MSI MPG B650 Edge Wifi AM5 Motherboard The Better Choice?

[@mikesunboxing]

Board available from affiliate links: Amazon Local: amzn.to/43qIslC Ebay UK: ebay.us/nDNhBa Ebay US: ebay.us/eV7wPO Ebay CA: ebay.us/cjX0jI Ebay AUS: ebay.us/bPh50w

[@JeffLewis-g5d]

Thank you for a response on this. Would like to send rest of build to you to see what you think if I can?

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels@@JeffLewis-g5d

[@Senrab46]

Smart looking board and like the idea of multiple m2s. Quite a progress from my b450 where top slot halved the gpu lanes! Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath 🐈👍

[@mikesunboxing]

it is a nice board but we pay for the niceties

[@uglybob7505]

MSI MAG mobo ! hubba hubba !!! Looks the part, well worth the extra 30 quid over the Tomahawk. That feature set is impressive which is what you would expect from the MAG board. Looking forward to the full review AND the BIOS walkthrough too. Thanks Mike and Kath

[@mikesunboxing]

cheers bob coming soon

[@jamesmiscellaneous]

Agree, I'll pay 30 bucks more just for the aesthetics and paint job.

[@cottonbear2777]

@@jamesmiscellaneous It’s MPG btw not mag

[@PaulBakewell]

Great video thanks Mike. Taking of the edge, Bono and the Edge walk into a bar, the barman looks up and says Not U2 again

[@mikesunboxing]

lol i think i would say the same thing

[@mickywoods]

Nice looking board - thanks for the detailed tour Mike😀

[@mikesunboxing]

it is a nice board, now that it is stable i am pretty happy with it

[@azadipti4499]

Latest Beta Bios for the board 7E10v171(Beta version) finally makes XMP and EXPO stable now with the white or black Kingston FURY Beast 64GB 6000MTs , I have the white, nice and stable and superfast out of the box only clicking on profile XMP.. Very happy with this board and MSI quality and support, a far better buy in terms of value than X670 or other B650 versions. Cheers Mike.

[@RUHappyATM]

Was it easy to update? I ask as it's a boitch trying to update MSI's itx version.

[@tobytoxd]

Thanks for showing! At 14:06 i recommend to just use the screwdriver to position the plastic nut. I couldn't even listen to what you were saying while you were fiddling around :D

[@tenajnin]

Great overview sir! Currently looking to move off my old 8600k/1070 gaming setup and it’s hard to look past the B650 boards for value.

[@mikesunboxing]

I was tempted to go x670 but for now the prices are way too high

[@patricklebel1141]

I bought 2 Asrock b550 boards lately, and both had a manual included..Wonder if they are still doing it with their newer board..🤔

[@aaldrich1982]

Hi Mike, I've noticed that AM4 boards are starting to disappear from retail as AM5 becomes the norm. For those of us who spent a lot on a 5950x, do you think it's worth buying a backup mobo as chips seem to outlast boards?

[@mikesunboxing]

well if you have the money for it then maybe, or consider trading your 5950 whilst it still has some resell value

[@aaldrich1982]

@@mikesunboxing I think I'd prefer to buy another mobo, maybe something really top end, than go through the fuss of selling a platform. AM5 isn't mature enough for my liking yet and the 13900k would be a whole lot of expense just to get into a platform that's as mature as it'll get and potentially be into the territory of mobo failure later on.

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

Mike's Review & How to is Worthy of a Support comment. Like & a share 🙂

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks and have a great day

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

@@mikesunboxing Had alot of work today. but thank's 😀

[@gustavhoo]

So you personally recommend the edge over tomahawk? I didn’t quite notice the difference between the 2 boards except for the cooling shield for the last m.2 slot. Did I miss something bigger? It’s the same price for the boards in my country…

[@mikesunboxing]

the m.2 shield and the extra rgb is it really but at the same price the edge is the obvious choice

[@edwintan4066]

Nice video Mike. Any thoughts on how this board compares to the MSI B650 Carbon?

[@mikesunboxing]

i reviewed that one as well, not much between them really

[@nifftwatkins3135]

Hi Mike. Really great review, just purchased. For clarity, will using two M.2 drives impact the performance of my graphics card? I am buying an AMD Rx 7900 XT. Not sure yet which cpu, 7700 or 7800x3d.

