MTG - U/R Colorless Bounce Combo “$30 Budget” Modern Deck Tech for Magic: The Gathering!

[@TheManaSource]

ALTAR MILLS ONE CARD, NOT TWO! STILL WRECKS EVERYONE! SHUT UP! I’M ACTUALLY THE WORST!

[@__malte]

TheManaSource You can only repay us for this serious mistake by making another WORST CARDS EVER PRINTED IN THE HISTORY OF MAGIC EVER (ever)

[@justinbowman1342]

Only thing that makes up for this is worst cards ever.

[@chaoticklutz3633]

TheManaSource That's okay Wedge, least it's not as bad as when The Professor gets the dates wrong xD

[@ClampEEGEE]

Or the 5 million mistakes in all his Pokemon videos. Bless him for having a sense of humor about it in that Commander video, though.

[@TheManaSource]

DAMMIT!

[@thunderstruck560]

I like Pact of Negation in this deck for the non budget version. Its basically force of will, because if you ever had to pay for it, something has gone horribly awry. Its the combo deck Bff but nobody ever talks about it. It plays better than dispel because it lets you go off a turn earlier and that could mean the difference between life and death. Plus it also neutralizes snapcaster mage, when snap bolt can really mess things up.

[@SJRuibal]

If I recall correctly this was on an article on wizards official site awhile back. Lotta fun, glad you could bring it to more people.

[@lukeovermire7]

A friend of mine showed me this combo when the drone was released. Mirran Spy is another untap enabler. I like the golem with welding jar. Alter of the brood is good too. I was using Ornathopter and impact tremors, but I like this build better. Thanks for sharing. Might have to throw this together again.

[@rubilina1357]

I built this once, and it was a really fun deck. At least, when it worked.

[@andy4an]

i got clint cearley to modify one of my nettle drones to have a top hat, monocle, and suit. it looks SWEET.

[@cameronherrera3770]

You could also play grapeshot...... Super budget storm haha

[@Vigilanchovy]

Cameron Herrera That sounds fantastic

[@APyralis]

Cameron Herrera what would you substitute for grape shots addition? Four Banishing Knack, give you the option of playing either?

[@sutfolsemaj]

Laird Amadeus Kael W. Pyralis Altar or the enchantment, because it does what those do.

[@matthewblackston7621]

I have a red white and blue version using grapeshot

[@mikemckee3805]

My buddy has a version of this with retract and tons of 0 drop artifacts, kinda like the monk/puresteel deck. Great video Wedge.

[@Tha3l]

I like this, was thinking about entering modern for a while and as an Izzet player this intrigues me. But still, it seems really fragile. Come to think about it, I'd love some live playtesting with the final versions of deck techs, probably in a seperate video, to get a better impression of the deck.

[@fraser7211]

Ive been using a pure blue version of this deck. You can use things like Elusive Spellfist to one punch them into oblivion and Golem Factory where you would just create infinite 3/3 golems. Unless they have mass removal, which you can counter, they are dead. Mono blue means consistency due to no fixing needed and faster searching via things like anticipate or other 1 mana top deck searches, or include bounce to delay your opponent until the combo comes online. I will also note that my standard version of this deck was hilarious and fun when the Spellfist was legal.

[@nathankight9424]

With the release of Dominaria, Diligent Excavator could possibly be an additional combo piece.

[@matthewchalon1627]

This was my pauper deck... It can also work with Zephyr Scribe + Elusive Spellfist, a little harder to achieve but still functionable with preordain and ponder.

[@calebschultz4702]

You should call this deck "Heavy Nettle"

[@chivaking]

So good!

[@andersonjoshua18]

Stinging Nettle

[@Bahhizzle]

Caleb Schultz *slow clap*

[@ruudvanlaarhoven5776]

Zephyr Scribe (Dragons of Tarkir) works as Nettle Drone copy as well, it untaps when you play a noncreature spell, which Tormod's Crypt qualifies as

[@cyrilbodnar]

Wedge, this deck looks awesome. I was such a fan of RB Eldrazi Ping, so seeing this reminds me of my past love. Cheers!

