MSI Raider GE78 unboxing: i9-13980HX / nVidia RTX 4090

MSI Raider GE78HX:
-13th Gen Intel Raptor Lake Core i9-13980HX
nVidia RTX 4090 16GB GDDR6
17" QHD+ 16:10 2560x1600 @240Hz, 3ms DCI-P3 100%
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[@c-v-n3322]

This was a perfect video I like seeing whats all inside without a lot of talking just simple info that other youtubers fail most of the time for me.

[@Sanadtm]

THAT MAGICAL SOOTHING VOICE AGAIN, Bee listing to it since 2013. Love your Voice my brother.

[@GenTechPC]

Thank you. :)

[@187nellybelly]

I like the Sam Fisher Splinter Cell Thermal view of the laptop after gaming the best!

[@mjrootz]

Thanks! I just bought the 4070 version of this laptop from COSTCO. I don't need the expense of the 4090 and I only run one favorite game (Empyrion).. I had a GE77 earlier and it died due to excessive heat.. I bought a cooling fan base for this new one. I am a fan of MSI so this should be a great laptop.. Thanks for the honest reviews.

[@thachlel]

how is the screen? I tested the ge68 in costco, its screen is so dim and color is so dull! how ge68 compare to this one, 2k 240hz? please let me know thx!

[@mjrootz]

@@thachlel I really love my new 78HX from Costco. The screen is amazing very very bright. In fact I have it near the kitchen window sitting on my table which faces the window no problem. I had the Raider 77. It overheated and died and I really loved that laptop. I play a game called Empyrion and the new 2600 by 1800 graphics look really really good on that game. I can now see texture such as shine on metal objects so the answer your question. Yes, the graphics are incredible. The screen is very bright and I’ve been very impressed. What I would recommend is by yourself a little stand and get the back corner up about a quarter inch. I just use a couple padsand use the high setting on your fans if you’re gonna be gaming something that takes a lot of horsepower. Keep it cool.

[@mjrootz]

@@thachlel as I said earlier, I had the raider 77 earlier which overheated I took it back to Costco after 18 months they gave me a full refund so I applied it to this raider 78. It was about $400 more expensive than the previous one, but I figured it’s the next step up, really like Costco warranty

[@khooricky-be5bz]

this review better than Jarrod's Tech Review and many other channel review !

[@martinalmaestro7265]

Thank you , straight to the point perfect review

[@haki3353]

No mini led, no g-sync 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@MGRogue]

I’m starting to love NVIDIA G-Sync. I have it on my ASUS Strix SCAR 18 gaming laptop. No matter what the framerate is, if it goes up and down, everything stays smooth and no hitches. If you don’t have a stable 60 FPS with any game on this particular laptop, the gaming experience is awful

[@danielbarakat]

I ordered the scar 16 from gentech. But there's a part of me that wants this instead...ahh decisions Favorite retailer for gaming laptops!!!!

[@jitkundough]

For those who have the 12UHS-063, it's only true superiority is in that extra heat pipe and a few more CUDA CORES. However, they kept it in the same price range. The real advance in that there is a GPU made on the 4nm scale, which means higher performance at a lower TDP; this is very promising, and when combined with the extra cooling capacity, it means more computing power without changing the shell, frame or weight. Now that's progress. Now, if MSI offered a buyback/upgrade program, this would be a no-brain er. When someone asks, "Then what do they do with the 3080 Ti laptops that come in?" Easy; they make sure they're functional, and put them into a fresh plastic shell, which is then sold again as REFURBISHED for 75% of original detail. NO E-WASTE, and a great deal for someone willing to be two generations behind the curve. Someone who can get into one of these is willing to invest in the new one as they come out to be as bleeding edge as they can be-especially when added productivity means getting your projects encoded or transocded faster. Render times mean greater turnaround, which means more profitable. Gamers will have access to the DLSS 3, which I hope the gatekeepers at NVIDIA release later on. Remember that the coding for drivers can make a HUGE difference in how well a GPU performs. DirectX13 will prove that. Those who play Flight Simulator 2020, the fans feel and sound exactly like an a320NEO! On a purely aesthetic note; the 12UHS-063 is ALL BLACK, so when you have the lighting completely off, it's very discreet. That red strip on the new one is a deal-breaker for me. WHEN, oh WHEN will MSI get the message that those who can spend $6,500.00 for this machine, and add quad 990 PRO NVME Drives, DO NOT WANT RGB, RED STRIPES and all the other crap that screams "STEAL ME, and bash me over the head for my laptop, please!" You're putting people's lives at risk, unless they never venture outside with their laptop.