[@mikesunboxing]

M2_3 & PCI_E2 share the bandwidth. M2_3 will run at x2 speed and PCI_E2 will run at x2 speed when installing devices in both slots. it isn't totally clear from the documentation, if in doubt use the m.2 1 and m.2 3 they run from the CPU and chipset ∙

[@OzzCyrus]

Great video and thanks for uploading. I just had a question in regards to the motherboard a m.2 storage and if i will have any issues. I'll be installing a rtx 4090 graphics card and planning to install two Samsung 980 Pro 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD. would i have any issues regarding the m.2 ssd's or the graphics card slowing down because ive install two ssd's ?

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes unfortunately that is a limitation of the chipset, but you shouldn’t really notice it unless benchmarking

[@zareffx]

Mike, would you be kind enough to explain the M.2 situation properly? I didn't quite understand from the video. Thank you.

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@sol-hb8zg]

Where did you get it from? From what I can see atm, it’s oos most places and where it is, it’s like £60 plus more lol. This does look solid and may be what I get if I move to am5

[@mikesunboxing]

mine was from Amazon at the time, i return the tomahawk and paid a little extra

[@LordAtrocities]

This might save someone from having their CPU pop. Make sure your ram is AMD ready. A lot of the "popping" CPU's are using INTEL optimized ram and the memory controller when set to the XMP settings is causing over volting and killing the CPU.

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks for the info

[@georgekofinas1057]

Actually its only in ASUS and GIGABYTE motherboards and 7000X3D CPUs as far as i have researched this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZOql5Zjf6erors

[@beilence]

Doesnt matter. Just make sure it is in the manufacturers qvl list.

[@tobytoxd]

From what i read in the internet, AMD ready is pure marketing. The RAM sticks you can buy are optimized for Intel and AMD alike.

[@victorio404]

is that one much better than the MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK then? Why did you return the tomahawk, was there a problem with it?

[@mikesunboxing]

the tomahawk was crashing for some reason, maybe bios i don't know why. but this seemed much more stable from day one, and looks nicer and has pretty PCIe sharing in my mind

[@victorio404]

@@mikesunboxing thank you. Though not sure what "PCIe sharing in my mind" means? Can you please explain in more detail about the PCIe limitations mentioned in the video? For example I have 1 nvme gen 3x4 and planning to add another gen 4X4 - will that require limiting the speed of one of them? I'll probably go with the EDGE as the price is only 10euro more than the tomahawk.

[@derptweaker945]

​@@mikesunboxing Ow, i was looking into The TOMAHAWK just because i heard it was on of the most stable motherboards :S Did you use RAM that's in the "QVL" ? I'm a Creator & need a stable setup. Can i trust "MSI MPG B650 Edge Wifi" or should i buy a more expensive (or slower) Intel system instead, i work in 3D applications not so much video edit. So intel is not a must for me.

[@AmirEpix]

​@@derptweaker945but intel cpus are better in productivity

[@derptweaker945]

@@AmirEpix please specify why you say that?

[@firas.jn571]

I want the Strix b650-a but asus b650 boards seemed to have an issue with the bios which fries my Ryzen cpu unless i update my bios to the latest version, so can you make a video guiding how to update rog boards bios for beginners?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that has been done already, search for Asus B650 Tuf gaming bios flash, we did it a while back

[@Lasto1766]

what back fan are you using ? I have struggle to find one for a white style build because I am very confused about the pin connection.

[@mikesunboxing]

that is the thermaltake Ct140 argb

[@derptweaker945]

Would you consider this to be the best choice for stability? I'm planning to use DDR5 "KF560C36BBEAK2-64" & 7900x

[@mikesunboxing]

mine is rock solid now with a similar setup

[@AndrewAustinFrustrated]

Late to the party but good video on a board I'm likely buying after all the trouble a friend has had with his Asus board. Just a curiosity will I have any troubles fitting an arctic liquid freezer iii on this ?.

[@mikesunboxing]

should be fine, but not tried it myself

[@AndrewAustinFrustrated]

@@mikesunboxing Thanks for that.

