MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace with Prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord: Prosecuting Donald Trump

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Join Nicolle Wallace, host of MSNBC’s Deadline: White House, with veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord on the unprecedented cases against former President Donald Trump - and their new MSNBC podcast, Prosecuting Donald Trump. Over the last several months, Americans have witnessed a dizzying series of historic court cases - a former US president indicted twice - and ongoing investigations suggesting more indictments are possible. How are we to make sense of the details and the scope of these cases? What happens when the Republican presidential front runner has been indicted for obstruction of justice? And how do prosecutors build a legal case when the defendant is a former president?
Weissmann was one of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s top deputies who oversaw the team handling Trump’s corrupt former campaign chairman Paul Manafort and McCord was the Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security at DOJ. The two will join Wallace as they break down the cases, offering a clear-eyed analysis on the scope of potential criminality, what its means for American democracy, and much more.
MSNBC’s Prosecuting Donald Trump is a weekly podcast that dissects the cases against former President Donald Trump with in-depth analysis, special guests and listener questions.
This program is part of 92NY Recanati-Kaplan Talks. Newmark Civic Life Series is generously supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies.
Recorded September 13, 2023 at The 92nd Street Y, New York.
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[@TamarLitvot]

Two of the best and smartest people about trump's criminal activity. And Nicolle Wallace did an excellent job, as she usually does, of interviewing them. As an American, I'm proud that people like Andrew Weissman and Mary McCord were officials in our government.

[@patj4952]

As a huge fan of Nicolle Wallace, Deadline White House, Andrew Weissman, and Mary McCord, this was a real treat. Thank you all for continuing to educate, inform, and enlighten.

[@JoePalau]

Huge fan of intelligent, grace and wit. I am a huge fan of civility - the norms and values embedded in and required the Constitution and the institutions of federal governance it spawned. Yes, I once took all this for granted and believed all this was definitional of what it is to be American of any political party or persuasion. But no longer. These three in conversation bring back those lost assurances and leave me with a glimmer of hope we, as a nation, can endure as a constitutional democracy. Nothing is certain or written in stone on how we will be able to move forward as a nation w/o an eye toward the ideals signed into law Sept 1787. Thank for reminding me of the promise of our once bright citadel on a hill. My sincerest hope is we wake up and return to responsible adulthood as a nation. 🙏🙏🙏

[@patj4952]

@@JoePalau Beautifully stated Joe. Your post gives me hope that things will be okay and that we must never, ever take anything for granted. Democracy like so many things in life is worth fighting for.

[@margarettreanor4246]

Educate, inform, enlighten LOL LOL ROTFL LMAO'

[@user-zf9or1bl3i]

You listen to her and your conscience will be lost for eternity.

[@andrewalbers8293]

RIght there with you.

[@61bullet43]

Nicole Wallace. Beautiful brain. Sweet delivery. Unafraid to express her emotions, never pandering, always honest. She earned her two hours weekdays. ❤️

[@TerryParsons1724]

I love Nicole Wallace such an amazing lady. Mary and Andrew are top notch legal experts. so happy I found this video. ❤

[@macswanton9622]

Nicolle and Rachel are my favorite humans. The sine qua non of my existence, here, in the tremulous twenties

[@frederickrapp5396]

I just wish that Mike Schmidt would smile at his wife instead of scowling at her all the time, whenever he’s on her show.

[@bigbrotherisasob]

Wallace is TERRIBLE

[@TamarLitvot]

@@frederickrapp5396 I had no idea he was her husband. He's okay but she's far better than he is.

[@dorisbelleisle646]

I’m so happy to listen to these informed people. Wish this could go on for longer. Thanks to all. This is appreciated by an older woman grasping to hold onto her sense of humor.

[@patrickhinh]

This is how journalists should be . Unlike screaming folks at Fox News and CNN

[@teresalegler2777]

There is no comparison.

[@petes9524]

​@@teresalegler2777yep, between Fox" News" and CNN. It's called false equivalency.

[@tkenglander6226]

I haven't heard any screaming journalists at CNN. Ever. Just saying ... 🙂

[@valueofnothing2487]

Absolutely not. The only thing they should be doing is giving us facts, not unfounded accusations, allegations and opinion. The FBI admitted to using an unverified Steel report for surveillance on Carter Page, even though he was an asset. Mueller said that was not enough evidence to indict Trump. The obstruction was an obstruction to an unindictable case. So how can she just say that 'there was collusion'?

[@janetives5470]

This is a different format.

