MTG - U/R Prowess Competitive “Budget” Modern Deck Tech for Magic: The Gathering!

[@TheManaSource]

Got the math wrong on my turn 3 example. But hey...if anything, that just proves how great it is!!!!!

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

TheManaSource can you help me make my black graveyard deck better? Just comment with some useful cards or interactions if you have the chance

[@tammasdexter4291]

Oliver Gorgan what type of graveyard deck? what format? is this deck zombies, reanimator, or just a midrange deck? is this a standard deck, modern deck, commander?

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

Tammas Dexter it's just a casual, graveyard buff deck. For example, I tend to bestow a night howler on a creature, then languishing, and getting a huge night howler left over

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

Tammas Dexter standard

[@Nightmare-fe9hr]

I guess.... Not terminologicly inclined

[@TheManaSource]

Still dealing with a bit of a sinus situation, so apologies if I still sound weird. I appreciate all of the support and all of the love on a lot of our latest videos! Glad you're all still here ;) Also, this deck was marked as budget because based on the average cost of a deck in modern? This is budget.

[@admiralcasperr]

My friend runs it with nivmagus elemental, so its more proof for counter magic. Wins the race against storm and affinity!

[@AlimTetramorph]

I have a kiln fiend/ nivix cyclops deck that runs two of those in the side board. Nivmagus is great against tempo and permission strategies.

[@chrisva4268]

It's like you're reading my mind Wedge, every video for the past few weeks has been on a topic I've wanted to learn more about, I was just looking into this deck the other night as a way to hop back into modern (although last I played my meta is Abzan heavy, which might not work great with this deck)

[@justjoe8397]

Great tech Wedge! It makes me happy to see Monastery Swiftspear getting some attention. I'm trying out a R/W prowess deck atm, a t2 Titan's Strength on a Swiftspear is fantastic, all off a single Battlefield Forge. Also got Seeker of the Way and Lighting Helix for lifegain and Boros charm for it's amazing utility. Lighting Bolt's there too but honestly has the least impact.

[@TheArborphiliac]

I just beat Eldrazi Tron with this deck, thank you for the list! I'd seen Suicide Bloo builds but the mana base you use really keeps the price down and I rarely run into losses based on the life drain. After the bannings I've tried running Peek and Gut Shot in the Gitaxian Probe slot, and I'm also trying 3 Distortion Strike in the deck, maybe in place of Vapor Snag, Apostle's Blessing depending on the matchup, and a Sleight of Hand or Manamorphose.

[@TheGr3nadeboy]

This deck is great! I was thinking about getting into modern with Thing Ascension, but its too expensive for me right now. This is an excellent alternative for that deck, and if I have the money for it I can upgrade it as well. This is awesome! Thank you Wedge and thank you TheManaSource!!

[@moebiuseight7977]

You might also look at the vivid creek and vivid crag as replacements for the duals they come in untapped and can be tapped for 1 mana of any color twice as well as their normal mana base. since we are looking for a turn 4 win here that should be plenty to start the engine. this deck is gonna be hurting though if it misses a land drop. (the loss of probe really does slow down the deck by at least a turn.)

[@cyclopsboi]

I love this deck! its a great update to my existing lower tier modern deck, izzet blitz w/nivix cyclops. To upgrade to this version I only have to buy like 16 cards, FeelsGreatMan

[@ericjackman1143]

Other cards to consider for this deck: Stormchaser Mage: Flying with prowess for BR? Sure, I'll take it. Day's Undoing: Gives you a nice reset button for those longer, more arduous games. Probably more of a sideboard option. Delver of Secrets: Because you have so many instants and sorceries, he will flip easily. I think this deck was also known as iGrow for a while and had the inclusion of Tarmogoyf in some listings. This is honestly one of my favorite decks to play! It's so explosive and crazy, just like the izzet archetype. Nice follow up to the Izzet Philosophy video, btw. :D Thanks Wedge!

[@awarrior607]

Love the new upload rate! Keep it up Wedge!

