big mom then akainu would murder her 😂
@Hawkeye5079 Жыл бұрын
@@audaciousjones big mom durability > Akainu’s
@audaciousjones Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkeye5079 akainu can regenerate
@Hawkeye5079 Жыл бұрын
@@audaciousjonesbig mom can too
@Shark-hn4mv Жыл бұрын
That's due to Law weakening her insides. Law even called Kidd out for this and Big Mom reaffirmed it by only quoting Law as dangerous. FACTS matter.
@GroutMobile Жыл бұрын
MAD respect to defending Marco for as long as you did. I completely agree with your placement and think anyone who disagrees is looking at PURE feats and not portrayals. King COULD beat Marco but in general Marco is better because he’s done more and more has been said about him. Also his flames completely counters king. (This is why I think Marco would win against sabo because sabo’s devil fruit is useless in that fight) change my mind.
@KurokamiNajimi Жыл бұрын
King has no chance of beating Marco. Marco is as strong as Kizaru
@seaneajea10 ай бұрын
So why is Kid and Law that low
@jeptheguy2089 Жыл бұрын
cant powerscale seraphim but added jack to the debate🤡 “kat ranks low” even though u can count confirmed future site users on one hand, and he can keep up with g4 in base. 💀🤡
@jeptheguy2089 Жыл бұрын
also eneru gets downplayed so much. if he comes back hes getting scaled higher or equal to yc1. hos observation n devilF mastery were absurd… he uses the devil fruit after death. thats not a passive of his devil fruit… he had other crazy feats with his fruit.
@PLMNOAH Жыл бұрын
@jeptheguy2089 never talk about One Piece again. Enel got outstatted by pre ts luffy. Luffy literally blitzed him and his durability was so ass he was getting fucked up by base luffy. Any notable character with basic haki is wiping the floor with Enel. Bro will literally lose to Pekoms
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
@@jeptheguy2089if he comes back stronger sure, but people who say he is underrated are crazy. Get him past gear two Luffy in Enies Lobby
@Tserinac_Backwards Жыл бұрын
@@PLMNOAH On God. That same Luffy got no diffed by Blueno. Shitty powerscaling.
@jeptheguy2089 Жыл бұрын
@@PLMNOAH lol outstatted... u clearly didnt watch or read. eneru has way better obvservation/speed/ap just cuz luffy won for narrative purposes doesnt justify ur powerscaling. he was literally untouchable until some bs plot armor came into play. cuz in reality he couldve just relied on his spd and obs and smacked the f out of luffy. if u think otherwise ur just bias
@KyubiCloaks Жыл бұрын
Lol i love morj shutting down the One Piece speed wank scalers. These kids just want OP to be so strong they take everything literally and have characters like 10x light speed. If thats the case luffy could go gear 4 and fly around so fast he could search the entire planet for the One piece in like 30 mins lmao
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
I find it funny that you also miss the part where they differentiate travel speed, and then combat and reaction speed. One Piece characters are within that ftl range and saying they aren’t at this point is copium
@KyubiCloaks Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 LMFAO found one🤣that was quick. Nobody missed it lil bro it still doesnt justify it. Stop wanking just cause you want your fav fictional characters to beat other fictional characters
@somerandomnoob100 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 people bring up travel speed vs combat speed like it makes any fucking difference once youre talking about ftl. If a character can move at light speed for a whole ass fight, they have to be able to move at that speed for the 0.1 second it would take to travel anywhere on the planet. Otherwise, how the fuck are they controlling their speed well enough to fight other ftl characters
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomnoob100 I mean that just tells me your relatively new to this, or that you just don’t get basic concepts. Travel speed is over a long distance, while combat is kep to a certain area.
@somerandomnoob100 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 I'm trying to tell you to use logic. When you're moving at light speed, distances at the scale of a single planet are all short distance. Are you telling me that luffy can move at light speed, but only for about 100 meters at a time? He can use Max speed for less than a millionth of a second? Seriously think about what it actually means to go the speed of light.
