MT-07 VS SV650

[@SuzukiC41]

One VERY important note to make considering the release date of this video: the 2019+ SV650 has switched to 4 piston fixed calipers, a huge improvement from the 2 piston sliding calipers, for the front brakes. The master cylinder has also been changed. I can't find much info on the master cylinder to say if it's an improvement or not, I can only say that it's different. Small points that I want to make about the video, some of which are strictly personal preference. I've got about 60000+ miles on the SV650/Gladius/V-Strom 650 and only 50 miles at best on the MT07/XSR700 Power: The SV650 is definitely weaker at anything but the very top end but this is a double-edged sword. It's a very linear increase in power all of the way up to the top whereas the MT07 hits peak power much sooner, then it feels like it falls flat on its face relative to the rest of the rev range. The extra ~30cc displacement on the MT07 was definitely not for top end power Weight: The SV650 is definitely heavier but as someone who is 6'5" and 240 pounds, I enjoy the heavier weight of the SV650. More steering input is required but it helps to keep a more planted feel in a corner and on the highway. Suspension: Before anyone asks, I understand both bikes are highly undersprung/underdamped for me in the first place. Every bike I ride will be. This comparison is *mostly* relative to each other. The MT07 is definitely better at absorbing bumps but that's because it feels like riding a motorized pogo stick. The SV650 feels MUCH more composed on the street whereas the MT07 feels like it's just jumping around even 1-2 seconds after a bump. Leaning over in a corner is definitely not as comfortable on the MT07. It's not budget like either bike, but the Street Triple is an example of a bike in this displacement range which feels great in corners. Sound: The MT07 has a better sound, hands down. They have effectively the same firing order, there's just something about the MT sound over the SV sound Vibration: My first thought upon starting up the MT07 for the first time was "wow, I can literally feel the counter-balancer." Not enjoyable to me but that's strongly from my personal experience Workability: I haven't worked on the MT07 but I'd imagine valve checks are definitely a strong plus for the MT. I've done a few for the SV and they're always a pain, same goes with spark plug changes. MR8E-9 plugs are also stupid expensive/uncommon... Ask me how I know

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

Very good observation, I'll pin your comment thanks for sharing :)

[@bryanh5176]

Re: SV650 Spark Plug Change: I did plugs and air filter for the first time in 1 hour. Service manual lists NGK CR8EIA-9, I got 4 of them on Amazon for 36 dollars.

[@SuzukiC41]

@@bryanh5176 The gen 3 SV engine takes MR8E-9 plugs, at least when in the V-Strom 650. As for time, 1 hour is not crazy but I'm the kind of person who likes quick maintenance

[@rickshawphilippines]

I'm in Philippines and getting ready to buy a sv650a. I'm 6'6" 235. I've only sat on one in showroom (they have no test ride) hows the ride comfort for you?

[@gamwpanagia]

I've read a few posts about the sv engine not being made to work in high rpm. Any comments?

[@devilsadvocate2548]

You make a very valid point about the reliability of Yamaha motorcycles generally as a brand, however the SV650, in particular their 645cc V-Twin, has a very strong reliability reputation. That engine is about as close to 'bulletproof' as bike engines get. Plus are you sure you looked properly at the aftermarket for SV650 'upgrades'? They have a massive aftermarket considering how many of them are raced etc, not to mention how long they have been around!

[@ewooll]

I own an SV650a but have also ridden an MT-07 although that was only for the day when i rented one. I see the MT as a quick thrill bike because it felt really quick because of it's powerful motor and light weight, but it didn't feel well made and solid. I felt it had some bad points like a super grabby front brake and a hot engine where the fan would cut in at every standstill. The SV is more solid, old school and the engine is a rumbly throbby beaut that has good pull down low plus a bit extra at 4500 rpm. It feels well made, mine has done 55,000km and still comes up looking like new. Oh, my SV is super jerky in the low gears around town, that's it's worst point.

[@fabianlowi8944]

My choice is the sv650😁

[@bernardjameswilson]

It's a great no nonsense bike. No plastic parts that make it look bulky. Just a great reasonably priced L twin bike. My only gripe is that they could've at least put in more effort into making the swingarm look better.

