Citation CJ4 - Autopilot - VNAV - Angle of Attack - FS2020

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Want to know more about VNAV? Try this full length video all about VNAV: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6aWZ5eca5Zna8k

[@dkcoats]

Finally! Videos on this airplane that say “here’s how to do this”, not just “watch me do this.” Bravo and thanks.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You are welcome. I try to make my videos easy to understand and doable so learning can take place the first time the video is watched.

[@MrScott_e]

I agree with David Coats. Your delivery is straight forward and your use of the Red boxes identifying key points it brilliant. I know the WT team is producing updates quickly so attempting to produce an accurate series may be impossible until such time the CJ4 is fully operational. However, I do encourage you to continue your efforts and put as much setup info as possible in your videos so we can setup and fly with you. Great job! Keep it up!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I will keep doing videos with the CJ4 mod even though they are updating the Mod. This is the closest thing to duplicate real life avionics and flying in FS2020 so far. There are some things I have wanted to do but the FMS in the mod will not do them correctly so I don't do those things. So far, I've only done what others can duplicate every time on their own. I make these videos because I enjoy the mod, a lot! The team making it has done a wonderful job so far and I am here to help them any way I can. They make videos for their mod and mine are in no way meant to compete with their videos but to show appreciation and help get the word out about the wonderful work they have done. When I first used the mod and saw how well the FMS worked, I was more excited than a kid on Christmas morning. They did what Asobo failed to do upon the release of FS2020 by giving us a working FMS among other fixes with the CJ4.

[@paulblart8243]

Thank you so much for positing this. I'm at flight safety doing training and this really helped clarify some confusion.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Hopefully you are enjoying the endless coffee and snacks throughout the day at FSI. Are you doing a CJ4 initial?

[@wolfpackersteve]

Great video, as a new pilot (SIC) to the CJ4 I find it very helpful.

[@octanejimmy]

You have set the bar for teaching controls and mechanics to this aircraft. Where have you been my entire Flight Sim career stretching back well before KZbin :P Thanks for this great content.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you for the great comment! I'm glad you're enjoying my content. I've been playing MSFS since FS5 but not on my own PC until FS98. I started a KZbin channel in August 2020. I wish I started sooner but starting with FS2020 was a great time to start. My goal is to bring real world experience to flight simulator with tutorials but do it in a way that is easy to understand.

[@octanejimmy]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Can totally tell you let someone have your life in their hands as a flight Instructor. Simple to understand and follow information. Everything is relevant and how/why its done. Great stuff.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@octanejimmy That's what matters. Making sure the listener understands and not the speaker confusing the listeners with fancy terms they don't understand. I may be guilty of that sometimes but my intent is for a person to watch and understand the concept the first time around.

[@octanejimmy]

@@thecorporatepilotdad you nailed it. I was a military Instructor for a few years and it is sometimes really hard to not add in "smart fluff" if you will.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@octanejimmy Agreed. And I enjoy doing these tutorials. The nice comments push me to do more. I have plenty more videos coming. My list is 15 ideas long right now.

[@kokoskolan2099]

Thanks a lot! Been looking for exactly this video, had almost no clue what most of the buttons did 😅

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Good thing you found it! I have a video on VNAV that is more in depth than this one (even though this video covers the AP mostly).

[@kokoskolan2099]

Thanks 👍

[@adamrclemons]

The "go around" button @2:01 -- this is unselectable in the current build. Has this been switched to something else or do I not have everything enabled properly?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I will have to check. There is a go-around button on the left side of the throttle. I'm not sure if they programmed it where it belongs or not.

[@CARNEY9370]

Thank you for your videos of the CJ4, you are helping me a lot in the learning of this plane. I look forward to your next videos !! Thank you

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You are welcome. I have another video coming out in a day or so but not with the CJ4 but it can be used with the CJ4! I will have more videos on the CJ4 in the future so stay tuned.

[@stu3tristan9x9]

Excellent video. Would really like you to do a flight and put out some notes and sequencing of actions. I know other channels do this via patron. Just really great intellectual content on this channel rather than a 'tube pilot ' who are unable to explain why they doing a particular action. Thanks again

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

So you would like to see a flight from point A to point B from start to finish as I would in real life including checking weather, working the FMS, cruise, descent, getting ATIS, alternate airport considerations, etc?

[@stu3tristan9x9]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Absolutely perhaps with a live stream on the CJ4 so people could post questions? I can send a link to the MSFS forum if you do but its a lot of work for you, your doing a great job already

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@stu3tristan9x9 I have been wanting to do a livestream on KZbin for a while. Possibly sometime this weekend. If I get a time I'll put it out in UTC and post a message on KZbin. I would rather have a smaller crowd so my subscribers can ask questions and whoever sees it can pop in.

[@peyton5256]

Great Video! IND Represent!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you. There are lots more videos on the CJ4 here in this playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYHQkmqQorl7jtE (These are the CJ4 Working Title Mod version).

