MSFS Cessna Citation CJ4 Full Flight TUTORIAL | Cold&Dark Start, FMS, ATC | Working Title & AAU1

NOTE: This tutorial still covers the Working Title Mod of the CJ4, but it also fully applies to the new AAU1 CJ4. Only some features have been stripped out, like the simBrief FP download.
Welcome to another complete and extensive maximum realism aircraft tutorial, this time covering the Working Title CJ4, a free addon modification for the default Cessna Citation CJ4 of MSFS, which takes this business jet to a whole new level.
We are flying the most current version 0.11.1 with many exciting features that all get explained in this video, like a full cold'n'dark startup, simBrief integration, METAR weather datalink, the integrated checklist system, all the PFD and MFD menus and how to navigate them, the autopilot and VNAV operation, an ILS landing, etc. Unfortunately I can't show the new Navigraph charts integration as I don't have an active subscription right now. I hope you will find the video useful and please enjoy the trip from Graz to Bologna :)
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Aircraft: Cessna Citation CJ4
Payload: 2 crew, 3 adults, 2 kids and some golf clubs ;)
Departure: Graz Airport, Austria (LOWG)
Arrival: Bologna Guglielmo Marconi Airport (LIPE)
Cruise FL: 410
Route: LOWG (RWY 17C) ABIR3G ABIRI DCT RIFEN M196 BADOP P125 TULIK M859 LUMAV LUMA4S LIPE (ILS RWY 30)
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Working Title Mods Downloads: github.com/Working-Title-MSFS...
WT CJ4 simBrief airframe profile: www.simbrief.com/system/dispa...
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PC Specs:
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB DDR4-3200 | Thermaltake SmartSE 730W | Samsung 970 EVO M2 500GB (Windows & XP11 Drive) | SanDisk Ultra3D SSD 500GB (MSFS Drive) | Windows 10 Home 64-bit
MSFS settings:
1440p, High-End preset modified | Terrain LOD: 200 | Shadow Maps: 2048 | Water Waves, Reflections, Glass Cockpit Refresh Rate: Medium | Depth of Field, Motion Blur: Off
#microsoftflightsimulator #msfs #fs2020

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

After the WorkingTitle CJ4 Mod got implemented into the base simulator via the "Aircraft and Avionics Update", many things have improved with the plane, but also some functions have been removed. This includes (most notably) the simBrief integration, the checklists and the passenger announcements. Also the PFD/MFD menu navigation has changed a little bit. Still, 98% of this tutorial flight are still valid :) Happy flying and thanks for watching!

[@jeffallen5871]

I just downloaded this tonight, and SB integration and pax announcements are all in.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@jeffallen5871 Yeah it seems that after SU13 some of those features were added back in, which is nice :) Still no charts access though...

[@ladislavdinga8299]

where can i download this mode

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

No need to download, by now it's included in MSFS @@ladislavdinga8299

[@chicagoskyhawk2052]

You are a very underrated KZbinr and streamer. Your videos taught me how to set up and fly the Zibo years ago. Keep doing what you're doing for the flight sim community!

[@Alan_Edwards]

I agree with you on that point for sure.

[@herbertmogg9386]

Eines der besten Videos die ich bis jetzt von der CJ4 gesehen hab. In knapp einer Stunde alles gezeigt, wo andere bekannte Tutorialer mehr als 10 Videos zeigen. Trotz Englisch ist der logische Aufbau und die Bildfolge einfach super gemacht. Auch ist hier nicht dieses nervöse rumgefuchtel mit der Maus/Cursor vorhanden. Es wird alles in Ruhe und sachlich erläutert und erklärt. Einfach weiter so, es hat richtig Spass gemacht dabei zu zusehen.

[@PrivateVoid1]

Tremendous tutorial. I've been holding off switching up from turboprops to jets as it seems quite daunting but this tutorial has given me the confidence and knowledge to try the CJ4. Many thanks.

[@fridjonvilhjalmsson2883]

I flew the CJ4 for a few months after graduating from the C152, C172 and the larger prop aircraft. The CJ4 was such a favorite for a while due to being very easy to maneuver as well as forgiving when the pilot wasn't quite with it. Now I have graduated again, this time to the large airliners which again is a big step and requires creating complex flight plans and programming the flight computer. This is all a great fun and definitely worth every cent. I look forward to passing time in the coming winter months, flying the world over.