[@paulnolan6866]

Owned an sv650 2005. I can't fault the bike in any way other than not being able to wheely it because of the oil deprecation problem. Brilliant bikes

[@RaiinBowHoster]

Same for me i wanna do wheelies 🥲

[@suprlite]

Lots of people wheelie it. As long as it is only for a few seconds now and then, it wont do much damage. But dont commute on the rear wheel 😅

[@pedroreprezas]

SV 650 has been the top mid weight bike in over 20 years, I commuted on a 1999 SV650S with carburetors and that was best fun I had on two wheels, clocking in over 50 000km in the two years I owned it. I sold the bike with almost 90 000km to buy my dream bike the VFR800 6TH Gen VTEC. I still miss my SV.

[@ragerider6283]

Nice vid. Very fair. These bikes are pretty even & while the FZ is cooler imo, it's the V-Twin on the SV that always draws me to it.

[@hirootto2771]

Hey, why is the V twin better ? thanks

[@ragerider6283]

@@hirootto2771 Not better just different & maybe worse in some ways. V-Twin's are more complicated to build & package as well as being heavier so just my preference. I like the way it looks, sounds & goes compared to other twins & all other engines too as they just have more character imo.

[@keldonator]

@@hirootto2771 Same engine is used in the Vstroms, well known to go over 100k miles with regular maintenance. Havent seen any 100k mile FZ engines.

[@butlersracing7692]

I watched this channel and content grow so nicely over these past few years and it's easily becoming one of my favorite.

[@johns1139]

Great video. MT-07 and the SV650 are at the top of my list for my next bike.

[@ericraeder9995]

I bought a mt07 2018 this year and I'm absolutely loving the bike. The sound and the power also cornering with the bike is so much fun.

[@shadowpandapc]

When my 99 SV650 died in was looking at the new one and comparing it to the MT.. in the end I decided on the Triumph Street Triple S

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

I don't blame you I may just also go for the Street Triple RS in 2020, love that bike :)

[@Marco-cl9pb]

Great choice but the Triumph it's on another class... Way more expensive

[@shadowpandapc]

@@Marco-cl9pb Base model SV650 is £6k, the Street was £8 but I got a decent discount off as it was a showroom model! And on 5 year finance the difference was like £20 a month, worth it :D

[@Marco-cl9pb]

@@shadowpandapc I'm not saying it's not worth it but from 6 to 8 it's about a 30% jump, I'm happy you had budget, ofc the Triple it's way superior to the SV or the MT but that jump in price it's also quite big :) well I have a MT07 but if I had the money I would probably buy the Duke 790 instead lol (before the 790 launch the Triple was mostly my dream bike too)

[@karlosh9286]

Snap ! I was looking at getting a second bike. Possibly SV650, CB650R , CB500F, MT-07, and I got an 18 month old second hand Street Triple S instead (around the same price) :)

[@GB-fo2ce]

i love my 2019 SV650ABS and think the front brakes work well. Quite strong and easy to modulate. Ride safe.

[@DeltaEchoRomeoPapa]

same here, the grey/red one. stay safe mate :)

[@jamesherrington5606]

I own a MT07 and would buy it again but I think your analysis is valid.

[@ridehead8771]

Having ridden the 2020 Mt07 first impressions are it's light, and man what a punchy engine, however that's pretty much I can say about the bike. The suspension is terrible, feels like a cheap made bike, the gearbox is far from smooth clunky and industrial, the headlight is yellow halogen, which is a big let down for a 2020 bike, the switches and controls are very ordinary, I know it's a budget bike and priced competitively though. I ride the 2019 Cb500f, now it's obviously less powerful but jumping back to my Honda what a difference, its more planted, brakes are better, gearbox is better, maybe due to slipper clutch assist, just feels more premium quality than the Mt. I can't compare with SV650 I've not ridden one, will try it out as well soon. Great presentation congrats 👍👍

[@atostesjr]

PERFECT! I had both and agree 100%. I'm planning to buy another SV by the end of this week. Try the SV!!