[@partha_ratul]

This msi b650 edge wifi or gigabyte b650 aorus elite ax? I've heard msi has serious bios update issues with 7000 series processors. Should i choose gigabyte?

[@mikesunboxing]

i would choose msi personally

[@m.alimardihubeis4932]

Hi Mike! just want to ask, does this mobo still compatible if I install a GALAX RTX 3070 Ti (On click OC) on it? Appreciate the review by the way! :)

[@mikesunboxing]

yes sir

[@m.alimardihubeis4932]

@@mikesunboxing Thanks a lot for the response! :)

[@mikesunboxing]

@@m.alimardihubeis4932 No problem 🙂

[@firas.jn571]

Which is better? this board or the Strix b650-a ???

[@mikesunboxing]

probably the Strix just in terms of BIOS maturity

[@dheerajspeaks]

Cant decide between this and the msi x670e gaming plus wifi which one do you think is better irrespective of price?... Also is the msi mag x670e tomahawk wifi better than the msi x670e gaming plus wifi ?

[@mikesunboxing]

the e series boards will all be technically better as they have more PCIe lanes. if you need those it will be an easy choice, if not then i liked the edge wifi as it was about the same as the tomahawk but looks better and more features and all m.2 drives covered

[@Snafu2346]

I picked up this board. I was wondering why on userbenchmark, (yes yes I know) why my ssd's were benchmarking so low. On crystal disk mark they were showing their listed speeds. On the main m.2 I have my 990 pro. On the lower two m.2 I have the Crucial P3, and an older intel 660p. But they were all showing lower than expected performance at least according to user benchmark. I doubt Ill never notice any real world deficit. I've always wondered why on mostly all boards, that the motherboard cable faces forward when most cables come from the side. Why don't they have the motherboard 24 pin facing toward the side? The usb plug right under the 24 pin also faces forward. If they faced to the side it could have been a lot easier for my cables to plug in.

[@mikesunboxing]

i found the same at times, i ended up running a few times to get a proper result

[@hamstergt1869]

The M.2_2 header should be powered by the CPU according to the website.

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks for that

[@DontEatCream]

Just got this motherboard and uh... The chipset heatsink wobbles? Did that happen on your board? I don't have any problem with temperatures, and a quick look over shows that everything is intact. But its just a little weird, never seen that on any other board before

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah just checked mine, it does also, think it is because the offset spring pin mountings and the height of the chipset gives it wiggle room

[@DontEatCream]

@@mikesunboxing Awesome man, thanks for checking up on that. I was super worried, so I completely disassembled my PC and really looked at the heatsink. Like you said, the spring mounting is on 2 opposite corners so there's a little bit of movement. But the thermal pad is intact. I gave the whole thing a big yank, and nothing broke, so that's reassuring. Heh

[@Swavyy21]

Is MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard the better choice compared to MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

x670e will be better

[@Swavyy21]

@@mikesunboxing Doesn't have optic unfortunately tho

[@mikesunboxing]

You should have said that, in that case you have fewer options

[@katsnow9256]

It's a shame that the fan blocks the RGB dragon!

[@organiccleanfoodconnection]

What’s the big difference between this and the carbon? Thanks

[@mikesunboxing]

versus.com/en/msi-mpg-b650-carbon-wifi-vs-msi-mpg-b650-edge-wifi

[@oozygoop1373]

Just sent my tomahawk back in exchange for this 🎉

[@Kamehaiku]

I was torn on the 2, decided edge since it shipped on time. What do you think of it so far?

[@oozygoop1373]

@@Kamehaiku so far so good. Haven’t had any issues.

[@emanuelwtf2678]

Hi! Is it compatible with a ryzen 7 5800X or a 7 5800x3d? Along with a Gpu 4070 ti?

[@mikesunboxing]

no you want B550 or X570 this is AM5 not AM4

[@GhostOfTheUchiha]

What should I get MSI MPG B650 EDGE WIFI or ASUS PRIME X670-P WIFI (they are the same prize) please answer quickly since I’m going to purchase one of them very soon

[@mikesunboxing]

the x670 is a better chipset, so it depends on what you are planning to connect

[@JeffLewis-g5d]

Can I run a Ryzen 9 7900x on this board? Also looking at RTX 4070. Doing a new build for my daughter

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that would be a great combo! Even better if you use our affiliate links 😂😎😇

[@cryonic.]