@lorddukfoxyzeppeli79218 ай бұрын
amd drago should have closed the pretimeskip or part 1
@Gokusolos75 Жыл бұрын
Ur bias against law and kid is hilarious
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Aokiji and kizaru are yonko level morj
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Aokiji would beat kaido and luffy Aokiji is like number 6 in the world. The admirals are clearly equal to the yonko morj. Like you do realize Garp is using advanced conquers plus armament on aokiji? Garp has to have the strongest haki in the world or close to it and aokiji is just tanking blows Like we all know how strong prime Garp was, and his haki shouldn’t be worse
@djouvensclermont5214 Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday to I'm bussing
@danieltagle2525 Жыл бұрын
Morj talks about how hes not going to rate on feats proceeds to rate on feats
@BlackangelKatakuri Жыл бұрын
Feats are evidence so why wouldn't use them?
@fizzle7421 Жыл бұрын
Crocodile being a former woman is interesting. Crocodile being luffys mom is fucking stupid. That joke is so tired.
@yamikamisama9166 Жыл бұрын
So is Shanks just not a swordsmen all of a sudden? Shanks being stronger than the strongest swordsmen makes absolutely no sense. People need to get off the Shanks D and start using logic. (Incoming, "but Vista....but, but, but no feats" braindead comments)
@MrYondaime705 Жыл бұрын
Who says hes not a swordsman? He uses a sword so obviously hes a swordsman. But guess what? Who else uses a sword? Big Mom used a sword with her homies, Who wins? Mihawk or Big Mom? Kizaru can make a Light Sword when he vsed Rayleigh, who wins Mihawk or Kizaru ? If you dont get my point, then dont even bother. Shanks is a swordman, but hes not JUST a swordsman. Thats why hes still stronger than Mihawk even tho Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman in the world. How do I know hes not just a swordsman? Because he made an admiral run away from hundreds of miles away WITHOUT even pulling his sword out. Can Mihawk do the same ?
@yamikamisama9166 Жыл бұрын
@@MrYondaime705 Oh, I definitely get your point but unlike those examples you gave, such as Big Mom who has devil fruit abilities as well as Kizaru, Shanks has nothing else to fall on. He's just a plain swordsmen with no devil fruit. Haki is not a separate thing from swordsmanship. How did Zoro become stronger as a swordsmen? - He unlocked the next stage to haki. So haki and swordsmanship go hand in hand. Shanks managed to give GB a little fright with his haki, but guess what? That haki alone is not defeating GB. At the end of the day Shanks is going to funnel that haki into his blade, and all it means is that when he does, Shanks should not be beating the world's strongest swordsmen, otherwise there's continuity issues in the writing.
@MrYondaime705 Жыл бұрын
@@yamikamisama9166 Well written response. But heres where we differ, I believe Swordsmanship and Haki ARE 2 different thing’s because One is a fighting Ability, and another is an Enhancer. Haki Enhances whatever fighting ability you have, whether that be with a Devil Fruit, Technology, or a Sword. You can COMBINE haki with whatever Fighting ability you have, but that doesnt mean they are One and the Same. And according to Kaido, who was also stronger than Mihawk since Strongest Creature > Strongest Swordsmanship, Having the strongest Haki is ABOVE everything. Its Above Devil Fruits, Tech, and Swordsmanships. And who has the Strongest Haki in the verse that we’ve seen so far ? Shanks. To say Mihawk is stronger than Shanks would mean Mihawk has a Stronger Haki than Shanks. When has THAT ever been shown? Because having the title Worlds Strongest Swordman is in no way implying you have a Stronger Haki than anyone else. But if you're gonna tell me that Mihawk DOESNT have a stronger haki than Shanks, then how is Mihawk overall stronger than shanks when Having a Stronger Haki means more than being a better Swordfighter ? Lets break it down in Numbers so you can understand Shanks Swordsmanship : 9/10 ( daily duels with mihawk, and its his main weapon of choice, this number makes sense ) Shanks Haki : 11/10. Strongest in the verse by a GAP, no one even comes close especially after what he did with Greenbull + Kidd. Mihawks swordsmanship: 10/10 ( Worlds Strongest Swordsman ) Mihawks Haki : 8/10 ( Tbh this should be lower since weve seen nothin from Mihawk in terms of Haki, its not even confirmed if he has conquerors LOL but ill give him the benefit of the doubt and say he Does have it ) Shanks Overall : 20/20 Mihawk Overall : 18/20 As you can see, if we take out Haki, then YES, Mihawk IS stronger than Shanks because hes the WSS, but we all know if they were to fight for real, then ofc both of them would use Haki and in that case, Shanks would be Overall stronger. But this doesnt take away from Mihawks title, because he would still be the Worlds Strongest Swordsman if it wasnt for Haki. This analogy is also based on 2 individuals with NO DEVIL FRUITS, bringing characters with DFs makes 0 sense. So until its Shown in the story that Mihawk has a stronger Haki than Shanks, His title means nothing because Haki > Swordsmanship. What I mean by this is Shanks would be stronger than Mihawk no matter the weapon that he chooses to fight with. If he was to use a Club like Kaido, this whole debate would be over because the only reason hes even Compared to Mihawk is his weapon of choice, which is COINCIDENTALLY a sword. If he used a Sibento like WhiteBeard, or a club like Kaido as I've said before, WE ALL WOULD ALREADY KNOW SHANKS IS STRONGER THAN MIHAWK LOL. The only reason theres even a debate about this, is his weapon of choice is a Sword when in reality, that doesnt even matter.
