MSFS VR | 1080TI VS RTX 3090: IS IT WORTH IT? QUEST 2

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Is it REALLY worth upgrading? Join me live in chat for a RAW FPS comparison test as we fly around New York and London using the SAME settings in the Quest 2!

[@ChristopherMangels]

I'd say let's wait for the DX12 update in summer. Then we'll see what needs an upgrade.

[@larifle]

ok , thanks ! so i m waiting for RTX 4xxx series

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hey all!! The Premier will now be SOONER! See you there

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

PLEASE NOTE! I am using the FULL native resolution of the Quest 2 at 90HZ which can KILL your performance. However this is meant to be a stress test and has to be done 😁 Thanks everyone for your comments

[@Incommensurabilities]

So the headset runs at 90Hz, and MSFS delivers as may frames as it can, using re-projection for the rest, right? Are you saying the extra reprojection frames (compared to 72 or 80Hz) hurts the MSFS frames? I'm running similar settings but on a GTX 1080 (so pretty choppy) at 90Hz and wondering if I drop to 80 that it would help. I find 72 gets flickery and is distracting. Thanks for this great video btw :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I'd definitely recommend 80hz and lowering the resolution down to about 1.3. You can lock your reprojection down to 18fps which will help, or turn it off completely using the tray tool which I describe in my Quest 2 setup video. Best of luck!

[@Incommensurabilities]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks man, I'll try that, though I just love the crispiness of the Quest 2 at full resolution and will likely cave in and get a GPU upgrade before long 😁

[@COCACOLAwithpizza]

Great test.I got a 1080ti and I can't help wonder what would be the difference between that and a 3090 card with my quest2

[@Redridge07]

Just got the quest 2, with a 1080ti and I have this screen studder even when the plane is cold and dark. What do I need to do?

[@kevinbrook7033]

Great video Steve, I'm glad the FPS was worth our upgrade expenses! Addressing a couple of points. Yes, all RTX 2000 and 3000 series cards have a dedicated hardware video encoder that handles the quest video encoding saving your CPU the job, making the new NVidia cards great for Quest 2 use. Regarding the Quest 2 being harder to run than the G2 that may be due to you running the Quest at a higher resolution. I believe you are running the Quest to at its 1.7 render resolution that's 5408 x 2736 resolution. If you're running the Reverb G2 at its panel resolution that would be 4324 x 2160 so quite a bit lower. I'm not sure what the Reverb G2's render resolution would be corrected for barrel distortion but I imagine its 7000 or thereabouts., Good luck running it at 35 FPS at that resolution! I think that's the difference you're experiencing, nothing to do with the USB-C connection or extra video encoding required as your 3090 hardware encoder handles that separately. Another KZbinr I watch, sim racer Karl Gosling ran a comparison with his Quest 2 and G2 and said there was no performance difference between the two.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Kevin for clearing that one up! It's been worth every penny, typically I get the best performance when not recording!

[@randomtechreviews]

Can confirm that G2 / Q2 on at least RTX 3080 with a 5900X run very similar. Tested them both last month. No performance hit due to Link-encoding. Oculus was even smoother with less stutters at same FPS.

[@seanapp2351]

What oculus tray/ debug settings , and refresh rate and resolution , cheers !

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

90hz, 1.7 with Oculus, ASW off, bit rate 500

[@tigerfeet3995]

Also 10/10 for tactics. Get your partner a little bit interested in VR with a Quest 2,.....then BAM! Hit them with the PC upgrade plan! It worked for me too :P

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Haha I'm very lucky really, she knows what I'm like 😂

[@D001lz]

@@VRFlightSimGuy and you know she reads the comments.. smooth!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

😂😂

[@speedofsilence]

An also very interesting test would also be: 8600k with 3090 vs 10900k with 3090. Is this doable?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

My 3090 won't even fit in my old machine unfortunately 😂

[@speedofsilence]

@@VRFlightSimGuy ok, understandable lol. But would be cool to see, I mean both run @5ghz and FS is still mostly single core. I assume the difference wouldnt be to big?! I have no idea XD

[@Incommensurabilities]

