MTG Top 10: Mana Rocks | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 221

[@Wesleyy13337]

Even without EDH, Sol ring still rules supreme.

[@patrickwolff6902]

crypt is def better than sol ring. 1 man in so much more than 0 and the risk of the loss of life isnt even close to outweighing the difference in cost. Granted sol ring is still ridiculously powerful and fits into many decks that crypt doesnt.

[@whitaker2452]

When i started mtg i bought 4 copies for my "modern deck"😂

[@09Dragonite]

Tbh, without EDH, Sol Ring would probably be insanely expensive because of a lack of reprints...

[@jaredt2590]

Sol Ring since it doesn't give you a color is good. You can tap the opponents lands and destroy it. If they're playing green it's a little more tricky. It's best used in a green deck.

[@toastghost9145]

I get just a teensy bit frustrated by how good the Ring is. At least Mana Crypt has a downside in that it bleees you.

[@catboy_on_main]

EDH be like: i play a land, i play sol ring, i tap sol ring to play arcane signet

[@sonofchlar6144]

Edmund Dantes tap arcane signet to play exploration...

[@bobshelington7366]

Land, sol ring, mana crypt, 2 signits

[@smashflame2136]

*Laughs in dark ritual*

[@QuosEgo-v3y]

Edmund Dantes no u

[@ElfHostage]

Tap sol ring: Activate two different RTR signets.

[@johnfuquaiv5171]

Ha, brand new creatures are an untapped resource.

[@megatenshi]

It feels fitting that the number 1 card is THE EDH staple. Though, I am a little sad that the rules excluded Lotus Petal, since it's one of my favorite cards.

[@kurtilein3]

Black Lotus is a strictly better Lotus Petal and would then be number 1 on the list.

[@megatenshi]

@@kurtilein3 No shit? That wasn't remotely the point of my comment lmao

[@kurtilein3]

@@megatenshi Fair, i just have it on my mind because i purchased my first one recently. Light played/played unlimited, but flat with no dents, no damage apart from wear, no ink. The one you want for playing. Next will be a really nice one from beta.

[@henryzelman4541]

Mana Crypt is leagues better than Sol Ring. The only reason it's not as ubiquitous is because of the price. Both should be banned out of the format but for someone reason they aren't.

[@JalebJay]

Manavault going from 1998-200 is impressive.

[@Magnivore519]

Nizzahon: I'm not going to take EDH into consideration on this list. Also Nizzahon: Crypt, Opal, Vault, Grim, Sol Ring, Chrome, Diamond.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Haha yep, lots of overlap.

[@joelhaggis5054]

Good mana rocks are good mana rocks in any format. It makes sense if you think about it.

[@Narabedla4]

I mean, they are good in EDH, because they are good...lol Necropotence is good in edh for the same reason...

[@russellhassan7773]

I was literally walking my dog half an hour ago thinking about how you haven't seen Sol in your vids, saying to myself "what if Nizzahon made a mana rock vid?" and voila! Thanks for answering my wishes immediately, I always click on your content immediately.

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

7:33 A brand new creature is often a pretty *untapped* resource Haha, I see what you did there

[@oldirtysean00]

That mox opal art is so good. Definitely my favorite mox art.

[@joaopedroalmeidacaetano1619]

Pauper is played in premier events now.

[@LatinoJackson]

no matter how WotC tries to make a fixed mox, they can’t It’s as if moxen (free mana) are inherently broken.....

[@Wesleyy13337]

Mox Tanzanite?

[@sallomon2357]

Mox Amber?

[@Mattpoppybros]

@@Wesleyy13337 Mox Tantalite is bad in the opposite direction

[@Ceracio]

@@Mattpoppybros I mean, it's kinda nice to cascade into from a 1-drop. Far less fun to cascade into from an 8-drop.

[@colinjones5379]

Shame there's no 1 or 2 drops with cascade :P

[@fatbeard8072]

this helped me out a ton, the #10 Caravan. YES!!!! It is dirt cheap to buy, it can be used right away, and becomes a decent sized creature when you only have small creatures in the beginning usually. Fits my criteria for most of my EDH decks. Thanks.

[@captainkarnage9874]

Where's my "I can't sleep due to my crippling anxiety/depression squad at"

[@vivi_for_real]

Yep, Its 2:30 AM for me

[@slimyfister]

Tell every muscle that it is going to relax, and let's waves of that feeling wash over you. It's a mild meditation that can help

[@3babylon3]

yee

[@ChrisFactor]

If you removed all sol rings points except for this year it would be #10 on this list 🤣😆

[@aeneas1677]

anyone else find it super cool that sol ring, the dubbed 'power ten' costs only around a euro on cardmarket?

