MTG Top 10: War of the Spark Limited Bombs | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 159

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Nizzahon Magic

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@LatinoJackson
@LatinoJackson 5 жыл бұрын
Number 4 doesn’t even need an introductory name being given, what a flex!
@andrewhoward6946
@andrewhoward6946 5 жыл бұрын
Just won my local Prerelease 8/0, after building a deck mostly based on a reference sheet from your set review, tons of help, thanks! Tolsimir hands down was my all star, taking me from imminent death to victory multiple times. Nissa won me the rest.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@nickbalmes6640
@nickbalmes6640 5 жыл бұрын
Wow so Oketra has a cast trigger to create those 4/4 zombies with vigilance. I thought it was ETB... welp, definitely a game-warping card
@jimharris5320
@jimharris5320 5 жыл бұрын
@Kel'Thuzad 'Bomb' means it will turn the game and mean a win unless you deal with it immediately. She fits that definition. I had her in two separate sealed decks and she is massive but not unstoppable. Like you said, if the opponent is wide she does not help. The Wanderer/Wanderer Strike removes her. Damage her back into the deck, etc.
@wunglu176
@wunglu176 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Harris the wanderer and the wanderers strike does not remove her. You just put her back their from the top of the deck.
@n0obz27
@n0obz27 5 жыл бұрын
Bond of insight can get rid of the gods. Or Ashiok
@ViashinoWizard
@ViashinoWizard 5 жыл бұрын
Again: Bontu is a lady godzombie
@EloquentTroll
@EloquentTroll 5 жыл бұрын
Bontu, Hazoret, and Oketra are all ladies, Kefnet and Rhonas are gentlemen. Also your profile pic is adorable!
@ViashinoWizard
@ViashinoWizard 5 жыл бұрын
Worth noting: the zombie tokens Liliana and Oketra make benefit from the abilities of Eternal Skylord and company.
@EvanFarshadow
@EvanFarshadow 5 жыл бұрын
Esper Zombies seems really good in limited
@ashra8281
@ashra8281 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvanFarshadow well... there's no reason to go espee unless you open one of the bombs
@EloquentTroll
@EloquentTroll 5 жыл бұрын
The non-amass zombie tokens are both on mythics, so you will probably never have both, but either is great with amass ability granters are suddenly more valuable if you get either.
@myloglaisek5718
@myloglaisek5718 5 жыл бұрын
From experience on arena, sarkhan wins games by himself with ease. Especially when you play him on turn 3 on the play lol.... I’m so sorry to the guy I did that to.
@CD-ek3iq
@CD-ek3iq 5 жыл бұрын
Yargle Glutton of Urborg his +1 is nearly an ultimate. With extra planeswalkers in play, it’s game. Crazy good.
@gubblebumz
@gubblebumz 5 жыл бұрын
Who else is pumped as hell for this prerelease???? What archetypes do y’all want to play?
@ThatOneGuyJesse
@ThatOneGuyJesse 5 жыл бұрын
Excited as hecc! I hope I'll get to make sacrifice work since it's so difficult in most sets ^^
@aldrinvendt8524
@aldrinvendt8524 5 жыл бұрын
@Kel'Thuzad well, I had an Oketra in my sealed pool ( which was actually absurdly good, two gideons!) and one of my opponents continually used some blue enchantment that turned it into a 1/1 with no abilities, meaning even if it died, it wouldn't go back in my library. such a god-slayer card, so its not quite an auto win. pretty close though.
@EloquentTroll
@EloquentTroll 5 жыл бұрын
I ended up in Abzan tokens at the prerelease, but my first draft let me play Boros Feather combat tricks, and it was everything I hoped.
@jasond.lepine6074
@jasond.lepine6074 5 жыл бұрын
Gods are why Kasmina's Transmutation is a top 3 if not the best creature "removal" of the set !
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
+1/+1 counters are why it isn't as good as you think it is! It is good, but certainly not a bomb.
@jasond.lepine6074
@jasond.lepine6074 5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic it is a good point for the counters. Nonetheless, being able to cancel the ability of the gods to go back in the librairy as well as the situational one on some of them (well all of them except Bontu i guess) can't be ignore. It's related to the fact that if you got a God in seal or draft, it's not an auto win, but you start way ahead of players who don't. And so little deal with them. Some counterspell, yes, but what else ?
@ladiesman2048
@ladiesman2048 5 жыл бұрын
that Oketra is ridiculous
@WhatSmada
@WhatSmada 5 жыл бұрын
Decided to do one more sealed event on Magic Arena last night, cracked Gideon and Okeira. My first 7 wins!
