MS MARVEL TRAILER REACTION | WHY MARVEL DESERVE RESPECT | Double Toasted

[@big2033]

Marvel has always been diverse. And Marvel has always offered readers a ton of options. Some characters you love, some you don't.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Especially for the X-Men.

[@D12345]

But many hated iron heart.

[@palaniuki]

@@D12345 Because she was badly introduced

[@big2033]

@@D12345 Not every character works but also, not every character is for everyone. I never read much Guardians of the Galaxy but people did. Had no interest in Squirrel Girl, but people did.

[@D12345]

@@palaniuki yes that is the point.

[@jcboyle82]

I unironically heard someone complain cause they thought she was named Kamala because of the Vice President. Some people think too much about politics and somehow know less than people who don’t think about it all.

[@robertpaige4505]

Wasn't she still the DA of San Francisco when Kamala Khan was created?

[@jcboyle82]

@@robertpaige4505 yeah probably. But this person had never heard of Kamala Kahn and since it was new to them it MUST be new in general. 🙄

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

That's when you know they haven't picked up a book,ever..Another keyboard rant that gets comic info from CBR.

[@CLDJ227]

22:35 "Diversity does not mean woke" Thank you for saying that Billy, I agree not every attempt to have diversity in media is people trying to be "woke". Also, 25:28 great point Korey, I've been thinking that for a while that the people who tend to not understand the need for diversity or wanna argue some reverse-discrimination argument are usually people that are too use to seeing themselves represented all the time.

[@shindean]

And Scorsese showed exactly why he's got to beg Netflix for money to make anymore of his films. A new Scorsese film? Gee, let me guess, it has a bunch of racist white Italians with very little dialogue and screen time to the women who have a complete lack of autonomy? -_-

[@guybeleeve]

This is the first time I’ve seen these guys get aggressively political. They need to do that more, especially after Ryan kennel’s garbage review of The Batman. All those bastards see is race, they probably hate count chocula because he’s brown.

[@zakeden1353]

Agreed on all points! I loved this video, I don't think I've seen/heard anyone argue against people screaming "woke" or people complaining about female/diverse leads so well. Definitely will remember their talking points for the future.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Yup. Over the time, I feel like "woke" lost its meaning whenever it becomes repetitive in every senstence, much like the aforementioned "es-jay-dubalyooz" (I still loathed them but I cared less about them) which it shows that those haters still haven't moved on from the controversies of Ghostbusters 2016 or Captain Marvel.

[@CLDJ227]

@@guybeleeve DT gets pretty political all the time, and here it was less them being political and more them addressing an age old problem with diversity in Hollywood.

[@zaktookthis1341]

This trailer better be indicative of what the show is gonna be. Im loving all this style and the notebook comic bubbles! Something I can absolutely watch with my daughter!

[@Peasham]

80% sure it was just for the trailer, Marvel hates creativity lol

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

I agree. My son is exited for this. He likes Ms Marvel because of the Marvel game.

[@christhornycroft3686]

@@TheOneManWhoBeatYouthis show has both. It’s a win win.

[@SmartDave60]

Anti woke crowd would be ok if she were playing the villain.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yes they would

[@moxyblackfiddler]

Or just a side character. They apply that word to everything they see.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@It aint no thing And they did it again with Shang Chi. Due to how successful the film is, it looks like these guys never learned everything about Captain Marvel.

[@mikayelalikhanyan1587]

@It aint no thing eh black panther I'd say is OK but cpt marvel was a trashfire to me and I'm not saying this bcs I'm "anti woke" that's just how I feel

[@snaketooth0943]

@@mikayelalikhanyan1587 yeah, captain marvel wasn'r great but I thought it was worth watching for the comedy-especially the stuff with the flerken, the alien cat creature.

[@ericng7015]

I think her power here is more cosmic related, since she will be connected to Captain Marvel and she will be in The Marvels

[@nexusaquarion9281]

Probably bracelet are cosmic and over time they get into her dna 🧬 but she does not walk on air right that new so they probably do something like anime thing like A projection Colossus thing

[@DuelaDent52]

Isn’t that more Quasar’s thing, though?

[@thnzxc]

@@DuelaDent52 Yes

[@thoomolong]

@@nexusaquarion9281 She probably isn't an Inhuman in the MCU. She might have the bands instead of Quasar or any of the old Captain Marvels.

[@nexusaquarion9281]

True but what is wrong with stretch powers ??

[@antwanjenkins6735]

Surprisingly I like this trailer more than I thought I would. I love how this trailer has a fun 80's feel to it and surprisingly her new powers didn't bother me none. I like her stretchy powers from the comics but her new powers are actually pretty good here and they do keep the spirit of the comics in this show.

[@thebossrayden]

The 80s feel is from the Weeknd song. Clever.

[@boomstickcritique902]

Eh looks like a OK kids show this isn't for me you can be as diverse as possible doesn't make it a good series.

[@corneliusfarrell8673]

@@thebossrayden Blinding by the lights

[@antwanjenkins6735]

@@boomstickcritique902 I agree, just because there is diversity in it doesn't equal quality, it's about good writing and hopefully the show has that. I'm not hyped for it but I am looking forward to seeing it.

[@thebossrayden]

@@boomstickcritique902 conversely are things not good of they don't appeal to you personally?

[@GO-GO_SO-SO]

Billy brought up a good point. There are these people that screech "It's woke!" to pretty much anything. To these people, woke seems to describe any sort of change from the status quo.

[@Jar0fMay0]

"Woke" is not popular with mainstream audiences. People can tolerate "woke messages" in small amounts, but people want to be entertained not preached too. Now it doesn't mean it can't work, look at Steven Universe for an example.

[@478Johnnyboy]

To those people anything woke is anything non white. I had to unsubscribe from a guy who covered marvel D+ shows because he started to complain about things being woke. When imo they weren’t. Sprinkle in some flat out sexist, racist, incel like comments and i dropped the dudes channel.

[@jennaywilliams1024]

Good well wake your arse up and be in support of reparations for Foundational black Americans.

[@Jar0fMay0]

@@jennaywilliams1024 no

[@Delboy0]

@@Jar0fMay0 Spider-Man is diverse, black Panther where movies with a ‘woke’ presentation and made more money than any other stand alone Marvel movie. Let’s be real woke to many white people means anything from a non-white perspective because too often the white perspective has been seen as a default and ‘normal’ perspective in Hollywood and life. so many white people especially right wingers don’t want this to change and feel representation of others means they are losing something like power or influence. Black Panther has the lowest audience Rotten Tomatoes because racist review bombed it because they didn’t like that a big budget black movie made so much money. Pathetic. the world has become global and that means people of colour who make up the majority have more power and influence than ever before and Marvel is the only Hollywood studio who realises this.

[@thecoolblacknerd]

Naw they switched up her power set because of Mr Reed Richards aka Mr Fantastic coming to the MCU and the visual affects for both characters would’ve be to similar

[@famousthaneus9810]

there's a plethora of characters with the same power-set or tech running around (most of whom are active) in the MCU right now though

[@IAmWhachanoMagano]

@@famousthaneus9810 Yeah, but Reed Richards is the OG. Gotta introduce the stretching ability with him first before a newer character like Ms. Marvel.