[@MGRogue]

True, that red strip design at the back is not a good look at all

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

Hate any rgb and gamer aesthetics! 😡

[@jitkundough]

@@mikaelbiilmann6826 As mentioned, all lighting turned off makes it look like an all black unit.

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

@@jitkundough I saw that. I just think it is more stuff that can break, and I never am going to use it. 🙂

[@trilingualkid]

this thing is more powerful than my i7-5960x with a 2080ti 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Razors378]

Great laptop when it bricks from a bios update

[@Rr-j4x]

i plan to buy it next year if costco still has it

[@anthonym_8863]

Isn't that 19k Cinebench score a little low? I've seen others with the same CPU benchmark around 30k.

[@mikemischler2886]

I was thinking the same thing, he should be getting over 30k scores on R23 and he should be getting higher scores on other benchmarks, its definitely not on performance mode.

[@ossieos9962]

I think tests done on mshybrid mode

[@vitalymichailov387]

@@ossieos9962 Its not affects on the cpu score...it have to getting ~30000... Mine raider, with 12700H do 18800... 14cores 20 threads...Something wrong with them, thermal throttling...

[@mikemischler2886]

@@ossieos9962 i think you are right as well and it could be in balanced mode vs performance mode as well.

[@DynamicPhil84]

WOW. The RTX 4090 mobile smoked my desktop 3080 Ti in the Blender benchmarks... daaaaang.

[@xTurtleOW]

the laptop costs way over 4k so it should

[@Burago2k]

Can't imagine a laptop with a 4090 to last long, imaganing the amount of heat a 4090 and i9 under heavy load in that small space despite laptops being better now...

[@ARain1973]

The cinebench score is not right for that CPU, you’re dropping 1/3 of performance somewhere ….

[@maltorro2005]

Fu....g amazing product. Have to buy it.

[@БабкаДед-д4е]

СУПЕР!!!! Вот нет никакого ЖМ в СО. Обычная термопаста. Это круто. Классный обзор. Аппарат мощный.

[@mach4431]

great video！but can you also test the display brightness?

[@Ric0ceronte]

Thanks a lot!😎👍🔥🍿🐧👏

[@synstark6858]

Can we get the same video for Scar 18 RTX 4090 unboxing/review please!

[@GenTechPC]

yes coming soon.

[@synstark6858]

@GenTechPC Awesome, thank you! Can you check for coil whine? A few reviewers said they have CW on their units, so I'm curious if all of them are like that or just bad luck

[@GenTechPC]

@@synstark6858 Ok will do.

[@euan3858]

Just what I was looking for! I’m just a bit concerned with how loud that fan is. I totally get laptop fans are quite loud but would you say in your experience it’s pretty good or bad?

[@eloyhbermudez]

what do you prefer ? gpu frying or keep your laptop cool regardless of the fan speed? gaming laptop being loud is something you have to accept

[@georgeonderko5273]

I’m in the same boat. I’ve heard nothing of vapor chambers or extra fans. Regular heat sinks and 2 fans seems like they will need to spoil up a lot to cool it. Asus is using conductonaut and 3 fans with a vapor chamber. Even the gigabyte 17x is using 3 fans and a vapor chamber.

[@jaybruce593]

@@georgeonderko5273 I've got a SCAR18 that has the three fans, and seems to be a lot quieter than the raider came across as in this video. That said, the SCAR18 does feel a bit "prototype" and rough around the edges whereas the Raider is seemingly a more polished consumer product offering.

[@АлександрАлександр-з6х7е]

Thanks! Very good review!!Do you think Kingston Fury on 5600 will be better when replacing RAM with 64 gigabytes?

[@GenTechPC]

There are intel chipset limitations, 5600RAM will still only run at 4800MHz.

[@АлександрАлександр-з6х7е]

@@GenTechPC,Thank you

[@derekcranson2307]

I got this model of laptop and kingston fury 64gb of memory works at 5600mhz ,but you have u to do some changes in bios.

[@vudejaos]

Very good video

[@MGRogue]

70 DBA while under load, the fans are so loud, the same as the Raider GE76 that I owned for one year. Temps and cooling are awful to say the least. I currently sold it to swap to an ASUS STRIX SCAR 18 (G834) with the Intel Core i9 13980HX and NVIDIA RTX 4090 (16GB) which I'm receiving in the mail today by DPD. It has a 18" 2K screen, rather than a 17.3" 4K one, but it means that I get better performance and 4K on a gaming laptop is kind of pointless. I'll hook the laptop up to a 4KTV via HDMI for 4K gaming.