[@rashakor]

The honorable mention for the color moxes should at least give their score to be able to compare with Sol Ring. The biggest surprise from this list is not to see Basalt Monolith, which was a staple of Type I and Type II back in the 90's together with Mana Vault and Sol Ring

[@lefloidNemesis]

This might as well be a edh list since these are the most powerfull mana rocks there too

[@genericfakename4372]

IDK, it seems like some of the spots might lose out to Signets and Talismans if that were the case. I swear, those things are only slightly less common than air.

[@lefloidNemesis]

@@genericfakename4372 Sure but i would still argue that, except for 10 and 5 these are all more powerfull. Sure Signets and talismans are extremly effective but mindstone often is just as good with an added utility and all the other ones cost less mana then they actually produce which is BEYONDE powerfull for combo and control, since it accelarates the turn you can combo off or doesn't tap down the mana you need for your instants. signets and talismans often just cannot do that.

[@astonrichardson5288]

Wooo Sol Ring. Can’t say I’m surprised 😅

[@wizardish1264]

7:35 An untapped resource? That’s what we’re going with? In all seriousness that was an extremely good pun.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Man I can’t believe they still print Sol Ring in the Commander precons every year. Outside of the Power 9, that is the most busted shit ever. Granted, it’s not nearly as good in EDH, but it’s still pretty crazy.

[@ryanoutram7059]

I dunno, it's really hard to think of an EDH deck it wouldn't be a good pick for

[@Ceracio]

@@ryanoutram7059 The only deck i can think of where you would deliberately not run Sol Ring is a deck that REALLY cares about pips. Maybe some kind of Devotion Tribal deck, but even then you're probably going to need at least some colourless mana. Maybe elves? Most elves cost some variant of G, so spending 1 green on turn 1 to get out a card that may not be useful for 3 or 4 turns because all your spells cost G is pretty meh.

[@catboy_on_main]

I play with people that have decks so annoying that if they start with a turn one sol ring they pretty much just win the game right away.

[@alecazam6755]

@@Ceracio One edh deck you 100% can't use it for is all in Belzenlok Combo. You can't have any nonland cards under 4 or if you do, they need to be the combo finisher.

[@Ceracio]

@@alecazam6755 Oh that's true. Well noted, dear internet stranger. Have my upvote.

[@Jay-ei4cr]

This video rocks! Anyway, Nizzahon videos are always the best source of entertainment. :) (Seriously though, this has got me curious, I wonder what card is the highest scoring card of all...)

[@Sheepyhead]

Island? ;)

[@SephonDK]

Beside basic lands, the card that has counted the most so far is Thoughtseize, with Lightning Bolt being second.

[@Jay-ei4cr]

@@SephonDK ah, neat! Thanks for answering me :)

[@SephonDK]

@@Jay-ei4cr Np

[@RobertPompaGaming]

I thought it was negate

[@ClexYoshi]

I would have accepted you putting the power 9 moxen as one entry on this list, even if it is "Boring"

[@gaspardbonnehon8758]

At least, we know they all have around 500 points each

[@Goblintom]

I like Chromatic Lantern. Because I like multicolored decks. And the new Skyclave Relic.

[@mtgpackrat7945]

I will still say mox diamond is number 10 on the power list. True you have to discard a land but who needed that anyway? Also it makes one of any color!

[@wanderinghistorian]

I can remember going down to the card store in the late 1990s early 2000s and grabbing 4 Sol Rings at $1 a pop to put into a new deck. I had a bunch when I "got out" of Magic. No telling what those things are worth now...

[@Blazicle]

@@gregoryford2532 lmao

[@sonsysy4195]

Top 10 wallet busting mana rocks aside from moxes

[@kaisinnott6774]

Sonsy Sy plus sol ring and mind stone

[@RedScarGaming]

Could you please do a video on the power nine, the Top Ten Power Nine as it were.

[@joelturland6263]

A brand new creature is a pretty untapped resource Brilliant

[@no_Ray_bang]

Have you done top 10 cards in magic's history?

[@shadowofseattle1338]

Mana rocks are aight I prefer cryptolith rite and saprolings personally

[@danielwomer]

Crazy list, love it!

[@jaredt2590]

Chrome Mox is as bad as the originals. The card makes it a little worse but as soon as you get this out it boosts your Mana pool by one just like the originals. Somebody can destroy your artifacts and disable Mox Opal. That's a fun card to play with and doesn't break the game.

[@PaulGaither]

If there were a power 10, many other cards would be on that list above sol Ring. Yawgmoths Will and Library of Alexandria for example.

[@researchinbreeder]

Top 10 color combinations when?

[@JMarcus52]

My luckiest ever EDH hand was a Turn 1 land, tap for Sol Ring, tap for Arcane Signet, tap for Exploration, play second land then to tap for Birds of Paradise. I was the first one to lose because of how big of a target I was.