[@Jacob-gq7id]

CJ4 is a lot easier than you think! Takes a couple hours to really learn everything but altogether a very easy jet.

[@jhogoboom]

Great tutorial. Been flying the CJ4 for a month or so and learned a couple of nice tricks. Thanks for posting this!!

[@BerndSchmitt-Martinique]

Wieder ein fundiertes und sehr informatives Video . Ich weiß, da steckt ne Menge Arbeit drin, deswegen meinen herzlichen Dank für deinen tollen Einsatz für die SimmerCommunity.

[@weepingeye]

Excellent tutorial. Thank you. Had been flying the Working Title CJ4 for a while but haven't been back on FS2020 for couple of months. This has got me excited about jumping back in!

[@maximilianth]

Sehr detailliertes und informatives Video. Hat mir sehr geholfen mich in den CJ einzuarbeiten. Vielen Dank für den Aufwand, den du in dieses Video gesteckt hast!

[@Alan_Edwards]

Very good tutorial. Straight and too the point. Have not flown the CJ4 yet but have been wanting too and found most of the other tutorials just too long winded while not providing the content needed to actually start, program and fly the dang plane. Nice work man !!!

[@BurnleyNuts]

This is such a comprehensive tutorial, I've been flying the CJ4 for a good few months now and got to grips with a good amount of stuff but you have certainly filled in a lot of gaps in my knowledge. Many thanks.

[@thorstensplett4811]

Thank you for this video. I'm very new to MSFS, having started only about a month ago. I learned last week how to fly the A32nx from your video, and typed it into click-by-click instructions. I did the same with this video for the CJ4. You have a way of clearly and simply stating each step, without assuming we're a pilot ourself. I may not understand everything a pilot knows, but after watching your videos at least I can fly the plane. Thank you for making these videos, and I'm looking forward to your next ones.

[@squidge73]

"Excellent" I learn more from your videos than any others, Outstanding attention to detail Thank You. Catch you on the next one.

[@AviationMaster]

Been considering flying some more on MSFS, this mod looks like a lot of fun for sure. Thanks for the awesome tutorial.

[@dicko2u279]

Brilliant tutorial I have just gone VR and wanted to fly commercial jets and CJ4 is a good starting point this information you gave us will go a big way to helping me do this. Great job and thanks.

[@ftd1949]

Excellent !! Thank you for the hard work in making this.

[@SebastianBrandes2300]

Thank you for an absolutely outstanding tutorial! Much appreciated! Greetings from Copenhagen.

[@user-kn6sz8ji1j]

I'm familiarizing myself to the 2020 MSFS after an extended absence from earlier MSFS simulations. This video was just what I needed. It was very informative and very appreciated. God Bless.

[@miguela.c.3302]

Thanks so much for the most comprehensive, simple and well explained CJ4 tutorial I have watched so far. Also, it is one with an easily understandable english accent 😉🙃

[@jaybird210]

Thank you for the excellent tutorial! Very clear and everything was straight to the point.

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

Nice landing! Thanks for the extensive video.

[@sheeen02]

just converting to the WT CJ4 and have found you video very helpful. Thank you.

[@bankabled]

Thank you for this excellent tutorial. I look forward to more as you have time.

[@michaelkuepper66]

Best tutorial ever! Easy to follow! Great job! 👍👍👍👍👍!

[@sciencetablet2634]

One of the best tuts ive seen

[@biroleau]

Great tutorial, one of the best I have ever seen- Excellent work and Many Thanks

[@dodgerlong790]

Excellent well done, and thank you, this is now my main Aircraft, having been a Airbus 320NX pilot, and a vatsim B737 800 zibo fan for last 8yrs..,

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks! Yeah after so much airliner flying, this is a nice little diversion for sure :) Fun aircraft.

[@seyley2901]

Brilliant, thanks for this video, extremely useful. I appreciate the time taken to present the information...

[@tomek2ni]

Real good tutorial right here. I got the thing landed by the first attempt. and I gotta admit I was a little bit drunk driving!

[@CJeffers]

Thanks for another excellent tutorial!

[@daywalker5458]

Great Video!!! I really like this very detailed and well explained presentation.

[@flightsimmer7410]

A very, very useful tutorial video 👍👍👍

[@pathm11]

Good stuff as usual. Excellent tutorial. Thank you

[@flywithusMSFS]

Great video! Thank you helped immensely!