[@famousthaneus9810]

@@IAmWhachanoMagano That literally makes no sense though, especially since Marvel’s shown they’re aware that their audience has seen these characters portrayed in other media before. The whole Mr. Fantastic thing is a fan theory anyway, and it’s perplexing because people have thrown fits over way less with MCU changes

[@IAmWhachanoMagano]

@@famousthaneus9810 We're not talking other Media though, I'm talking about introducing him in the MCU. Even if let's say they introduce Reed Richards (Ioan Gruffudd) in the Multiverse of Madness for example; I personally think that it's better for them to introduce the original elastic man first.

[@YungLanxx]

@@famousthaneus9810 what examples of plethoras of characters with similar powers or tech that aren’t connected at all? I think that’s one aspect people are missing Captain America and Winter Soldier tie in to one another. Hulk and She Hulk, Ant Man and Wasp, Iron Man and War Machine, etc. I personally feel it’s obvious they’re giving her kree nega bands rather than making her an inhuman not only because yes her powers are much too similar to an “OG character” she shares no connection to, but to give her an extra connection to Captain Marvel herself. You guys saying taking away her stretching powers takes away from her character traits and development haven’t watched a lick of the show outside the trailers so none of us know how they will manage her character progression, with or without stretchy powers.

[@zod4365]

FINALLY AN ADULT CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS!!! THANK YOU!!! Man....you guys have no idea, I'm sure you do, how many ignorant people have seen this trailer and just "hated it." This trailer?!? The most wholesome trailer out. Thank you for having an adult and educated conversation about this.

[@baileyrowe15]

I’m happy we’re getting different cultures and characters. Not all white people are racist angry people alright 😂

[@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow]

just the vast majority :|

[@youngmeth87]

Not all of em but everyone who using the word “woke” everytime they see a person of color or lgbtq makes me wonder

[@kualalumpurheart8154]

@Jerryberry boopboop 🙄

[@kualalumpurheart8154]

@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow 🙄

[@fnspidey3825]

@@youngmeth87 IF YOU'RE PUSHING "THE MESSAGE" THAT'S WHAT MAKES SOMETHING WOKE

[@MsDiving1]

I’m really excited to watch this with my tween niece. She likes Marvel, and considers herself a fan, but I’ve never seen her as enthusiastic about a show/movie as she was after watching this trailer. I am just so glad that they’re starting to offer content specific to so many different groups, and I’m perfectly fine not being the target audience for some of them if it means other folks get their time in the sun.

[@babytoshiro7014]

I really hopes she likes it. I might watch it even if I'm not the target demographic

[@IAmKyndle]

I agree with Billy with this whole “Woke” culture fanatic. It is such a scapegoat for people who want for everything to stay the same and never change or evolve. I welcome it. And I think Marvel is expanding at least in terms of diversity. You can make the argument that in terms of story superhero movies are becoming formulated but product wise, Marvel does it great.

[@kingbullyrock8739]

Okay, lets cast an Arab woman as Miles Morales and a South Asian man as the next black panther

[@JohnnyZenith]

I find it boring that it's almost always (actually always) through an American lens. What about a British, German, Swedish, Muslim, Jewish, whatever superhero not based in the US? Either way if people are looking forward to this then that's a nice thing.

[@ctl6985]

@@kingbullyrock8739 I don't really like random changes in roles. I'd still like a comic accurate Barbara Gordon as we haven't had one in at least the big screen. That being said what does your reply have to do with what the original comment was

[@slingshot3615]

@@kingbullyrock8739 You're doing a strawman. No one is saying that.

[@user-th1pv6ks5o]

?? When did the term "woke" come back in resurgence. When did people start getting triggered by the term using it not in an ironic sense. When did people older than 25 start using it at all. I thought that term died in 2016, when people say it in a serious tone with a lot of aggression in 2022 it feels really weird because that was just something we all said when making a good point. There was some political stuff mixed in on Twitter with people using the term but it was Twitter. The term feels heavy like talking about the ramifications of gentrification now a days when in 2018 it was giving the same weight as the term "your done," or "no cap." I am just genuinely curious because seeing a term being used by a bunch of teenagers and young adults turned into this serious discussion about representation in media by people who don't fit the stereotype of people using it in 2018ish is very jarring.

[@jman2856]

The polymorph powers were there to explore Kamala’s insecurities as a superhero and as a person. Them being weird and uncomfortable was the point, she embraced them and it made it cool in her own way as her series went on. I don’t see how that’s going to be as compelling with Green Lantern powers unless they’re just building toward polymorph later.

[@docdirtymrclean3610]

i disagree. A good writer can make a power to boil eggs compelling. From what has been shown so far, it looks decent. i would reserve such a strong opinion without seeing the product. Marvel is no slouch.

[@famousthaneus9810]

@@docdirtymrclean3610 The thing about her polymorph abilities & why many are so stuck on this change, is that when she first tried to save ppl, she would use her abilities to shapeshift & appear as Carol Danvers. She didn’t believe in herself as a brown hero right off the bat, so she thought it would be easier to appear as a blonde White woman. When she stopped doing that & saved people looking like herself, a Brown girl, it was powerful. It’s hard to believe that we’ll get that same arc/impact with construct powers.

[@junaydfisher211]

@@docdirtymrclean3610 you could make it compelling, but it wouldn't be the same story, I'm not saying it has to be 100% 1:1 to the comics, but her powers being weird looking, played into the themes and messages of her story, she was already insecure, felt that she wasn't represented in society, she had powers that weren't appealing, but then she found out she can use it to look like her favorite superhero who was white, with her powers she can shapeshift and turn white, because of her specific abilities, she then has to learn to be her own superhero and be comfortable in her own skin, and eventually the "gross" powers become cool

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

If they do this show like Scott Pilgrim vs the World, I'm more intrigued, because THAT was a very underrated film,and it was faithful to the source material.

[@478Johnnyboy]

I feel every Marvel D+ show thus far has done some things differently and broke the marvel formula in someway…..and even that was met with complaints. So you really can’t please everyone.

[@shindean]

I think the only ones complaining are the same ones thinking that the Snyder cut was for the fans and not because WB had absolutely no idea what to do with their own streaming service.

[@SDIBINGA]

Because they've been terrible besides WandaVision. They dont know how to tell a story anymore

[@shindean]

@@SDIBINGA tell us you want the Snyder Universe back without saying so

[@478Johnnyboy]

@@SDIBINGA Its that right there that i don’t understand. People kept saying they need to break the MCU formula and imo they’ve tried with nearly every show with the only ones that did the least mold breaking being Hawkeye and Falcon and Winter Soldier. Even in Falcon and WS they did some new things but again you can’t please everyone.