[@TheTaleFoundry]

Probably worth running Mirran Spy over Battered Golem. The toughness is useful, and not being an artifact itself is very relevant in the face of Kolaghan's Command.

[@joeyboucree]

I've been playing a version of this deck for awhile now except I run 4 eldrazi temple which in some instances allow for a turn 3 kill turn 1: temple and altar, turn 2 red source and nettle drone, turn 3 blue source knack and jar and go to town. my deck varies with finishers as well. you can storm off with grapeshot.

[@Robochuck]

Love it! Love out of left-field weird modern decks that don,t break the bank. I have a brew that might interest you

[@taylorducharme5351]

Reckless Fireweaver can be used in place of or in conjunction with Molten Nursery :)

[@suneenough]

I chose to use Grapeshot instead because it's harder to counter.

[@joncalvert4690]

And this had to pop up in my feed two days before a modern magic origins box tournament.

[@davidfrance2915]

Gives me flashbacks to the Jeskai combo in Standard. Astral Cornocopia was a good pick for that deck.

[@evileyeball]

i made something like this when bfz hit standard. but i was using that eldrazi that reduced colorless costs along with clever impersonator to get my 4 cost golem that bounces a creaure when he enters play (from khans block) to go infinite. your combo is much easier. but I didn't have access to helix in standart at the time

[@Eggyism]

I am LOVING all these videos focused on Blue/Red decks. It makes me happy to be an Izzet player.

[@WrightJustice1991]

Looks fun, trying to find some gameplay of this kind of deck to see it in action.

[@ArtFord]

You forgot to mention Sulfur Falls when you talked about the land upgrades. It enters untaped so easily in this deck, it's crazy.

[@PlaneswalkerProject]

Since when can I buy into Modern this cheaply? This deck is dirty and I love it!

[@coolnobodycares]

Planeswalker Project You always could you just can't expect your deck to go far.

[@matthewblackston7621]

I have a red white and blue version using grapeshot

[@M0mentum11]

Cool deck idea I might try out in modern, since the current meta is lacking a fun deck that interests me. Thanks for posting it. :)

[@hombreg1]

MtgGoldfish! This sounds like a great "against the odds"...

[@shanehof1022]

Faithless Looting could be sweet as a budget alternative to Serum Visions as you can discard pieces you don't need like extra welding jars and draw two new cards, plus you can flash it back.

[@jordancali8881]

I have the serum visions already. I put everything in the cart and its about twenty dollars. THESE ARE PAUPER PRICES! ITS INSANE. Can't wait to play this.

[@MirridonOnslaught]

I can't wait to test this out!

[@Scopesightzx]

Did you ever consider Reckless Fireweaver as a damage dealer? It can come down after drone to leave you two mana up for counterspells, or can be an early blocker. I don't think it should necessarily replace Molten Nursery, but maybe as a two of in the main

[@zerokidd21]

I love your deck techs. How ever my friends like to play 4-6 player free for all. Could you do a deck tech on how to up grade your decks from 1v1 one to a free for all?

[@chrismintram9619]

I'm wondering if this could be turned into a Pauper deck. Only Molten Nursery and Altar of the Brood might need thought and some searching to find replacements for. Looks like a great deck though.

[@Juicylemons1212]

This is much cheaper than the $100 equipment deck that I was planning on building (from one of your videos I believe). I like it.

[@epictrueness]

I won a game at bfz pre-release with about 15 Nettle Drone pings. It was so awesome. I have to play this deck because it reminds me of that day. Also I have nearly all cards needed. Fnm here I come :D

[@Ukelay13]

spring leaf drum and maybe foundry inspector might be a good fit too.