[@brianwhite4726]

a great video i have learned so much and you explain everything in great detail.

[@FordyHunt]

Really enjoyed this guide, thanks 😊

[@georgschildknecht7261]

Vielen Dank für den Flug!

[@skinnyTheCat]

Incredibly well-done tutorial! Thank you so much sir :) Hope you do more of these :) Happy Hollidays! :)

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks, glad you like it :) Happy Holidays to you as well!

[@flip-da-loop]

Great job, many thanks, just finished my third flight and this aircraft has already become one of my favourites on FS2020.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Yes it's definitely one of the best :) Thanks for watching!

[@julienvelia7877]

Amazing content, thanks a lot!

[@boranepy]

thanks a lot. u've done a really well job

[@mikew130]

Great tutorial. Thank you

[@CrashEd1664]

Great video - many thanks!

[@richiev63]

Great video. You've earned another subscriber.

[@stevenswadel]

Very nice tutorial dude. Thanks.

[@AirlinersLive]

Great tutorial thank you

[@Chopperdriver]

Excellent tutorial

[@marinerhally]

"Not my best take off but whatever" Quality tutorial mate :D

[@s1ix]

Great video. Very helpful. Subscribed.

[@flightsimmer7410]

Nice and informative tutorial 👏👏👏

[@davidh7280]

Excellent tutorial! This sim is currently the go to for me. When CRJ arrives, it will be that one and the CJ4.....I'm not a Bus fan!

[@icecold9511]

To me the cj4 is the last plane to actually feel like I'm flying. A liner has no appeal.

[@johnarmstrong3782]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@andrewletaev2097]

THANKS for English Tutorial !

[@mrsaskriders]

Thx it is a great job.

[@amb7247]

Nice video. -115 fpm is my best landing yet. Not hard to fly but a lot of fun.

[@TheRealPlato]

thanks for upload!

[@Simulatorgaming2020]

Very nice! 👍👍

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

It seems that I had a little brainfart while explaining the battery amps and the GPU. Of course when the GPU is connected, the battery shouldn't be discharging any longer. Maybe the value on the systems page is static and not modelled yet. Cheers guys, thanks for watching :)

[@Joker1SH]

Prima Video, TOP

[@steveholmes7969]

Hi, love your tutorials. Could you please do a tutorial with the new avionics update with a rnav approach. Thanks for your great tutorials.

[@jtepsr]

my compliments to the way you provided this tutorial. i fly the longitude with the garmin 3000, this aircraft seems more complicated with regard to the avionics. from what i see in the world map, the longitude is faster and cruises higher than the cj4. i welcome your comments.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Hi, I'm glad you enjoyed the video :) As I only own the MSFS Standard Edition, I don't have access to the Longitude, so I can't comment further on that plane unfortunately...

[@andrevdw747]

Great tutorial! 👏🏻 In the fms i can’t add text in the scratchpad. It states “KEY NOT ACTIVE”. Any idea what that can be? Thanks.

[@oliverbogdan6764]

Great videos thanks! Quick note, STD is above FL180 :)

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks! Well the STD altimeter depends on the country (and sometimes the airport), but yes in North America and some other countries it's FL180. Cheers

[@grantwood8325]

Thank you for this! One question around atc - did u also load the imported fp from simbrief in the world map or when u enabled the connection to atc in the fms does it automatically provide atc services based on the imported fp into the fms ? Thanks!!

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

With the CJ4 you don't need to load the fp in the World Map. Just make sure the "FP SYNC" option in the FMS is enabled. Cheers

[@dabneyoffermein595]

is it possible to assign bindings to the "Menu Push" button and other buttons on the Lower Menu and on the Upper menu? I need to get a bunch of those buttons to push on my VIRPIL button boxes (CP1 & CP2 & CM2 Throttle). I am using Spad.Next and found some variables that say MSFS and they have the right descriptors on them but I don't seem to be able to assign them properly in Spad. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong in Spad or this is not possible in the Working Title CRJ. Thanks in advance

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Sorry I can't help you there. These buttons also can't be mapped via the default assignments so I highly doubt it's possible.

[@pito2531]

how do you zoom your waypoint my are to far out ?