[@randall-thehorrorwriter]

The term "Woke" implies that the movie is pushing a certain political messageor idealogical belief based on the views of the author. The people who use it for diversity are just using it wrong on purpose making them ignorant. The pushing of a message in a heavy handed way as if the character stops and looks into the camera to say "This is what you need to be doing." that's how the term should be used. But I wonder why no one ever brings up movies produced, writen & starring Robert Townsend or Mario Van Peebles & his Father. These men did amazing things inspite of Hollywood for the black culture, and all people ever talk about when it comes to Black movies is Black Panther. By not showing respect to those who were doing it when times were much harder is leaving their accomplishments in the shadows cause they didn't have giant corporations and billions behind them. What Disney is doing now is great but they do get a little heavy handed sometimes yes, much as we all do when we want to share something we believe in. Ms Marvel isn't woke she's an idea, for some little girl who, has never seen someone who looks like her on a screen in a lead role. Now if she spends every episode trying to convert viewers to Islam then she'd be woke. This just looks like an old school John Hughes coming of age story with super powers and if people are hating on happy then that's just sad.

[@bendu8282]

Ms.Marvel should be acknowledged as an individual. The fact that Korey kept bringing up the fact that she’s Muslim and kept mentioning diversity shows that those are what really matter to him when it comes to her getting a Disney plus show. This is the issue with Wokeness, the character doesn’t matter what matters is the fact that they’re looks or image check a diversity check box. It’s not just keeping the politics secondary and not heavy handed or non existent if they’re not relevant in the first place it’s the fact that this character isn’t acknowledged as an individual as much as she’s acknowledged for being a Muslim superhero by her creators, writers and the audience. This is why the runs on the character kept failing despite her fanbase because most marvel fans weren’t interested in this character when she came out due to her just being made to fill a diversity check box. Most of the all new all different marvel characters could’ve been successful if the focus was on the characters themselves rather then filling a diversity check box and marvel preaching about how relevant they were. Peter Parker is acknowledged for being an individual character with personal struggles of a hero rather then being a Jewish superhero because Steve Ditko & Stan Lee said he was Jewish back in the 60’s.

[@jimbrown5091]

I agree, but "Algorithm"...KZbin's core demographic doesn't know Mario Van Pebbles, let alone Melvin, or Townsend, or the Hudlin Bros, or Spike Lee or Gina Prince Bythewood...even going back to the Poitier-Cosby collaborations. Plus DT isn't really "that" channel. People would be freaked out if Korey and Martin did a deep dive on black directors.

[@psycho9815]

People are not talking about black movies when they reference black panther they're are talking about super hero movies and lets face it there's never been anything like black panther when it comes to superhero movies...i know people like to bring up blade or spawn but they are not the same at all

[@ctl6985]

@@bendu8282 So what's the point of them saying he's Jewish if it never comes up. That sounds like a cop out to where people pretend to be diverse but it's very surface based. That's neither here or there though. If you've ever watched anything from DT you'd know he'll point out if she's not actually a well rounded character. And I keep hearing about how the characters aren't fully defined from people who made a big deal out of not reading the books

[@bendu8282]

@@ctl6985 Double Toasted is a channel based on opinions. If Korey is not as invested into something he won’t give his 💯 percent effort into analyzing it and even if he did he still could get things wrong because there are things he wouldn’t understand. Also Peter Parker being Jewish didn’t define him and it wasn’t the most relevant thing to his character he just happened to be Jewish early on in his early comics. He was a Jewish kid in the 60’s bitten by a radioactive spider and gained spider powers as a result. He just so happens to be Jewish and that’s not extremely important overall to him being Peter Parker or Spider-Man so the same approach should be made with Ms.Marvel. If they worked on her individuality more and what makes her a hero start with she has a better chance.

[@davidruiz2474]

I think they gave her the powers to be more aligned with Monica Rambeux and Carol Danvers in that their powers are cosmic related... Plus they didn't want people to be confused with two people with the same powers once Mr. Fantastic is introduced

[@SteinarrBattlefist]

I think it could also have to do with the difficulty of making the stretching powers actually look good in live action. If they can find a way to get the effect right somewhere down the line, they could have her develop comic accurate powers and simply explain that it's due to exposure to cosmic energy.

[@famousthaneus9810]

@@SteinarrBattlefist If that were the reason, it doesn't bode well for Mr. Fantastic then

[@Victor.A.]

By that that logic, why wouldn't they confuse her with Carol or Monica? Similar powers, and Similar name. Who would confuse a 40 year old white dude with Kamala?

[@VEZOK54]

We’re about to have two Thors in this universe, so that Mr. Fantastic point makes zero sense.

[@rhashadcarter2051]

Kamala and mr fantastic don’t look alike how could they be confused with one another 😂. They had quicksilver and Makarri, Iron man and war machine, black panther and Golden Jaguar. and many other examples of ppl with the same abilities or skill sets.

[@arthurzeer753]

I think her having this type of power is a universal choice because mutants and metahumans are not introduced yet, Basically since they haven't introduced mutants and inhumans but they did introduce cosmic powers then it makes sense in the context of the universe.

[@JakeTylenol]

Kamala Kahn isn’t a mutant, she’s an inhuman, which marvel owns not universal

[@joshbrosh6626]

@@JakeTylenol you completely missed what they meant by universal Its not the studio they are just describing the choise of her powers

[@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg]

@@JakeTylenol lol

[@JakeTylenol]

@@joshbrosh6626 my mistake then

[@rhashadcarter2051]

Inhumans were tho. In agents of Shield and the show inhumans. they probably steered away from that because the inhumans show failed terribly.

[@madvillainy6845]

Nah. School was just boring to many people. If you were daydreaming or not paying attention, you were more normal than you know.

[@darryljack6612]

As someone who is a big fan of Ms.Marvel it does kind of get under my skin how they changed her powers and maybe her origin of how she exactly got them, because in the comic when she first got her powers there was an amazing message about self identity and who she is as a person. I do have hope for it, and it looks like it is capturing the coming of age side pretty well.

[@rajabuta]

consequences of inhuman flopping sadly

[@darryljack6612]

@@rajabuta I know it sucks, even so they still didnt need to change her power set or origin. The could have made like a static shock situation for her. Some gas gets spread near the party she's at. It can be anything really, she still get the strange cocoon and still has the same dream as in the comics. But im still holding out hope, sense i love the character

[@laurenj6802]

Yeah me too, the only reason I can see them changing it is because they don't want people to be confused with Mr. Fantastic when Fantastic Four comes out.

[@upgrade1015]

Gross 🤮 you are a fan of Mrs marvel hahaha weak as hell

[@rajabuta]

@@darryljack6612 they can't have her original power without inhumans. Well, technically they can. But eh xD

[@BudokaiTH]

Ms. Marvel is one hero that needed the spot light. I like the random animation bubbles that pop up, similar to the old teen shows I saw in Disney back in the day. Adds a bit of charm too it and makes it stand out.

[@bobagucci502]

I love watching 40+ grown men lose their S about a show that's clearly for kids.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yes, every time a non white character is introduce people seem to lose their minds lol

[@Hedgehog-gk5rw]

Sonic Movie 2 final trailer just got released recently! You guys gonna discuss that?