@suyashdwivedi3202 Жыл бұрын
@@MrYondaime705SBS 101 shanks is a confirmed swordsman. BM is not a swordsman.
@MrYondaime705 Жыл бұрын
@@suyashdwivedi3202 Who said Shanks wasnt a swordsman ? Big Mom isnt a swordsman but she used a sword, how is she not a swordsman / swordswoman ?
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
“Marines are slowly diminishing” lol false and is stronger than Im and luffy. Akainu doesn’t need coc haki to be stronger than luffy. I guess magma powers plus advanced armament don’t mean shit if you have advanced coc
@Gozillazoro Жыл бұрын
Wheres bogard
@Stefan0v1 Жыл бұрын
Roast my tier list guys: This is my list from half a year ago.XD 1)Imu - ruler of the world 2)Shanks - his haki has worse portrayal only than Roger himself... 3)Dragon - I take second in command as a hint towards how powerful the nr 1 is 4)Luffy - gear 5 clowned Kaido. 5)Akainu - i think he got a boost from his Aokiji fight 6)Mihawk -Zoro's goal, behind all the people Luffy is chasing 7)Kaido - Latest "worlds strongest creature".. 8)BB - too many current L' s ..i wish i could put him higher 9)Aokiji - he's close to Akainu, and BB's second hand man, for now. 10)Garp - way past his prime , and will clash with BB, probably on equal grounds 11)BM - Big Meme.. 12)Kong - looks imposing 13)Sengoku - conquerors. 14)Kizaru - too much of a slow noob. 15)Rayleigh -he said he doesn't think he can beat BB NOW, out of prime. 16)Fujitora - strong but nothing special 17)Greenbull - Shanks 18)Ben Beckman -said to not be so far behind Shanks, Shanks' second. 19)Sabo, fought very well against Fujitora, and again Fujitora and Greenbull in Holy land.. 20)Yamato, stalled Kaido. 21)Kid - Moved BM at a safe distant so the nukes could put her to sleep 22)Law - MVP in the BM fight 23)Zoro - in between first yonko commander and admiral. 24)Sanji - My favorite lunarian. 25)Marco - Best support in the game, lackluster firepower. 26)King - loyal fellow 27)Katakuri - King 28)Rob Luci - kind of impressive in his "fight" against Luffy 29)Boa - don't know.. 30)Lucky Roo
@toadounetlovesyou Жыл бұрын
Decent list. I would put Kaido and Big Mom higher and Kong much lower, maybe not even in the top 30. Otherwise I think it's okay, as a lot of rankings are very subjective anyway. Sorry, I'm bad at roasting lol.
@davidjohn2426 Жыл бұрын
Mihawk placement is objectively bad, should be way higher. Again, World's strongest swordsman > Shanks.
@Stefan0v1 Жыл бұрын
@@davidjohn2426 Because i don't think that Mihawk is that strong Bro... Obviously, i put him over Kaido, but i'd only change him with Akainu, the best i can do.. I don't think Mihawk will be Zoro's final adversary.. Zoro's final adversary will be Ryuma from the WG side....the true sword god.
@zaczeen1121 Жыл бұрын
@@Stefan0v1 how strong do you have to be that you would *accidentally* destroy a mountain iceberg in pieces from miles away with just a single slash?