@@speedofsilence Someone commented above that their CPU upgrade gave more frame time consistency rather than actual FPS boost, so it's still an improvement

[@speedofsilence]

@@Incommensurabilities yes I've seen it, thanks. If money is not an issue sure, a newer cpu is always nice :) In terms of fps I guess the difference between both cpu's would be < 5fps. So I'd rather upgrade the gpu first. Cheers

[@Incommensurabilities]

@@speedofsilence yeah same here, CPUs generally outlast GPUs by a long shot. Plus with the dx12 version it should use CPU power better

[@gusramage]

With the Reverb G2, Is it easy to see all the numbers on the G1000 unit? I am using a Oculus Rift S and I have to lean in or zoom in to see the numbers for the autopilot waypoints.

[@scr33tch]

Yes if you have render scaling set to 100 then it's nice and clear and I can personally read all the writing including the buttons

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes absolutely as the above poster suggests (thanks) 😁

[@Shadow__133]

@@scr33tch Except you wont, it will probably be around 70-80% until it's optimized. So no, it isn't easy to read and it aint pretty. I use a 3080 and amd 3700x with g2 and have more common sense and perhaps less enthusiasm.

[@scr33tch]

@@Shadow__133 I have 3090 and 10900 all o/c and can have everything maxed out in settings with 30 FPS.

[@Shadow__133]

@@scr33tch Good for you. With a 3080 I get 15-20 and lots of stutters with medium.

[@paulr4717]

Thank you for testing the New York area - it is an ultimate test. Much appreciated!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

My Pleasure Paul cheers 😊

[@iivaris]

All youtubers are comparing GPU but in reality it's the CPU that makes the biggest difference in VR. This was the first one I found where the CPU's where also compared. Thank you!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Livari yes this test is very much about the CPU and GPU together. Very important. Thanks for your feedback.

[@qiyuxuan9437]

CPU is not a big problem for most people, since CPU are also much cheaper, a mainstream 3600 or 10400 can handle VR just fine. My 5700xt is heavily bottlenecking my 3700x in VR DCS, even tho DCS has very bad muti core optimization.

[@iivaris]

@@qiyuxuan9437 At the moment it is. Just upgraded from 2700x to 5800x and a lot better. Second thing is the HMD. Not talking about VR in general, Just MFSF. It will most likely change in time when they do some optimization.

[@qiyuxuan9437]

@@iivaris 2700x probably suffer a lot in fs2020 lol. I just got my first vr headset reverb g1, I mainly play DCS, which runs ok on my system, but after watching this video, I probably wont even going to try fs2020 in VR until the DX12 update, my 5700xt already maxed out at 1080p in fs2020😂

[@forferdeilig]

I'm running an old sandy Bridge xeon e5 2670 v1 and a 980ti and it's definitely cpu limited for me, I can go up to med/high on most with clouds on ultra and 140% render scaling on rift S without becoming gpu limited, cpu limited to about 14fps, the setting that made the biggest difference was terrain detail slider which I have on about 40%

[@albertramstein8408]

I have a 8700K, 1080Ti, and also a Quest2. No doubt it will be a big FPS/Quality improvement, but is it worth the money?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That IS the question 🤔

[@speedofsilence]

Hm I'm wondering myself. The 8700k is still a beast, maybe a 3090 will be “sufficient“ as a decent upgrade?

[@highaltitude787]

@@speedofsilence that’s what I’m aiming for, keep the i7 8700k but upgrade to 3090. And I think my new quest 2 lenses are of defected low quality since these guys are seeing the scenery with amazement and in my case my eyes are straining and giving me headaches when looking at the blurred scenery even at highest or lowest settings.

[@speedofsilence]

@@highaltitude787 hm, sounds it's either you being sensitive to low fps or the quest is faulty. I have a modded G2 and no complaints other than the relatively low fps with my system.

[@highaltitude787]

@@speedofsilence I do experience low FPS at times but even when it’s smooth, the scenery is not as clear and I have to focus well to see the surrounding objects due to the blur at a near distant. My research so far is leading towards faulty headset lenses

[@DigitalDaysh]

Can you make a small section of the video with no overlays? I can do this weard thing where I go boz eyed and can make a 3d image in the middle 😂😂 hard to explain but would be great to see what MSFS looks like in 3d 👌

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yeah sure!