[@omerfarooq6822]

Thank you, Double Toasted crew! As a Pakistani Muslim myself this is a big deal because growing up I had no Pakistani people in movies to look up to In Hollywood and now getting a Pakistani hero makes my inner child real happy! Diversity and representation is really important especially for Muslims seeing as how Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world 🌎 ☪️ there are a lot of us

[@fnspidey3825]

You need someone of your skin color to look up to? Sounds kinda bad

[@omerfarooq6822]

@@fnspidey3825 It’s more than just a skin tone, buddy. Of course I had people I still looked up to and related to but someone like me, from my background, with the language I spoke and the traditions we had? I’d never seen that. I’m sure a lot of coloured people can relate to this type of feeling. You’ve seriously missed the point if you think it’s just about skin tone.

[@TheDarkknightrules92]

Race I get. But promoting Islam is as problematic as promoting Christianity. Its a religion that you choose to follow.

[@myles7453]

I can look past the power change as long as it's used well, it looks like it'll help tie her in to Carol & Monica. I agree with what Korey said, that despite the negatives people said on Marvel, give them credit for at least trying and giving chances with these characters. We wouldn't have a great live action black directed Black Panther film, or LGBTQ heroes like Wiccan and America Chavez coming because of Marvel taking chances.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

yup and this is the issue many have with the MCU calling it "woke" and "MSHEU", there are many that just want to hate this show. They were hating when it was first announced. The powers is not the issue for many. Many of these characters are different from the comics. If Thanos had his real powers, He would have wrecked the whole battle field in Endgame.

[@awsomeboy360]

The MCU is still meh though for the part. It doesn't really though much with most of these titles.

[@douggchidorihabbo]

@@awsomeboy360 yea Forreal, I think people on both sides just too extreme. MCU is just mid af imo, same ol story just a new “representation” every movie. It’s cute or whatever not kino cinema or anything tho

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

@@douggchidorihabbo There are people on no sides. Many are stuck in their echo chambers. people need to detach from political parties and become independent. The loyalties to these political parties is crazy

[@douggchidorihabbo]

@@kicknowledgesmith8608 one day out shackles will be freed brother

[@palaniuki]

So we clap and forget how not long ago Disney was very OK with working on Mulan just near concentration camps filled with Muslims ? That's how it is ?

[@Damar158]

Or is currently supporting a bill in Florida to 'Don't Say Gay' in Florida, or stomped hard on any LGBT references in Turning Red, and cancelled Owl House for having a lesbian protagonist? Disney is not woke, it does the most minimal token shit to make people applaud it, consume product and get excited for next product.

[@palaniuki]

@@Damar158 Exactly

[@rolling.reggie]

I've been a huge fan of Ms. Marvel from her comics and in other media. Excited for this one. She is so relatable and charming.

[@plucas1]

Kamala's power artifacts look a lot like the NegaBands, which were owned in the comics by Mar-Vell, the first Marvel Comics Captain Marvel. Among other things, I think they're meant to more closely tie her with the whole Captain Marvel mythos they're trying to build.

[@hazardouscereal9817]

Her powers in the mcu are like Quasar’s powers in the comic because Quasar gets their power from bracelets which Kamala has in the trailer

[@bendu8282]

Interesting observation

[@valeryh3364]

How come you guys haven't acknowledged Sonic Movie 2 at all? The final trailer just came out recently

[@Peasham]

As a Sonic fan... yeah, I ain't too fond of the reference humor solely forming the movie's humor.

[@valeryh3364]

@@Peasham what do you mean?

[@Peasham]

@@valeryh3364 Most of the movie's jokes in the trailers are bad reference humor, where they don't actually SAY a joke, they just reference something and you're supposed to laugh. Shit's embarrassing.

[@valeryh3364]

@@Peasham I don't see or understand what you're talking about. Everyone is having a great time with it and it looks amazing. It just doesn't make sense for them to do it for the first movie but not the second. Especially if it's a very popular icon

[@Peasham]

@@valeryh3364 Dude, they repeat the winter soldier joke in the newest trailer TWICE, you know what I'm talking about. No one's having a great time with it, it's not out yet. And it doesn't make sense for them to do what for the first movie, make it good?

[@BingBong-pm6rn]

Can you guys discuss Sonic Movie 2 Final trailer? I really really wanna see what y'all think and are expecting it's gonna be. Everyone else is loving it so far, based on the trailers

[@dramonmaster222]

I am torn on the different origin of her powers here. On the one hand, it makes sense since the MCU doesn't have the Inhumans. On the other hand, it's an adaption so they can do what they please. I will just miss her being the female version of Mr. Fantastic.

[@robertpaige4505]

That's the thing: Her powers aren't "Is Stretchy." She's a shapeshifter. When her powers first manifested, she turned into a duplicate of Carol Danvers (in her Warbird phase). "Stretchy" is just the way she used her powers in battle.

[@JDotWill]

It’s Marvel so I’m always going to go in with a healthy optimism. They’ve earned that. They haven’t made anything objectively bad in a very long time

[@snaketooth0943]

I don't believe in the concept of objective measurements of quality in art. Personally, I believe it's all down to personal taste, but I know what you mean: somthing that the majority of people dislike.

[@MJ-jd7rs]

The biggest formulaic thing against marvel moves are the criticisms people have against them.

[@eon001]

27:50 I think Miles can easily co star in the next Holland trilogy. Peter could be his tutor, then they can build to him being his mentor when he get's powers.

[@hope-cat4894]

Haven't the Ms. Marvel comics been out for a while and are pretty well liked? I guess non-comic fans never heard of her, so that's why some people got mad. It's not like she came from out of the blue.

[@KKarama1]

I hope the show succeeds, not alot of good shows lately from Marvel for the kids.

[@Asupernaruto1]

That's your opinion if you don't like them, some of the shows has dark themes in them then you have not even aware of.

[@jennaywilliams1024]

It's like they showcase we as humans are powerless unless we work for the government or some top secret agency.

[@slingshot3615]

I hope it succeeds so the anti-woke crowd can be more triggered.

[@mochammadrizaldy1205]

@@slingshot3615 first off all, this character isnt woke, in fact her story in the comics are brilliant. Just because she is different from the general looks in america, doesnt mean she is woke. 2nd, if there anti-woke complaint this just let it be, because their complaints are not valid

[@bendu8282]

@@slingshot3615 and if it doesn’t succeed are you gonna blame the anti-woke crowd if it fails?

[@Omar-wq9dz]

My main apprehension for this show, and the upcoming ones too, is how the previous MCU shows don’t always stick the landing with every episode, since some slow the pace and story down, or are underwhelming

[@lightdarksoul2097]

Well isn't that with every show? No matter how good they are, there are always lesser episodes

[@luffylength]

How does this critique not apply to every television show ever

[@creed8712]

@@luffylength because most television shows aren’t 6-8 episodes long so when one really sucks it shows a lot more than a 24 episode series with 7 season that you can go “well the first 2 seasons were weak”

[@alphabetbeer]

I agree, I really hated how Falcon ended on such a weak moment. It sets up all these issues with race, class, immigration, and then ends it with him finger wagging at some politicians to "Do better" rather than ousting the racist asshats from power. Or really calling for any systemic or significant change at all from the status quo. The last episode and a half of that show were painful.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

@@alphabetbeer I mean while true, his speech did change things. We see that in Far from Home. In that it showed they satrted caring more about those left behind and sadly yeah it meant the ones dusted were more on their own but places like FEAST were made.