[@TheCratesMotel]

Great video thank you. I am a total newbie to MSFS2020 and simbrief (not flight sims) and plan to follow your video exactly. However I have one issue. Can I ask, do you load the simbrief pln on the World Map page in FS2020? And if so how do you start cold and dark. When I load the simbrief pln and then change to cold and dark in the World Map options, I do not seem to be able to get the option of ATC clearance. I guess my question is, what process did you go through to be cold and dark in a parking space on this video and be able to get ATC clearance. Thank you in advance.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thank you, I'm glad you like the tuto! I haven't used MSFS for a long time so I don't remember how I set up the cold'n'dark state. Might be an option in the FMS options of the WT CJ4, or somewhere in MSFS. Regarding the simBrief flight plan and the ATC, no, I didn't load the fp in the World Map of MSFS. I'm just using the Flight Plan Recall (SB) as shown in the tuto, and make sure that the flight plan sync option is enabled. ATC should be working then. Cheers

[@TheCratesMotel]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Awesome thank you. I missed the Sync ATC part the first time around. I’ve found it now. Thank you.

[@johnnyfin8603]

Just downloaded this mod. It seems very nice but I can't press any buttons on FMC. Any ideas?

[@leeholden13]

I am a newbee wanting to learn the CJ4 as my first jet engine plane. I have been through many...many, CJ4 tutorials and this is far and away the best. The only problem I have is that I can't really use it while flying. Is there a comparable written procedure I could refer to on a second monitor? Thanks...and again...Great tutorial.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks, I'm glad the video helps you out. Unfortunately I'm not aware of any written procedures neither. There are quite some hints and tips in the official WT CJ4 user guide though, and the integrated checklists are very useful as well. docs.google.com/document/d/1qzxPMTSQRkvau8QOi7xUqNvjx9rbww_qHlso5AT5OnI/

[@warlord76i]

A little correction: in the check list says that you should start engines(RUN) after NG>20%...or it doesn't matter? You just pressed instantly.

[@unclealig]

when i fly on VATSIM, i would set live weather within the sim. do i need to change everything in the MOD SETTING (page 2) to source VATSIM? thanks

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

I think that setting is for the weather source only, so the WX request function will use the weather published on the VATSIM servers then.

[@Dennis-xs9cn]

strangely simbrief airac 2103 shows only graz runway 16c not 17C so different sid ABIR4G. Navigraph also only shows 16C

[@internetpig5354]

how do I install this? I know it's normally easy but I can't figure out which folder to dragg to my msfs2020 community folder. Thanks for any help you can provide!

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

You just download the latest aircraft version .zip file and unpack it in your Community folder, so the folder structure is "Community/workingtitle-aircraft-cj4/" and then all the Effects, html_ui and whatnot folders. Cheers

[@g_pazzini]

how do we arm speedbrake for landing? or should we do it manually?

[@hanneskomoll5785]

Has to be done manually whilst rollout in the CJ4 ):

[@nutsinpuss9563]

I tried following these steps on the MSFS 2020 Xbox version and the sim just doesn't respond like in this video. Many steps don't work the same like the FMS. For example, going to the index page does nothing. It stays on the POS Init page. I have this on Steam as well but haven't built my PC. Any idea's?

[@r-gart]

This is the Working Title CJ4 mod, not sure if such thing exists for xbox. The original cj4 is very limited, specially the FMS.

[@Jasepo]

Do real onboard computers are connected to internet to get weather reports and select runways at destination and all that? How do they do it?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Yeah nowadays modern airliners are able to receive weather reports, I know it from the Airbus mainly. Setting up a runway for the destination before takeoff is just a "guess" though using the current wind information, and ATC will give you the runway in use when close to the airport.

[@Jasepo]

is there any tutorial for Flight plans inserted from MSFS? Even with the auto plan set up, I had a discontinuity, didn´t know what to do

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Discontinuitues are normal, even when importing the best flight plan. You can easily delete them on the LEGS page though, as I'm showing here: 8:04

[@Paul-kt5of]

You are actually German I to so I can hear that your from Germany ;) but this video is really hielfreich ;) help full

[@chrispurkiss1491]

I have downloaded the CJ4 from workingtitle and have an entry workingtitle-aircraft-cj4 in my Community folder but I don't see any entry for a working title aircraft only the Textron Aviation model. I have the standard version of fs2020. Have I done something wrong?? Excellent tutorial which i hope to absorb properly?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Actually the working title mod doesn't create a new aircraft entry in the MSFS menus. Just select the CJ4 as usual and when you have all the new features available, then the WT mod is properly installed :)

[@knightshadow1894]

Good evening, enjoyed your video very much. Would love to know what type of yoke and throttle quad you use during this flight. Thanks you much.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks, good to hear that you enjoyed :) I'm using only one single joystick, a Thrustmaster T16000M. Cheers

[@knightshadow1894]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Thanks for the reply. Cheers!