[@mezoss6424]

Good video, as usual. It would be nice if you could show the cards you are talking about while explaining one of the top 10, like you do with Grim Monolith. At 2:55 you refer to other cards and I have no clue what they are. I won't google them while I'm watching your video so I feel like I'm not following the thought process.

[@michaellarson9571]

When/if commander gets pro tours and GPs will you add it to the points list?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yep, seems highly unlikely though.

[@bonesofeao3968]

If sol ring was unrestricted *shudder* you could play every card on this list on turn 1

[@ehk5948]

>Watching an old top 10 before bed sees a notification Who needs to sleep?

[@presenceofthemastermtg5962]

please tell me that's excluding the 2/3 of the power nine that are mana rocks. funny thing is, the rest are blue spells.

[@eh7010]

For curiostity's sake, what were the point values for true moxen?

[@kingfuzzy2]

Absurd

[@invertedghostgames9899]

Kinda surprised Mox Amber from Dominaria didn't make it onto the list.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Mana Vault was always hilarious in the Shandalar videogame. The AI never figured out how to untap it, so it was slowly killing itself with it.

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

They never figured it out for me too, mostly because I kept sinkholing and strip mining their lands, and ripping their hand away with Hypnotic Specter.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

@@TheShinyFeraligatr Makes no difference. No matter how much mana it has left, it will never untap Mana Vault.

[@eac-ox2ly]

Of course it had to be Sol Ring. The one mana rock to rule them all.

[@aarlavaan]

I would argue a single point for this video. You said Mox opal is better than the original Moxen when metalcraft is online. I would think that is status as a legendary permanent is a bit limiting.

[@NizzahonMagic]

The moxen are restricted/banned in every format, though, so they are effectively legendary.

[@aarlavaan]

@@NizzahonMagic I suppose so.

[@AidanWR]

Thanks for using original Sol Ring art

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

“I excluded the Moxen as they would make this list too boring” But not Sol Ring? Well, even without watching, the card that goes in every Vintage deck ever across all time is going to be number one then.

[@pphyjynx8217]

i think he means that the whole list would be filled with moxen of different colours. that's why the list would be boring

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

@@pphyjynx8217 Much like basically every time lands from the same cycle have appeared on the list, he'd just combine them into one anyway.

[@michaelboyer7253]

I’m surprised “one with nothing” isn’t on this list it’s the best mana rock.

[@seasian6863]

where do you go to look up where it placed in old standard decks?

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

This list *rocks!* BTW, the Mox are mana rocks so Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9).

[@chasebethersonton5169]

How many points do the power 9 have? Just curious.

[@lanesteele240]

How much would mana ring be worth if it were not reprinted in revised.

[@raynmanshorts9275]

Top 10 boardwipes

[@swy334]

Moxes in the list would not be boring. Love them

[@jacksonchaffin2518]

I would really like to know the scores of the power 9!!!

[@mastermike890]

Since they are excluded from almost every list he really should just do a “top 10” power 9 lol. I too am curious what there scores are.

[@Wesleyy13337]

Probably all about the same as Sol Ring, as they're all vintage only.

[@MatheusGomes-ej3mr]

he mentioned them in the top 10 cmc 0 cards video, they all have over 500 points

[@wackzacko]

Were the artifact lands not included? Or did they just not make the list? I get that they're lands, but things that let you put an artifact into play (Tezzeret the seeker) makes them like a Mox and plus they are artifacts that produce mana.

[@NizzahonMagic]

They weren't included.

[@LadyBernkastel92]

Poor Mox Amber. Always the amber headed stepchild.

[@bonesofeao3968]

Grim monolith can also go infinite in multiple 2 card mana combos

[@xarshoon7157]

Power Artifict

[@SiusBleach]

LED didn’t make the list? I’m genuinely surprised

[@NizzahonMagic]

Not a mana rock

[@kevinkelly2736]

EXCUSE ME BUT YOU FORGOT CHRONATOG TOTEM

[@lordlarac]

Today I was playing with my friend and I made him hate Sol ring

[@elipetrou9308]

Mana crypt is so easily the best, I know sol ring is iconic but it’s not even close.

[@andrewbezzina87]

you talk about PT/MC/GP TOP 8 appearances yet i don't know of any of the events which where in the Vintage format.

[@NizzahonMagic]

I count Legacy and Vintage Championship Top 8s as well -- which I say in the introduction.

[@alenor813]

Lotus petal?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Not a man rock, because it doesn't stay in play.

[@ashra8281]

I think maybe you should give a card that's banned in a format a point or so. Since while it got points for being good that lead to it being banned it's so good in a competitive scene that it needed to be banned

[@solidzaku2]

I shall be the Power 9th comment.