[@Destral02]

I built this deck but i use ornithopters, apostles blessing (to get removal out of the way), and temple of epiphany. If yiu decide you put trample in there yiur kozilek can deal infinite damage as well. Reckless fireweaver can make this a turn 3 as well

[@devonharrison8167]

+TheManaSource why do you use welding jar over other 0 mamba artifacts?

[@themanacurve3452]

OH MY GOD THIS IS BEAUTIFUL

[@sidasdf]

The Mana Curve Fun fact: this is very bad against Faeries.

[@chrisbruzon811]

With a bit of tweeking, this could be Pauper legal!

[@Dusty2084]

What tweaks would need to be made? Ya know, for a friend.

[@itze_]

It already exists, guys. I am building it XD

[@KhronnuStar]

the pauper version will be Grixis instead of UR, just change these: Molten Nursery for Reckless Fireweaver Altar of the Brood for Disciple of the Vault Tormod's Crypt for any 0 cmc artifact Shivan Reef for Evolving Wilds Fix the mana(cause now there's 3 colors), and that's all.

[@Dusty2084]

Thanks much

[@johnderienzo1644]

Finally a non creature combo for pauper

[@thomasrobertson3190]

Poor Sleight of Hand :P I actually started building this when someone on Wizards put a list up. Maybe I'll finish it off and use your build. Helps Serum Visions have dropped. Though maybe I'll use my copy of Sleight of Hand to replace one.

[@stormchasermage2495]

what other cards can take place of banishing knack. because it's really hard to find in my country.

[@taylormccoy7517]

I didnt know u could use nettle drones ability n retraction helix ability at same time im kinda confused can u explain please.

[@voodoomupp3t]

would this work with ornithopers aswell? so you have a sort of defence line

[@TADMOORE]

Mirran Spy in the place of the Battered Golem, and also, Trinket Mages also helps a lot to tutor up the artifacts.

[@trumpetperson11]

Wouldn't someone just bolt nettle drone ? Or is their some way to stop it from dying other then one playset of dispels?

[@tempestandacomputer6951]

Hope they don't bolt the other creature...

[@CPD0123a]

That's why you have Dispel, or you bring in the Negate from the sideboard instead of another card in the deck to help if the opposing deck is going to run more stuff to kill it.

[@Yvon-]

Spirebluff Canal sounds like a good addition that doesnt cost a whole lot right now.

[@lucasegeland3143]

For another upgrade, you could replace dispel with pact of negation to save a mana

[@rojo101290]

What about everflowing chalice instead of welding jar, at least can generate some colorles mana

[@tineriusgracchus1165]

I have a suggestion, a all colorless artifact construct deck. I've been thinking about it since I got a Karn, Scion of Urza, but I have no idea how to do that.

[@TheRichardson711]

I just noticed banishing knack and retraction helix the other day and I was confused. I didn't know magic reprinted identical cards with different names. Are there any other occasions of this?

[@COHawke15]

Quite a few, actually. Searing Spear to Lightning Strike, Arenson's Aura to Teferi's Care, Blue Elemental Blast to Hydroblast, Evolving Wilds to Terramophic Expanse and (in most cases) Cultivate to Kodama's Reach are just some examples of "functional reprints".

[@dominicsevilla1189]

altar is in almost every single edh deck i own because of how much it just works with anything that plays a decent numbet of permanents

[@kroomiester]

hey, just came across this video and was wondering if their are any cool updates from more recent sets you can add to this deck

[@ScherlSimon]

Would you recomend playing Aetherflux Reservoir in the sideboard against Burn??

[@BarbeChenue]

Ancient Stirrings seems like a good potential addition: it hits the Altar, devoid eldrazi, 0 mana artefacts, etc. everything except the 1 mana blue instants. Seems fine. Edit: Yes, it's green, but it's an amazing piece of tech for 1 green mana.

[@davidfellner1776]

so you can activate the drones own ability plus the new helix ability with one single tap? I thought that in this case you would have to choose which ability you want to activate :o

[@CPD0123a]

Wouldn't another good combo piece, while adding another color of mana, be Jeskai Ascendancy? That's how the old standard version of this deck used to run, so would it still work here?