[@karlosh9286]

In the UK, the SV is a reasonable bit cheaper. Not much in it really between these 2 on the choice here I'd probably have the SV. In reality I've got a Triumph Street Triple S and a Speed Twin !

[@Vlamyncksken]

All the points were spot on. Especially the dash position and the squeaky plastic. But to address the latter; it's a 7000 euro/usd bike, so it is kinda cheap to start with.

[@Merkaba954]

I'm about to go and buy one of either of these. They are so close that is really hard to decide. I think the suspension on the SV is what is winning the bid from me. I am about 220lbs and the FZ/MT is just not that great in the front end. The sv isn't hugely better but it is better

[@joeyp4196]

Which did u end up getting? U like it?

[@Merkaba954]

@@joeyp4196 well I actually went with the XSR700. I love it. Have the 2 Brothers exhaust on it as well now. Sounds great.

[@joeyp4196]

@@Merkaba954 Congrats on the bike! Sweet

[@robertniemiec8146]

Both bikes are amazing really. Love that sv 650 v twin and that black and red colour combo makes me wannnt one even more.

[@kostas79]

SV650 with 180 rear tyre would be 👌🏼

[@suprlite]

180 looks cooler, but steers poorer.

[@Drt0Kkdo]

Slide in a decat and it's gonna sound and look way bigger than it actually is.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I see the SV still needs an Arrow header and ECU flash to remove the restrictions. Nice review. I would have also included a category rating for "Switchgear/controls" because I know Yamaha has designed garbage in this category since 2014. Same switches used on MT-07, MT-09, Tracer 700, Tracer 900 (non-GT). Also it seems to me the less button pushing is necessary to view the most relevant information on the instrument display, the better. And, are those buttons hard to access or push with gloves. Also throttle tube (rattles, feels like it's on ice), clutch and brake levers, etc. As underpowered and buzzy as the Z650 is, Kawasaki hasn't saved a few dollars by using excessively cheap switchgear and controls.

[@QuickRipzz]

I just picked up an fz07 2017 2 months ago. Installed the horde power intake on it and flashed the ecu. Have a quickshifter I've yet to install. I LOVE this bike! Haha. Was riding an r6 prior to this and loved the r6 too!

[@busboy3232]

Just an fyi the 2018-2019 sv650X has adjustable suspension on the front which is a plus for Suzuki

[@saxon1177]

I just wanted to say that when you love your bike for how fun it is you don't think about nor care about other bikes. Kind of like how when you're in love with your lady, you only have eyes for her and no other bitch matters with hot legs or suspension matters.

[@Jafmanz]

zusaiki?

[@ulyssesgecole4173]

Maganda midyu mataas ang upoan ya ..ok n ok syan..pag umangkas nito ang idol ..nako dmi iiyak nito

[@MrGreencrazycat]

Красавцы! Возглас при падении с мопеда был так ожидаем на великом и могучем и он состоялся! 5 балов!

[@m1n1truck3r2]

Nice comparison! :) Got a FZ-07 myself and I can confirm pretty much anything said about that bike. Also, I LOVE that inverted display! Gotta get that kit soon. I would love to see a GoPro mount for the Ruroc Atlas. :D

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

Thanks for the feedback, we'll put ruroc atlas on our list :)

[@VeeSneedles]

With the construction point.. you compared what looked like a low side slide on the sv to a front end collision on the fz..

[@Built63]

Both bikes getting a point for the first two the sv650 won for sure...braking better all around sv650 power- sv650 no ecu flash like the mt07.

[@n300zx931]

Well spoken review. Both seem fantastic and you explained that very well.

[@JustAnotherOne1]

0:28 Blyatt (pancake) !!! Your welcome!

[@rk4921]

pancake is blin..

[@nickagapion1925]

He definitely said FUCK!

[@XSReiter]

Pancake lol

[@matan2903]

Both nice bikes but would go with the 07 for the sound alone.

[@eduardocastaneda7466]

Love my Suzuki sv650

[@eldritchshiner]

I like the FZ, but the SV is better for taller riders (like me) :)

[@QuickRipzz]

Don't forget the mt07 wins the wheelie factor!

[@alejandrovalencia9524]

Great information. Thank you!