@Stefan0v1 Жыл бұрын
@@zaczeen1121 Strong enough to be put above Kaido.
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Marco is stronger than king and katakuri, but is close to zoro but below him, and zoro is below Beckmann and close to him Beckmann and old Rayleigh and fujitora and ryuokugyu all seem equivalent in hype above Marco Shiryu and sabo are weaker than all of them closer to queen and smoothie
@justkrelaxin5987 Жыл бұрын
Idk how katakuri was so low. Stamina? He stabbed himself ! Has conquers haki. He was bodying luffy the whole fight practically. And he’s probably improved a bit after losing for the first time in forever.
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
And pre time skip characters tanked enel level lightning attacks and got back up. Wiper zoro and Sanji all did it. That lightning attack Nani did on big mom is NOT a big deal Lightning is not effective on one piece characters we saw it on the roof. Killer got hit by an enormous lightning bolt it did nothing. Zoro got hit and it did nothing Enel doesn’t beat vice admirals let alone scratch the top 30 of one piece. His observation haki is basic for new world standards
@anime___edits___5720 Жыл бұрын
Zoro is overated af by morj😂
@Typher_ Жыл бұрын
zoro will not lose another fight in the series. hes basically as strong as luffy and only has to fight the 2nd strongest in each arc, he low diff'd the entire grand line up until now
@Typher_ Жыл бұрын
only reason king was even a chance was because his indestructible hax that zoro didnt know about
@leonel9110 Жыл бұрын
He’s not losing to kid or law get over it
@handsmcgee8331 Жыл бұрын
@@Typher_ He’s nowhere near Luffy right now. End game Zoro will be a beast no doubt but, he’s currently still growing in strength & hasn’t even mastered his new found abilities yet. He proved himself as a yc1 lvl in Wano but Zoro still got a ways to go to reach even higher than that
@alifputrawan9565 Жыл бұрын
Why? He is perfectly there
@cyruscrompton8221 Жыл бұрын
What's up with the jump at 2:50:09
@leonel9110 Жыл бұрын
SABO IS UNDERRATED
@jackroberts2704 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I guess we haven't seen him fight long enough against a tough opponent to tell though since the recent chapter was more a skirmish. Once he awakens it will be a whole different situation.
@B_Machine Жыл бұрын
Damn, missed the stream.
@joshlyman7059 Жыл бұрын
i think its pretty safe to say Dragon is about as strong as Garp was and about as strong as Luffy will be, im not sure why ppl look at that as a controversial opinion
@rbungba223 Жыл бұрын
Stop thinking Luffy will always be an underdog
@Jestiii8 ай бұрын
Luffy will always be an underdog. Take it or leave it. Pre-timeskip he was an underdog, even after entering the ranks of Yonko he's still the underdog. This might change soon after egghead though.
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Prime Rayleigh is stronger than prime sengoku
@brooklunwalter8122 Жыл бұрын
king would beat marco. king on offense could hurt marco. u capping yo ass off
@Lomanitv6 ай бұрын
Blackbeard > Akainu and aokiji
@iviui2d3i2 Жыл бұрын
Hmm.. I enjoyed the debates and reasoning. Realistically it's difficult to put a solid 'rank/number' on each grouping of 5 adjacent characters as you go through the scale. Like 1 thru 5 can be fairly interchangeable, 6 thru 10 can also swap spots with anyone within a few ranks (higher/lower), 11 thru 15 is much of the same. With what's left after the heavier hitters ranking somewhere around 15 to 20, the entire bottom half of the list are, relatively, comparable "fodder", since many of them would never beat a 'TRUE' top 5 character under any circumstances; even if they aligned forces and went '10 v 1' against a singular powerhouse like: a 'G5 Nika/Luffy', or a Shanks, BM, Kaido tier Pirate, Yonkou or top Admiral. I got off track there about the only true issue I had with this process. From the start, rules were laid out that were intended to stick to "What we absolutely *KNOW* from strictly Manga, SBS, Oda Confirmations etc., and to EXCLUDE the Anime, and the countless inconsistencies that so often occur within the Games and Films (UNLESS, certain aspects had been defined as being officially, canonically correct by Oda himself and/or possibly trusted words from his Chief Editor). As such, abiding by the rules that have been quite clearly laid out in this way we can certainly presume, without any doubts, that ANY AND ALL READER/FAN "SUPPOSITIONS", (a.k.a. "HEAD-CANON"), should absolutely NEVER, even playfully, be entertained as a relevant factor for any and all characters in the ONE PIECE Universe when