@georgercop
@georgercop 5 жыл бұрын
One I found to be particularly good (albeit expensive to cast at 6WW) is Parhelion II. If your opponent cant deal with it, then they just die to it. It creates two 4/4 vigilant angel tokens every time it attacks, which can also then be used to crew it again so you have a bigger blocker on your opponents turn.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, format is slow enough that I was definition wrong about.
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite 5 жыл бұрын
You're totally right about the number of bombs, the whole list I was wondering how you were gonna narrow down the number of cards that would make the biggest impact. Finale of Devastation is nuts, God Eternal Rhonas is insane, Narset is wicked, Teferi looks so gross, even the new Karn is worth mentioning. This set is just packed with dynamite, and I'm especially glad to see Roalesk and Nissa made your list! I'd love to play something around those two!
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except new Karn, who is horrible in this format.
@MistaHoward
@MistaHoward 5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic New Karn can be ridiculous if you end up with a lot of the vehicles, especially Parhelion II (which he can crew and pump at the same time). Even better is that you don't have to maindeck the vehicles if you do, you can bring them in with his -2. I do agree that he's horrible 99% of the time though.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
@@MistaHoward 99.9
@MistaHoward
@MistaHoward 5 жыл бұрын
​@@NizzahonMagic Probably more than that honestly, but it's something to consider for sealed at least. Definitely not worth going for in draft, unless you already have a crazy vehicles deck somehow, or your draft goes very wrong.
@gubblebumz
@gubblebumz 5 жыл бұрын
Sarkhan the Masterless Static Ability + Dragonlord Silumgar/Acid-spewer Dragon???
@haydonali4169
@haydonali4169 5 жыл бұрын
12:03 *inhales*
@spawnofmelkor
@spawnofmelkor 4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting looking back on these through the lens of hindsight. I was convinced that Teferi would have the top spot.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 4 жыл бұрын
He was good in Limited, but not a bomb
@spawnofmelkor
@spawnofmelkor 4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. I guess I only play constructed, so I have a different experience of him.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 4 жыл бұрын
Yes very different haha. He was an A+ for constructed.
@aldrinvendt8524
@aldrinvendt8524 5 жыл бұрын
In my prerelease kit I somehow managed to pull 2 gideons, 2 gideon's triumphs, and an Oketra! I also had a huatli, which made Oketra even more ludicrously strong! best prerelease deck I've ever had!
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@tiffanyplacencia2296
@tiffanyplacencia2296 5 жыл бұрын
Played Roalesk several times today. It was fun. Have three of them
@FlawlessRhythmGG
@FlawlessRhythmGG 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised Saheeli didn't make this list. I drafted red deck wins and between Ilharg and Saheeli, they won me most of my matches. I had to splash white, which was helpful cause it gave me some extra interaction.
@prestonianone4802
@prestonianone4802 5 жыл бұрын
Still psyched that I got Oketra as my prerelease promo
@grassnibbler5091
@grassnibbler5091 5 жыл бұрын
Best way to kill a god seems to be mill/discard effects.
@twincast100
@twincast100 5 жыл бұрын
Does "Kasmina's Transmutation" get rid of the god text clause? 2 mana enchantment "Enchanted creature loses all abilities and has power and toughness 1/1"
@jonathanthomas2171
@jonathanthomas2171 5 жыл бұрын
yes it does
@gregorygarrison572
@gregorygarrison572 5 жыл бұрын
Or counter magic
@polyemphis
@polyemphis 5 жыл бұрын
Put Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God in my Sisay, Weatherlight Captain deck. Just an awesome way to access him more easily and vomit planeswalkers in general. Then use Sarkhan, The Masterless to turn all your planeswalkers into dragons and crack for massive damage
@profmembrane8501
@profmembrane8501 5 жыл бұрын
The set that kills Gideon makes him a damn good mono white weenie planeswalker... Fair trade
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 5 жыл бұрын
Black as a whole is so strong now, that alone makes Lili 10xs more of a threat, the cards have synergies with her make her the number 1 bomb of spark.
@the7A7dude
@the7A7dude 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping me get ready for pre release, every time I get mediocre pulls though so probably won't matter
@EBHsswvZUM
@EBHsswvZUM 5 жыл бұрын
Ilharg is a holy terror if you have something with a powerful ETB in your hand. Like Rhonas.