[@00ejbrowni09]

Cool vid. What mirrors are on the mt07 ? Thanks

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

Check out my mt07 mods video :)

[@lralcantara]

Should’ve compared it to the 18+ MT-07... much better and refined...

[@aldikan]

Thank you guys, great work. What windscreen you got on SV650? How is the protection? Do you recommend? Can you provide us with the link? Thank you!

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

I updated the description for both bikes with all the parts. its a Givi A3111 i'd say its best short windscreen you can get for that bike. There is quiet a difference, but it all depends on your height :)

[@aldikan]

@@TURBOTWINKIE Thanks, list of mods is very helpful. Great work!!

[@bassiclogic]

I hate to bust your bubble, but the Yamaha FZ-07 is not the same bike as the MT-07. Similar but the the forks / suspension are completely different!

[@MrVixs]

Nearly skipped the video. Untill 'blet' 😂🤣👌 good review!

[@ericjudd9603]

Got me a 2020 sv650👍

[@oliverf.4235]

Upvoted. Finally not a milktoast review with the conclusion "all bikes are fun". No you clearly stated a winner and that's refreshing.

[@shapelessdreams]

can I just say that I got certain forza horizon 4 vibes at the end around 9:48, it might be the song choice that really has similarity with the game itself lol. as if I was playing a motor based racing game and you were an npc explaining me in detail what bike would fit my needs for my next drive lmao

[@dodjidahoue7523]

Omg right ?? That gives me forza vibes

[@thinkmeet]

nice review i really enjoyed whactching! honestly my true love is SV650!!! But 07 it's Cool!

[@bryanbase1323]

Youre making me miss my fz07. I got into an accident about a month ago and broke my damn leg

[@Jafmanz]

heal well fella.

[@hathaway.1166]

I wish Yamaha would make a more powerful MT 07

[@stylin60es]

Fuuck same here 2 years ago..! Heal fast brotha. Shit sucks. You'll get through it. Stay safe!

[@Jafmanz]

@@hathaway.1166 They do its called an mt-09.

[@Alpha-ms8nl]

what about the rev sound. Which one is sounding better and why?

[@nkolchenko]

I'm 186cm tall. Mt-07 is definitely small. And that awful plastic... Everywhere :-) P.S. I'm an SV owner, so can be biased :-).

[@karlosh9286]

Very good video. Nice and concise.

[@electric2018]

Best part of the hole video: 0:30 😂😂😂

[@TrustyZ900]

SV 650 looks way better than any MT. Never seen a test where an MT beat an SV in the 1/4 mile. Take off 30 lbs. off SV and it would definitely take it. That p twin will never last as long as this V. Not much does.

[@lukemiles1711]

Great video! thanks! Could you make one where you explain the fuel maps you did on the bike, and what program you need for that? Thanks

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

I already made a "how to" on the flashing part it's on the channel. As a starting point I'd recommend using preloaded ap motoarts files. That flash will get you pretty close without messing with any fueling :)

[@lukemiles1711]

@@TURBOTWINKIE Thanks Twinkie! Will check them out!

[@rjgona5104]

Who got better mileage?

[@Tortillo_Adventure]

How did you put the phone like that in the 07?

[@lvbiketime6208]

Услышал знакомое слово, когда ты разложился)))

[@boodi1170]

My favourite part is when your mate said Blair xD

[@boodi1170]

Russian classes 101

[@AoSFreaKz]

Where do you buy your after market parts for the fz07 or sv650? Im in Canada and everything seems like its out of stock or there isnt much choice. I'm looking for frame sliders + front + rear

[@panzerrjcb]

Aliexpress its your friend, Huge collection of aftermarket acessories for MT/FZ 07

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

You're right its really to get hold of parts here. I use motostarz and bayside performace (it will take weeks before you get your parts though), also check you local dealer they are partnered up with a lot of aftermarket companies :)

[@Unknown-pg4ko]

2:20 Thats just you who cant put the power down cause youre scared. Learn to ride the fz then do it properly.. also you can smash the throttle wide open in 2nd not half way through why so scared? And your mate put himself down which will obviously help keeping the front wheel down why dont you do the same to make it even? -.-

[@CptSlow89]

Isnt engine braking more noticable on v2 sv650?

