The Weirdest Cheated Speedrun World Record

[@qanzii5949]

This is so funny to me, I just can't imagine being a mod, watching this run, hearing fucking ram ranch throughout and having to seriously verify it

[@sadbanana5896]

M to mute

[@sentricsmemebank2684]

"Boss, we can't completely verify the run.." "Why not?" "18 naked cowboys at ram ranch.."

[@Trimint123]

Well, they could just mute the video and focused on the footage than the music.

[@hypnotoad28]

The Ram Ranch thing alone makes this video worth watching, lmfao. Dude's content is pretty damn good though, definitely on an upward trajectory

[@No-uc6fg]

25 US MARINES

[@DanatronOne]

"Remember how there was a giant green bird?" How could I forget

[@ShiningDarknes]

Completely slipped my mind

[@wildfire088]

Bruh when i read this, he said it

[@matthewjagos9328]

@@wildfire088 same

[@Succui]

It was literally still on screen lmao. I looked down at it and went “mhm.. bird..”. I love returning to this video lol

[@ThePenguinMan]

*_DUOLINGO INTENSIFIES_*

[@camwoodstock]

"Just for the record, 2 berries is not a category speedrunners run." Give it a few weeks

[@jaxblonk5127]

They had 2 huge berries if nothing else.

[@ziwuri]

Well, the current any% WR collects not 2, but 3 berries :D

[@No-yn3jo]

:D@@ziwuri

[@Supagodsaiyan]

its called any% because they have to beat the game with any amount of game percentage

[@paulimriss]

maybe 0 berries should be a category

[@bobwilson00]

mans played ram ranch with a giant bird blocking the screen and no game audio, and tried to pass it off as a wr. That seems more like a joke than a legitimate cheating attempt

[@Graknorke]

My guess is an attempt to get the rules changed by making something that obviously breaks what should be rules but aren't. He even called attention to the berries thing in the title and by going out of his way to collect a berry that's otherwise not easy to just run into accidentally.

[@cf0e3]

The bird part is understandable. If I remember correctly Archie the bird belongs to someone who invented a new technique that consist of entering a green bubble in crouched position to keep the crouched hitbox while in the bubble. This allows you to go through tighter spaces. They named the technique after the bird for some reason.

[@Lmjacks]

@@cf0e3 archie is the bird of one of phoenix’s good friends. and phoenix was actually the person who discovered the strat you mention, also choosing to name it after the bird

[@mm-bw2bf]

The best part is that it somewhat worked

[@zanthor5422]

@@Graknorke Exactly. It's really obvious that this run existed to push new rules, especially considering the fact that Phoenix doesn't really participate actively in the community and very clearly doesn't care about his leaderboard placement on SRC.

[@Extrinoo]

I bet phoenix was like "imma fake a speedrun and add these sketch signs so they know its fake" Speedrun Lbs: Its verified Phoenix: wait wh-

[@fracazer]

Lmao

[@NorielBenMiel]

*Task Successfully Failed*

[@chrismanuel9768]

He purposely sent the run in through backdoors, using one of his mod friends to get it verified instantly without anyone actually verifying it. He knew what he was doing. It's not the mods' fault, except for the one that was his friend he used to push his run through. I hope that mod got removed.

[@pikenote]

@@chrismanuel9768 We dont know his true intentions as stated that he sent a unedited version of the run through DMs to a mod. Did he expect them to verify it? Perhaps not. The run would've been super obvious for it to be spliced and was caught within 30 minutes. I dont think they cared. They would've put much more effort to hide the fact it was spliced rather than leaving clear signs there.

[@C1azed]

@@chrismanuel9768 if you have ever listened to ram ranch then you know this was a troll on people who take speedruning to seriously, the mod was probaly in on this and knew the run would not stay up but put it up for headlines

[@spaghettioverlord3247]

he called it “two berries” and the berries are what gave him away. Obviously this was intentional.

[@youreagirl.2028]

Yep

[@glumbortango7182]

Part of me wishes "two berries" became a category for people to just make the weirdest speedruns possible

[@juandedomenico4306]

@@glumbortango7182 twoberries %

[@idkwew3023]

@@glumbortango7182 I'm going to start speedrunning random other games and call them twoberries%

[@originalname5598]

@@idkwew3023 play breath of the wild and do getlaid% that's the weirdest category

[@therockinggoomba]

Imagine killing somebody and then when the police come by, you cover the bloody corpse with a PNG of a bird

[@pancracio1710]

Flawless plan. I wouldnt even think to check behind the bird png for bodies.

[@JukoYT]

I havent watched the entire video and i am wondering wtf is this comment lol

[@connorconnor2421]

rip archie

[@Tinlion09]

Screaming _"RAM RANCH REALLY ROCKS"_ as the cops beat you to the ground and cuff you

[@orvilleredenpiller338]

🎶🎵You may saaaaaay I’m a dreameeer, but I’m not the only oooooone... 🎵🎶

[@OmarTarekPianist]

This was just like a slap in the face to the mod team of Celeste. The music, the bird, the title. At the end it is more embarrassing for the mods than for the runner themselves...I mean, they verified it at first hahaha

[@userofusername4981]

Then they ban him for half a year

[@Barondelculo]

it was a massive shitpost lol, the name he gave the speedrun gave him away.