@lunarmathemagics7881
@lunarmathemagics7881 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the midnight pre-release tonight. Hoping I pull any of these beauties!
@MrMonKey905themonk
@MrMonKey905themonk 5 жыл бұрын
Lol same I'm going to 3 this weekend im pretty hyped
@robvakarian2330
@robvakarian2330 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I did well with Oketrea and Gideon. Then opponent one busted out 2 sarkans, Vivian and raze boar
@ElectricBulletZZ
@ElectricBulletZZ 5 жыл бұрын
Guy next to me at prerelease got a promo oketra and gideon, and also opened a kefnet I played him last game ended up going 3-1 while he went 4-0
@bobdole8830
@bobdole8830 5 жыл бұрын
With rare keep you kinda always pic any mystic you get unless the rare happens to be an extremely heavy hitter
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 5 жыл бұрын
You know, as good as these cards are, I just wish that they'd put Rock Lobster back in power so that it would be a limited bomb. Although, the biggest bomb is the "Request Top 10 Vintage Cards" card. I think it's really good!
@xaer0knight
@xaer0knight 5 жыл бұрын
Nicol yes hard to cast in Standard but in Modern/Legacy no problem. I think without looking it up we couldn't name all mana creation or mana reduction (like medallions) Cards, from the obscure (Kamigawa's got some fun lands) to power nine to Mox Amber (which everyone said sucked 60 days ago).
@nickchagnon
@nickchagnon 5 жыл бұрын
Pulled oketra, rohnas and Gideon in my pre-release, went 4-1 due to land screwing.
@dennisyoung6122
@dennisyoung6122 5 жыл бұрын
Ashiok really should have been on this list. If they can't do anything about her she eats through half their deck in five turns without being able to bring any of it back. All for three mana, either black or blue. Mill in limited is almost always broken, especially if you can do it multiple times in a game.
@davidrosenberg9615
@davidrosenberg9615 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Ashiok is nearly the only way to mill. With no other support, you'll never get through the whole deck. Not good enough.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Ashiok is nowhere close to being a bomb.
@christopherwilliams6848
@christopherwilliams6848 5 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who was winning sealed games on Arena with goddamn Jace. This set is so weird.
@polyemphis
@polyemphis 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a card which lets you pop planeswalker abilities at instant speed?
@Quebradanet
@Quebradanet 5 жыл бұрын
I think I'd rather have any of the gods, Massacre Girl, Finale of Glory and Finale of Eternity over Nissa. By the time Nissa comes down, there's not much you're ramping into or many forests left in your deck if you do manage her ultimate. For our purposes, she's pretty comparable to Arlinn, except you lose less if they kill Arlinn's 3/3's.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Could be true.
@Quebradanet
@Quebradanet 5 жыл бұрын
The vigilance seems like the most oppressive part of her ability because unless you have a couple flyers and can kill her right away it's hard to get through the ever mounting wall of lands
@TheIhplodur
@TheIhplodur 5 жыл бұрын
Don´t forget Nissas Ult can bring all your Forests in your Deck into play. So you have a higher chance to draw what you need, especially all your lands are forestst. This also is a great combo with every creature who gets +1+1 for every forest you controll.
@n0obz27
@n0obz27 5 жыл бұрын
I just did an arena omniscience draft. Being the genious I am, I let several bombs go, because it didn’t fit my colors. I submitted the deck all happy. Then I remembered its omniscience... smh
@moss81ish
@moss81ish 5 жыл бұрын
I had an ugin and Nissa in my first pre-released online. For some reason ugin Was really good but not a complete bomb like I thought it would be. I know This is not going to happen real often but I had Nissa and ugin out At the same time taking them both up and I thought for sure I had that game but then my opponent played the elder spell with an ob nixilis out and they basically took over the game. Obviously this is a very rare thing to happen and normally those two together would definitely take over but there is a lot of removal for these cards in this says though I felt like they never lasted long. Nissa was great because I had those creatures and if they had a good blocker or something I still was able to have add that extra manner and there were many games where I took it over with land creatures. Ugin I did like making the spirit but it seemed like every time I played him I could never successfully use his minus without him being killed immediately but sometimes you just have to take out the big threat and hope they don’t have more. I definitely agree with your number one that was the one I was expecting to be there just because it is so powerful. Played against a couple Liliana‘s and she also seems to be pretty dang good if not taken care of. All of the guards I can see being really annoying because even if you have multiple removal spells you’re going to see them multiple times so you have to hope you can win before they are cast again.