[@JLawL]

They make a 2k version of the MSI, this was my first MSI after 5 different Asus swapouts in 2 years. The power adapter wears out the connection on the motherboard in 6-8 months. It will break, and Asus won't fix it. Hope you got a warranty.

[@MGRogue]

@@JLawLI’ve owned the ASUS Strix SCAR 18 for around six months now, and I have zero issues with it. Performance is insane, doesn’t struggle with running any game at 60+ FPS, even in 4K on the big-screen. I just turn on any game and max out the graphics settings. I am very impressed with this laptop when it comes to gaming, and can’t wait to see what Asus will bring in the future with their next model

[@ytac3900]

it's perfect ..but expect the appearance

[@PlayGameToday]

I hope MSI didn't build the trash called "Nahimic" into the audio driver?

[@jackfox5738]

Nahimic really made the aound great with my bose QC II buds

[@PlayGameToday]

@@jackfox5738 no

[@coby96og]

@@micdawg12 how do you do that. MSI keeps going low and then high with the Audio

[@freaksdrivingschool3519]

The r23 benchmark seems very low, my MSI laptop has a i7 12800hx and it gets over 22k. 8p core-8e cores.

[@SubKiller]

What graphics card?

[@ramioma8933]

Nice laptop how much it cost?t

[@eloyhbermudez]

is faster than my desktop 3070ti which scores 22879 in firestrike edit: that result was with cpu turbo boost / HT off , with turbo / ht on i get 27846 with 37101 graphic score which still is slower than laptop 4090 , it sits between desktop 3070ti and 3080 , my cpu is a 10900k and it scores 30280 on the physics test which is slightly better

[@niebuhr6197]

You shouldnt use such an old benchmark to properly measure this thing. 4090m has been spotted scoring 22500 in time spy graphics, which is 3090ti performance or more than 14100 in port royal, which is faster than stock 3090

[@eloyhbermudez]

@@niebuhr6197 i used this benchmark because if you pay attention to the video he uses the same benchmark ,

[@psionx1]

my 12700k+3060 system isn't far behind yours with a firestrike score of 21497. the GPU has a 100Mhz OC on the memory and core and the CPU is limited to 120watts because the cooler is low profile. though despite losing in overall graphics score I get a nice 35173 in physics.

[@eloyhbermudez]

@@psionx1 12700k is a beast , i would love to swap to 12th or 13th gen but for that money i can rather upgrade gpu

[@psionx1]

@@eloyhbermudez after selling your current parts the jump to alder lake is about $60 so long as you avoid DDR5. where as a 4070 will cost you $250+. which will no doubt feel like a rip off when nvidia releases super cards.

[@IvanFoxDrift]

I hope that rtx don't burn over time

[@Filkinvitaliy]

мощный ноутбук 2 вентелятора это наверное маловато будет но 3 радиатор это конечно круто .

[@oyuntutkunuoyuncular]

bro i don't know a foreign language but smart touch was going to be added why not

[@captainmilenial5096]

Please review 2024 model

[@GenTechPC]

13th Gen and 14th Gen are identical except the CPU.

[@raminsn1234]

What do you recommend between msi vector gp78hx and asus rog strix g18?both are 13980hx and rtx 4070

[@georgeonderko5273]

Can we see the gigabyte 17x. To me the big competitor to this is the gigabyte 17x. It had the same specs, better cooling, windows hello, and is cheaper. The scar 18 lacks windows hello and rear connections. Ultimately for me it’s who is quieter at max load.

[@charlescarabott7692]

Never heard anyone complain about the GE78 cooling. And the Raider has brighter screen, and beats the 17X am( and even the scar 18) in all bench marks. And how the prices are now there not that great difference in price. And if you want a quiet laptop don't buy a gaming laptop. All gaming laptops will have fan noise at high loads

[@jimmorrison4ever529]

Just another comment by someone who wants everyone to regret their 4-thousand-dollar gaming laptop decision over the loudness of a fan while acting like they know what they're talking about because they play video games. Nothing to see here.

[@rept1le]

I don't like the design. It's too chunky and not really portable.

[@polanialmoni6274]

How is the display compared to the mini led of the Asus strix scar with the same gpu and cpu? I need color acurate screen, is no Gsync noticeable?

[@Kazy_RU]

I have bough a 78 model too, I jsut would like to know why did MSI cheap out and not put RGB under the space bar?