14:00 i didnt really understand that part. i thought the top ssd slot was gen 5 x4 and the bottom slots were both gen 4 x4. so how is bottom right slot slower and the bottom left is the regular speed?

[@mikesunboxing]

bifurcation and how the chipset is programmed

[@cryonic.]

@@mikesunboxing so to avoid that whole situation, x670 is the way to go?

[@mikesunboxing]

@@cryonic. yes a full fat x670e will have more pcie lanes

[@otropic7592]

Is this better than the Gigabyte B650 Auros Pro AX?

[@mikesunboxing]

very similar, the gigabyte has the edge with VRM i think and the GPU latch is cool

[@Scoobydcs]

how far apart are the pcie slots? will a 4 slot gfx card fit with clearence?

[@mikesunboxing]

wouldn't the case choice be more important for that?

[@Scoobydcs]

@@mikesunboxing no because i have a pcie card that uses the other slot, obviously i cant do that if the gfx card covers the other slot on the mobo

[@paulleighton9568]

On this board do you have to run a m2 on the first slot? or can you just run a gen 4 by it self in the 2nd slot as the main m2 for like your operating system?

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah use whatever slot suits your needs

[@willy7968]

@@mikesunboxingis this board good for rtx 4070 and R7 7800x3d combo? I have about $40 discount on it

[@duca31]

Hi there! Can i install 2x16 6000mhz and turn on expo profile on this motherboard without posible issues? Cpu would be r7700x

[@mikesunboxing]

depends which ram you buy. any EXPO rated set should be fine

[@tylermillsaps-jo8rt]

deciding between this or nzxt n7 b650e. (7800x3d, 7900xtx)

[@mikesunboxing]

personally i would avoid the nzxt boards unless really really cheap, they are just asrock boards with extra plastics and less support

[@amaro99_60]

Olá, comentário br, recomenda essa para atualmente para um 7700x3d?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is fine

[@MrAckers75]

Looks pretty much identical to my z690 tomahawk apart from silver heat sinks.

[@mikesunboxing]

nice looking board

[@MrAckers75]

@@mikesunboxing yeah look good for it’s price

[@servus6862]

Whan i google MSI Motherboard for Gaming it Shows me only the X670E Gaming plus Wifi and the X670E Tomahawk. Is this MB at the same level for Gaming or is it as bad as the other ones?

[@mikesunboxing]

this is great for gaming, the x670 variants have more PCIe lanes and extra USB ports and maybe better VRM but not really needed for the majority of people

[@servus6862]

@@mikesunboxing thank you very much for the fast answer. Than i can buy the B650 Edge Wifi.

[@brosquadgaming8538]

Does this support XMP profile and EXPO can you please tell me if i go with 6600Mhz will this support ? i didnt seen XMP profile support mentioned anywhere in website of MSI or any third party websites

[@mikesunboxing]

XMP is for Intel EXPO is AMD. If you get RAM that is EXPO that is the best option and 6000 is about the highest you will reliably get on AM5

[@brosquadgaming8538]

@@mikesunboxing Thanks mike appreciate it

[@mikesunboxing]

@@brosquadgaming8538 any problems or need more help you can ask in the discord chat

[@IMJDOCK]

I’m getting this board with the 7800xd3 and idk what cooler to get with it

[@mikesunboxing]

lots of choices depending on your preference. I would go with a thermaltake th360v2

[@alexwilliams7844]

Is there any restrictions with m.2 ssds? I want to have 3 but fmdont want the lanes to change tmfrom 16 to 8

[@mikesunboxing]

you need a X670 board really for that

[@alexwilliams7844]

@mikesunboxing thank you I will look into it. But what do I need to look for specifically to know if it can do what I need or not

[@alexwilliams7844]

@@mikesunboxing would a Asrock x670e pro rs work ?

[@mikesunboxing]

@@alexwilliams7844 This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@Scoobydcs]

no physical manual is a terrible idea!!