[@solomonsomers7033]

Wedge, you wonderful human, you read my mind again. Yesterday, I was literally wondering about trying to brew a UR prowess Modern deck.

[@alexanderstorm6062]

When you play the Fiend on T2 and you'll have a T3 like you say in your example, it has to be 12 DMG x 2: Manamorphose: Fiend +3 = 4/2 Mutagenic: Fiend +3 = 7/2 AND +2 = 9/2 Battle Rage: Fiend +3 = 12/2 WITH Double Strike = 24

[@fendertelecaster8409]

12/2 with Double Strike AND Trample.

[@crimegay]

12/4 growth is +2/+2 aka growth in response to bolt.

[@alexanderstorm6062]

My bad. I forgot trample and the DEF +2 from Growth... Thanks guys...

[@mcsmileycorp]

I play this in pauper and I play assault strobe over temur battle rage, should I be spending the extra mana for battle rage, bearing in mind I have a playset of slip through space in there?

[@ErrantScholar]

Yeah I'd be playing Temur Battle Rage. It's great to have Slip Through Space and the similar cards, but at the end of the day it's better to have the two effects of extra damage and evasion that Battle Rage gives.

[@tylersluys8599]

I'm running almost the same deck, except i do enigma drake instead of kiln fiend and no swiftspear. Got some roast and send to sleep in there aswell. Doing Titan's strength instead of mutagenic growth. So far been working out really well

[@dawncluff9918]

i played a gwur prowess deck back just after origins came out when i wasnt playin tutelage i used solidarity of heros on hangar backs w the gw ajani it was alot of fun the red was litteraly for the 3 battle rage blue was really to access card draw green was soliddarity ajani n become immense and a card thats name escapes me target creature you control ggets +1\+1 then fights a creature you dont control..... brings back memories

[@proteus404]

Slip through space, has some usefulness in a prowess deck it has a low cmc, and works well with Thing and Kiln, and draws a card.

[@pervavita]

This is rather close to what I have been running now for a few months. I don't run Fiend or Growth but do run Pyromancers Attention and Become Immense with some counter magic in the side to protect my win cons. I also run 2 copies of wondering Fumarole if the game does go longer as an extra body to swing in with.

[@hisi420ent]

Awesome vid Wedge! Keep up the great deck techs!

[@jamesblakeslee7462]

Yeah this is like izzet blitz in pauper. I was wondering when people were going to play a modern version of this. awesome deck. it did some good work in the world magic cup.

[@DuncanEllis]

Temur Battlerage is an awesome card - it's one of the lynchpins of my pauper infect deck. ... but this strategy of throwing fast-growing creatures at opponent's faces is hilarious fun to pilot. The one addition I would offer would be Slip Through Space - it might be marginally too slow, but it's a one mana spell that triggers the prowess effects and makes the target unblockable. Then you draw a card. For budget reasons I might switch out Mutagenic Growth for Built To Smash.

[@JohnQueSacc]

Duncan Ellis i was thinking that, at least a 1 or 2 of as a finisher

[@michaeldesjardin705]

Duncan Ellis Apostles blessing, or 2 can make a creature unblockabe essentially

[@havenjb5416]

Duncan Ellis I was thinking about that,and was wondering;Slip Through Space or Distortion Strike?

[@JohnQueSacc]

Haven JB Id say Slip personally, the flashback would be great but getting a Temur battle rage on the draw for example would be better imo.

[@curtispedersen3779]

love it, pumped to try and throw this together

[@MasonzeroDigitalWorks]

My version of this deck is slightly different. But it's of my own making, I did not netdeck it. I focus more on attacking and combat spells rather than playing just a ton of spells. Instead of free spells like Gitaxian Probe and Manamorphose, I have Titan's Strength to work with Temur Battle Rage, and then my way of casting spells for "free" is with Pyretic Ritual, so I can keep on playing cards to trigger prowess. Definitely thinking of putting in Mutagenic Growth though.. Also since it is easy to just chump block against this deck if there is no Temur Battle Rage, I also put in a set of Slip Through Space. It's a cheap cantrip and guarantees you will get through blockers. And then one Past in Flames if the game goes long and we need to play all our cheap spells again. I have also been experimenting with white for Lightning Helix, and to forego the Phyrexian mana on Apostle's Blessing.