[@tengounaMSIRaiderconunartx4090]

Is cutre

[@mkbane1262]

Bro you have to these benchmark properly. Your timespy seems to be way off probably because u are not using the right configuration

[@GenTechPC]

It's out of the box score, early nVidia drivers cause it.

[@chamstrauss]

hello and thank you for your review. will there be a i7 13700hx, rtx 4080, 1200p screen version of this laptop?

[@GenTechPC]

Only i9-13980HX with RTX 4080.

[@chamstrauss]

@@GenTechPC can you please order some 13700hx 4080 1200p? i realy want this setup. 13700hx not getting 4080? why? im sure there will be a demand. its still a high end 8 p cores cpu

[@shimazu28]

What is the pound and what is the quarter

[@panathaninf]

Why all powerful gaming laptops have to look like a psychedelic mess?

[@Homelessgrunt]

For dudes like me who enjoy psychedelics (;

[@zenckers1981]

18.741 p in Time Spy Benchmark???? I HOPE THAT WAS WRONG...I want upgrade my Ge76 With I7 10850H and RTX 3080, and with OC can reach 12.890P, and othe Models like Asus Scar 18 2023 with the same components reach 21.000P in this Bench...Please, 18.741P not is too low???

[@GenTechPC]

It was BIOS issue at initial launch. When plugged in, it still work as it's on battery mode not plugged-in at full power, new BIOS 105 and above fixed it.

[@zenckers1981]

@@GenTechPC Thanks a lot! Sorry for my English, I'm from Spain. OK, and then, at the same price and same specs, I think that this model it's better tan Asus G18? From Gentech, wich model it's better? I always had MSI, from GT72 with a spectacular GTX 1070, and love the MSI BIOS. Only one thing, it's noticeable that MSI Ge78 don't have GSync? Tanks 👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@denzelbuka1019]

You left out gaming benchmarks. But why!?

[@GenTechPC]

3DMark will do.

[@denzelbuka1019]

@@GenTechPCThings like game benchmarks indicate Real World performance but it's your channel so whatever!

[@Nogardtist]

kinda unusual for a channel with unprofessional recording having high end device in their hands like that

[@GenTechPC]

We are not KZbinr, we are MSI authorized reseller. We are just showing unboxing and how laptop looks inside and out. If you are looking for fancy RGB studio, go some place else.

[@Nogardtist]

@@GenTechPC theres more production value and recording quality then fancy rgb If you want the channel to grow rapidly Changes must be made And i notice them as absolute low level beginner

[@alizafeer101]

The benchmark scores are way too low.

[@youxtubexisxgay]

Your hardware monitor app has a bug. The E cores can only go to 4ghz but everything says 5888 max. Also for those who don't know only two p cores can go to 5.6 if more than that are on they all go to 5.2.

[@surger132]

Was curious is anyone knows the length of cable from the power brick to the computer?

[@Tijgert]

Are those scores really that bad? The TongFang water cooled laptop scores 20.5K on air in Timespy and 21.5K on water. That is 16% better. MSI, what gives? Edit: is it in MSHybrid mode or Discrete GPU mode?

[@DEPEKTOP]

there's some kind of error in the tests or something is wrong with this laptop. for other bloggers, this laptop gives out much more in time spy

[@shanelynn4277]

Do the GE78 come with the "phase-changing" thermal pad on the CPU and GPU? Or it's just a regular thermal paste?

[@GenTechPC]

MSI don't use phase-changing metal pads on 13th gen anymore, just generic paste.

[@صبريحسان-خ2و]

Thanks

[@geoffreythompson2750]

I was curious if in the "Integrated Graphics Only" mode do any of the video output ports still function, and if so are they driven by the Intel GPU?

[@GenTechPC]

yes video output ports will still working and Intel GPU will be completely disabled.

[@solitarymassacre]

You mean iGPU? Like intel GPU only? I believe the HDMI port stops working, but one or maybe more of the USB-C DisplayPorts will continue to work. You may have to read the fine details in the specs.

[@yujigunev890]

only 16gb ram..is it enough?

[@GenTechPC]

It has 32GB of RAM.

[@DEPEKTOP]

MSI Raider GE78 HX 13VI please tell me, is the keyboard in this laptop mechanical or the same as in scar18?

[@GenTechPC]

The keyboard is not mechanical, nor is Scar 18.