[@charlottetracy3970]

Fabulous! Andrew and Mary are two of the handful of American patriots that are working all day, every day to save our democracy from the actual forces of evil intent to destroy our way of life and they deserve our sustained and humble thanks for what they do now and have been doing their entire careers, Hooray for us that we have them!!!

[@debhousman22]

Nicole Wallace is my absolute favorite when it comes to news! 💜

[@janetives5470]

Nicole has knowledge, experience, insight, and is very smart.

[@janetives5470]

She also has a way with words.

[@DRobb-zi2rj]

🇺🇸🇺🇸 How special is this podcast! Love Nicolle Wallace, Andrew Weissmann & Mary McCord! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 More please!

[@marcytamayei5908]

Yes!!!

[@danielthomson5188]

Agreed, why doesn't Nicolle Wallace have an hour long show where she can investigate a topic in depth?

[@dorisbelleisle646]

Yes

[@jo-annerichardson34]

What a treat. I watch these three everyday. Wonderful show, Nicole, Mary and Andrew. Civil and respectful conversation on extremely important issues. ☺❤💙💙

[@donpardee6041]

The three of you deserve an Emmy for this podcast. Thank you! Don Pardee ~ Milwaukee, WI

[@judimarcin6591]

As your 🇨🇦democratic neighbour , listening to intelligent , rational experts gives me some hope that 🇺🇸can be saved from a tragic demise orchestrated by corrupt “GQP” and criminal Pres candidate (!!??) Trump

[@TamarLitvot]

Thank you. We love you and envy you your health system and your smaller percentage of crazy extremists. And your great courtesy!

[@teresalegler2777]

We American agree with your analogy.

[@daniellemiele197]

Canadian neighbour too from Montréal Canada 🇨🇦 I, so, agree with you. I’ve been glued to American news 7 years now. I hope Biden wins with a gigantic margin! Hope the TFG (I can’t say his name) ends up guilty of all charges and will have the consequences of a criminal that he is.

[@arlenewipfler5475]

Thank you. Canada is the best ally we have.

[@janetives5470]

Absolutely. No better ally the Canada, a great ally.

[@mattthalacker4787]

A must watch for our country. Thanks to all!

[@mariaying4761]

And for us in Europe ❤

[@CarolynSchofield-hg6mw]

And for us in Australia

[@irenejordan7012]

And from us in scotland🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@marcomobson]

​@@irenejordan7012We Europeans do see you as part of us! 😉🤗

[@jimmyandlindamagner6716]

Three of the best! Thank you so much for this forum. So well done!

[@bigbrotherisasob]

Total hacks.

[@B_Bodziak]

​@@bigbrotherisasob Wow. Your feels are still hurting from your 2020 loss.

[@marcomobson]

​@@bigbrotherisasobStop supporting the orange criminal and you wouldn't bebsuch butthurt anymore...!

[@garrysinclair9767]

From Indonesia now, Australia before, I thank you Nicole, Andrew and Mary for a most illuminating journey through this most disturbing episode in your country's history. I shook my head in bemusement in our local Bellambi pub with mates in 2015 as I watched the election unfold and saw Trump win. I had declared to Rob and Rich before the count unfolded that Trump had no chance of winning. I saw him then and see him still as nothing more than a glib conman with a puddle's depth of morality. I vehemently declared that no country could ever allow such a person to become its leader. I got that wrong. Not only for your country's sake but also for our world's sake I fervently hope that he is not elected again. America has such an important role in our world. His re-election would be a disaster not only for you Americans but also for we non-Americans. Biden's age versus Trump's insanity (that chosen without hyperbole) - is there really a choice?

[@alicecrystalpalace]

From Ireland... I could not possibly agree more. 💙☘

[@fairyprincess911]

Biden has accomplished so much more in his term thus far than many men half his age. I’m not worried about Biden’s age.🙌🏽

[@coreyham3753]

Biden''s age is not much different than Chump's age. So how is that even a relevant factor in comparing the two of them?

[@valueofnothing2487]

"Illuminating journey"? No, you need facts, not unproven allegations. These 'reporters' are too uncomfortable. And while Weissmann is a good lawyer, you have to pay him a lot to get a good case out of him.

[@garrysinclair9767]

@@valueofnothing2487 I would have thought that the attack on your Capitol was sufficient fact and indeed beyond allegation, a lack of a court decision notwithstanding.

[@twodonks]

Excellent and very important discussion! Thanks, Nicole, Andrew, and Mary.