[@aaronking2020]

@@userofusername4981 mods had no balls phoenix is a chad

[@frankvonfrauner]

@@userofusername4981 That's how you can tell the difference between someone who is modding because they care about a community, and someone who wants the power. Someone who actually cares would be thankful for the audit.

[@kkTeaz]

​​@@userofusername4981 then he speedruns it and gets a better time, which is completely legitimate and doesn't submit it after the half a year passes cuz he doesn't care.

[@paradoxicaloutcome1007]

- Timer turned off - In-game audio muted, 28 minutes of Ram Ranch instead - VERY eye-drawing PNG of a bird blocking the save icon - Went out of his way to not collect the speedrun-required berry and instead collect a different berry, named the file 2_berries to draw attention to the berries themselves - Had never submitted a run before, hasn't submitted a run since, despite his legitimate runs being quite good The idea that people even believe this guy was actually seriously trying to get away with this is laughable. He probably pulled this shit just to point out the rules that he thought were too lenient, which they were, absolutely. Seriously, blocking the save icon, turning off the in-game audio and turning off the timer weren't things that were ruled out?! A person that wasn't pointing a neon sign at themselves could've easily annihilated the leaderboard without issue under these rules. The fact that this meme run wasn't technically breaking the rules should've been an embarrassment for the mods.

[@positivereinforcement5894]

This argument has a lot of merit and I'm not gonna say you're wrong but I would like to correct one thing, he did submit previous runs he just deleted them regularly to the point where one wasn't on the leaderboard by the time he submitted the wr one

[@loganxavier]

You articulated this perfectly in text, thank you

[@FoxHoundUnit89]

@@positivereinforcement5894 that just makes it sound even more like he was just trolling. Is there some rule that prohibits moderators/judges from just banning people who are clearly just being an idiot on purpose?

[@optidalfprime3904]

@@FoxHoundUnit89 Of course there is. If there wasn't then mods would ban each other left and right

[@tristankendrick2582]

Just a tiny touch of editing would've made this run look 100% legitimate, you'd just have to mess with the berry counter at the end and add the save icon when necessary

[@WannabeMarysue]

ram ranch is the ONLY song for Celeste world records

[@eenriquee]

I see this comment and I don't know what to expect from this video

[@Avriel_Mimiga]

18 Strawberries in the showers at Ram Ranch

[@shadowknight7584]

Haha

[@benlange279]

I need to see this speedrun. Watching 27 mins and 43 seconds of Celeste gameplay overlayed with Ram Ranch. It's a must watch

[@cyn7261]

Is your Twitter ironic

[@SimpleFlips]

EIGHTEEN NAKED COWBOYS WORLD RECORD LETS GOOOO

[@Snookbone]

Hey Shoutouts

[@richarde98]

Hottest and fastest speedrun in the west!

[@TrainerPlatinumSinnoh]

ya love to see it

[@JamesBCrazy]

Shoutouts

[@undergamer6143]

holy shit it's simpleflips

[@AlexMcMund]

I can't believe such a suspicions speedrun with a pretty clear splice was verified. Maybe it was more of a commentary on how painfully lax the rules were

[@conwaysquest6961]

Yeah.

[@DreadKyller]

I believe he was friends with one of the mods, who likely had a large hand in getting it verified.

[@sparkypikachu7776]

@@DreadKyller that's...also really bad 💀

[@ShaggyRogers1]

@@sparkypikachu7776 It isn't even needed most of the time. The initial verification for the website is easy enough to get through, moderators don't know the ins and outs of EVERY game and it isn't like they are even paid to scrutinize every detail. The big thing is that the "verification" means that video proof is required, which the community can then self police. The community can usually do a decent job of spotting fakes on their own, and it isn't like cheating speedruns hasn't been done since Billy Mitchel in the 80's...

[@steelajax7925]

​@@ShaggyRogers1Hi, this is Billy Mitchell's legal counsel. Please delete or edit this slanderous comment immediately or you will be sued for defamation

[@agisuru]

If it weren't faked, blasting Ram Ranch over your world record speedrun would be a hell of a power move

[@Jamer508]

Considering the Ram ranch song and the intentional obstructions of areas of the screen that previously should have been verified I feel like Pheonix4k was intentionally harrassing the speed running community in order to enforce what he thought was effective rules. The mistake with the berries and the loading icon and the sound all add up to someone who was disgruntled about previous speed runs not having enough scrutiny.

[@seiggrainhart4719]

It would certainly explain why he hasn't posted the legit run to the community as well. Almost as if he's saying to himself. "Alright, jobs done, time to move on."

[@priestoffern1608]

Or the fact that the speedrun is called "2 berries", even though there weren't 2 berries

[@harrisonbaguley5691]

@@priestoffern1608 no, there were two berries. he collected two berries in the actual run; one in chap 3 and the 'extra' one in summit. the one he collects earlier in summit in the video isn't included in the total because he spliced it

[@EXRDaBeasta]

He is too good. After the ram ranch and then setting the legit WR by a second shortly after, I think his job here is done.

[@codegeek98]

Genius

[@ramanand5187]

"I get dirty, so the world becomes clean" If the guy indeed had the intention to expose how bad the speedrun checks are, then props to him

[@JetstreamSam343]

They called him a madman

[@fie4426]

Someone did something like that with golden eye 64

[@foamed7025]

lelouch... is that u?

[@Quenlin]

"I shoot puppies to show that shooting puppies is wrong!" - Psychopath who killed a bunch of puppies.