[@kartoffelnpommesgut]

Keep em comming

[@izdziabol]

I thought chromatic lantern will be on the first place :)

[@SpitefulAZ]

Top Ten power Ten cards! This was the First time I've heard you reference it in one of your videos.

[@saladtop8499]

Mox Tantalite 👌🏼

[@GrendelNin]

No Lion's Eye?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Not a mana rock

[@GrendelNin]

Nizzahon Magic Oh right...I guess one shot mana is not much of a rock. More of a mana bomb. I am old school, and we lump all artifact mana together. LoL

[@jesterbomb123]

Surprised lotus petal didnt make it

[@NizzahonMagic]

Not a mana rock

[@captainkarnage9874]

Power 9 imo for these lists should have spot 0 just to get it out of the way in the beginning

[@NizzahonMagic]

I mean, how is that any different than what I did?

[@kaszael]

Thank you for using "eponymous" correctly. :)

[@mentefiamma1744]

You sound a little tired, is everything ok Niz?

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yep, I was definitely tired though. My mother visited for Thanksgiving, and her plane home left at 5 a.m. yesterday. I recorded this video after taking her to the airport. And yeah, was exhausted.

[@mentefiamma1744]

@@NizzahonMagic aww man I feel that wish you well and all support because u deserve it so much I really enjoy your videos and adore this channel

[@davesimpas2046]

3 mins since upload and I'm 56th lol

[@zachhugo7424]

RIP mox opal, F

[@Cer000s]

I disagree with the low placement of mox diamond and it should have been in chrome mox's spot. Remembet that for diamond you just DISCARD a land and not actually exile a spell? Every heard of "Life from the loam"? Mox, mox, loam, land, exploration, another land, go? That is 4+ mana turn 2 in legacy. Now tell that is less busted than chrome. You mentioned dark depths for mox diamond, but you should have mentioned LANDS

[@ryanoutram7059]

Oldmate tells you how he scores these lists at the start of every video though smh

[@NizzahonMagic]

Points are points, I don't have any actual control of where cards "place." And yeah, I should have mentioned the Lands deck -- but that deck frequently wins with Dark Depths, so I'm not that far off.

[@Cer000s]

@@NizzahonMagic i guess i forgot it was based on a score and not your personal top10. My bad.

[@the_old_crimge74]

Why is your only base for what makes a card good, or able to be on these lists just competitive wins?

[@TheOneHyer]

He wants an objective way of measuring a card's impact on MtG and it's power level. Competitive tournaments are objective and have readily available data about the best cards. He occasionally does subjective lists, but clearly states so at the beginning of those videos.

[@the_old_crimge74]

@@TheOneHyer that's fair I guess, it just feels weird with EDH, and CHL getting cut out so often out of lists, as much as I love these lists

[@cullensmith6275]

Basalt monolith is better then grim but I know that’s not how to scoring works

[@cax1175]

Combo potential yes, as a card no. Grim is an immediate plus in mana

[@jaredt2590]

Mox Diamond is cheating too, getting that land in play is easy.

[@shawnbrahh]

Awww no welfare Stone..

[@devin5201]

the moxes

[@NizzahonMagic]

The plural is moxen. And also, did you not watch the first minute of the video? Where I clearly state I didn't include them?

[@devin5201]

@@NizzahonMagic I wrote this before even watchin the first second as a goof but yeah, I had feelin you'd exclude em. Great vid also.

[@CaptBackwards]

1:03 leaving now Big thumbs down, dislike and unsubscribed. Ingoring edh populace is a very bad thing. EDH is the most popular format in all of magic.

[@NizzahonMagic]

I have to have some criteria, and I choose to focus on Magic's competitive history - ProTours and GrandPrixs, where we have much clearer data. I don't have anything against EDH, it is just excluded by my methods. If you watch this video, you will find considerable overlap, though. But, given your extreme reaction, I probably don't want you as a subscriber anyway!

[@anthonyduarte4260]

cool

[@cspeeds96]

Woooo

[@lukehacker2563]

I don't really understand your logic as to why you don't include Lotus Petal. You don't want to include Chormatic Star because you have to sacrifice it. That doesn't make sense on multiple levels. Chromatic Star doesn't even ramp it only filters your mana, whereas Lotus Petal would actually still ramp you. So showing Chromatic Star as your example for why you're not including it makes no sense to me.

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yeah, I could have chosen a better example -- like Lotus Petal. The Petal does ramp you, but something that does it for only a turn isn't usually given the phrase "mana rock," and I don't use it either.

[@lukehacker2563]

@@NizzahonMagic Ok, yeah, makes sense that they aren't considered 'mana rocks' even though they might ramp. After all, it's a top 10 list of "Mana Rocks" =D

[@andrewnash5813]

First