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah it is a bit daft really for a modern retail product

[@DopeColdLava]

what is best of motherboard for ryzen 5 5600g cpu, i have currently msi b450 gaming plus

[@DopeColdLava]

does b550 or x570? and which one asus motherboard for that

[@mikesunboxing]

no point changing it really the 5600g is limited to PCIe gen 3

[@DopeColdLava]

@@mikesunboxing okay, And i have gpu rx 6600 is that okay for this cpu smh like that?

[@josiasnicaraguanavas6076]

Can i use ryzen 9 7900x3d on this mobo? Cause i bought i want to buy that cpu, but im not to sure if would be compatible

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is fine

[@dystopia-usa]

I ordered this motherboard this last week to pair with the Ryzen 9 7900 65W 12C/24T CPU, 64GB Kingston Fury Beast 4800/6000 DDR5 (4x16GB), ASUS TUF 7800 XT GPU, & a single Solidigm (Intel) P44 Pro 2TB M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD (ER=1200TBW) as boot/primary drive in top M.2 slot. I'm ditching the mediocre stock AMD single 96mm fan "Wraith" cooler that comes with the 7900 CPU & using a DeepCool AK620 Digital CPU twin heat-sink & dual-120mm fan cooler instead. My secondary/archive/storage drive will be the Solidigm (intel) D3-S4620 SATA3 2.5" 960GB Enterprise-Class SSD (ER=7100TBW), which is a reliability & endurance beast (I've been using variations of them since 2015 when they were still Intel branded 2.5" SSD's). Quite a few BIOS updates have been released for this board over the last year, so it should be stable platform by now to build on.

[@mikesunboxing]

nice setup you have there

[@ghostforce2376]

Does it take ddr4 as well or only ddr5?

[@mikesunboxing]

only ddr5

[@marcusbehn1321]

Hello everyone, I would like to get this board because it fits very well with my setup (currently planning a new PC). I've seen a lot of posts and videos where people complain about the boot times ( generally the BIOS). But these posts were all 5-7 months old. Can anyone tell me if these problems still exist or if there are already fixes?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it is much better now, i even did a video on it

[@NathxnTG]

14:00 so if i have a gen4 ssd should i still fit in the top gen 5 pcie slot? Or does the gen 4 pcie slot speed only half if the gen 5 slot is filled?

[@mikesunboxing]

No it is fine it will run at the drives native speed

[@NathxnTG]

Sorry mate just to clarify what question are you saying no to? Should i fit it into the top gen 5 slot or into one of the gen4 slots

[@xm8930]

I want to buy this motherboard, and i have a ryzen 5 7600x cpu.. could someone please help me with whst cpu cooler i could use so doesn't hide the dragon 😆.. I was going to get the peerless assassin se 120, but it looks to big is there another good cooler I could use that wont hide the dragon

[@mikesunboxing]

The stock amd one won’t block it but temps will be higher

[@bruce3579]

What's a better board with pcie 5.0?

[@mikesunboxing]

not sure sorry

[@kidkapacity9770]

can i used AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-core, 24-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor ? for this motherboard

[@mikesunboxing]

No this is for am5 socket you need a b550 board or x570

[@kidkapacity9770]

So what’s good upgrade for this bored ? For Amd Ryzen ?

[@kevinbortner1222]

Can I use ddr4 in this?

[@mikesunboxing]

no sorry AM5 processors don't support DDR4

[@kevinbortner1222]

@@mikesunboxing thanks for the reply!

[@stefbreaker]

Can i use my ddr3 ram or i need new ones? .. .. .. Sorry but these comments are just..... xD xD xD

[@mikesunboxing]

you will need DDR5 memory for this board

[@Username4453]

This board vs the MSI X670-P Wifi for the same price?

[@mikesunboxing]

I would probably get the x670 for the extra bandwidth and lanes

[@highrez3449]

Would AMD Ryzen 9 5900 work good with this motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

no it physically won't fit, you need B550 or X570 for 5000 series or 7000 series for B650

[@michaelthompson9798]

Such a sexy looking motherboard 😉🥰🤤by MSI 👍😇!

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it really is