[@DEPEKTOP]

@@GenTechPC MSI Raider GE78 (4090) or Asus Scar 18 (4090) . please tell me which laptop is better for a professional game in Apex legends?. Are there G-sync in these laptops? Which laptop did you like best ?

[@DEPEKTOP]

​@@GenTechPC Can you set any game to 240Hz ( lock maximum 230FPS ) and move the mouse sharply to the right or left. record video from your phone\camera in maximum slow motion. PLease)) it will take 2-4 minutes you time. In general, repeat something like what is recorded in this video. 1) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5jCdI2Qm9iop8U 2) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH7Fmmyjeth_hKs This is necessary in order to understand whether there are frame breaks in this laptop at such speeds. and how well the laptop display performs at 240 frames per second. How well does frame sync work here without G-sync

[@williamsburgIS]

@@DEPEKTOP Both are but i recommend going for ASUS

[@noutbuker]

@@DEPEKTOP In msi there is no r sync, only for an external monitor, asus has r sync, but asus suffer coil whine, you choose)

[@georgeonderko5273]

@gentech how do you pry off the back cover?

[@GenTechPC]

You need to pry off the hinge cover below the screen first.

[@georgeonderko5273]

Thanks. Lol. Every one of those side clips broke on removal. They don’t appear to be needed so that’s good.

[@georgeonderko5273]

Def not the most user friendly design.

[@maltorro2005]

Nice but far away too expensive.

[@Dekon7]

Are there any coil whines

[@GenTechPC]

No coil whines.

[@PlayGameToday]

What is the fashion, MSI, to make only one combo output for headphones and microphone instead of making two separate ones? Just because of that I won't upgrade my MSI GS9 (btw my laptop has 3 SSD slots!!)

[@ViciousXUSMC]

That is really common these days, because the most common thing to use is a headset that uses a combo jack. So for most people it would actually be worse to have the older style split (and it takes up more space) But! You are absolutely fine you can just get a 3.5mm TRRS to TRS break out cable and split it out yourself. Also most streamers these days seem to be using USB microphones, or USB audio interfaces.

[@PlayGameToday]

@@ViciousXUSMC I hate adapters and splitters, as well as combo jacks - they are a source of interference and signal degradation. I'm a streamer, but I use a Marshall XLR condenser microphone - what's wrong with me? I hate USB microphones.

[@ViciousXUSMC]

@@PlayGameToday I use a Shure SM7B with a Cloud Lifter to a Behringer X18, but at the end of the day my mixer is connected via USB. From actual electrical testing, a good splitter is not going to hurt your signal, nor is it large enough to pick up any EMI or other interference. (Same argument already won in RCA vs XLR for very high end audio pre-out setups) If your at this "level" of needs as far as performance, I can't see using any built in 3.5mm audio connection. Your arguing for quality and how adapters hurt the quality, and usb microphones are not good enough quality, then. Want to use built in sound cards on a laptop and expect quality? Those are in some of the highest interference and noise scenarios possible due to the close quarters with all the hardware. You should be looking at an audio interface if quality is what you demand. How exactly are you using your Marshall to a 3.5mm connection? IMO professional opinion you want a good digital interface with a clean pre-amp for anything serious. There is no way I would be using 3.5mm for my XLR microphone and having it go thru more analog conversion than necessary.

[@SaddestAsmrEnjoyer]

Someone knows were to buy one ?

[@GenTechPC]

We are MSI's authorized reseller in the US.

[@bk_panther_]

I thought the Titan was the higher model. Why does that one have a 4080 and this one the 4090?

[@samuelrblx2605]

There both High end. The titan Is only if you want an extreme desktop replacement

[@samuelrblx2605]

@elcactuar3354 no it’s there

[@samuelrblx2605]

@elcactuar3354 you fool You DIDNT even pass your English exam 💀💀 You can use there or They’re

[@samuelrblx2605]

@elcactuar3354 you failed English why are you even talking haha bozo

[@frankrandol85]

No lol

[@georgeonderko5273]

What model of ssd are they using. Would be fun to add a second for raid 0

[@GenTechPC]

They don't use same brand everytime.

[@gerardvopstal7547]

You out of focus meny times

[@0RIPPER0]

bruhhh !!! in Ryzen9 5900 hx laptop with 8 cores u can get around 14k score in cinebench R3 ... intel with 24 cores - 19.5k [-_-]

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

19-13980HX?

[@starsdestiny1356]

Gift this laptop to me

[@icetmzz9074]

damn thats bulky

[@VolgaYILMAZ]

Design, hinges and grills looks like shit. Previous version were better in design division.