[@ronward3949]

Trump Moscow not in the cards?

[@kdgckg]

We also have a Senator blocking armed forces readiness… A house majority doing all it can to undermine the sitting president…

[@TamarLitvot]

Sadly true.

[@louannkyle602]

Here is what I fear there are conservative organizations who have come up with a plan called project 25 where they want to be able to fire veteran federal employees and replace them with loyalists that will only answer to the president those veteran employees are what people call the deep state they are the glue that holds this country together politicians come and go but those people are the government that keep everything firmly under the constitution, those holds by Tuberville I believe are for them to do the same with the military putting loyalists at the highest levels I think people are missing this and it’s darned scary I

[@robertlee8805]

It's just like Michael Flynn did/doing and the Freedom Caucus crew. Who in the world votes for people that wants to dismantle our democracy? Who are they actually working for? Our Adversaries? Putin? Xi?

[@suzymagan7575]

Thank you ALL. This was great. It's so refreshing to hear truth spoken. It makes me feel better to know there are still people in our realm who believe in doing what is right for us all.

[@Thadmotor1044]

When Nicole Wallace turned away from her party , I knew we would turn it around . What a great journalist and Patriot . Andrew and Mary are Topps .

[@foodmomcoe6477]

Excellent discussion on such serious developments in our country.

[@damianwhite9304]

A truly remarkable and intelligent hour with incredibly informed panellists.

[@michaelgover9206]

GREAT, GREAT SHOW 😊. Gives me Hope!

[@Oysterfeather]

The three of you discuss complex issues as friends adn with an ease which makes these very serious, historic, issues, and concerns facing this country ,easily understandable. I thank you.

[@jacquelineleitch7050]

I was a little sad that some of the intricacies of the discussions about stories of dealing with people in the Whitehouse was cut short.

[@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm]

We are on the brink of the cliff simular to just before Hitler came to power and the German public like this one didn't see it coming, near complete complacency.

[@alexanderbrown4250]

We are living in the Weimar (sp?) early 1930 s. I just finished binge watching the Handmaid Tale. This is Giliad😮

[@janetkriegl6720]

Not quite. At most, 30% of Repub. voters categorize as MAGA cult members. The rest of US voting population have a grasp of our crucial turning point. The greatest concerns are the domestic terrorists' threat of intimidation and violence toward potential jurors and witnesses. Craven Repub. politicians and voters may crater to the minority out of fear. But there are enough Dems, Independents, Never Trumpers, and party 'swing ' voters, to prevent the catastrophic future of a repeat traitorous president. Most importantly is the power that knowledge of facts provides our citizens.

[@marcomobson]

I said similiar things since I heard Dump's disgusting stupid speeches for the first time. It's all out of Hitler's and Goebbel's fascist playbook... Greetings from Germany

[@dianesicgala4310]

Hitler reminds me of a blonde Hitler. A very dangerous man.

[@teresakresge9498]

GREAT SHOW!!! BRAVO

[@equusasinus]

This was a really great insight into the legal issues and an excellent exposé of the corruption at the heart of US democracy. Similar problems exist in post-Brexit UK government but nobody has even begun to address them, nor address the Russian and Chinese interference in UK politics. Things are worrying in the USA, but at least there are intelligent people in the justice system trying to address the threats to the constitution.

[@TamarLitvot]

We often look to the UK for a better way to do things so this is surprising to me.

[@hambogumble4123]

The UK as you knew it is no more. Idiocy and mendacity are at the levers of power. For now…

[@sandrarobinson7724]

Our justice system has been corrupted, especially at the Supreme Court level. We are attacked throughout our government system. It is up to each of us to save our Republic.

[@mitchellschulman9229]

Impressive and encouraging - Thank you all!

[@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm]

It's embarrassing to call him the leader of the free world.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Leading the free world into dictatorship.

[@mariaying4761]

He is not. Vote blue

[@sybilannwilliams1205]

Great and very informative discussion and commentary!

[@tammyburke9453]

Excellent podcast Thank U ❤

[@ronschroeder4817]

BRILLIANT! Nicolle is a great reminder of what we can be as a country as opposed to where are now with the current GOP.

[@teacher01ful]

Thank you Andrew, Mary and Nicole. Justice Defenders!

[@lillyfitzgerald4047]

Loved this. Thank you to all three of you.

[@carolkar5687]

found this livestream by chance....thanks

[@judithlopez3038]

Excellent discussion. So glad I stopped to watch and listen.