[@howieramig3247]

for the nettle drone combo is it a three card combo?

[@ihgamingihgamin0072]

Hey wedge you should make a deck tech over a modern infect deck. It would be really cool.

[@ihgamingihgamin0072]

I don't care about budget or not.

[@liamnesbit4332]

I'm thinking I try a version of this in pauper...

[@ppsilver7825]

Gibt es keine liste welche karte wie oft im deck ist ?

[@seismicsmasher]

i have this deck, but split molten nursery in half for reckless fireweaver, and run mirran spy instead of battered golem.

[@SecretShotgun]

What about Saheeli Rai, copying either one of the creatures or an altar?

[@wolfcane]

Would Brainstorm work in place of Serum Visions?

[@christopherstuckenschneide3183]

I always wondered why there wasn't more love for Tormod's Crypt. I got the card from the Khan's Raging Hordes or whatever deck and saw a 0 drop that absolutely destroys zombie/recursion/dredge decks in their tracks and it's only $0.20 and it's an uncommon. I guess maybe there's better options and that's the only reason I could grasp it's price being so low.

[@Lycandros]

What about that new 2 mana 0/3 that does damage every time an artifact hits the battlefield?

[@sebastiendog]

Might be cheaper but also less Modern viable due to the amount of removal you can find in that format. Also, a very edge case but you cast a colorless spell with molten nursery and even if it's countered it still deals damage. Another edge case would be that creature being enchanted with spirit link.

[@martypunker]

I have a version of this deck and it was great casual fun. Modern decks wreck it because your combo pieces have to sit on the board for a turn. Though, there's a little less interaction now than when I played it, so who knows?

[@cassie5248]

Could you do budget madness instanat/sorcery? Also, I would think ornithopter works would work better than welding jar

[@TheRealMadcreators]

You can use efficient construction for infinit Thopters

[@chaos5896]

Does anyone have an idea of what to add to the sideboard?

[@akoras3222]

I played a deck like this in standard back then with jeskai ascendency =)

[@joefaley84]

Couldn't you pull of the combo a turn faster with reckless fireweaver ? Turn 2 weaver, turn 3 helix and combo off

[@Migdog14]

Joe Faley you need something to untap when the artifact hits the bosrd

[@matthewblackston7621]

I have a red white and blue version and it goes off at turn 3 but possible turn 2

[@lunaristhomsen6941]

simian spirit guide in place of mountains for extra speed?

[@creepercraft1107]

What do you think about pauper storm using thermo alchemist, I can give you a list of you want, I would just like a responce

[@gillygoat881]

what's so good about about serum visions why do u need it?

[@suneenough]

Why does the deck run Welding Jar rather than Ornithopter?

[@grimbeefers]

Going to tiptoe into Modern...and I'm thinking of putting this deck together. Thankfully,, I already have a couple of Serum Visions from the Conspiracy reprint, as well as the Crypts and Shivan Reefs, and most of the BfZ Commons. Very cool, the overall cost to me is going to be about $13, lol. If I can win even a single game with it, I'll consider it a success, considering the price tag on some of those decks... As a Standard player, I also have some Spirebluff Canals. I think I'm going to slot those over the Swiftwater Cliffs. Question: Where is the Sideboard? I have no idea how to SB for Modern.

[@ackel113]

Wait when you tap nettle drone with retraction helix on it and you tap it it does 1 damage and returns. A thing to your hand?

[@ackel113]

Nvm

[@huntergottlieb3943]

Looks hilarious, I love it 😁 it looks like a perfect starter combo deck for the format. I'll stick to living end, but goddam is that purty.

[@1managainsttheworld]

Postmortem Lunge would probably be a good sideboard card against removal heavy decks!

[@collinsquier2402]

Wold this deck work well with Grape shot?