[@OurSchadenfreude]

Lol did exactly the same thing. In my head i was "no one would prolly do this" lmao

[@jdominguez2282]

zombie and manson in the same show? damn that must have been impressive! Steve, i was able to successfully get my msfs vr setup and running absolutely phenomenal with your guides thank you, i also discovered that msfs performance scales quite well with undervolting the gpu. My 3090 undervolted to 900mv @ 1945mhz was good for a 7-10fps increase in performance across the board during my msfs testing. I have yet to test with overclocking the gpu but i'm suspecting somewhat similar results albeit at a higher temperature trade off.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

It was one hell of a show! That's great to hear I'm so pleased I've helped. That tweak sounds interesting although I'd have no idea how to do it safely.

[@NewJerseyJay]

Thank you for mentioning Aerofly it's been a ton of fun! Really enjoy how smooth it runs.

[@brandodurham]

I’ve got a beastly pc, but 30fps in vr just isn’t ideal. I’m tempted to try aerofly

[@NewJerseyJay]

@@brandodurham Buddy Do it! My PC is the same way. Its not the best eye candy like MSFS but it runs so damn smooth and fluid in VR! If you do get it. Make sure you get the AH64 Apache helicopter it's totally free! Awesome! Good luck

[@stonie-oh5vn]

Nice one..cheers for the comparisons..will help upgrading going forward.👍 been hitting il-2 with the quest 2. 40 to 60fps and it looks and runs great with my 1080ti😀

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Pleasure! I'll have some more IL2 videos inbound soon

[@FACrazyCanuck]

I appreciate the effort. There are number of factors that effect FPS. What are your Nvidia settings for anti aliasing, anisotropic filtering, Super Sampling etc. Through experience these settings and others all play a role in FPS and find the user looking for balance as always between performance and visual looks. Thanks for the comparison.

[@neo_265]

Great comparison. I’m surprised to the see the GPURam util being low, not even over 8GB flying over NYC. Im guessing it shoots up at Ultra setting.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Peter, me too! It's probably because I'm remaining in a certain area. I've had over 14gb before!

[@Mari-eb9iy]

Can you check your old processor with the new card, that's mean i5 with 3090, please? There are a lot of discussions about CPU performance in this sim.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hi Mari, I would but I can't actually fit the thing in my old case LOL

[@michaelwmcdonald]

Why didn't you use the new machine and swap both cards out of it? That would then match what the title says and give a fair comparison between the GPU's.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Well tbh there's plenty of bench markers out there, I like to describe my experiences, since raw fps numbers often only tell half the story anyway when in flight sims.

[@barepilot1954]

What NVidia driver version are you using?

[@adrianstealth340]

Good vid thanks , what usb test result are you getting with new pc ? (Quest 2 link oculus test speed tool )

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Adrian I'll check. But it's literally instant now

[@paulsleighty]

Can you not use nvidia shadowplay to record, I find on my system its a lot less resource hungry than obs.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You are right! Shadow play definitely has less of an impact but it's also very limited.

[@paulsleighty]

@@VRFlightSimGuy OK, I'm interested, how / why is obs less limited please.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@paulsleighty I cannot capture a specific window nor can I show multiple cameras.

[@xvasek]

Hello, thank you for this comparison. If somebody could do RX 6900 XT vs RTX 3090 or RTX 3080 - that will be cool

[@kevinbrook7033]

Very hyped for this video. I went from a 7700k 1080Ti system to a 10850k 3090 system but never actually installed Flight Simulator on my old PC so have no idea how much better a job my new machine actually does. I spent a fortune so don't upset me haha!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

lol cheers Kevin see you soon in the chat!

[@kevinbrook7033]

@Travis Clark 15 FPS extra doesn't sound a lot but in MSFS at 4k in VR that's pretty huge! I use ASW 30HZ forced via Oculus Tray Tool for smooth performance with my 3090. If I turn that off the frames vary from the mid-'40s down to about 28 FPS but it's noticeably jerkier. I'm happy with it now, but I'd like a smoother cockpit, moving my head from side to side the dials have a lot of ghosting and take a second to settle down again and look sharp.