[@cheapskate4273]

Kid you are amazing. An even more budget version with almost same results *claps*

[@MasonzeroDigitalWorks]

I mean, Wedge's list is probably better than mine. I just like the spells that *do* something other than just contribute to the storm count

[@Bladius_]

Apostle's blessing in this deck can sometimes just read "make target creature unblockable". You'll need that over helix to push that last attack through sometimes in a clogged board state. And life gain isn't that important to you really. "Built to smash" is also probably worth looking into either with or instead of titan's strength Since it's +3/+3 over titan's +3/+1, but I do like the scry personally. I love slip through space, used it in my UR Prowess aggro deck in Khans/Zendikar standard and it just stole games, also consider distortion strike since it pumps and you get to recast it next turn for free.

[@zefishguy3029]

I have most of these cards from pauper UR delver and the standard thing in the bed decks I own. I think it's time to have a new modern deck.

[@washingmachinedoesntneedme4947]

i played this with amonkhets pumps. one of the best decks i've ever played. 1 turn kill as soon i had a chance.

[@Joe-nh8eq]

wow this is basically the first deck i ever made when kiln fiend first came out. good times

[@CPD0123a]

Don't forget it's cousin, the Swiftspear Rush deck, which is "mono" red and even more of a glass cannon, but can win on turn 2 if you have a god hand. Basically, you swap the blue cards and cantrips for giant strength and titanic strength, (or whatever the names of the 1 red, boost a creature +3/+something cards are) only have between two and a playset of gitax probe, playsets of desperate and pyretic rituals, and blistercoil weird instead of thing in the ice for a backup swiftspear, then a full set of the blessing for protection. I haven't run it in modern yet, but I do have that deck, and it is sooo funny how it either wrecks really quickly (usually by turn 4 if it works but is slow, but it can win turn 2, which is hilarious---ritual, ritual, buff, buff, battle rage on a swiftspear)

[@99pedropotter]

CPD0123a do you have a list?

[@trumpetperson11]

I find that playing the thing in the ice makes buffing my creatures very awkward, due to not wanting to return my minions before damage. I makes me feel that it doesn't really fits in this deck. I'm thinking about putting in some delvers for at least a few of them. What do you think about that idea?

[@zerrubabbel]

Wow! this is almost exactly what I run lol ... I play the legacy version tho... Ponder, and Brainstorm... also blighted agent, 3 in sideboard is awesome in my meta... This deck isnt great in multi player games, so guttersnipe is a good include too... I run Delver as well... I love this deck tho... it almost took first at my last FNM, and it beat my friends tier Miracles deck lol...

[@williammorrison1831]

thanks this deck looks awesome can't wait to play it

[@andriybasyuk5674]

Thanks Wedge! Been play testing with this, and it's been super fun! One game I actually got super lucky and won on turn 2 LOL... Also would do you think of Distortion Strike in this deck? I'm running 2 of them and they seem to fit nicely! Also, is there anyway in future videos you could post the deck list in the description? I had a hard time following the exact number for a few of the cards. Thanks, your Awesome!

[@kinosmead]

With a transformational sideboard this could easily become the modern version of "you forgot about fling featuring nivix cyclops"

[@Nixvram]

Since the banning of the probe. I'm thinking of removing 2 sleight of hand and the banned probe for 3 copy peek and 3 copy of noxious revival will do the trick I guess?

[@Aeroreido]

that feeling, when you run this Deck for almost 2 years and Wedge makes a video, talking about how great this deck is... feels great :D

[@ExtremeMusicPromotion]

competitively has only existed for 6 months. thing and bedlam being new cards, but this deck has been played with kiln fiend and swiftspear variants forever.