constructing this obvious thought experiment which attempts to determine the 30 STRONGEST characters. Working inside of the boundaries of "What we KNOW" to be true, factual, and documented occurrences within the ONE PIECE Universe (Important to note that from the beginning of the video it's strongly implied that it is subject ONLY to elements known to be factual AT THIS TIME). And so, the main problem I felt in this obviously masochistic undertaking of a project (Thanks, Mr. Morj 😁) ... There were many moments where the groundwork and resultant foundation which produced the "rules" for us fans during this endeavor, (which, again, had been laid out since the start), slowly became undermined and chipped away at. Now that it can be rewatched, and thus with the gift of hindsight, it is beyond apparent that there was very little hope for things to remain true to those rules, and steadfast in it's focus and intention anyway. Small cracks began to grow unchecked at crucial moments, to the point where even our gracious and hardworking host himself began straying from the flight plan. Yes, even he who had been the Arbiter of these rules and author of this guidebook during our journey. Thus he began to fall victim to these cracks as well regardless of laying out both the rules and overall directions intended to keep the reigns held tight on this unexpectedly monumental challenge. This slippery slope became most apparent to me when he not only latched on to a handful of those Headcanon-like Assumptions that arise from the CHAT, but even moreso when unwittingly creating unproven "leaps of unaccounted-for events" of his own presumptive thoughts, (even though the presumptions did have some form of merit at times, they were still simply only "ASSUMPTIONS" nonetheless until proven otherwise by the self-ascribed precedents set in place, i.e., 'presuming without fact' that Sir Crocodile, "Probably improved [sic] to a far more formidable version of how strong he 'used to be' [sic]", though, when we ourselves as the One Piece Audience have had no further verified, true knowledge of any impactful increases of Crocodile's alleged increase in strength of any sort since the previous time that any factual information had been released concerning neither his growth, nor exploits. I couldn't truly debate that I would disagree with Mr. Morj's 'presumption' here,... yet, if it's expected that we're all to be playing by the rules insisted upon for ranking the 30 STRONGEST CHARACTERS, I also am ethically required to say that I CANNOT agree with said Assumption/Headcanon either. In this portion, my final thought, I strongly feel the need to make it clear that this is simply a personal critique, from one single fan and subscriber, that rather than my overly long critique being seen as a cheap and unprovoked attempted "takedown" of Mr. Morj, I would rather cap this off by speaking of Mr. Morj's accomplishments, and overall good standing in the One Piece Community. I'm definitely not attempting to balk at Mr. Morj; I greatly admire the devotion and hard work he consistently delivers. Mr. Morj puts such a highly respectable amount of effort into his chosen role of being a "One Piece Content Creator", whom has made so many fun and insightfully creative videos up here on KZbin l, and embraces the "extra" intriguing One Piece theories with such alacrity and undeniable joy toward his constant interactions with all One Piece content, as well as with all of the mutual fans and fellow One Piece 'Content Creators'. I have only respect for this man.
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Lmao so many people can punch harder than elizzobello wtf That’s a whack take morj
@PLMNOAH Жыл бұрын
Morj, you putting Shanks above Mihawk has lost you all credibility in the one piece scene. Its a shame to see a big youtuber such as yourself ignore all the undeniable canon facts to place Shanks above the worlds strongest swordsman.
@abbamalami9171 Жыл бұрын
Bro what are you smoking? He put shanks over mihawk😂😂
@abbamalami9171 Жыл бұрын
Lmao, cry harder😂😂
@elavarasang9399 Жыл бұрын
Shanks > Mihawk cry
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
Ghandi strongest swordsman in the verse anyway, get fraudhawk out of here
@zaczeen1121 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027 you're saying Oda is a fraud then
I would switch the Yamato and Sabo placements with Kidd and Law, respectively. Luffy is to high in my opinion but I like the list overall
@samoravanderpuije2538 Жыл бұрын
morj: portrayal is more reliable than feats also morj: sabo has no feats!!!! Lmfao Morj hates the fact Sabo is admiral level so much it’s hilarious.