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

Flight Guidance Panel vs Auto pilot panel! 😀 I love it, I know you where thinking of me when you said that 🤣🛫 I am going to call it the Auto Pilot Control Panel just for you!😀

[@simcaptainrik]

Very informative. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You are welcome!

[@stovic1442]

I've started really getting on with this plane thanks to WT and you. VNAV works for altitudes which are part of the flight plan but it seems to ignore an alt if I put it into a waypoint during flight. I'm guessing perhaps I need to also figure out how to get the degrees angle in.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Glad you're enjoying the CJ4. It's the best airplane on FS2020 in terms of functionality (with the WT mod). It should do the descent angle for you. On the real FMS in the airplane we can change it and it will move the TOD. To change the angle just type the number in the scratchpad (i.e. 4.5) and put it on the right side of the FMS on the fix. So if it goes on the 2nd from the top position you'd press the 2nd button down on the right side buttons. I have the newest update but I am not sure if it allows changes in the descent angle yet. Haven't tried in a while.

[@stovic1442]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks. I tried again and angles seemed to pop in themselves when I set alts for waypoints which didn't have them. It's all working beautifully.. I'm just not sure I know how yet :-) When hitting VNAV I wanted to see vpath but was getting things like vptch and valt. It seemed to sort itself out though at some point. I'm new to this I'll just give myself time for it to sink in. I'm not sure how VS and FLC works alongside VNAV or if it does at all. Time to read the manuals!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@stovic1442 have you seen my VNAV video from about a month ago?

[@stovic1442]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Yes but I'll watch again. Lots of great info thanks again.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@stovic1442 VNAV won't really do anything unless it has a path to capture such as a path leading to an altitude at a waypoint. VNAV will fly in VS mode (FMA will show VVS) and to see what it will do next, look at the flight mode annunciator on the PFD. If PATH is in white under VVS, it will fly VVS until the PATH capture. VPTCH is just a climb mode and the V means VNAV is engaged. VPTCH will work in a climb or descent until an altitude limit is coming up and it will level off in a climb so the restriction is met.

[@paulphibbs5362]

G’day. I’m enjoying your videos on the CJ4 - thanks. I’m wondering if you could do one on RNav approaches. I’m having trouble getting the plane to follow an approach to the airport. No problem with ILS, switching Nav mode but I’m guessing you remain with GPS for an RNAV approach.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You are correct. Load the approach GPS or RNV to the runway and leave it in FMS/GPS mode.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Here is an RNAV Approach I did a few months ago. Same concept. This will help until I can get one done in the CJ4. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWi2Z6CijKhlnK8

[@paulphibbs5362]

Thanks for your feedback.

[@BadOldBuzzard]

Yet another great video! looking forward to your upcoming video with more in depth info on VNAV. I've made 2 flights in the current working mod version and never got VNAV to kick in. Both were ILS approaches. I've watched your video and one by K20017. But, still not sure which altitude restriction to put in as my altitude before pressing the VNAV button. For ILS approach is it the IAF or FAF? If you have an arrival with alt restrictions, what do you use and when do you invoke VNAV. Then, of course, there is the issue of using VNAV for an RNAV approach! I want to learn them all!!! Many thanks!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

If doing an ILS you'll have to be in FMS mode and set the altitude at the FAF in the altitude selector then press VNAV. Right before you reach the FAF you'll have to switch to LOC and press APPR as soon as you switch sources. If on an arrival (STAR) set the bottom altitude at the end of the arrival and press VNAV. as soon as you see TOD on the MFD that's where the airplane should descend. From there it should take you to the bottom altitude set in the altitude selector. I'll try to get my STAR tutorial out later this week. I think it's the ARCH arrival into STL.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I did one on using VNAV to an ILS if you didn't see that one yet. It explains a little more on how to do it. This video was quick in a few places just to show the flight director modes.

[@slideslipping]

Very comprehensive. Thanks a lot. I think I'm right in saying that when you enter Approach mode, any currently active modes, e.g. VS, ALT, etc. are cancelled. Then, if you cancel Approach mode before landing, which modes will be active? Does that vary with different planes?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You can have approach mode armed and be in VS or any other vertical mode and it will stay until an altitude in the preselector or a glide slope is reached/intercepted. If you cancel the approach mode, I think it will go to pitch and maintain what you're currently at but honestly, I have never had to cancel the approach mode or needed to. If doing an ILS it will stay in approach mode unless I go missed then go-around mode will be selected and a go around will be initiated. It is the same from airplane to airplane that I have flown in real life but right now everything I fly is a Pro Line 4 or 21 so they are very similar.

[@victorpeter5473]

Well done, very interesting and good demonstration. A pleasure to learn with such videos ! Many thanks

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you. I have another CJ4 related video coming soon.

[@hakonher5437]

Brilliant video Sir, learned a lot from this one 😊👍🏼

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you! I actually used real manuals for this video. Nothing from the internet here!