[@Alex-ry9mh]

Good vid, i was for the sv btw ;)

[@nyctophilecat]

Me too

[@skrrt1321]

What year of motorycles were these teo

[@jamesharty3598]

On the sv650 how are the aftermarket bars? Do they make a difference?

[@Drt0Kkdo]

Is it just me or are the SV handlebars taller than stock

[@EpicKook]

Do you ever show the LCD flip kit during the day time?

[@BEEBEE159]

Great review...

[@chenanigans6437]

Is there any way to convert the LCD speedometer to analog?

[@rubo1964]

SV hands down better bike looks, performance, reliability.How I know it? Bought 1st gen new and loved it.Like all SV owners beefed up front and rear suspension and handling improved tremendously.What is unique about SV is like having 2 bikes in 1.Before 7k RPM its Civilized motorcycle, after 7k RPM it becomes a beast ready to rip and why racers love it.

[@adamr6860]

River rd? That turn is notoriously known for taking riders down. I saw 2 bikes go down there last season. Luckily nothing serious

[@loosenoose]

I'm going to watch the video, but I wanted to first come here into the comments and say that the SV650 wins. You can get a good condition second generation SV for like 2,000 bucks. Try to find that kind of a deal with an FZ07 or 09

[@mrBrock407]

fz09 will smoke the sv650 on all levels.

[@bb-ballistics1706]

Ask yourself why the sv is cheaper....

[@stanislavsannikov2258]

@@bb-ballistics1706 because is is older .he is talking about 2 gen which ended in 2008 . I would say for 2500 us you can get a great one.

[@shaunbarclay1309]

wait they changed the airfolw on the sv650 and didnt remap it? why do it then all you're gonna do is damage the bike

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Yeah, it's probably running leaner but won't be out of "safe" range until changing the exhaust headers for a cat-less higher flow system. ECU flash would eliminate 2ndary butterfly restrictions, 1-3 gear power restrictions, 6th gear top revs restrictions, and ignition map restrictions.

[@lukemiles1711]

@@exothermal.sprocket Damn I got so much to learn. Didn't understand a word here...

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@lukemiles1711 Don't beat yourself down about it. Modern machines are complicated. Simple way to think about it: Air flows through the airbox snorkel, through the filter, down the throat of the throttlebodies, past a couple of throttle plates, into the cylinder, fuel mist blends with the air, compresses, explodes, and the flow continues out the exhaust all the way to the tip and back into the air. Eliminating the restrictions on the intake and out-going sides increases the ability of the engine to consume more air. It's an air pump. More air requires more fuel in order to achieve the proper ratio for combustion. The ECU controls the fuel. If you increase airflow through the system by removing restrictions (better air filter, less restrictive airbox, less restrictive muffler, less restrictive header pipes), the ECU will adjust itself to provide more fuel...... to a limit. Usually about 10% is the programmed limit. Beyond that, the engine just starves for fuel and runs lean. Lean = hot. Too lean = very hot = damage. Each motorcycle is different, not every ECU is the same, not every collection of hardware controls to make it run are the same. Not every airbox, filter, exhaust system are the same. Every bike has to be addressed according to its own design and limits. Usually the ECU has to be flashed (reprogrammed) to put out more fuel, better ignition timing curves, better throttle maps (ride-by-wire) to suit the changes. The result is more power. It's not because bolt-ons generate power. It's because bolt-ons UNRESTRICT power the factory was forced (EPA emissions regs) to harness the engine with (which reduced power, reduced noise, reduced carbon emissions, reduced fun).

[@lukemiles1711]

@@exothermal.sprocket for Motorcycle President! Thanks a lot man! This explains it all :D ! Will snip this and print it out :) Wish you all a great Christmas and happy New Year!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@lukemiles1711 You're welcome. Happy and safe riding to you!

[@juliusfaulhaber5850]

Was the db Killer inside the Suzuki SV 650? Which Bike is louder?