@BorgMater
@BorgMater 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, love your videos,but one question and i mean no offense - they all start very loud, then the volume lowers as the video progresses, and in the end get loud again :-/ Is it me or others experience this as well ? Keep up the good work with the content !
@schylerreis5227
@schylerreis5227 5 жыл бұрын
why does Godeon have indestructible and the prevent damage clause? It seems redundant to me. What am I missing?
@jonathanthomas2171
@jonathanthomas2171 5 жыл бұрын
infect, poison counters, any "deals damage to" clause
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of it has to do with flavor, but yeah there are also a few things that the damage part gives him protection from.
@danielslack9114
@danielslack9114 5 жыл бұрын
He stays a planeswalker and damage to a planeswalker removes loyalty counters. The indestructible protects him from destroy effects. Prevent all damage preserves his loyalty.
@schylerreis5227
@schylerreis5227 5 жыл бұрын
thanks@@danielslack9114
@ThatOneGuyJesse
@ThatOneGuyJesse 5 жыл бұрын
I definately disagree with the other two gods not being on the list. The fact that it is literally impossible to permanently get rid of them is huge. Especially Kefnet, being evasive in a planeswalker-filled set is insanely good. The two gods missing are definately better than Bolas or Nissa.
@fermitupoupon1754
@fermitupoupon1754 5 жыл бұрын
You can get rid of the god creatures by countering or milling them. They only come back if they are buried or exiled from the battlefield.
@mariesterweijden5596
@mariesterweijden5596 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree that bolas is better, but definitly They are better than Nissa
@EdgePitSwing
@EdgePitSwing 5 жыл бұрын
Kasmina's transmutation is the biggest bomb. Change my mind.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Ok. This format has lots of +1/+1 counters, making it a lot less good.
@EdgePitSwing
@EdgePitSwing 5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic I am swayed, lol. I still think it's amazing because it stops GODS. 😆
@joonasjarnvall832
@joonasjarnvall832 5 жыл бұрын
Little sad for not having tolsimir at 9 or 10 but great list anyway
@FS-qn1xe
@FS-qn1xe 5 жыл бұрын
Rolex, Apex Hybrid...
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
U so cool
@OthEdden
@OthEdden 5 жыл бұрын
Rololesk is the only non-planeswalker, non-god on this list.
@CoL_Drake
@CoL_Drake 5 жыл бұрын
i have my prerealise on saturday and maybe again on sunday
@broxmax6670
@broxmax6670 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised krenko didn’t make the list
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
He is great, but only early, really. He gets in trouble on clogged boards. Bombs don't.
@broxmax6670
@broxmax6670 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that
@bishop716
@bishop716 5 жыл бұрын
eldrazi ugin deck... laughs evilly
@jonnymactavish3941
@jonnymactavish3941 5 жыл бұрын
What about the finales?
@OneOfDisease
@OneOfDisease 5 жыл бұрын
Too expensive to be bombs, I had the white one with massive green ramp and never got to cast for 10x
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
I think the Black or White one could make the list in the end, they were on it at one point.
@grassnibbler5091
@grassnibbler5091 5 жыл бұрын
In the final match of my first sealed draft my opponent conceded the turn before I was going to cast the white one with x10 - FeelsBadMan. I just wanted to see it go off. Jace and Teferi working together was pretty mad.
@mikechurchill1071
@mikechurchill1071 5 жыл бұрын
Bontu is a female but excellent video I love them
@EdgePitSwing
@EdgePitSwing 5 жыл бұрын
Roalesk ❤❤❤❤❤
@RisottoNero-z1w
@RisottoNero-z1w 5 жыл бұрын
how the hell do you deal with oketra?
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Scissors
@wrydrune
@wrydrune 5 жыл бұрын
Mill, force discard, counter. As long as it doesn't hit the board you are fine.
@derrickmelton5844
@derrickmelton5844 5 жыл бұрын
@@wrydrune or turn it into a frog...been a while since I delved hard into the rules but return to nature with its trigger on the stack may finish it as well since the last known information is no longer valid. Pretty sure if you check gatherer that works since it technically is no longer the object that left the battlefield meaning there is nothing for the trigger to target.
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 5 жыл бұрын
I want to run Nicol Bolas, Dragon God so badly into my Superfriends EDH deck. But I use Atraxa, so no red! I think I'll have to swap into Progenitus.
@aidennoir597
@aidennoir597 5 жыл бұрын
Ramos is a good superfriends commander if you want to actually cast your commander. He helps ramp and synergies with proliferate.