@Ashu2448 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the list was the best one, I have ever seen but the Sabo take was very idiotic in my opinion
@Gozillazoro Жыл бұрын
They are all better than Magella
@seanpw9940 Жыл бұрын
Anybody notice that all of this mans streams start with a sigh
@suyashdwivedi3202 Жыл бұрын
W Zoro placement ( it's law + kid + sanji fans trying to put Zoro below law and kid.) Rooftop Zoro >>. Rooftop Law / Kid. Acoc >> Awakening. Rooftop Zoro + Acoc + Enma control >> Law and kid + Awakening. It's simple maths. Sanji fans just want to drag Zoro down so that they can place Sanji close to him.🤦
@MercuryCeres Жыл бұрын
All this said by a Zoro fan boy smh
@leonel9110 Жыл бұрын
@@MercuryCeresbut it’s facts
@suyashdwivedi3202 Жыл бұрын
@@MercuryCeres i would really like a counter argument not name calling bullcrap. That's dumb af.
@MercuryCeres Жыл бұрын
@@suyashdwivedi3202 I don’t disagree with you, and that’s my bad I didn’t mean fan boy in a derogatory way
@czar17_28 Жыл бұрын
You say that but I would argue Kid fighting Big Mom for like 3 hrs is a durability feat way above Zoro getting nailed by Hakai and then fighting King. Or atleast comparable. I would say that Kid matches Zoro in every physical aspect, and Law’s awakening is just as good as ACOC.
@brandumb90 Жыл бұрын
Zoro being miles above Law and Kidd is ☠️ Zoro also is not stronger than Yamato. Yamato > Law > Kidd > Zoro > Sanji > King L takes fr
@davidjohn2426 Жыл бұрын
Don't powerscale, you are clearly not cut out for it.
@carmelosmith8782 Жыл бұрын
For you to say king weaker then sanji you can't powerscale at all
@Ashu2448 Жыл бұрын
The best list I have seen so far on the internet, not because I agree with it (like dragon) but because the logic behind is very sound ......... ......... and Morj characters like Akainu, dragon, mihawk, garp, maybe even sabo... Are going to have conquerors ...these are end game important characters, if katakuri and boa can have it ... The guy who killed ace and is the fleet admiral is definitely gonna have it ...even if Sabo defeats him eventually..this just means that Sabo is also gonna have it just like luffy and Ace ...
@nabinnepal2809 Жыл бұрын
Never Forget The Dynamite Did Most Of The Damage😂😂😂
@xxTHELEGENDxx627 Жыл бұрын
I truly believe that anyone who thinks shanks is stronger than mihawk heavily lacks basic reading comprehension ability 💀
@KurokamiNajimi Жыл бұрын
Ironic lmao
@adoniscreed4031 Жыл бұрын
The irony of this statement is wild 😂
@KurokamiNajimi Жыл бұрын
@@adoniscreed4031 Fun fact Zoro is 1 cm taller than Sanji, King 1 over King, Shanks 1 over Mihawk 🤣
@xxTHELEGENDxx627 Жыл бұрын
@@KurokamiNajimi shanks fans using height to put shanks above mihawk now and y’all think mihawk fans the crazy ones 💀💀💀
@KurokamiNajimi Жыл бұрын
@@xxTHELEGENDxx627 Talks about lacking basic reading comprehension but can’t read between the lines 🤣 you know Shanks and Mihawk also have the same birthday right
If Zoro did what Sanji did with the Seraphim, you would place him above all the admirals. Sanji does it, and you say you need to see more and place him below characters he demolishes. That excuse is only used on Sanji out of every character. Its just bias cloaked as an excuse.
@ShadowStyle369 Жыл бұрын
What exactly did sanji do ?
@KyubiCloaks Жыл бұрын
Tanking a normal seraphim punch...who are lunarians and know for DURABILITY not attack power isn't all that. The other seraphim havent been able to touch luffy or zoro ONCE. Getting past THEIR defense is the issue. If zoro tsnked a punch nobody would gaf either. Its about actually hurting them
@Ashu2448 Жыл бұрын
What bias bro ... Nobody would be surprised if kaku tanked a punch from seraphim. Sanji's ifrit jambe will be comparable to conquer attacks and hence he would damage the seraphim ...but that's my and community's head cannon, we still need to see it and if it happens Morj and everyone will agree he is right below Zoro ...