[@kevinbrook7033]

@Travis Clark Quite bizarre that we both went from 7700k 1080Ti to 3090 10 core intel computers, for MSFS and Cyberpunk, and both 46 years old! I'm starting to wonder if I have an alter ego/split personality!

[@kevinbrook7033]

@Travis Clark I go back a bit further than that. My first computer was a Spectrum 48K, but the first computer I ever used was a ZX81 at my primary school. I can remember being wowed by an adventure game called Planet of Death, a text adventure where you had to escape from your space ship!

[@OzzySafa]

With obs were you using cpu H.264 to record or were you using your gpu with nvenc for encoding ?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nvenc I believe. Still killed about 7 FPS

[@OzzySafa]

@@VRFlightSimGuy dam really curious to know what the fps difference will be compared with a 6900xt

[@yornav]

I'm running it on a Ryzen 5600x and a RTX3080 and get similar results. But I'm using a Quest 1, which is a bottleneck I guess. Moreover because my CPU and GPU are both heavily underutilizied when running in VR. There is some serious work to do by Asobo to improve performance. But DX12 support will definitely help.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yeah the Quest 1 will give you much better performance due to its lower resolution screen.

[@roborat2000]

Nice comparison video - 100% improvement. Well scripted considering the time gap. Someone is getting better at video production, hehe.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

lol thanks buddy ☺️

[@johnalkiviades2779]

you should of put the 1080ti into your new 10900k rig then compare

[@dasbootuk]

Thanks for all your videos. Seeing your in game settings is really helpful, could you share your OTT settings too? Sounds like you have Oculus Resolution up at Max also? Thanks for all your videos, always look forward to them 👍

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Andy that's super appreciated. Here I'm using full 90hz at 1.7 (native) resolution. It will bring most computers to its knees tbh so I wouldn't recommend it.

[@gcopter1963]

I'm researching the subject as I would like to eventually, get a gaming PC. I've noticed that, all of these YT videos, record off the same computer used to play them, and, from what I've been able to gather thus far, does play a factor when it comes to FPS. I've yet to find a video that offers final FPS numbers compensating for the fact that, the PC used to play the game, is the same as the one used to record the YT video. It's inevitable, I know, that's a given. It would be nice if the creators of these YT videos, could give actual figures of what they actually achieve, without the taxing effects of having to record the video while playing the game. Is this possible? Or, is the difference so negligible that it is not worth mentioning?

[@timsellmann705]

Hey, thanks for the Great video! Can you tell me which Tool you are using for measuring FPS?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Tim, it's through the sim itself. Enable dev mode and it's in the drop down menu 👍

[@timsellmann705]

@@VRFlightSimGuy thank you very much 😊

[@FamKring]

Thanks Steve. Brilliant. How much is the difference with the use of the G2 instead of the Quest2? Did you test that as well, do you plan to overclock the Uber machine to see any difference?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hi thanks! Yes to be honest I fly with the Reverb most of the time now, I get much better performance and visuals than the Quest 2. Its always been my favourite.

[@macgeng]

@@VRFlightSimGuy how are you launching sim with the G2? Like in what order? You start up MSFS first or WMR? Thanks!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

MSFS first, then WMR after.

[@TechTechReviews]

Great video! Are you sure you're at max resolution in the Oculus app? Think it's 1.7x or something like that, I just tried the same settings as you at the start and even at 1.4x resolution I'm getting only 10fps on a 3070 with Ryzen 5900X (12 core). Surely I should be getting more than that? :(

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes definitely 1.7, 90hz

[@CC-gt3ro]

I have ryzen 1800x (3 years old) and 1080ti and samsung odyssey 2880x1600 and i get 32fps super smooth with high settings scaling 100, and details 100, TAA, and cockpit to high. Your machine has a real problem. I do 45fps in 4k, 60fps in 1440p, and 65fps in 1080p. My machine is three years old… what you say is impossible. Or if it is real, as i said your machine has a real problem…fs2020 is really smooth with incredible details on my machine. I just made a video this morming on top of berlin and it is incredible. And i have yoke, pedal and track ir5 ( in 2d). In vr mode, it is very smooth with a lot of texture and details in city and country background. The 1080ti blower edition is incredible..the blower cools my ssd at the same time. The hot air is sent outside of the case so the ssd stay at 45/50C and cpu stay as well at 45/50C. The gpu don’t get over 67C. At only 80/90 of power target. The result you get are impossible.