[@99pedropotter]

Aeroreido question: how you deal with protectin fiend? Do you put it in play turn 2 or wait until you can protect him?

[@rachskald]

I love these and this is not a real complaint, but since when is anything running 28 dollar playsets 'budget'? I think my definition of budget differs a bit from yours XD Anyway. great video! thanks as always :)

[@lestervaladez6127]

battle rage makes the feind a 12/2 24 damage not 18

[@Bladius_]

Just shows how powerful pauper is, this is basically my "UR Prowess" pauper deck with better lands. Then again that deck gets to play with pyroblast, ponder and preordain so it balances out. I think this deck can get hated out too easily by cards most decks are already running in modern though but as with all fast decks, you can kill them before they can get a footing with the right opener.

[@skylercahill3257]

I used to play a grixis version of this that played Death's Shadow and Tainted Strike for kills out of nowhere

[@PaulMB24]

I literally built a weaker version of this deck a few weeks ago before watching this video :D, but as I am a newer player, I didn't know all these nice cards and used Uncaged Fury from Shadows over Innistrad instead Temur Battle-Rage an so forth.Maybe its time for upgrades :D

[@JLPicard1648]

Wee Dragonauts, Spellbound Dragon, and Spellheart Chimera are worth considering, though they might be a bit too slow

[@giandja1]

Spellbound dragon is terrible in this deck.

[@globalgamer119]

For anyone looking for an even more budget version of this deck I recommend this list. 4x Apostle's Blessing 4x Gut Shot 4x Lightning Bolt 4x Mutagenic Growth 4x Temur Battle Rage 4x Titan's Strength Creature (12) 4x Kiln Fiend 4x Monastery Swiftspear 4x Stormchaser Mage Sorcery (8) 4x Distortion Strike 4x Gitaxian Probe Land (16) 5x Island 7x Mountain 4x Shivan Reef It's not as good and doesn't have things like manamorphose but it does consistently win turn 3. I find that gut shot helps as for 2 life we can deal 4 damage if we have a kiln fiend on the battlefield. Distortion Strike is a weird one but for those situations where you can't quite finish them off turn 3 the rebound will definetly help you win the next turn.a Titan's Strength is great in this deck as it pumps your kiln fiends by 6 power for 1 red and allows you to scry (Which is much less useful)

[@RogerRabbit123]

What about delver of secret, grim lavamancer or even isochron scepter? A these ones good options?

[@MrEvan1932]

Do you think Niblis of Frost could fit in this deck? It would synergize well with Kiln fiend, although somewhat expensive

[@purplehaze2444]

there is no link for the different land base with the fetches, if you could re release thus vid with the fetch land base in the description as well or tag me with the differences I'd appreciate it

[@xAshesxElitex]

Is "artful dodger" no good? Really enjoyed the card when playing a deck a bit like this.

[@brianwise5850]

ok wedge i must ask that you do a deck tech on breya specifically. why, because infinite breya looks awesome. there are several different infinite breya combos that the deck can run including infinite turns, infinite thopters, infinite life. even infinite mill. it has them all. and i would love to see your thoughts on it. is it fun, for you yes, for those around you, not so much. but it deserves a deck tech, especially after pieces for it are starting to spike, so lets get on this.

[@NoobRealms]

This is very similar to my monored deck. I use soul fire . Why worry about creatures when you can just hit their face with a big spell :)

[@MrKyGuy]

Man. Git Probe ban really hurt this deck. I've upped to 4 Sleight of Hand, and Enigma Drake is BONKERS if you go to late game!

[@moebiuseight7977]

final land mix i ended up with was 4 x COB, 4x Shivan Reef, 4 x Sulfur Falls, 3 x Island 2xMountain

[@erich4274]

Is there a decklist? i dont think that you said how many vapor snags are in the deck. i probablu just missed it but ...

[@gingerbreadman7729]

this is very similar to what I run. the real problem with this is the recklessness. I run it with more creatures, more buffs, unblockable, but no card draw. it basically wins with the starting hand so whats the point?