[@kazhb2926]

Great show. Love them all❤

[@gordonbesancon709]

the people who put the addresses of officials on the internet should get 25 years in jail with no exception.

[@jenbloom6848]

Nicole Wallace is one of the most capable, insightful, and thoughtful interviewers out there. I love her humanity and compassion. Andrew Weismann and Mary McCord have been absolutely vital to this era of indictments. Their experience is indispensable.

[@wendyhumphreystebbutt5782]

Brilliant!! Thank you, all for your clarity, philosophy and your service. Yours in Gratitude

[@marilynrowland5197]

Wow! What an hour this was! We learned a lot! Thank you to everyone who worked to make this possible!

[@taloowa5800]

As much as I enjoy watching this crew on TV, this presentation is so much better because we get to see them in long form.

[@producer2123]

Kudos to your engineer. Great sound on the voices. It makes the excellent discussion easier to listen to.

[@robynkitteltyredman1113]

Nicole….you are awesome. Fabulous guests and clear discussion. Love from Australia.🩷

[@kimeppenstiner404]

Excellent! Everyone should watch this😊

[@pamlooman8045]

Thank you Andrew, Mary and Nicolle…

[@doreensmith6243]

Love this discussion❤

[@Johnwilliams15367]

hey there I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hear back from you!

[@kathykimes5724]

Outstanding program very interesting and informative!

[@treycarmichael3605]

Nicolle would be a very interesting nominee for president. A former conservative strategist who is reasonable rational and all-american in almost every regard. Smart, empathetic, and i suspect, very much a tough fighter for what is actually right on earth 1. Someone in the chat comments suggested she run. I can get behind that.

[@bamboozled1668]

With either Michael Steele or Rick Wilson as VP

[@Booker830]

Yes Steele.!

[@patj4952]

I second that. Nicolle is a real fighter for truth, justice, the rule of law with principals and integrity. She is warm, puts her guests at ease, but does not suffer fools. I never miss her show. She has all the qualities of a great leader.

[@mounteverest96]

​@@patj4952I love the way she says "no ones going anywhere"

[@user-wh6ot8pg1v]

Wonderful interview!

[@RosemaryWyman]

This was a great mashup. I learn so much from the PDT podcast and really appreciated Nicole's facilitation here. Also think it's a great idea to do more of these in live settings. More opportunities to open minds and inform below the surface of daily media content. Thank you!

[@DancingAngel2011]

Love this dialogue! Thank you 💕 😊! For anyone who ever operated under the notion 45 could be "controlled" - serious self reflection is required.

[@TheMg49]

Great conversation. Thanks and thumbs up.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Great podcast! Wonderful to hear from Mary and Andrew in a long-form podcast instead of 5 minute segments about the daily outrage on MSNBC .

[@LouieSapcote-vy5xl]

Big Nicolle fan .

[@artifications1444]

This was super exciting and intelligent. I appreciate the speakers and the host 92Y for making this production possible.

[@jayneberkley9742]

This was brilliant really enjoyed, always watch Nicole 💙🥰👏👍

[@beverlywatson885]

Thank you for a great discussion- would be great if Republicans could listen and learn

[@robertlee8805]

Theyre (Republicans) have probably learning what not to do or subvert their voters.

[@tonytolbert6050]

And why are the people they speak of not in freaking jail?

[@gustavderkits8433]

Thank you to the 92nd street Y for this outstanding interview

[@louisdale7115]

Very Very Good.

[@annielindt6245]

FANTASTIC! Thank you all! Nicole, Mary and Andrew- what a wonderful and informative discussion.

[@jostrong2385]

As many of the comments I have read state: Thank you and how refreshing! Keep it up.

[@maurachapman4179]

Alarm bells should be bleating!

[@KenFerguson]

I now have more clarity on Mary’s role regarding the trump administration. Well done to all!

[@cheriewolfsen2491]

Thank You for this Brilliant Discussion!

[@stephengneri2136]

Please dont ever let Nicole's articulate abilities scare you. She is amazing.

[@mirawinograd7721]

This is fantastic

[@lisarekstad3433]

Excellent interview!

[@veramentegina]

this is one of the best conversations I have watched in a long time.. What a gem!! I love love Nicole, Andrew and Mary.. Thank you for the best KZbin viewing.

[@barbaragare9518]

what a fabulous conversation - thank you so much

[@rickstacy384]

Awesome job Nicole. Thanks for all your hard work and I think your the best ❤😊

[@sosueme66]

Thank you for posting!