[@leonarddavid282]

MT’s ECU is upgraded its not fair

[@ВладимирАнаньев-ч7е]

"Бл...ть!" 😂

[@Shlemodelipoletel]

Бля не падай!)

[@Partnerthedog]

I decided to get a 4000$ 2017 sv650 with 13.5k miles over a 5000$ 2017 fz07 with 7k miles... if the fz was even cheaper id buy it lol

[@darkproject3368]

such a good video

[@aditibiswas508]

How do you remap the ECU? What language?

[@AntaresSQ01]

Scorpion EXO 510 Air chin mount?

[@unknowninfinium4353]

I heard MT07 has rusts problems and the seating nit comfortable.

[@mothoscopechannel3154]

bro where did you buy your bar end side mirror?

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

spieglerusa.com/

[@popdatclutch3010]

Fz has some wow factor bc the motor is amazing tbh i think its better than the vtwin. But the sv chassis is wayyyyyyyyyy better than

[@enriqueleyva7621]

DO you have an ENDER 3 lol i have one myself and i saw those scissors and i have the same one

[@phatbass37]

MT07 all day. Nolan N87 chin mount please

[@JohnConnor12]

The SV looks better, in my opinion, but you can't compare their engines. The Yamaha is light years ahead.

[@jackwiedemann]

Have you ever rode a new SV650? This engine is the absolut dream man.

[@matecaljkusic480]

Hi, could you help me I love this type of bikes with mine 6.2 or 188 cm and 265 pounds or 118 kg, which would be better for me?

[@thewolfsogood]

If youre light go for the susuki because its so much better at constant high speed like highway you’re heavy it doesn’t matter. how tall you are doesn’t matter both bikes can be lowered with ease but because of the yami sides your knees cant always find a comfy place to be (my english is bad)

[@ПилотОст]

I thought that accent in English is just a peculiarity in pronunciation from American.Но после этого 0:29 я понял почему так:D

[@sslumpf8631]

Is the sw motech crash bar on the sv 650 good?

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

I’ve seen them in action plenty of times they did their job so yes

[@slavomir8045]

The SV650 going to 150 km/h same how Honda VTR1000F :-) Iam had old (carburator ) SV 650 nice 10 years (never had fault).

[@Gorlami90]

I think I’d buy an fz07 but the SV looks MUCH better it’s not even close

[@vladislavyarosh6997]

А чё там русский делает? Это же точно русский. Такой акцент буржуи не повторят

[@vitaliycherepanoff9116]

Учитель русского у мексов

[@yusirahwhite3984]

is fz old name?

[@1down.5up49]

Do you make a mount for the shoei rf-sr??

[@TURBOTWINKIE]

It's on the list it will hopefully be out in the next month :)

[@rileygates6502]

Ruroc atlus helmet mount

[@crlzax9767]

Suzuki engine and yamaha engine who the best from quality, durability, etc Sorry bad english upss

[@MotoMedicine904]

The sv650 motor has been around for a long long time. It has more history than the MT07 and are known to last

[@lucarides]

Flying out into the outer space

[@thumpertorque_]

FZ07 for me. As beautiful as the SV is, it's the headlight that ruins it for me.

[@JimmyGr90]

Taste is a funny thing. The round headlight of the SV was what grabbed my attention in the first place.

[@thumpertorque_]

@@JimmyGr90 Don't get me wrong, I like simple designs like round and square headlights like on my DRZ but I thought the design looked out of place compared to the rest of the bike which looks more modern compared to the retro style headlight. I think they look better on bikes like the Honda shadow but on a naked bike, the FZ07, MT09, Z400 headlight style suits better. The SV is still a great bike though, if I didn't have to chose between the FZ I'd pick it.

[@Totone56]

@@JimmyGr90 Same, that's what i love about it !

[@慎一郎二宮]

our teacher was sv650 are not you ?

[@suzukihamamatsu6767]

Sv for ever

[@stockmarketvl]

Что тормоза то не сравнили?

[@dima17430]

Вижу ты понял о чем речь на видео) не объяснишь вкратце? какой хвалят больше, и за что ? ) Спасибо

[@stockmarketvl]

@@dima17430 а это не важно.

[@frankiethefin886]

2018 suzaki😂