[@timtoomuch]

Dont be nervous I'm running i9 10850k at 5.1ghz could got 5.3 easily but not worth the extra heat so 5.1 @1.29v and i also have the ring ratio set to 47.i have the corsair capellex h150i and temps are peak 80s in cinnabench and 68 ° in game

[@pwhitey]

Steve, what program are you using to display the FPS?

[@davew1234]

I spent half of yesterday flying london city and new york! Got similar results on my 3080 running at 90% render scaling and a few settings knocked down a bit 👍

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Excellent!

[@nij2k]

Awesome, finally played on my g2 last night 😁followed your prev setup guide for my 1080ti on an i78086k and had pretty bad performance, did have render scale at 80 so I'll try lowering that, got openXR running aswell but haven't changed custom render scale so will try that also, one thing that didn't dawn on me which might sound stupid, I installed it on my second hard drive, a seagate firecuda SSHD and not my main Samsung m2 SSD, do you reckon this would impact performance massively as I know it reads a lot of data

[@speedofsilence]

Same SSD' s here. I think it won't affect fps at all. Maybe loading times will be a tiny bit better on m2. As for resolution, go either 50% open xr, motion smoothing off, 100 ingame with steve's settings from rhe g2 vjdeo, or go 70% openXR smoothing automatic, and 50% ingame as well with medium to low settings to achieve 30fps so that motiin smoothing kicks in. U will loose a lot of G2's clarity with the last option, so I went with option 1 and mediocre but acceptable fps

[@nij2k]

@@speedofsilence awesome, thank you, didn't think it would too much what drive it was on, does take a while to load but I can deal with that 😁but I'll play around with the settings tonight

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hey Neil an SSD won't affect FPS but it WILL affect stuttering. Also Id recommend setting render scale to 70 with the 1080TI and maybe 50-60 in open XR with projection off. Good luck

[@nij2k]

@@VRFlightSimGuy awesome, cheers mate, will play around with the settings tonight, might reinstall it to my main ssd, if I can make space 😁

[@speedofsilence]

Oh, I just noticed you have a SSHD, I thought u mentioned ssd vs m2 ssd....reading too fast. So yes, I would recommend switching to a ssd like Steve said. Btw as a reference: My boot time for fs2020 till main menu is up is 2min15sec on ssd. Online and couple add ons installed.

[@ooof5281]

Hey so what are the settings used? I’d like to know them down to a T. I just got a 3080 and even though it looks good, I get stutters and “stretching” which is weird haha. Thank you! Awesome video!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hi A Dor, I have a number of setup guides now on the channel which may help. What do you mean by stretching?

[@coronapack]

My 8700k @5ghz and watercooled 1080ti @2050/6000, with 32gigs of 3200 c15 corsair ram, I get over 30fps over NYC at 500ft. Everything on ultra and live maps@50mbps internet speed, on 1080p 24inch monitor. I average over 40fps everywhere at altitude. My setup is perfect with zero stutter.

[@TheHexperience]

before "Limited by GPU" after "Limited by CPU".. overclocking your 10900K will improve the frames... As you would think with a 3090. ;) --ps-- after some testing with the devmode display it's possible that OBS is causing your "CPU bottleneck". ALSO noticed, for Rift S, 100% render in both game AND tray tool is actually higher than the native resolution (1440p in the rift s) to get actual 100% I have to set the Oculus debug tool to 0.89 rendering. Then the game says 1440p... interesting...

[@kevinbrook7033]

Panel resolution and render resolution are very different things. The panel resolution of the Rift S is 2560 x 1440. However because you view the screen through curved Fresnel lenses, this curvature creates a barrel shaped image, resulting in under-sampled pixels in the centre. In other words running at its panel resolution is less than 1:1 pixel mapping. To perceive the image at its full native resolution you need to run it at its actual render resolution, which I believe is 1648 x 1776 per eye, doubled up to make 3296 x 3552, i,e much higher than its panel resolution.