[@FlashAnimator]

Why wouldn't a convicted felon lose his right to have armed bodyguards while he pays his debt to society?

[@leafuller3153]

Very smart people !

[@32582657]

Very special podcast/interview/video, as many others point out. Among many other aspects, very interesting to hear more of the back story on Flynn.

[@sandymittelstet137]

Such an important presentation by three of my most valued political experts. Thank you for being committed to sharing truth and to the importance of the rule of law. You are modern day heroes.

[@robertlee8805]

Weissman and McCord are not political but they DO CARE ABOUT Our Country.

[@richardgearhart1286]

Great show!! You guys could have gone on for many more hours. All of America should have watched this show.

[@deborahlukovich8006]

This is fantastic.

[@ericaclark-rossam7588]

You are delightful Nicolle and wonderfully sharp in your insights. May you prosper.

[@seanwilson6521]

Well, the people who need to see this didn't make it to the end

[@teresalegler2777]

Probably didn’t tune in at all.

[@BonafideGail]

Outstanding group!

[@justus5710]

Excellent discussion. Thank you!

[@lesleyghostdragon3149]

Trio of most charming, brilliant people discuss least charming. malign actors. Thank you for this 🙏

[@ronbozoid]

Why don't we drop an Apple Air Tag into Trump's pocket, send him to negotiate peace with Putin (he says would take him only 24 hours), and when his Tag stops moving, send a cruise missile to that GPS location and solve 2 problems at one time!

[@jabbalechat7910]

Thanks for an excellent informative podcast...

[@RobHalliganProjects]

When Andrew Weissman and Mary McCord started appearing on MSNBC, I thought, "You spent the first half of your career in government service. You can now make very good money. We probably won't be seeing too much of you on TV." I'm pleased to be wrong about that.

[@alicecrystalpalace]

Wonderful show! 💙💖❤☘ Lovely to see Mary smile! She doesn't do that often when she's on the news. 😊 Thank you!!! ❤

[@steveh6612]

And I love listening to all 3 of you

[@tomnohmy1273]

U ever notice, Trump supporters look and act nothing like this.

[@Fred.pSonic]

Intelligent conversation, no LOUD in-yer-face YELLING, no interrupting, no chanting, no threats, no leaning on the bible, no fake flag sentiment, no BS. Yes it's quite refreshing.

[@debhousman22]

Truth 👍🏽

[@angela799]

Nicole Wallace sets an example many journalists should follow.

[@DeborahGee]

Thanks to all of you for a stimulating and hearty discussion. Breaking it down was worthwhile. I guess there is no way Judge Aileen Cannon has to remove herself even though she has a conflict of interest in this case? It seems as though she should have to be removed for obvious reasons.

[@kathyaschenbach8081]

Love this! So awesome. Such a scary time and this helps so much. I cant seem to get enouph of it. Without I would be I dont know I guess I would beabasket case. Thank you all somuch for what you do

[@gailwood2734]

I know I’m watching this late, but I am always so impressed at the 3 people on this stage. So intelligent, and so interesting and so relateable. Thank you for your information and insight 💙🇺🇸

[@darrenjm-d1739]

thank you for putting these talks out here for EVERYONE hopefully that includes the supreme court justices and governmental officials whom only really get snippets of what actually happens behind closed doors of committee groups and interdepartmental function and expectations and the rule of law in processing intelligence counterintel and moral rationale. keeping the world together where our foes invest to pull us apart and create pain globally for our allies. blessings love and light keep safe. long live democracy and justice for all.

[@cathydondanville7863]

Nice to see you three roaming freely among the citizenry.

[@hazellove2144]

Thank you. Answered many questions for me.

[@elizabethprusha4176]

This is an excellent podcast. So necessary for us as Americans to understand

[@StressRUs]

And, so, the insurrection just roles on and our nation continues to wait, wait, wait for justice to raise Her once proud head and the sword in it.

[@Wo0ody]

@The Y This one was just great, altho the Bronx cheers around 40 and 50 minutes were significantly louder in my study than at the 92nd Street Y. Many Thanks, Wo0dy

[@deborahrobertson4670]

I attend the Nicole Wallace Law School❤

[@alysononoahu8702]

I'm in my final semester

[@catherinekasmer9905]

This Russia stuff is scaring me.

[@TamarLitvot]

Which shows that you are a sane human being.

[@teresalegler2777]

It’s been scaring me for years.

[@arlenewipfler5475]

It should scare ALL of us.

[@alaine57]

It scares this Canadian. I’ve been paying attention since the well know criminal got voted in.