@ShadowStyle369 Жыл бұрын
@@Ashu2448 absolutely no way ifrit is comparable to coc coating attacks 😂😂😂 one is a ability only the strongest can use and the other is just hotter flames
@TM-NTM Жыл бұрын
@@Ashu2448hakai exists we don’t give a fuck about Sanji feats
@shasha023 Жыл бұрын
trash top 30
@brandonkunkel3747 Жыл бұрын
With your enel argument no one should even touch Kizaru and it’s just not gonna happen someone is going to put hands on him and Marco already kept up with him.
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
But kizaru is never sown reallyserious, other when fighting rayleigh, granted as old man, but he likely wanted topass and didnt give all of his in that fight. arcois just not a good match when, he regenerates, thats borign to him probably. Marco did not kp up with him really, honestly the only time we saw kizaru allout was in the Z movie and thats questioable canon.
@Sakazuki-San Жыл бұрын
The Akainu downplay from this Indian 🤡 is ridiculous. He completely downplayed everything Akainu did, and that ridiculous statement that just because he fought Aokiji for 10 days so he can’t be that strong lmao. Mihawk didn’t finish off Vista at Marineford they had a sparring does that mean that we can use that to downplay Mihawk? Shanks pre time skip got his scars from BB without any devil fruit and Shanks even said he didn’t get hurt because he wasn’t careful can we take that and downplay Shanks? It’s really pathetic how people have no issue downplaying Admirals because they ain’t that popular compared to the Yonkos but when it comes to the pirates they completely ignore and hype every single feat of them to the sky. Luffy barely beat Katakuri yet one arc later he beat a Yonko. But for Akainu it’s a problem when he defeats a fn Fleet Admiral caliber person in Aokiji? How does that make sense? Also fighting longer gives you a Haki bloom as stated. Garp giving Aokiji trouble is a reason to downplay Akainu? Garp is Rogers rival and Aokiji is lazy and slow at fights unless he goes really serious. There are so many reasons and points which I could give to completely destroy this biased guy but at the end of the day admirals won’t get there respect until Oda truly shows there full power. It’s just pathetic how he tries his best to downplay Akainu. What a horrible take
@Billy_Herrington1969 Жыл бұрын
You didn't have to point out he's indian man, come on man, what's with all the aggression man, you are more hot-headed than Akainu, and he's a magma man, lol
@Sakazuki-San Жыл бұрын
@@Billy_Herrington1969Indians are known to be scammers and liars. He does a lot of lying and hypocrisy in this video. Pathetic nothing else
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
The admirals no longer have the narrative endgame argument for being Strawhat opponents, cope, mauld, and seethe.
@Sakazuki-San Жыл бұрын
@@kingrippzard2027Akainu traumatized Luffy for life, he is the only one who made him doubt about his dreams, he’s the reason for the time skip, he’s the reason why Luffy had to become much stronger, he’s the only one who gave Luffy permanent marks (gigantic scar) on his body, Mihawk gave Zoro, Blackbeard gave Shanks his and Akainu gave it to Luffy. We all know those are 100% future matchups which is build for years and years he’s also the head of the marines which Luffy eventually needs to face as he said in dressrosa (I can’t run from Admirals or Yonkos if I want to become the pirate king I need to defeat them all) and who’s the only one who fits that it’s Akainu future opponent we are already in the final saga meaning end game antagonist. Cry cope and learn powerscaling. Nice try Yonkotard 🤝🏼
@kingrippzard2027 Жыл бұрын
@@Sakazuki-San ignoring how Kizaru had more of a role in that whole set up than Akainu. Luffy is going against the whole world government. Oda isn’t going to have him fight a lackey of the main villain. We know he isn’t going to defeat every Yonko or Admiral, at this point all he has left is BB and a rep from the WG, most likely Imu. Not my fault you don’t notice the very easy patterns to spot from Oda. If he fights Akainu and not Imu all the Joyboy stuff goes nowhere, along with half the things you mentioned for Akainu being made redundant for when he fights Bb. But yes label me as a Yonkotard when I’m advocating for Imu.