[@MarioLuigi0404]

@@Quenlin acting as if these are at all comparable situations is kinda insane dude A fake speed run is a shitty thing to do but at the end of the day it doesn’t bring direct physical harm to anyone, especially when it’s caught and the leaderboards are cleaned.

[@halestar2967]

Really surprised the investigation didn’t point out the ram ranch usage as evidence. A common way to detect splices (originally coined in SM64 iirc) is to check the audio for cuts, something that’s hard to do without specialized software. Muting the game audio and placing ram ranch over it would make the audio smooth and thus make splices harder to track.

[@gmalamat1393]

Well that's why it's theorized the Speedrun was just a massive shitpost with no actual intent to get to the leaderboard, because hiding the audio had been allowed up to that point

[@testerwulf3357]

@@gmalamat1393 Yea the goal was probably to change the rules because how they were made faking a run SUPER easy.

[@JaggerG]

Lack of audio is not evidence. It’s highly suspicious, but doesn’t prove anything.

[@livin4thelamb499]

That's what I said!

[@jakemartinez6894]

⁠@@JaggerG It is evidence, that’s exactly what circumstantial evidence is. Even if you have suspicious red stains and dna on clothes you get caught trying to burn it technically doesn’t prove anything. An undisputedly foul-played person in the trunk of your car… still circumstantial. The popular tv or KZbin commenter line is “but all the evidence is circumstantial”… even though I’d wager that maybe even over half of convictions for things like murder are done with any non-circumstantial evidence. For something to be non-circumstantial, it has to have no other possible explanation, however unlikely, assuming that the evidence is legitimate; such as a video of someone clearly committing the crime. Pretty much anything you can think of is just some level of suggestion… and that’s alright.

[@prycenewberg3976]

I don't think he cares about "his career as a Celeste speedrunner."

[@Poop-nu1so]

This^

[@sophialong7669]

No one should

[@annigram]

As a wise man once said: LONG LIVE ARCHIE

[@leavemealoneplease583]

*Anarchy

[@tropical64_xd88]

Whats his name?

[@puckqure1192]

A wise man once said dying is gay

[@owens_demos]

@@leavemealoneplease583 no it’s Archie

[@eurasian8492]

Archie the archasaour

[@Ivytheherbert]

I like how the one berry that proved the splicing was one that would never be collected during a speedrun, and it was the only berry that had been collected during Summit. Almost like he planned the spliced run to avoid every berry except that one hidden berry just as a "fuck you" to the mods.

[@Helperbot-2000]

mans a gigatroll lmao

[@JetstreamSam343]

My man's a gigachad of a troll

[@bolson42]

@@JetstreamSam343 same joke but worse

[@daylawashere]

this is my man, and he is a gigantic chad of a troller

[@bolson42]

@@daylawashere This man is mine, and he can be considered a comically large, conventionally masculine person who likes to engage in tomfoolery

[@OmoiSenpai]

Feels like he was just trolling to have rules be applied. Maybe he tried talking about it, but nobody took action on it. Just my guess.

[@Ghosted_31]

That's what I think too

[@Rob-sf4xy]

He did called it a 2 berries speedrun and that is how he cheated, so what you are saying is not far fetched.

[@xbaneet3969]

@@Rob-sf4xy oh shit hes 100 parallel universes ahead of us

[@HFTVChannel]

Sounds overly convenient, not impossible, but yeah

[@Wildstag]

Maybe it was just an out of season April Fool's joke.

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

If anything, phoenix is a legend for a making clowns out of the celeste leaderboard. These rules should have already been in place and enforced lmao

[@chronovac]

My man potentially sacrificed his integrity as a speedrunner to shitpost. What a fucking legend

[@Marcel1298-p9f]

I mean he put up a SUPER fake run with clues in its Titel just to force some new rules into the world.....he even got a lwgit speedrun later on! This guy is a legend no question asked

[@hariman7727]

Legend... Fool... Not sure which.

[@eaghan]

@@Marcel1298-p9f yeah no way he actually cares about having a legit run, just listen to the music pick lol

[@SweetMargonade]

@@hariman7727 why not both? The true question is, is he a foolish legend or a legendary fool?

[@panampace]

@@SweetMargonade like Leroy Jenkins

[@ggtylerr]

>"The audio was completely muted..." >Okay, that's a bit odd... >"...and in its place was a variety of of Grant McDonald's 'Ram Ranch' music." >PFFFFFFFFFFFTTTT Okay, please tell me there's an archive to this run. I really want to watch a celeste speedrun while having to listen to Ram Ranch for 28 minutes.

[@MisterBones2910]

I want to see it too, but it looks like no one mirrored it before it got deleted; at least not that I can find.

[@MisterBones2910]

@ElyC West Collected before deletion I'd imagine. Small community, this guy probably began work on it immediately after the situation had come to a resolution.

[@Vassilinia]

Aaaaaa I need to see this run.

[@DamageMaximo]

pffffffffffffffft edit: pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

[@SemiHypercube]

9:46 "Believe it or not, this bird was complicit in Phoenix's cheating scheme" I have no idea why this sentence is so funny to me also you know there's going to be a deep explanation of game mechanics when they pull out the SM64 file select theme

[@Scrubermensch]

Because it feels like the bird was: you spling bro? No problem, I gotchu, get that save icon as I cover the screen

[@Cloud-zq3cc]

As an ace attorney fan, this sentence was hilarious to me . Just saying, the elevator

[@TheFerdi265]

I love how pannenkoek2012's videos had so much influence on the general style of strat and glitch explanations om youtube

[@SurmenianSoldier]

@@Cloud-zq3cc true

[@vladislav_sidorenko]

​​@@Cloud-zq3cc That time, the bird was complicit against the crime, though you could count it "forgetting" whether we have forgotten anything.