@maddeeps5520
@maddeeps5520 5 жыл бұрын
You could also do Sliver Queen because her tokens synergize with doubling season and parallel lives (a good include if you run token generating walkers for frontline protection) , you wont want to cast her often but with the right setup she becomes an alternate wincon that you always have in the back pocket
@jonathanlinderer7271
@jonathanlinderer7271 5 жыл бұрын
You could also use Jodah and cast massive spells like Expropriate for 5 mana
@kylenelson6045
@kylenelson6045 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@meatrace
@meatrace 5 жыл бұрын
How is Command the Dreadhorde not on here? So busted...
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Needs considerable set up.
@meatrace
@meatrace 5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic Hasn't been my experience thus far. Even if there is one dead walker in your yard (or pref your opponents) by the time you get to 6 mana, it's going to have value. At best it completely reshapes the board. Just my 2cp.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
@@meatrace 6 mana to get one walker does not sound like reshaping the board to me. You are right it can, but it doesn't on its own.
@meatrace
@meatrace 5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic That isn't what I said and you know it. 6 mana to get back the best creature or walker in either yard is the floor of its utility, and (IMHO) getting even two puts this in bomb territory. I've only played in 4 sealed tournaments on Arena so far, but I've gotten this in my pool twice and has won me the game every time I've landed it.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
I did not "know it." I legit misread your comment, but my point remains, most bombs don't need help to take a game over - if the fail case is getting back one walker, it isnt a bomb. I like the card, I gave it a B in my set review. But I don't think it is on the same level as cards on this list.
@cspeeds96
@cspeeds96 5 жыл бұрын
Whoooo
@xignited
@xignited 5 жыл бұрын
Nicol Bolas is an easy play in the black green deck that than hit any color
@michaelmolzan3001
@michaelmolzan3001 5 жыл бұрын
Bontu is female
@Platinum_Imp
@Platinum_Imp 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, it’s cool and all, but the chances of opening at least one of these rares and mythics are extremely slim. People already know they are good. I think it would be better to make a top 10 of uncommon and common limited bombs, that video would be much more relevant. Just saying
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
I made that video too, on best commons and uncommons. And did a full set review.
@Platinum_Imp
@Platinum_Imp 5 жыл бұрын
Nizzahon Magic than I apologize for not checking
@mysticflare829
@mysticflare829 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty good list 👌 Also first.
@myloglaisek5718
@myloglaisek5718 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that oketra is good but without other creatures she is just a recursive 3/6 double striker. She doesn’t pull long games back by herself like bontu does.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Bontu doesn't do it by himself either, because you need permanents to sacrifice. Neither asks much to go crazy, but neither do it all on their own.
@Devynwithawhy
@Devynwithawhy 5 жыл бұрын
999th view!
@ethanbendler7352
@ethanbendler7352 5 жыл бұрын
Limited bombs that are all rare/ mythic? Seems like a pretty worthless list
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
There are almost never bombs that aren't rare or mythic, unless you use the term "bomb" generously.
@ethanbendler7352
@ethanbendler7352 5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic apologies for the harsh tone. I do enjoy your content. Keep it up. I just feel like if we are talking about bombs in limited, we should be talking about the best bombs you're likely to get. Compared to just the straight up best bombs
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
There are no uncommon or common bombs in this set.
@bradbradley3422
@bradbradley3422 5 жыл бұрын
Nissa should not have been on this list.
@09Dragonite
@09Dragonite 5 жыл бұрын
Why say?
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Could certainly be right.
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 5 жыл бұрын
Oketra is complete trash dude, i can hammer that card with decks from the last set which are far less powerful, decks are so full of decent removal and or counter spells in standard it's nothing to just remove or counter Oketra 3 times and any top meta deck will have ways to find that removal or counter by 5, trash card, any card that makes you want to instantly remove it because it's there only win condition is BAD (with the exception of Teferi which can protect itself with a counter spell), because you can so easily just do that.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
This is about Limited, other sets don't matter.
@andrewhicks6564
@andrewhicks6564 5 жыл бұрын
Not a top ten video, just a commercial for war of the spark...
@WhatSmada
@WhatSmada 5 жыл бұрын
Not a commercial, just a top 10 video
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic 5 жыл бұрын
You have a very liberal definition of commercial. If this is a commercial, then aren't all of my videos commercials for MTG more generally?
@WhatSmada
@WhatSmada 5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic wondering if he got trapped in an actual advertisement or something ? Lol 🏚
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