@garou417 Жыл бұрын
There are 3 sub categories of combat strength that are important to swordsmanship in One Piece that we know of. 1.Sword skill(Look at Zoro in Wano) 2.Haki(Look at Zoro in Wano) 3.Physical abilities like strength and speed(Look at Zoro in Wano) With this in mind isn’t it complete unsupported head canon that Shanks has better overall haki then Mihawk? We’ve never seen Mihawk try. Shanks haki feats simply boosts Mihawk that much higher. A swordsman isn’t gonna be stronger then the Worlds Strongest Swordsman. Narratively it’d make no sense and it’d undermine Zoros dream. Worlds Strongest Swordsman isn’t just a title that you get from having top tier sword skill. Looking at Zoro in Wano makes that crystal clear. Mihawk>Shanks
@mikearguelles6434 Жыл бұрын
Lol beating king is not put zoro to top tier and he can't split the sky, Zoro is wano are garbage like broken bones to blocking an attack, He is 5 year old kid who make small to kaido and last carried by enma🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@garou417 Жыл бұрын
@@mikearguelles6434 You missed the point of me bringing up Wano Zoro…..
@davidjohn2426 Жыл бұрын
@@garou417 Exactly. Oda has made it so clear that Mihawk > Shanks that I literally don't get how you can put Shanks above him.
@lemme3295 Жыл бұрын
@@garou417 no, you're totally right. Logically from what we know about swordmen and how Shanks fight, Mihawk should be stronger. The disconnect, I think, comes from the fact that Shanks throughout the story has constantly had more hype moments and has been more talked about by important characters, and usually the more you're hyped the stronger you are. So either you believe that's because Shanks is more narratively important to the story but that doesn't correlate to his strenght and Mihawk is still better, or Shanks has something up his sleeve that is not sword related so Mihawk is still the strongest swordman but not better overall. I personally hope Mihawk is stronger, it's just the simplest solution and the one with less problem for Zoro, but I can totally see Oda using some little trick to justify Shanks being stronger without negating Zoro's objective
@mikearguelles6434 Жыл бұрын
@@garou417 point if you think zoro gave good durability then don't compare kuma's prowless to the yonko, Zoro is more useless one he is carries by enma and like 5 year old kid who make small scar then kaido is like ah ok🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@randyrosales34967 ай бұрын
I never understood why people say anime is not canon. First of all just cause a KZbinr says it’s not canon doesn’t mean anything. Second oda is involved and friends with voice actors of the crew. You act like oda doesn’t know what’s happening in anime.
@windwaker017 ай бұрын
That doesn't make it canon, which it isn't
@randyrosales34967 ай бұрын
@@windwaker01 yes it does. In the anime it showed many times Zoro being a conqueror before it actually got confirmed. Now was the anime not canon
@yooo13t Жыл бұрын
Would old WhiteBeard beat Akinu 1v1? I got my money on whitebeard
@siddhartha894 Жыл бұрын
Old Whitebeard? Yea OLD AND SICK WHITEBEARD? no 💀
@yooo13t Жыл бұрын
@@siddhartha894 i feel like white beard did pretty well even though he was tired. A fresh white beard probably would have beaten akinu in a 1v1
@tarikizgua1835 Жыл бұрын
@@yooo13tnope
@desmondgovender3142 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe so...wb and akainu did clash and they stalemated when cheapshots was not involved.i believe akainu will outlast old wb
@Blindbarber699 Жыл бұрын
Kidd and law weaker than wc island luffy
@KBhunterx262 Жыл бұрын
The top 5 is reasonable but the rest of the list is extremely questionable 😂
@thehonoredonereal Жыл бұрын
Law destroys zoro the zoro agenda is crazy. 😂😂😂😂
@davidjohn2426 Жыл бұрын
It's that Advanced Conquerors Haki tax. Zoro > Law
@thehonoredonereal Жыл бұрын
@@davidjohn2426 by this logic zoro now is stronger than the Admirals the zoro agenda is crazy
@davidjohn2426 Жыл бұрын
@@thehonoredonereal No, because we haven't seen the admirals fight or go all out. We don't know if they have it or not.
@someoneelse3456 Жыл бұрын
@@thehonoredonereal Law is not an admiral.
@thehonoredonereal Жыл бұрын
@@someoneelse3456 yes he is.
@jonathanpeterson3603 Жыл бұрын
i really do like your analysis but can you stay on topic. first hour has very little to do with the topic at hand