[@jetsimmer]

Awesome video. What about the Citation Longitude? Does the Autopilot and VNAV work in it as well as in the CJ4? Also do all the systems work in the TBM 930 & DA62? I am just trying to see which aircraft you recommend for best system functionality.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

They are all a little hit and miss right now. I like the CJ4 with the working title mod for functionality of the FMS. None of them are really deep in the functionality and manipulation of systems. For that level it will be through payware aircraft that are study level.

[@pdxwarrior]

Does the CJ4 have any form of auto throttle/cruise control? Some other planes I can hold the speed and then change the dial to more have more control over throttle/speed. Haven’t found anything other than FLC but that only works for altitude adjustments.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

The CJ4 does not have auto throttles. To get auto throttles in a business jet you have to fly the Longitude.

[@kgrau09]

AOA set at On all time thru PFD MENU -Configuration

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Yes that can be done and it is the same way with the ProLine 21 in the real world.

[@Belfran]

So much knowledge packed clear and simple, thanks! Suscribed

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you for subscribing and watching.

[@calvrsimer]

Great tutorial video, I just subscribed, thumbed up, and pressed the notification bell : ) Currently learning the CJ4, what a great plane, and a great thanks to the working title mod. It would be great to see a tutorial about a missed approach which requires going to an intersection with a hold. Very curious to see all the different stages of managing the airplane for it. Hope you can do it, thanks for your content, keep it coming.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you for subscribing. I've actually been thinking about doing a video on missed approaches but the lack of missed approaches in FS2020 has held me back. However, they can still be done manually. And thanks again for pressing all those buttons and bells!

[@calvrsimer]

I’ll be patiently waiting then, thanks again for your work@@thecorporatepilotdad

[@timpaterson6278]

What are the orange balls beside the indexer on the window divider?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I don't know their exact name but those are used as a reference for adjusting your seat.

[@pminhas]

Awesome. Great info. Thanks

[@2007johnrbanks]

Always a pleasure to learn from your videos. Thank you. I do have a question. I'm not sure what "working title mod" is. Is it something you need to download? Is it worthwhile? How would you install it. Thanks again.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I am glad you learn from my videos. That is my goal - to make aviation easy and take some of the mystery out of it for the Flight Sim community. You do need to download the mod and it is worth it. It is free. Download the file, unzip it, and place it in the community folder. Make sure it shows up in "Content Manager" in the main FS2020 menu. Here is the link: github.com/Working-Title-MSFS-Mods/fspackages/releases

[@squid11160]

Dropping a comment to express thanks and appease the algorhytm god

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I will reply to say you're welcome and also attempt to appease the algorithm gods. Who knows if it actually does anything.

[@vetteboki]

Gooood video. But man,I need help finding and installing this mod?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Workingtitle.aero Download the file and put it in your community folder.

[@CactusBravo42]

If you switch on VNVAV during cruise, will the plane begin to descend only when you arrive at TOD? Or will it descend immediately to the selected ALT?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

At TOD IF the altitude selector is set to a lower altitude.

[@jeffhiew5795]

After installing the Working Title Mod for CJ4, in the aircraft list, how can we tell it is the new mod?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

After AAU1, the mod is no longer needed and should be deleted from the community folder. Just use the default CJ4 which has the newest update built in.

[@jeffhiew5795]

@@thecorporatepilotdad thank you

[@americanpatriot5836]

Great video!!!

[@2007johnrbanks]

Thank you very much!!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You're very welcome!

[@PowerAirSimulations]

I didn't even know that the TOGA button existed in this aircraft so have I been taking off incorrectly? The way i learned was to have FLC selected with 240Knots And have Vnav selected. On the runway i would bring the throttles all the way to takeoff and skyrocket climb at 240 knots.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

VNAV won't do anything unless you have altitudes in the FMS from a departure, arrival, or approach. I'm not positive but I do not believe that's the actual position of the TOGA button. In every Citation I've flown it's on the side of the left and or right throttle lever. Where they have it is more inline with where the fire switchlight is to shut off fuel to the engine. IRL I use pitch and I put in the runway heading on takeoff. That way the flight director will be wings level when I'm on the correct runway and the flight director would be in a turn if lined up on the wrong runway.

[@PowerAirSimulations]

@@thecorporatepilotdad So IRL when you take off you use VS? If so what is the normal VS climb?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@PowerAirSimulations I use pitch and move the command bars up to 8-9 degrees and heading. Once in the air I'll climb with VS once the AP is turned on.

[@PowerAirSimulations]

@@thecorporatepilotdad What do you set as your normal climb rate once you turn on AP? The performance chart says that the Maximum is 3,854

[@dga8903]

We had to put the TOGA button there for now, as the button on the throttle lever is not modelled yet. Also be aware there seems to be a bug right now, where the plane will not follow LNAV after coming out of TO mode. Should be fixed soon

[@pminhas]

Can you do a tutorial on Vatsim

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

There are several tutorials on VatSim on KZbin (other channels) I’m more of a PilotEdge user. There are several videos on my channel on ATC communications if you’re looking for communications practice. One uses Pilot Edge in the CJ4 and two other videos cover IFR clearances and approach clearances.

[@flyingpig7203]

Thanks.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Welcome