[@ironknobair]

How do you get Simbrief to show in the SmS unit. I do not have this in mine.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

After the MSFS "Aircraft and Avionics Update" the CJ4 doesn't include the simBrief import anymore.

[@ladislavdinga8299]

I dont have to check checklist...There is a cross,why?

[@juniorrocha6112]

my ATC never works correctly, out of the blue, it order to cancel the flight plan, fs2020 bug

[@Sheepdog34]

What’s the advantage of using the SimBrief flight plan over FS2020’s flight plan they give you before you load up?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

When using the FS2020 planner, the flightplan will be present in the FMS directly which is not very realistic. Also it can be quite tedious to use and many prefer simBrief because of its simplicity, plus you get all the weights, fitting SIDs/STARs etc for the flight. Cheers

[@Sheepdog34]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe thank you!

[@T3ki1a_]

I wonder how much of this is still relevant into the new vanilla CJ4 since it has been updated with WT system

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Most of the flying part, autopilot and FMS should still be valid. The screens look a bit different now and there's no simBrief FP download anymore.

[@Slovakianstallion]

So I've been struggling with this for over an hour and still can't figure it out. Changing the altimeter units. I can change them on the PFD via the PFD menu, but they stay imperial on the FMS, so I can't enter QNH in hPa for takeoff PERF. The settings where this should be (IDX -> Settings) do not include altimeter units, I only have ground power, cabin lights, and simbrief ID. Does anyone know how to change the units on the FMS?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Might well be that you need to change the weight units in the "General Options" menu of MSFS under "Misc". And then pretty likely you need to restart the flight. It's the same with the AAU2 B747 for example. Cheers

[@Slovakianstallion]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe OK, thanks. A bit of a bummer but I guess that'll work.

[@UncarteD]

I don't have that "mod set" option on my fms, do you know how I can get it? Thanks!

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

After the WorkingTitle CJ4 Mod got implemented into the base simulator via the "Aircraft and Avionics Update", many things have improved with the plane, but also some functions have been removed. That includes the "MOD SET" options. Cheers

[@UncarteD]

@SimulationChannelDeluxe Got it, ty. Do you know how people are doing it now? Do you have a video explaining it?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@UncarteD Doing what exactly? The simBrief import isn't possible anymore after the aircraft update, as is all the other stuff that was available on the MOD SET page.

[@pablomartinez1504]

The IDX button on mine doesn’t work, is there something I need to do?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Sorry I didn't fly the plane for months, can't help you there :(

[@grillodon]

It says to me "wrong pilot id" when I try to connect to Simbrief. The ID is right. The flight is saved in Simbrief. EDIT: solved. I have to generate the OFP anyway.

[@erikcastle9157]

ohh wow thanks a bunch!

[@randysteven88]

Pfff, this little thing is powerful! Just shoots of the runway.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Absolutely! Way overpowered ;)

[@sirgen001]

Why is there always a loud mechanical buzzing coming out of my speakers when I am using the sim? Has anyone ever experienced this problem? How do I get reed of it please

[@Hoodman_UK]

Not sure but try disable 'windows spatial sound' in sound settings of msfs. Just a guess

[@icecold9511]

It is possible it is a speaker issue, damaged and makes noise at the sound frequencies of the sim.

[@jimsaunders8395]

fantastc tutor. wish you would say what airport

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Thanks. What exactly do you mean by "what airport"?

[@zachansen8293]

just in case a bunch of other people are confused like I was, a bunch of stuff moved when this patch was discontinued and other stuff was flat out removed. so in the current MSFS a bunch of stuff no longer works that worked 2 years ago. Pretty frustrating.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Yeah true, after the WT mod got added to the official Asobo content, some functions got scrapped unfortunately.

[@Paul9601EX]

I still have the original Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback stick.

[@Jojos25]

Where did you set the minimums???