[@redjugg665]

seems like he didn't talk about himself in the 3rd person this time

[@saltycat8306]

What if this isn't him then? Oh god oh fuck. Mshushi has been replaced by an impostor.

[@chicken4222]

Oh god your right. Oh no.

[@zekiz774]

I didn't realized that he talked about himself in 3rd person.

[@Sonathan1893]

Maybe because someone said it made a bad first impression, but personally I cannot back that up.

[@davidfutterer551]

@@Sonathan1893 I really dont like him talking in 3rd person of him self. Sooo... I´m glad he didnt

[@AzuMazu_]

Petition to make ram ranch a requirement for future world records?

[@cyceryx]

signed

[@ECODKyleskymast]

ram%

[@cctz_1]

Signed

[@Soverthe]

signed

[@yovalo3382]

Not signed imagine someone accelerate slightly the video the music would be very usefull to check that

[@the_yurest]

Everyone: Has an avatar to make it easier for people to recognise them Msushi: *Source texture not found*

[@I_the_Taco]

tapl be like

[@norsetrack945]

0:35 I'm sorry, but the name clearly says "Msushi" not "Myself" or whatever.

[@bread6385]

im gonna correct you for no reason its mice elf

[@bastbo3225]

this is one of those comments where you can’t tell if they’re joking or not

[@nickerdoodle2300]

IS this a joke??? I legitimately cannot tell

[@doolosss]

@@nickerdoodle2300 yes lol

[@spacenoodles5570]

I think this is pretty clearly a joke

[@OkuriLucy]

It sounds like a cheated speedrun shitpost

[@bladeoftheruinedking2543]

Post

[@ilovesmosh2012]

@nick gurr based name, watch out for susan.

[@dfoshanz9833]

What name game?

[@TheSaoul]

This guy seems to care more about the passion and artistry in Speedrunning more than a crown. He's got the record, unsubmitted but he has it. He doesn't want to turn it in apparently. It's weird seeing someone so genuinely in love with a game but eschew any accolades for it.

[@seabass3818]

It's been a whole year since I last read this comment, and I haven't heard the word eschew since.

[@Femboy_Jophiel]

@@seabass3818 read a book

[@dtsnelson]

​@@Femboy_Jophielimagine telling someone to read a book because they haven't seen a word in a year when that word hasn't had more than a 1 millionth of a percentage of use in literature available online since 1843.

[@adderous]

Where else are they gonna see it, though. Old books are probably the best bet

[@Biosquid239]

​@@dtsnelson get his ass

[@nyroachboy]

Kind've feels intentional, named the run 2 berries, the 2 berries weren't shown, ram ranch in the background lol

[@larsvadgaard]

"kind have"

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

@@larsvadgaard Your point? This is how some people legitimately speak. Words have more then 1 set use.

[@ManBung]

@@Buglin_Burger7878 "more then"

[@Bashfluff]

@@Buglin_Burger7878 There's a clear distinction between alternate word usage and a mistake.

[@nyroachboy]

@@larsvadgaard I live in texas, that's just a common way to say kind of.

[@chuck_duck]

"You may know Ram Ranch from its iconic line '18 naked cowboys.'" - Msushi 2021

[@bigstopowens]

@@dumm9714 thats probably all people hear before they turn it off though

[@Misha-dr9rh]

@@bigstopowens You turn it off? Ram ranch is a banger.

[@nicosmind3]

He entered a highly suspicious speed run in every way possible. Zero sound making splices harder to detect, a parrot blocking part of the scree that would give it away etc etc. If anything it's the mods that should be punished for letting it through

[@fenmo9533]

Honestly, it seems like he submitted this run for the sole purpose of getting the moderators to apply stricter rules when verifying speedruns. Doesn't seem like a serious cheating attempt at all. Especially considering the fact that he literally pointed out the berries which caused the mods to look closer at the game footage, I think it's obvious he was leaving in some obvious ways people could possibly cheat a run to make the mods instate an overarching rule to prevent that sort of thing.

[@acheron-x3360]

Might even be some alt of some other pro speedrunner, seeing as apparently he only interacted with other speedrunners in the community.

[@JustKatoh]

Literally This

[@crewpup9481]

It explains why he wasn’t proud of it

[@fishmcmuffins3965]

as a speedrun mod for celeste who was a part of this situation first hand, i wouldn't really say that. he kind of just got caught up in a series of escalating lies - he claimed multiple IL records in some of the longest (most difficult) chapters in the game with no video proof, got multiple PBs he refused to share splits for, and random petty lies like that. he was still very good at the game and was a WR capable player, so a lot of top players started kind of hyping up his grind and i think he felt like he had to deliver. also worth mentioning that calling the run verified is a stretch, but it's kind of a mess - basically he sent the video to one mod (who was a good buddy of his) and they immediately verified the runs on the board, and the discrepancy in summit was found in under 30 minutes when another mod had a chance to watch the video. i think he didn't really expect the run to make it on the boards ngl, and when it did end up on the boards shit went down

[@fishmcmuffins3965]

@@acheron-x3360 nah not an alt lol, he streamed with mic and cam several times, has been to a GDQ (didn't do a run, just met friends), and has been in tons of other communities

[@arthand7672]

Definitely feels like he was trolling. Was probably shocked when the run was first verified

[@TomLube]

He had a friend approve the run to get it pushed directly to leaderboards, so this seems unlikely

[@boomerdave1172]

@@TomLube proof?