[@Omar-wq9dz]

Having seen the trailer, it feels like the show is giving off the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies vibe with the story and high school setting

[@thoomolong]

As a black man who is in the age group of Martin and Korey and grew up in the same nerd and comic book culture I gotta say: I don't think live action Miles Morales is going to be as popular as you think he will be.

[@KutluMizrak]

Depends on the actor. You really need someone tuned into the unique characteristics of Miles.

[@Soundwave_King1]

They just need to stick to the animated Miles

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

That's so cool that Billy brought up Donald Glover when talking about an MCU Miles Morales/Kid Arachnid story,since he played the role of Miles' uncle in Homecoming.(a great Easter egg moment)

[@_moegreen5770]

As a black man I’m all for diversity. But I’m not even gonna lie. The show looks very CWish 😂 hopefully it’s good but maybe I’ve outgrown young adult shows like this

[@kelv]

double toasted still on a run ! always love when you guys drop

[@bensneb360]

If I’m being honest, this is the tone and style I wish the MCU Spider-Man movies had used, it just fits more of that 80’s John Hughes feel they we’re trying to evoke

[@mechaocean170]

Completely agree. They botched the whole Hughes thing with the Spider-Man movies (Shazam! did it better imo), but this looks like a chance to get it right.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Honestly, I would have liked it if they let Peter be an adult in the beginning and let him be a more experience Spider-Man

[@thoomolong]

That is the tone thoe movies had. Now they need to grow Spidey up and make him college age or post college.

[@BlueCheeseLucci]

@@babytoshiro7014 Well it looks like your getting that anyway

[@babytoshiro7014]

@@BlueCheeseLucci That's not what i said

[@affmcustoms]

You guys are misrepresenting the argument, and before you accuse me of anything I'm a Peruvian immigrant and I love my culture. However, as a comic book fan and marvel fan in general, it's not that we have a problem with representation, we have a problem when the only thing that matters is representation. My favorite character has and will always be Spider-Man. I grew up with the comics and the 90s cartoon, it never and has never bothered me tha Peter was white. He was relatable, he was a well written character with real world problems along with his super hero problems. And here is the thing about Spider-Man he was designed to be relatable, he wasn't designed to be white, it didn't really matter who was under the mask. That's why I love Into the Spider-Verse so much, they nailed that point across and they effectively made Miles a better character. The biggest problem with Miles is that for a long time he just came off as a Peter Parker clone, but black and latino. So it just seemed like representation for representations sake. This is the bigger problem with the current shift in pushing representation the way it's been done recently. Most of the time it just feels like lip service and frankly that's insulting. I don't need to see myself represented solely based on the color of my skin, I like to think there is more to me than my skin color or sexual orientation and I would like to think the same goes for these fictional characters. There should be more to them than just their skin color or orientation or what have you. What I do need is interesting and compelling characters with compelling stories. Let that be the driving force and then add representation and diversity into that. You mentioned Scorsese and the like not pushing for diversity, but guess what they don't need to. They weren't writing stories that had to do with that, so pushing it would have seemed disingenuous and pandering. Diversity for diversities sake does not for a good story make. That's why when newer writers, and I hate the term woke, but let's be honest that's what a lot of these newer writers are, when they write stories for comics they do some of the most pandery shit. They want to take legacy characters and change them to fit their narrative, or they make new characters where the defining characteristic is whatever diverse quality they have. Or worse yet, they make legacy character look worse in comparison in order to prop up their newer shit characters. And it's frankly insulting when you guys just get pissed of at the void and lump everyone in one box. So now anyone who has a problem is automatically a bigot who doesn't want to see representation. And it has nothing to do with that. It's not that we don't want to see representation, I just don't want that to be the driving force. Let that be interwoven naturally. And I'm speaking for myself obviously, but I'm pretty sure there a lot of people who share this mentality. I have no problem with Kamala Kahn as a character, other than she is a fan of captain marvel who has been a shit written character for longer than she has been well written. I mean there are so many other well written characters to choose from like She Hulk. It makes more sense in the comics though where Captain Marvel has done more, but in the MCU not so much. She was around in the 90s and then helped out a little in Endgame. I don't know how that would leave such an impression on a kid, when you have other much more interesting characters in the mcu to pull from, but I'm sure the show will explain something. Anyway, this isn't to say that the show will be bad, I personally just never understood why Kamala idolized Captain Marvel and it always seemed like marvel trying to prop Captain Marvel as a character and prop her comic book sales. Anyway I'm getting side tracked. Kamala's powers also seemed kinda shit, she was basically Mr. Fantastic, but she mostly just did big fists and that's just kinda lame. So the change for the show looks promising. I guess we will see. Anyway, I just wish you guys would keep that in mind when you go off on a rant about people not wanting diversity. Your arguments (and I mean mostly Korey) don't really allow for any nuance in the conversation. When you label everyone who disagrees with you as just disgruntled white people, you ignore the fact that comic books have always been for everyone, and it's not just white people who don't like the current direction the medium has gone in. Anyway take care.

[@bendu8282]

It’s pointless Korey seems to have bought into the mainstream expectations of wokeness when it correlates with what he likes and he’ll only call it out when it does something he doesn’t like. He’s pretty biased on this subject but it doesn’t matter, these guys are still funny so when they make comedic content that’s when this channel usually shines.

[@Peasham]

Minorities can also be racist. There were literal mandates stating that comic book characters cannot be black, yes, Spiderman WAS designed to be white, just like every other white superhero was, it was a conscious choice the artists made. Your prejudice is instantly shown when you say minority characters were designed to be minorities but white characters aren't, they are. The only different between then and now is artists having more freedom of expression. There is no nuance to the conversation, this is the true state of things.

[@affmcustoms]

@@bendu8282 yeah it annoys me when he takes such black and white perspectives, but yeah I still love these guys.

[@bendu8282]

@@affmcustoms it isn’t black and white perspectives it’s just idiocy

[@affmcustoms]

@@Peasham yeah I never said minorities can't be racist, I'm a latino mate I know we can be racist. I also never said Peter wasn't designed to be white, yeah he was obviously designed as a white character, I mean look at the time when he was designed thats just obvious. However, that doesn't make it racist. What I said is that wasn't the driving force. His whiteness wasn't the important thing. His struggles in balancing his life and how he handled his responsibility was the important thing. That's why Stan Lee and Steve Ditko made his suit a full bodied suit. It was to drive the point that it could be anyone under the mask. I also never said all minority characters are just designed to be minorities. I said when the main characteristic is the fact that they are minorities it is basically paying lip service.