[@blinkanddie3397]

Can someone please help me out? If you put Helix onto Nettle Drone, do both abilities happen when Nettle Drone gets tapped? (1 dmg AND return nonland permanent?) Must be, just wanted to double check :)

[@chilly111]

No, the drone will have two completely separate abilities. You choose which one to activate.

[@TheTaquitoProject]

Since the deck is fast, spirebluff canal and shivan reef are really great as budget lands.

[@Theorak]

Came out not so dependable for me, is 2 playsets of the the combo cards really enough? I've thrown 2 Golems and 2 Welding Jars out for 4x Condescend, gives you another flexible counter with scry 2 and is still budget.

[@Theorak]

Just realized the Saheeli Ray + Liquimetal Coating Combo also works in this.

[@loganwalton265]

But wont this deck not work, the blue spell gives a target creature the ability to tap and return the artifact to your hand, it doesn't say when it becomes tapped. Meaning you'd tap nettle drone to deal the damage, and you can't tap it twice to both do the damage and return the artifact. Right? Because the blue spell shows the tap icon and doesn't say whenever the target creature becomes tapped.

[@CTimmerman]

That's addressed at 2:00, you need another card to deal the damage.

[@250Z]

For the mana base, maybe it's also good temple of epiphany

[@Destral02]

I use it

[@lilmojo3693]

Are there any good early play (1 or 2 drop) options that would be good for the deck? I really like it but I feel it lacks some protection it needs in the early game considering you don't do mucu

[@Migdog14]

Max Hanreck The deck is purely combo so early protection isn't too needed. You just want to combo. That's it

[@rowanlangford5310]

wow, you have made a modern deck out of my pauper deck... that wins a turn later

[@TheAnanaki]

Why no decklist in the description???

[@mtheoverlord7840]

Does anybody have a TappedOut link for this? I am thinking about gifting this to another MTG player, and the link in the description is not working for me.

[@Isolanporzellator]

I can't help but think the lack of haste means your creatures just die every time... Maybe Lightning Greaves? And if you have the money to afford a tricolor manabase, you can run the best modern legal cantrip in existence - Ancient Stirrings - to find every combo piece except the bounce instant.

[@grymgungus3933]

wouldn't ornithopter be better than welding jar since it can block in a pinch. not really sure why you use welding jar at all i guess in multiples it protects itself but that seems unimportant

[@TheManaSource]

Having the artifact be a creature makes it more susceptible to disruption and removal. Not worth.

[@grymgungus3933]

I didn't think about that, in that case is the regeneration ability more important than the very rare metalcraft on mox opal if you're not on a budget? perhaps you could run darksteel citadel to increase the chance of metalcraft without diluting the deck.

[@imawes0meable]

Would Darksteel Relic be good? it is harder to remove

[@jaggededge11]

While Relic is a harder combo piece to remove (Which is good), Jar has the added ability of protecting Altar or Golem from destruction (Which can come in handy when you have other 0 mana options in your hand).

[@meatrace]

But why welding jar?

[@mely8408]

you can do this w/ spider silk net, too

[@thesamuraiman]

Heyyy, I've got some of these. Might be able to pic this up for half the price.

[@NattixOMG]

okay so turning this into a frontier deck: Replace the Golem with Zephyr Scribe, The Jar with Cathar shield or Orinithopters & The Banishing with Jeski acendency? I dont really know what, any ideas? I also dont really see why the golem is better than Zephyr scribe I admittedly don't play modern but atleast with the scribe you can loot (for a small cost) to look for a combo piece and multiple times if you play any noncreature not just artifacts.

[@BEENOBAGamingWithBloodstone]

no ornithopter and impact tremors?

[@cdog719]

How about another Worst Cards?

[@TheManaSource]

nah ;)

[@ZendikarMage42750]

Agreed. There must be more out there and we need to know what they are!

[@matthewloser7567]

yeah with thousands of cards out there, there must be even more terrible cards.

[@thomasneumann5110]

Dude same.

[@patichchomjansandberg408]

hello does reckless fireweaver works?