[@loganxavier]

I feel like it was verified at first to prove a point to the rules.

[@Henry_III]

@@TomLube proof? Link?

[@testerwulf3357]

@@TomLube Even if that's the case it also goes to show why when verifying a run multiple people should do so before it gets accepted so a cheated run can't slip through like that. The run's entire job was probably to show how easy it was to trick the mods into accepting a troll run!

[@darkeye457]

He ended up creating new rules that needed to be there from the start He's not a cheater, he's a hero

[@ghoulchan7525]

same energy as those people that entered a YGO Tournament with a 2000 card deck to prove a point there needed to be a deck size limit.

[@peanutallergy5318]

Once he said "no timer" and "no audio" I knew it was splicing

[@GuyNamedSean]

Could there ever be a more flagrant red flag? I mean, you're basically screaming to the heavens that you're splicing at that point.

[@amfram]

Ikr how the heck did they ever allow no audio and no timer. Plus not using the standardized timer program is really suspicious

[@kamataros5172]

@@amfram Not using the standard timer is fine, there are people filming their screen if they play a game on a console because they don't have a capture card or so, but any timer should be required. And game audio should definitely be a given requirement

[@starplane1239]

@@amfram It amazed me too that it went through, especially for a WR. You would think they would be extra suspicious about WR runs.

[@electroshock1021]

@@starplane1239 and especially the fact that, besides no time/audio, THERE WAS A BIRD COVERING PART OF THE SCREEN. like seriously people, how do you not notice this.

[@Ludvix]

8:22 Parallel Universe vibes intensifies*

[@HatGuyYT]

hello verified person

[@nutsuloid1887]

spliced speedrun to get trolled by pokefloats

[@crystalblister1]

whens the next upload luvdix

[@oolexer]

@@crystalblister1 this man took a year to upload, and you expect him to upload after three weeks

[@FakestLoogi]

@@HatGuyYT imagine thinking Ludvix is just a verified person

[@catrap5287]

he's still active, he's just training for cowboy%

[@Nennecatgirl]

I am 100% convinced that this was ironic. He did this as a joke, and it was hilarious.

[@aspenshadow7920]

I think he legitimately did it to get new rules added. He doesn't care about having the world record obviously or else he would submit his legitimate run. He's secretly chaotic good.

[@GFC_FM]

The mods of Celeste have already confirmed this was almost definitely not the reason he did so. He lied about plenty of other petty things unrelated to this, along with other reasons one of the mods mentioned in a different comment here. Plus, he could always just tell the mods to make the rules stricter, especially considering he was in constant contact with at least one of them. Also, the video with the bird and meme music wasn't the video he originally showed the mod he submitted it to. He originally sent the mod he's friends with the original, unedited video (which had in game music and no obstructions). The mod watched it, told him it was okay, but then when he actually entered his submission on the leaderboards, he linked to the meme version. So basically, he showed one mod he was friends with (or was at least in contact with) the true, unedited run. Once that mod watched it, he uploaded the other version, to avoid any other mods from catching on. That way, it would be harder for any other mods to notice, and if anyone asked, one mod saw the unedited version and verified it. Basically just took advantage of that one mod not doing a good job and then made it even harder for the rest of the mods to do theirs, but it didn't work out for him. The guy 100% wanted to get away with it.

[@theSato]

@@GFC_FM nahhh..

[@prcr364]

@@theSato Bro seriously

[@FuSiionCraft]

@@GFC_FM Yes, because the mods are garbage in checking the run and so did his shitpost run to "humiliate" the mods Also, lying and trying to figure out if what the runner say is true or not is also the base of checking EVERYTHING indicate that it's intentional, and EVERYTHING indicate that the mods are trying to pass it off as a "real run" to not be humiliated for doing garbage work Don't need 546415613 IQ to comprehend something this simple

[@WhoEls]

To me this looks like an intentional faked run to expose stupid rules.

[@pseudonym50]

I agree. The run is just so intentionally trollish that im surprised they even verified it in the first place. He obviously didn't care about leaderboard placement and probably just wanted to poke fun at the celeste mods for not taking cheating seriously.

[@Lmjacks]

@@polocatfan phoenix was not participating in the gsa league, there was no prize pool for him

[@unnoticed4571]

@@Lmjacks Lends more credence to the theory that the run was made to poke fun, and wasn't mean't to be taken too seriously.

[@KaneYork]

@@pseudonym50 You need to be a little bit more blatant than this if that's your goal.

[@WhoEls]

@@KaneYork No the video still had to pass the rules to be acknowledged.

[@S_whoelse]

I feel like this guy DID get reborn from his ashes, reborn into a quiet life where he is only known as the guy that played ram ranch whilst speedrunning a game.

[@syrup4835]

This is like the one time I agree with cheating. Chaotic good action of doing the wrong thing for the right reason, to fix the rules.