[@marksalmoneussorcerersupreme]

The thing is that shes not a "muslim" shes a pakistani american muslim shes part of geek culture, writes fan fics and loves all the superheroes, and becoming a superhero is a dream come true for her which is a american fantasy that lots of us want. its what sets her apart from muslim characters like "Dust" who wears a burqa and chooses to wear it cause she values modesty and stuff.

[@Peasham]

Like all Abrahamic religions, Islam is inherently contradictory, meaning you can get quite literally any value out of it that you want. They're both Muslim.

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

I totally agree with korey marvel does deserve respect

[@phillyjackson45]

I suppose they changed her power a bit to combat having Mr. Fantastic coming into the universe soon and be similar to Captain Marvel

[@lilmissknowitall5775]

good point, I thought it was because it's SOOOO hard to make stretching powers look convincing since stretching human skin and certain textures usually looks really ropey

[@Zangetsu26780]

They said it would be difficult in a sense to project her powers to screen, which should have people wondering if they will change his powers as well.

[@Falcovsleon21]

Except the MCU already has multiple characters with the same powers between them already. Plus DC has 2 super stretchers in their universe. Why is it so wrong for Marvel to have 2?

[@neidhardt8093]

Meh, I really don't buy that personally. I don't think anyone would care about their powers being similar.

[@mttylerdurden9]

@@lilmissknowitall5775 and creepy as hell

[@TheAk1292]

Korey. Marvel is trying trying to diversify and increase its audience and that's good business. We also live in a time where they will get Twitter points for this. But let's not forget this is the same company who hid Chadwick Boseman's face on the Black Panther Chinese poster. Let's not forget that this is the same company who effectively removed John Boyega's face from the Chinese Star Wars poster. So let's not make this out to be more than it is. The show itself is a CW show for young teenage girls with added diversity for more Twitter points and that is fine, but again, let's not make this out to be more than it is.

[@hkr0065]

I think it's just about trying to stay positive regardless of the obvious negative shit behind the scenes. We already have enough negative stuff in the world.

[@bendu8282]

Ms.Marvel should be acknowledged as an individual. The fact that Korey kept bringing up the fact that she’s Muslim and kept mentioning diversity shows that those are what really matter to him when it comes to her getting a Disney plus show. This is the issue with Wokeness, the character doesn’t matter what matters is the fact that they’re looks or image check a diversity check box. It’s not just keeping the politics secondary and not heavy handed or non existent if they’re not relevant in the first place it’s the fact that this character isn’t acknowledged as an individual as much as she’s acknowledged for being a Muslim superhero by her creators, writers and the audience. This is why the runs on the character kept failing despite her fanbase because most marvel fans weren’t interested in this character when she came out due to her just being made to fill a diversity check box. Most of the all new all different marvel characters could’ve been successful if the focus was on the characters themselves rather then filling a diversity check box and marvel preaching about how relevant they were. Peter Parker is acknowledged for being an individual character with personal struggles of a hero rather then being a Jewish superhero because Steve Ditko & Stan Lee said he was Jewish back in the 60’s.

[@Peasham]

The entire point of Kamala's her growing into who she wants to be. As always, you people don't actually care about the art, only about disseminating your politics.

[@stayflyking]

I touched on this lightly with my own comment. If we're being honest no one cared about this character until she became live action and that will probably be the same with any of the unsuccessful newcomers they adapt to live action.

[@bendu8282]

@@stayflyking yep you said it.

[@bendu8282]

@@Peasham what politics am I promoting? Take your nonsense somewhere else.

[@Peasham]

@@bendu8282 The hatred of minorities by implanting the false notion that minorities make movies worse due to forced diversity.

[@victornewman06]

Martin: You writing for Shapiro now? Korey: They hiring? Billy: He ain't hiring your Black ass! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TKL626]

6:23 God, I remember how much bull crap that Inhumans vs X-Men storyline was when they really tried to push the Inhumans against the X-Men.

[@bendu8282]

Yeah wouldn’t you think The X-Men & Inhumans would get a long based on how similar they are.

[@DAREDEVILSHK1]

@@bendu8282 You must have not read the comic.

[@bendu8282]

@@DAREDEVILSHK1 I read The X-Men Vs The Inhumans years ago. I also read The Avengers Vs The X-Men years ago. I wasn’t the biggest fan of the X-Men Vs The Inhumans so you’re not gonna here much positive things from me about, I also only read it once so if I’m forgetting something that’s why.

[@DAREDEVILSHK1]

@@bendu8282 The Inhumans and the X-Men got along great before their fighting. The reason for their fight was due to the Terrigen Mist cloud that was traveling around the world, which ended up killing anyone with an x-gene. The X-Men were trying to replenish their race and couldn't do it with the cloud killing mutants and anyone with a recessive x-gene (which was killing off the potential for new mutants down the line), while the Inhumans were also trying to replenish their race but couldn't do it without the Mist, which put them at odds.

[@bendu8282]

@@DAREDEVILSHK1 Yep a lot of bad memories are now coming back. I guess I’m just not the biggest fan of that one. I’ll reread all of it one day and see if my opinions are still the same.

[@kamikazelemming1552]

Can't say I know anything about Kamala, since I stopped reading comics well before her debut (got tired of no consequences/characters always coming back to life), but I'm really interested in seeing what her show is going to be like. One thing I really enjoy about the MCU is that they keep superheroes fun.

[@agtl3168]

I'm personally glad they gave her a brown boyfriend lol. Love is love regardless of race. But i'm tired of the recent trend (and seems to be adopted by a lot of superhero movies these days) of having everyone brown or black with a white partner. In a way that just promotes the all too common stereotype about brown/black people not loving themselves and seeking out white partners.

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yes

[@rylade475]

I’m part Filipino and tbh I could care less whether something is diverse or correctly representing a culture or sexuality or whatever, I just care whether I’ll find it entertaining. The representation stuff is the least of my worries unless I find it massively offensive (blackface, “ching-chong” bs, etc). I’m not saying I hate how this is a Muslim character, she’s Muslim in the comics to begin with so naturally they’d have to represent that properly, and I can still give it praise for that. The moral is representation and diversity is not exactly a priority for me. That said, I am getting Homecoming vibes from this and I’m cool with how Kamala’s powers are explained here so I may give it a shot.

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

yup that;s cool and there are other Filipinos that feel differently. That's the beauty in all of this. There's content for everyone.

[@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011]

NO ONE CARES WHAT A FILIPINO IS WORRIED ABOUT . THIS AIN'T THE PHILIPPINES.

[@singingchef23]

I saw the trailer and what made me confused was the expression of her power. But I was blown away how beautifully they represented Ms Marvel. But the biggest draw for me was the color palette and the genuine family appeal. But the last thing I thought was, owe my WOKE. I guess watching Bollywood and pretty much every other country I'm used to seeing it.

[@kiryuchan2474]

Are y'all not gonna discuss sonic the hedgehog 2 final trailer? Surprised you haven't reacted to any of them.