[@adrianstealth340]

just built new PC, 10900k with 3080 , going from 10 series to 30 series totally worth it imo, only used VR for few hours and the quest 2 performs brilliantly and looks sharper than stand alone, the 3series is a good buy, the nvidia 2series wasn’t

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nice one Adrian

[@rhinous1199]

Where’d you pick up your 3080? Been watching for months and they are always sold out.

[@adrianstealth340]

@@rhinous1199 keep refreshing amazon about 20 times per day & you’ll catch one but be quick , amazon get them few times per week & sell at retail , they are only there for 20 to 30mins though , good luck Ps obviously ignore the ones at outrageous prices by resellers I’m referring to the ones sold directly from amazon

[@Marknewell273]

6500-7000 mb vram, seeing a lot higher sure would have helped me justify wanting a 3090 over the 3080. But from what I hear, it is still a noticeable difference in this sim in particular, and I expect even more so as CPU's get better or become better utilized. Thanks for the videos!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Mark!

[@oliverlane4050]

I thought an UberMachine was an overturned Prius? Thank for the comparison 😀

[@peterfinkill8098]

Nice new computer Steve. Where did you buy it from? Can you believe that I'm still waiting for HP to get some stock of the G2.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hi Peter unfortunately it's totally out of stock already, much like the Reverb G2. Crazy times. I really hope you can get one soon.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@17ll3 x214 Actually right now, that's the worse thing you can do. Buying one pre built is cheaper.

[@Simmymind360]

I'm fortunate enough to own a Valve index..and the very reason I'm hoping to get a 30 series card is for better frame rates..as index can hit 144 hz..I wouldn't invest in a Oculus headset at all for the fact it can only get 90 hz..

[@jamess6014]

You'll never get 144 fps. You won't even get 90 so I wouldn't worry. Quest is a good headset for the price

[@cann5565]

Even the jump from 2080ti to 3090 is worth every penny imo. I did this and have no regrets....I look forward to your analysis.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thanks Samuel, this test is as raw as it gets. No hiding from FPS here!!

[@mattcruz5915]

damn so I wonder if I should upgrade to a 3090? 2080ti here with g2. I'm around 30-35fps, but I'd like to crank my settings up higher. does overclocking GPU and/or CPU help?

[@ruiaz701]

@@mattcruz5915 In my case, I have a G2 and had a 2070 Super, now I have a 3090 and the difference is remarkable. From 2080ti to 3090 it is not so much difference but in VR and MFS it can make the difference at 3090.

[@Evilkingus]

Now we just need 3 times the power of the most powerful GPU (currently) to get the 90hz we all crave as a minimum. We'll probably be there in 8 years time.

[@secton]

Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson! Now I want 😩 to see that concert in VR!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

One of the best gigs I've ever been to!

[@FSX2015]

I head i7 3770k 4,5ghz ,gtx 1080 and ultra all in vr Always about 30 FPS.

[@happyme7055]

i have the Asus RTX 2080 TI... and i used your setting with the latest nvidia drivers - 13 fps on my G2 Reverb :/ EDIT: when i fly the 747 fps is about 10 - with a small military jet about 30?!?!

[@bob23301]

I ditched the QII and went back to my Vive Pro with its HDMI port and the performance from the QII was miles better, so in my view the QII is held back by having no dedicated DP and that encoding is hitting performance big time.

[@SAINT-ANTONIO]

Now every body learned why flight pre-check's are important... ☺️

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

😅😅

[@UkDave3856]

Zombie and Manson at the same venue. nice 🤘

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Oh it was an awesome gig I tell you 😁

[@The1PatSmith]

That "Uber" you got, did the beard trimmer come with it, and was it easy to use? 🍻

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

LOL I wondered if anyone would mention that 😂😂

[@Pe11ePD]

60% in performance increase? It's literally 2x increase = 100%. :) You had around 15-17fps, now you have 30-35. And yes, it's not the worst case scenario. Add some nasty overcast weather with rain, and maybe A320, and do the test. :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Weather makes no difference to my setup. I'm not mathematician but 12fps Vs 35fps is at least 60% (I think lol)

[@CC-gt3ro]

At equal power the 1080ti is nearly as powerful than rtx3090. I can run fs2020 in vr 2880x1600 with only 200w. Rtx3090 uses 350w. So to me for the difference in fps, the 1080ti is as good. It cost me less in electricity and It is very smooth in vr and i get 59fps in high end settings at 1440p with detail and scaling at 100. No need to change. I get 32fps in vr mode. In 1080p i get 65fps in high settings. I play in 1440p with trackir5 or in vr with my samsung odyssey for vfr flight.