[@aquener1648]

Damn who is this Speedrunner called "Myself" prob worst than Msushi

[@TylerMarkRichardson]

Yea

[@bladeoftheruinedking2543]

There's too much of this joke that it's not funny anymore

[@aquener1648]

@@bladeoftheruinedking2543 ok

[@Soha_an.]

@@bladeoftheruinedking2543 ok

[@KipTM]

@@bladeoftheruinedking2543 ok

[@MintyLime703]

Even if this was somehow a legitimate attempt at getting away with cheating, the guy is too based for me to care. >appears outta nowhere >blatantly covers up save icon >bird.png >doesn't use timer >doesn't even try hiding the splice >ramranch.mp3 >doesn't elaborate >leaves

[@thecatalyst6212]

"the worst thing a speed runner can do" Me: speed walking

[@fossilfighters101]

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[@thecatalyst6212]

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[@hc6929]

±

[@ZukaUnare]

@@fossilfighters101 dude really said:➕

[@RileyB_226]

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[@AnonimInc]

Have to say, your narration is very soothing, great video!

[@Msushi]

Thanks! :)

[@pineappleplaguedoc]

agreed.

[@nikto7297]

@@Msushi bruh

[@usernametaken017]

@@nikto7297 ?

[@nikto7297]

@@usernametaken017 nothing

[@flower-yl6iw]

phoenix is actually a comedic legend and there was absolutely no excuse for the mods to miss the fact it was fake ToT

[@hydrei7066]

this video changed my life

[@JT-ev8sd]

Why tho?

[@priest4467]

Why tho?

[@ihatehandles69420]

Why tho?

[@doctqr]

Why tho?

[@nolanday1961]

Why tho?

[@attmayMB]

This is a remarkably fair explanation of a situation where someone made poor choices and decided to cheat. It didn't feel like an attack, though it could be tempting to present it that way. Fantastic video, as always!

[@shrek5534]

thanks man. good to see all my work appreciated

[@Sockren]

@@shrek5534 .

[@memerman9268]

@@shrek5534 .

[@dhedetry8571]

@@shrek5534 .

[@seal0_]

@@shrek5534 .

[@anotherwordly]

to be honest, this whole situation gives me a feeling the cheated run was on purpose, whether to test the site’s moderation, to prove a point about the lackluster rules, or some other reason.

[@Cherryblossoms110]

yeah there's no way in hell it wasn't a joke, I just looked up ram ranch

[@Stratocaster42]

This dude had to be trolling right? This seemed so deliberate

[@connorschultz380]

Someone suggested he was trying to get the modes to start enforcing the rules

[@prcervi]

going by the pinned comment, 100% a shitpost and partly to have mods clear out their speedrun loopholes with a partial "could not be assed to waste anymore time pulling a legit run for the shitpost"

[@ShiningDarknes]

@@connorschultz380 I mean with the bird and the text and the no game audio replaced with...questionable music choice...yeah I'd say he was trying to make a point.

[@mranxiety9995]

Well it's called ''2 berries" and the 2 berries are what gave it away soooooooo

[@punchy9542]

Don’t cheat by accident

[@bbgun9076]

I really think that guy did it all on purpose. To get those rules on. No, seriously. Pesky bird, ram ranch, that dot. It seems he did everything to rise suspicion, and still look like intentionally cheating... Who knows if he is really a big brain, or smol brain.

[@rpgbuster]

*looks for Grian*

[@Boro87]

Is it actually cheating though? Theres a freaking parrot on screen and no sound 😅. This speedrunnzr was making a point more than anything else.

[@KabalFromMK9]

It's a spliced run

[@loganxavier]

@@KabalFromMK9 Can you figure out the reason why it was spliced 🤔

[@IschmarVI]

@@loganxavier not necessary as splicing invalidates the run and as clearly, efforts have been made to cover up the slicing, the run is considered a cheated run. There is nothing to figure out. However, it is probably a good thing that this happened because it caused some overdue rule changes. Also, this is kinda hilarious, not gonna lie 😆

[@jakemartinez6894]

@@IschmarVI It doesn’t seem as though there have been attempts to hide the splicing… in fact, it seems as though there’s a bright, oddly shaped green arrow pointing right toward it.

[@UltraMarlin]

Eighteen changed lives in the comment section at Msushis youtube channel

[@wit2817]

bruh

[@smellypepperoni768]

lmao

[@ayb144]

absolutely did not expect that calm delivery of Grant Macdonald's Ram Ranch lyrics

[@Misha-dr9rh]

I will give msushi everything in my credit card if he sings the ram ranch lyrics in the same monotone voice with the instrumentals backing it

[@qanzii5949]

@@Misha-dr9rh holy shit i will also pay someone start a gofundme

[@J3ff_K1ng]

Can we appreciate how all this was destroy by 1 frame, he was clearly going to show how bad the rules were, like I'm sure that at editing if he really wanted to go with it he would eliminate that random frame and change it with a frame of a first completion run but he wanted to give an obvious cheat mark to make the mods change the rule Absolute legend

[@YourPalKindred]

Cannot believe my guy just casually drops in that he's an amazing Celeste speed runner Respect dude

[@vercingetorix2128]

"At the end of the run there was something... interesting" The Ad kicking in: REESES PEANUTBUTTER CUPS My brain: damn they really put a peanut butter cup in Celeste

[@HeyGuysItsSuper]

is this a poor person joke im too rich to understand

[@micaelacrapo]

b e e s e c h u r g e r

[@dungewar]

This video was the first time I've heard of Celeste. Now I've completed a great game and got to watch much more content from this game. Thank you for making this.