[@bugeye177]

No

[@kiryuchan2474]

@@bugeye177 but why?

[@bugeye177]

@@kiryuchan2474 It's pretty obvious why.

[@silvernick65]

@@bugeye177 why?

[@BaithNa]

Marvel is pushing diversity because the source material has been about pushing diversity since the beginning of the medium. Comics have always been diverse and comic writers have always been diverse. Thank God we had guys like Stan Lee and the Shusters to help establish this level of respect for other cultures and traditions.

[@rickyd-lux9067]

If the Russo brothers had the same opportunity to make "Gangs of New York", it probably would have been better. If Scorsese had done Infinity War, it would have been a disaster.

[@babytoshiro7014]

hahaha I agreee

[@GoldieSC]

The trailer screams Freeform to me, BUT I'm glad these Disney Plus shows are going in several different directions. I hope my kids really enjoy this when we watch it.

[@blueroninstudios]

Hector Navarro said it best: Kamala Khan is this generation's Peter Parker! I couldnt agree more, although in a very different context, since Im male, mixed race, agnostic, and still a comic book fan in my 40's, but ...... I gotta say, seeing Kamala go from page to screen with all the enthusiasm and endearing qualities she has as a character, I havent been this excited to see a Marvel character just EXIST since Shang-Chi came out! Marvel is really going all out with representation, and Im not surprised at all, since they've ALWAYS been ahead of the curve since the 1960's, touching on issues like student protests, Vietnam and drug use back in the day, and fast forward to today, tackling themes like racism, women's struggles, being Muslim in America, etc. It's just a really great time to be a Marvel fan....but then again....it never hasn't!

[@ameliacraiig4193]

I agree, Billy. Btw, they aren't Welsh, they're English & one's a Jerseyman/British Crown Dependency.

[@NightWolfXVI]

What!! Nobody remembers the Movie called “Blade” with Wesley Snipes a Marvel Movie.

[@javier8015]

The problem isn't diversity the problem is Hollywood has this idea that diversity means bad writing/stories. No one had a problem with Princess Leia because she was a well written character but once you got to Rey she was written so badly people hated it.

[@Peasham]

Hollywood doesn't have this idea that diversity means bad writing and stories, Hollywood is bad at writing, which you're using as an excuse to shit on the diversity.

[@javier8015]

@@Peasham not true at all. Watch falcon and the winter soldier. Zemo US Agent and Bucky had really good character arcs in that show. Now look at all the minority characters and women did they do anything important the entire show?

[@Peasham]

@@javier8015 Dude, everyone here knows why you're really upset, pack it up.

[@javier8015]

@@Peasham why?

[@tagz3924]

The problem is everything is very one sided in Hollywood. Look at how they did Superman son made him gay and now now nobody buying the comic book because it’s trash and doesn’t have good story

[@dirtekinte7995]

Honestly, I just don't like Disneys trailer style. Let alone most trailers style today. I usually just wait for my friends opinions and then decide if I'm going to watch.

[@SeriousBlack1026]

Yo kamala khan debut in 2013 and folks acting like she was created just now for this show🤣.

[@ZachBobBob]

Marvel definitely take more risks and push things further than people give them credit for

[@babytoshiro7014]

Yes they do. Doing the endless Batman films is playing it safe. Marvel has been taking risks for years

[@silvernick65]

Not really a fan of marvel but this trailer.....was ok. Nothing too crazy to me at least. Oh Korey are y'all gonna react to the final trailer for Sonic Movie 2 at all?

[@valeryh3364]

Surprised they haven't honestly...

[@torterrapokemon7651]

Maybe they already saw it or something. Idk I thought for sure he'd react and discuss it with the DT group.

[@rabd3721]

This trailer clearly communicates the show is going to be for a younger audience, so I'm just flabbergasted by these cringey neckbeards getting triggered by it. Like, not every Marvel property will be for you, sorry. You're still going to spend your money on the new Thor movie, so just chill out.

[@EpictasticJoshua]

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

[@jimbrown5091]

Theories are it could be Quasar's Quantum Bands or Captain Marvel / Rick Jones Nega-Bands. I think they are going to stay away from the Inhumans aspect since that show really sh*t the bed.

[@masterrance]

I fully think they are using Rick's Negabands. I feel like they're combining his powers at the time to Kamala's storyline

[@katsasgeorge]

Mar-vell was in Cap Marvel, so it's entirely possible.

[@Falcovsleon21]

1:18 Literally the operating mentality of Comicsgate. 23:36 Thank you Korey.

[@Peasham]

I still can't get over Comicsgate freak comparing SINGLE ISSUES to volumes of manga lmao

[@Falcovsleon21]

@@Peasham Pah. Try Ethan “I can’t get a comic out in under 20 months but I CAN spend 3 hours a day on Zoom ranting about Marvel and DC trying to brainwash the public with their ‘woke agendas’” Van Sciver and his little cult.

[@noreehix5714]

Thank you so much Billy diversity does not mean woke!

[@200135673]

Don't let the geeks and gamers channel find out a Muslim women is leading role of a comic book movie

[@Peasham]

Why not, I love quirked up white boys raging

[@Peasham]

@@oneskillpoint4669 Racism and sexism.

[@AsherTheAwesomeONE]

Repackaging Scott Pilgrim in a new wrapping and putting it on Disney + gets no credit points. (Seeing how bad 99% of Disney plus shows have been, I have zero confidence this show will be good.)

[@AsherTheAwesomeONE]

Hawkeye..shit. Wanda…shit.. boba..shit.. Mando S1&2…decent… Loki…shit… I can keep going..

[@stayflyking]

I say let the kids have fun. I'm honestly more interested in Moon Knight and Morbius. I do wanna know how many Muslims are actually going to support this show because we all know that her comic was canceled a bunch of times. My theory with that is pretty simple. Nobody cares until it becomes a live action.

[@Peasham]

I'm not sure how something can be cancelled multiple times.

[@Dante_Infernape]

@@Peasham they keep giving her new comic series from different artists that don't last long

[@stayflyking]

@@Peasham It happens when the run of that comic doesn't sell. When they aren't a hit they slow down production of any potential new comics since they aren't successful. That's usually how they get canceled most times.

[@nyikomaswanganyi5983]

@@stayflyking Captain Marvel comics have failed many times too. People will watch the live action stuff since it's a connected Universe.

[@stayflyking]

​@@nyikomaswanganyi5983 You're right. I think that's also where the fans are divided too.

[@Peasham]

I hate how people are acting as though Marvel's pushing the envelope when it comes to diversity when DC's INFINITELY more radical (in a good way) with Doom Patrol. Like, I'm sorry, but Danny the Street ain't never gonna be topped by anything Marvel does lol

[@Delboy0]

This is why Marvel films are important. They are doing other Hollywood studios have neglected for far to long. Putting people of colour at the centre of the stories films and TV shows. That is why Marvel is so popular on every continent because people can see themselves in their movies. That is why it I hate it when you have old school directors like Scorsese or James Cameron who say Marvel is a bad thing, who in over 40 years of making movies never made a movie about non-white people. Marvel do real representation, not that fake Star Wars tokenism, where the stories are all about the white characters and people of colour are the side characters. And marvel gets rewarded for it in huge box office.