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Here you go: 50:03

[@nfapeng187]

I aint worth a shit at operating this plane man. I am watching tons of videos on it. I was rabbit hoppin into the landing pad and all thee above. Not sure how i beat the checkride on OnAir but i literally cant get the flight plans going right. Where its basically AP. Than descends and etc. I been using just the Daher TBM 930. Its easy for me to control and fly. I really wanna jump up to the CJ4 tho!

[@Joker1SH]

Hallo, das Video ist prima - klasse für Einsteiger. Wie bekomme ich so ein vollständiges ATC Menü aufgeklappt. Bei mir gibt es da an der Stelle nur einen Eintrag und Konversationshistorie. Vielen Dank für eine Antwort im Voraus.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Dankeschön Jörg. Bzgl. des ATC-Menüs wusste ich garnicht, dass es verschiedene Darstellungen gibt ;) Ich habe den Befehl für "Show ATC Menu" auf meinen Joystick gelegt und dann erscheint immer dieses Menü. Grüße

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Natürlich muss für eine größere Auswahl bei den Radiocalls die richtige Frequenz im COM-Radio eingewählt sein und am besten liegt auch ein Flugplan vor.

[@Joker1SH]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Ah ok, oha ist schon nicht leicht als Einsteiger. Lustig ist schon, dass meine Aktionen, die ich parallel bisher zu mindestens 10 Komplettvideos durchgeführt habe, nach kurzer Zeit vom Original abweichen. Das fängt schon mit dem Flugplan im MSFS an, da geh ich Schritt für Schritt vor und die Wegpunkte passen niemals zusammen. Spätestens im FMC ist dann alles anders. Aber es ist spannend und es soll auch fordern. Danke für die Tipps

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@Joker1SH Ja die Sache mit den Flugplänen ist als Einsteiger nicht leicht. Am besten simbrief verwenden und den FP in den Flieger laden wie ich es im Video zeige. Das sollte erstmal funktionieren.

[@j_london9791]

Can I use Little navmap to install as the flight plan?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Little Navmap is a great tool to prepare a flightplan as well as SIDs and STARs, but it's not possible to load a Little Navmap created flightplan directly into the CJ4 via the FMS if that's what you're asking. Cheers

[@j_london9791]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe thx for replying.So Simbrief is the only way to load a flight plan in the CJ4?

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@j_london9791 Yeah either simBrief, or by using the integrated MSFS flight planner. The MSFS created flightplan will be loaded in the aircraft instantly without the need to load anything.

[@j_london9791]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe thx

[@icecold9511]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe You can load a little navmap plan in the menue as you load up the flight, when you would use fs2020 to create a flight plan.

[@MartianLivesMatter]

just an fyi, simbrief includes the pilots as passengers.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Alright, thanks for letting me know.

[@marcw.5492]

Is there some alternative to discuss MSFS and things that dont work besides GITHUB and DISCHORD ? these sites are monsterously annoying and I can no longer log in to them - Oh BOY ! No where to get help or discuss except You Tube ... thankfully you are a source for my escape to better SIMMING. I have been adding hardware, and just recently have realized a benefit after many years of Flying. I wish there was a discussion area that could answer some basic questions and take suggestions. Do you know of any? So many quirky ideas being established in MSFS that I have never encountered anywhere. And I am OLD ! Who are those people designing this software ? I find it all fun to a point then it becomes ... tedious at best.

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Sorry I'm not much into online MSFS discussions ;) But maybe I can recommend the official Flight Simulator forums. There is really much activity and maybe it will help you out.

[@marcw.5492]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Ok appreciate the reply ... I have tried many times to get there My Microsoft account wont allow it ? I get errors no matter what I try. At least MS is consistent.

[@hansholland5300]

ist ja ein Haufen zu lernen!

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

Aber es lohnt sich auf jeden Fall :)

[@hansholland5300]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Das glaube ich,darum werde ich auf die CJ4 um wechseln vom A320 ngx .Ist eine checkliste für die CJ4 verfügbar? Nochmals vielen Dank für ihre antwort. cheers ,Hans

[@SimulationChannelDeluxe]

@@hansholland5300 Naja es gibt die sehr unvollständige Checklist von MSFS und dann noch die ausführliche Version, die man im MFD des Fliegers aufrufen kann. Allerdings weiß ich nicht, ob es auch eine Checklist zum runterladen und ausdrucken gibt... Auf jeden Fall viel Spaß mit der CJ4 :) Grüße

[@hansholland5300]

@@SimulationChannelDeluxe Vielen dank für die info und grüße aus Austin Texas