[@edilmao]

0:34 im sad that you didn't say "and msushi itself"

[@wolfe204]

It seems like he went out of his way to make the run suspicious.

[@Lelmao33]

Ikr, it feels more like he intentionally tries to make mods enforce this new rules

[@cralo2569]

wow really i didn't notice

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

"But this event essentially ended his career..." no it didn't. He didn't HAVE a speed running "career", a point you laboured at the start of the video. Like, if a recreational marathon runner irl, one day out of the blue joined the Olympics... And then took steroids in front of the Olympics headquarters... And then passed a drug test while wearing a shirt that said "I ❤️ steroids" and playing "But then I got high" on a boombox... And then at the race, in full view of everyone, got into a taxi to the finish line... And then posed for photos with the taxi driver which he captioned on instagram with "taxi finish"... And then the race officials gave him a medal... And then serious olympians FINALLY said "hold on officials, are you for real?" a few days later... If all that happened, he wouldn't be "ending his career as an Olympic athlete". It would be clear that he had no interest in the Olympics. This dude literally didn't care about the leaderboards or "virtual trophies" (cringe way to put it by the way) or "a career". He clearly just liked playing the game fast, and saw a chance to play a prank while maybe improving things for those who actually believe "career" is a valid term for speed running. It's ridiculous to frame it as "ending a career": before this, he played alone, largely unknown, rarely if ever submitting to the leaderboards. And after this, he plays alone, largely unknown, rarely if ever submitting to the leaderboards... Not a thing has changed for him. He's not been permabanned (and even if he had been, it wouldn't affect him), he's not lost some audience, he's not lost friends or a livelihood. I'm not saying he should have lost anything, just saying that it can hardly be called losing a "career" if nothing actually changes.

[@RealCutieMutie]

That is the best analogy that I heard in a long time. Also I totally agree with you.

[@blueye95]

i love the use of celeste's own music here, esp the 2a track around 1:28. great vid sushi

[@Dafuzzinator]

"Did you see that?" No dude, you timed an ad to interrupt it, I didn't see shit

[@lysander3262]

It's always surreal to hear Xanadu Games namedropped as a locale for major events. As a UMBC student who was there to see its founding, Im consistently pleased to still hear about the store's role as a hotspot for competitive gaming more than a decade later. None of us regular goers woukd have predicted it at the time. Cheers and keep on running.

[@Lemmons_]

Wow you're so good, this is actually amazing, you pushed yourself this far and I hope you keep on playing and shoot for the stars. Such a good run and I'm so happy you got this PB

[@adeeta5701]

I’m just waiting for pillow to find this and insult you

[@isaiahig2298]

wgagt

[@danielpearson5852]

Noone wants to change the rules. Phoenix: Fine. I'll do it myself.

[@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash]

"speedrunner", "career" HA - you got me dead laughing with that one

[@DarkIzo]

>names run "2 berries" >fails to cover up berries *congratulations, you played yourself*

[@atticusnari]

Yeah ironically this is what probably made the moderators question the berries lol

[@Graknorke]

No I think that's what he was going for.

[@DeWitherWarrior]

This man is like both the narrator and the side-kick of the tv show, he is in the leaderboard of every speedrun scene he does a video on lmao

[@_sprook_]

Well, that makes sense! He makes content about things he knows and is familiar with, and enjoys. Being a speed runner, he cares about speed runs.

[@jordandwiggins1026]

So like Armin in AOT?

[@DeWitherWarrior]

@@jordandwiggins1026 idk who that is but im hoping you will send me down a very fun rabbit hole, wish me luck!

[@DS-ld8ns]

@@DeWitherWarrior good luck.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

This is a shameful display, not on Phoenix's part, but on the speedrun community as a whole. He literally played all of them for morons and succeeded.

[@evehellod9776]

This looks too obviously faked, feels like his intention was to get caught

[@fernandotorrero779]

The background music is about a bunch of cowboys banging in a barn while a giant bird takes a massive part of the screen, if anyone needs more clues to know if that was fake then i feel sorry for them. Mind you i have never heard about celeste before but damn, that was almost a 4chan level shitpost.

[@juniperrodley9843]

@@fernandotorrero779 He also called explicit attention to the thing that got his run disqualified

[@camiblack1]

@@fernandotorrero779 and the original run had neither, but pointed at another problem. He basically fast-tracked what would be an obviously spliced run through a friend. It did a lot of exposure.

[@nightplaymc]

I genuinely feel like he just didn't care and he uploaded a spliced one on purpose just to troll.

[@Emleo.]

@the hevy do you have some examples?

[@cynthialymon8996]

@@Emleo. I don’t remember exactly but I think someone with shark in their name had a cheated run. They didn’t reveal it until months after so it probably wasn’t trolling.

[@cynthialymon8996]

Loan Shark Joe.

[@omnipotent9148]

"Splicing is Possibly the worst thing a Speedrunner could do" idk man, Murder might still be worse

[@EmraHemingway]

“Which means THIS speedrun was SPLICED. But what IS a spliced run?” *cue Mario64 title screen music

[@davidthecommenter]

it's not the title theme, you're thinking of the file select theme.