[@Peasham]

I mean, Marvel movies ARE bad, they're just also diverse. Quality's got nothing to do with diversity.

[@MsDiving1]

You could argue that the blue cat things from avatar were supposed to represent indigenous cultures but they might have been worse than no representation, so… yeah.

[@Delboy0]

@@Peasham If you don't like them then fine, but they get to high ratings from audiences to claim your opinion is correct. Contrarians are the worst. You feel cooler now?

[@SmartDave60]

Labeling something as woke is a way to avoid things that makes you uncomfortable.

[@babytoshiro7014]

yup

[@torterrapokemon7651]

When are you guys going to react to Sonic movie 2 final trailer? Or any of the trailers? You guys did it for the first movie so what happened?

[@Peasham]

It's seriously not that important.

[@Hedgehog-gk5rw]

@@Peasham it kinda is in a way...

[@Peasham]

@@Hedgehog-gk5rw It's not the best video game movie.

[@torterrapokemon7651]

@@Peasham bro yes it is lmao

[@Peasham]

@@torterrapokemon7651 Detective Pikachu folds it, no question.

[@natemakesbeats2138]

0:28 …. No

[@kingbullyrock8739]

Wow, this new Green Lantern movie looks amazing, great job DC!

[@rickyd-lux9067]

Marvel isn't the competition for indie movies. Streaming shows are what is supplanting "cinema".

[@IIBonafide]

Terrigen Mist is what triggers an Inhuman's metamorphosis. It comes from the Terrigen crystals.

[@McKnighty]

Am I the only one who thinks it looks like a CW show? Just isn't for me

[@thebossrayden]

To clarify, they didn't want to use the terrigen mist powers to distance itself from Mr.Fantastic and Ant Man. This is why they changed Shang Chi's powers too. This could be good or bad but changing it to an artifact with "green lantern" style imagination could be good or fail.

[@AsparagusVideo]

Just by going off the trailer, it says being a hero is having powers and a costume. This looks like another daydreamer becoming something they dream about because they're special.

[@elcidsecundo3097]

Hello, my name is Monkey D Luffy and I am going to be King of the Pirates!

[@deshunsmith7828]

A great point you all at DT crew made , cause I was a little not sure about it by it being to kids CW type. But great point.

[@F.Hakeem89]

With The MCU being formulaic and being the same thing is Valid them being "Woke" is stupid considering Marvel was always woke since the 60's.

[@Peasham]

60's? Try 40's with Captain America.

[@F.Hakeem89]

@@Peasham thanks for reminding me.

[@sternritternovad]

Though the show probably isn't my cup of tea, I thought the trailer was fantastic at establishing the tone and aesthetic.

[@meluiethbox844]

Honestly, I am still kinda upset that they changed her powers. Even if the source was different, because fuck the Inhumans, the stretchy body growing thing felt more unique, and tied more into her character as she didn’t have a cool flashy power like her idol, it was actually kinda gross, but she was able to make it cool. The whole trailer honestly didn’t hit me very hard, but at the same time I respect that something’s just not made for me. With The Batman having just dropped and Moon Knight coming out soon it’s nice to have a superhero property come out explicitly for kids instead of just edgy ass grown men like myself. I hope brown girls who are into superheroes like it.

[@rascoehunter3608]

I'm assuming that the CGI for her stretchy abilities probably looked off putting. CGI for human skin still looks wierd.

[@meluiethbox844]

@@rascoehunter3608 it looked fine enough in the game, at least tv show quality which is all anyone expected.

[@Funnycoolman11]

Wait, Korey are you relating to a character that's not the same race as you?! Interesting it's almost like the "seeing yourself" bs is media projected and you can relate to people who are not your race.

[@MsDiving1]

Look, everyone other than straight white men have spent most of their lives watching movies with characters different than them in movies not made for them. We’ve gotten good at relating to characters for other reasons because that was the only way to relate to them. Having said that, now that some stuff is being produced by folks with shared life experiences, there is a noticeable difference in how I can connect to works, and how much more real they feel to me. I realize that going backwards from having everything for you to losing that feeling of immersion must be uncomfortable, and I’m sorry for it, but that doesn’t make your experience the only one that matters.

[@bendu8282]

Exactly. If Korey can see himself in Khamala Khan then he can see himself in any character and the need for him to want the mainstream to make characters based only on diversity without the effort being put in on what makes them well written individual characters with an interesting plot is pretty sad.

[@Funnycoolman11]

@@MsDiving1 I mostly watch Korean TV shows so I don't know wtf you are talking about. No, you choose to watch shows with straight white male leads. Plenty of other countries have entertainment industries filled with people who are not white. Also stop pretending movies that America has very few movies/shows with non-white leads. BET is a whole channel dedicated to just that if you don't want to watch foreign TV.

[@lukang4544]

The good ol “Terrigen Mists”, and it’s inert for humans unless they’re latent inhumans, but it’s lethal for mutants, and it one point, the inhumans set off a bomb that sent a roving cloud of terrigen mist across the planet. It actually killed Cyclops

[@Profess84]

Her powers look better here than they did in the Avengers in game. The insecure fans will always complain before they actually watch something. I am going watch the show first, before I criticize it.

[@mathology5710]

Marvel hopping around covering all the big movie markets: China with Shang Chi and India/South Asia with Ms Marvel. Kiiinda feels like a money grab but hey, that's just me.

[@jimbrown5091]

I worked for a Fortune 500 manufacturing company. They were very well known in the US, but had years of record profits when they started actively expanding ( some might say "pandering") to Brazil, Russia, India and China. That's what global companies do.

[@ramboluib2752]

The world doesn't revolves around USA.

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

Inhumans are cocooned after being exposed to the Terrigen Mists which randomly gave you different powers.Then you can choose to stay among humans,or become a citizen of the kingdom of Attilan, under the rule of Blackbolt and Medusa and the royal (Inhuman) family.

[@KainGerc]

really, the fact that she's not an Inhuman in the MCU doesn't really matter that much since even in the comics it was never the focus with her. Yeah, she interacted sometimes with other Inhumans and she had some cute moments with Lockheed (the giant teleporting bulldog), but overall it never really had a major factor on her own comic and story. The fact that they changed her powers, so that instead of her genetics changing, she instead found some gadget that gave her Green Lantern powers might have more of an impact. but even that probably won't take away too much from the core of her character, which is basically a nerdy, Superhero obsessed, teenager suddenly getting powers and deciding to fight crime with them. (very much Spider-Man vibes only without the tragic dead relative part)

[@hallroney]

Today i talked to my therapist about how much i hate sheldon cooper as an autistic person because the characther replicates a lot of stigma but the visibilization was priceless, i could explain my condition easily using the characther for example. Visibility literally saves lives.

[@melvinrivera8432]

The terrigen mist is what they where referring to that gave the earthling inhumans superpowers