[@briank3754]

Double the frame rate, ugh. Looks this upgrade to the 3070 will be very short lived. Planned obsolescence, I was going to get a 3080 ASAP, but have to just go all in on the 3090. Can’t get one anyway so glad to see the 1080ti is at least playable. From I’m what I’m seeing in benchmarks the 3070 should give me about a 20% improvement over my 1080ti.

[@CC-gt3ro]

,my 1080ti blower edition give me better result than rtx3070. Easily. 65fps 1080p, 60fps 1440p, 45fps 4k , 32fps vr samsung odyssey , all at high settings, 100 scaling details and TAA. And i set my gpu only at 80/90 power target and limited to 67C temp, 1488 core speed, boost at 1700. I can push more further at 1540 or 1620, same for the memory i keep it at 10700, i can easily go over 11000. My cpu is not overclocked (ryzen 1800x). I bet the rtx3070 don’t do that because i am close to rtx3080 numbers.

[@qiyuxuan9437]

I have a 5700xt, and a HP reverb g1, probably not even going to try vr in msfs before they update to dx12 lol😂

[@jameslee-pevenhull5087]

i5 8600K @ 4.7GHz, 32Gb RAM, 2080ti. Getting 32 fps.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Don't forget, this is using the native resolution of the Quest 2, render scale at 100, I am recording (knocks off 7fps) and I'm in really densely populated area

[@4secsharkmr352]

Yes it is🤣👍 judgement day is coming. The ÜberMachine will show its beasty nature😁

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

There is no hiding from this test!!

[@djtaylorutube]

You're losing 10 fps straight away by not animating the RGB on the case fans. I have mine set to "Rainbow" and FS runs much smoother. :)

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

🤣

[@3asyrider75]

1080ti is min requirement for VR. Ok am going to a 3080 before I go VR

[@Prowler2k]

You lost some beard, must be them new UBER fans ;),give me back my shirt ;) thank you for the vid

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

LOL I wonder if anyone would notice 🤣 As for the T Shirt, all I can say is you have great taste sir

[@jocelynvita1376]

To;dr?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Huh?

[@Chris_Love]

iS It WoRtH IT?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That IS the question!

[@Juan-wj3vk]

Doesn't this just prove how massively un-optimized MSFS is?

[@cblack3470]

Imagine spending 3k for 10 FPS

[@way2dumb]

dude just swap out the gpu onmly

[@tigerfeet3995]

Spoiler: Yes.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

🤔🤔

[@tigerfeet3995]

Spoiler: No?

[@tigerfeet3995]

Spoiler: Depends!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@tigerfeet3995 That is the question 🤔

[@Mightymoose02]

It is just crazy that you can get max 33-35 FPS with the very high-end CPU and GPU. Something is not quite right with MSFS..Whatever reason it is not a game/sim for the masses.

[@CC-gt3ro]

I get 65fps in 1080p, 60fps in 1440p and 32fps in vr mode 2880x1600 with samsung odyssey. All of this with high settings and TAA anti aliasing and 100 scaling and details. My machine is 3 years old. Fs2020 is very good when you consider it simulate a plane and the background and clouds. It is very difficult to program such quality in normal pc. I am a developer and appreciate the development they made. I can believe they were able to program. Try to develop with the directx12 simply a simple scene and then come back. You will see. I have only…a ryzen 1800x, 1080ti blower, 32GB ddr4/3200, ssd nvme 1.3. Asus crosshair vi hero, seasonic powersupply. Solid components but very accessible today. I bought the best 3 years/ 4 years ago.

[@armauploads1034]

It makes no Difference.