[@Vienna3080]

I genuinely imagine the mod didn’t verify the Speedrun originally because he was being bombarded by Ram Ranch lmao

[@Misha-dr9rh]

as if that's not a reason to verify it just to listen to that absolute masterpiece

[@icy239]

This isn't the weirdest cheater, this one player pointing out the severe flaws in speedrun verification and how easy it is to get it past mods.

[@funky555]

Why is mtsushi a world record runner in like every single game

[@az12223]

Because he has no fucken life

[@LynTheNobody]

@@az12223 holy sh*t you fricking killem 'em dude!

[@az12223]

@@LynTheNobody killem with fact and logic mylady

[@LynTheNobody]

@@az12223 i am a male but ok lmao

[@AnonyMous-lk7zi]

Because you aren't watching enough games

[@Actual-Knight]

"at the summit, there was something... interesting" **advertisement for meat plays**

[@JetstreamSam343]

The dude is a legend He made a meme and got new rules implemented I salute this madlad o7

[@ryaquaza3offical]

Hearing Ram Ranch over this speed run is just straight up hilarious. Remind me if I ever get into speedrunning to speed run Fallout4 with the audio is just 4 hours of nothing but Pepper Coyote - Blast Radius

[@PhiAce_0]

“And for Phoenix’s run, at the last chapter of the game, the summit, there was something interesting...” _ad plays_

[@renakunisaki]

I wonder if there are people who cheat specifically to enable the creation of these videos.

[@Perdix64]

I can’t believe that bird was complicit, smh.

[@litespaceOG]

Really informative, interesting, and very well structured video. Explained amazingly and easy to understand for people who do and don't speedrun. You deserve way more subscribers for the quality of these videos. Keep up the good work! 👍

[@asdfjkl227]

"let me introduce you to a speedrunner that cheated by pointing out I am a top speedrunner that was invited to win money in a competition."

[@mythiccheese_]

I forgot to leave a comment but it's really cool seeing how fast you've started growing recently it is quite pog

[@paystation4pro15]

4:52 thats one of the most unironically funny thing I’ve ever heard 😂

[@RobertRRDB]

Msushi: this music is too inappropriate Comments: it's time to swear

[@smallblue08]

thank you for this video, after watching it i decided to finally try this game that ive had sitting in my library for 2 years. this was probably one of the best games ive ever played, 2 days ago i finished up ch9 and beat all the c cides

[@RolandTheJabberwocky]

Great video, did he ever explain why he did it? Its so damn weird, it almost feels like he was doing it as a joke or to force them to implement more antisplice rules.

[@mintpaintome]

Yeah, it almost feels like its guerilla tactics. The fact that they put fucking Ram Ranch in it makes it very hard to think that this was somehow not intentional lel

[@Bollibompa]

@@mintpaintome They?

[@akramyasser7609]

@@Bollibompa where's the problem?

[@arosenthal3318]

@@Bollibompa They can used as a gender neutral pronoun for a singular person. Please go look up the actual definition.

[@wta1518]

@@Bollibompa They is often used as a gender neutral singular third-person pronoun. Would you rather it be "The fact that it put..."

[@gonnsolo8506]

I love how in the footage from his legit speedrun, he's listening to Hyperballad, a song about throwing things off a cliff and fantasizing about throwing yourself (while in Celeste he's climbing a cliff)

[@DiVeDimensions]

bjork do drop some slappers i do declare

[@gonnsolo8506]

@@DiVeDimensions I can confirm

[@dragon_pi]

9:41 "Remember the bird?" - No why would I? It's just green and weird and eye-catching...

[@gampeosorio]

There is always someone cheating.

[@bargrosnintendogames7607]

The Mario 64 menu select music has become the official theme song of speedrun documentaries at this point

[@alphadevilll]

This is such a well executed video. Polite, informative, engaging ,compelling at the same time. I have never played celeste or have ever known anything about it, but I completely understand the story..great job 👏 👍

[@danielmoran3578]

“The game audio was muted” That’s when you know it’s fake

[@baitposter]

And being supplanted by Ram Ranch is how you know it's a shitpost

[@iancole2279]

I actually think he did it to prove how exploitable the rules were. Speedrunners often cheat runs to prove that the rules aren’t good enough. I mean he put an obvious bird in front of the saving icon and played ram ranch. I don’t think he was necessarily trying to pass it off as legitimate. He’s been known for being a weird person when it comes to running.

[@starplane1239]

Considering how he seemed disappointed in the run, its more likely he spliced it, submitted it, and felt terrible for doing so, but didn't have the will to remove the run or admit what he did.

[@DemsW]

he could've done a way better job at hiding it and then say it was cheated. Also he could've called it a cheat after it was verified but he didnt

[@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867]

@@starplane1239 except he then proceeded to display dominance and do an actual run, if he can achieve the actual time via legitimate means then it is clear that there would be no reason to cheat unless to send a message. The man is a hero, and his ban is unjust.

[@starplane1239]

@@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867 Its stated his ban had been over for months. He could have practiced until then. That's how practice works.If he could already do it by the time his ban was lifted, why would he wait several more months before proving it?

[@acario100]

@@starplane1239 The berry in the second part of his splice was out of the way and a legitimate time loss to get. He did this on purpose for sure. It would have been easier NOT to get that different berry.

[@MoonstarAriadne]

4:20 Quick Note: Mac users aren't capable of running LiveSplit(unless they pay for a special program called CrossOver), so LiveSplit One is more viable for them.