[@aRobotWithCancer]

Wouldn't T2 Kiln Fiend into T3 manamorphose, Mutagenis growth, Temur Battle Rage Be lethal? 3 spells is +9, +2 for Muta, +1 base is 12 power with double strike.

[@felste35]

What do you think about Death's Shadow right now? I know its not budget but i think they are very simillar. Which one is better right now you think?

[@narfidy444]

I have a budget prowess modern deck that is mostly made up of Oath cards and other things because I haven't been playing that long (I bought swift spears, and bolts). If you have a Jori-en ruin diver she slots really well into a deck like this, and really keeps your hand alive

[@ArdenDag]

This deck is basically izzet combo from pauper but with more consistency (via a couple cards and land base). Me likey

[@paulodechosa7154]

What do you think about ground rift in this deck? I think it would be good tbh.

[@timefortom4588]

Can you give a link from the deck with become immense please?

[@DrToadstoolSR]

can we get a deck tech for modern jeskai ascendacy combo?

[@doriankromer168]

When are you going to make the Atraxa Stax deck?

[@HansWurst-cm3wd]

Why are ther mor Island than Mountains, when there are more Red Cards in the Deck?

[@andrewlazar4804]

Could you replace some fetchlands and a shock land and replace with some budget options but still leaving this deck somewhat competitive? I am just looking for a sweet 80-100$ budget list and I feel like this could work whenever i see tarn in a list I just walk away.

[@mtggeeksgaming5064]

Andrew Lazar its modern man this is the cheapest your gonna get for slightly competitive.

[@andyanderson100]

I'm looking for a control-type deck in modern, is anything like that viable on the cheap?

[@chrisb8041]

Quick, when was wedge on screen last?

[@cassie5248]

Aqueous form might help kiln fiend.

[@tomasbevirt2421]

I have a similar deck, but I use Turn and Burn, Gut Shot and Artful Doge. Ralph Zarek in SB for longer games. Thoughts?

[@levialbert3631]

Tomas BeVirt Ral seems really bad in modern. this deck does not want to go long. board in more removal instead.

[@tomasbevirt2421]

Yeah, he's been in there for a long time. Time to move him out. Thing in the ice would be the best replacement

[@janmakal2445]

Any ideas to replace Gitaxian Probe since it's banned ?

[@ninjasquirtle5264]

What would you replace probe with?

[@anthonysumerel969]

I died at the "flip our popsicles" comment xD hahahaha

[@dantesingleton1906]

Okay, I am a beginner at buying cards online so I need some help. I clicked on the link, and at the top of the page it said the low price was around 70 bucks. Does this mean I can purchase the deck for that price?

[@LoLGames199]

why mutigenic growth over brute force?

[@XxDarkSimorghxX]

Hey so do people think this would be good in a Jund focused meta local? Most of my local players play jund and Grixis control, but i feel like this is a dog to those decks. Am i wrong?

[@epicazman5691]

will aqueous form fit well here?

[@tylergarfinkel5807]

can you do a modern deck tech on naya burn???

[@Gavolak]

I play a very similar deck, but with niv magus elemental and then a bunch of 0 cost spells.

[@eddyeddy2257]

David can u link the list?

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

I like the version of this deck that runs Pyromancer Ascension and tries to kill using replicated lightning bolt and helix.

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

Oh right... dredge...

[@klqc4915]

What would you replace gitaxian probe with? Love your vids ;)

[@Knyghtmarez05]

Help. What do I play in place of gitax probe?

[@ChewyMorales13]

Knyghtmarez05 peek

[@MrKyGuy]

Knyghtmarez05 Play more cantrips. Up Sleight of Hand, and I've seen Thought Scour as well. I've also seen Swiftspear dropped in favor of Enigma Drake.

[@outlastcommunity4229]

Wedge, when I click on the link for the decklist it says: Blue/ Red Deck ( or something else whatever) by TSM Wedge. What does tsm means?

[@MathiasAndana]

Sish TaouK I'm guessing team solo mid? lol

[@outlastcommunity4229]

Matías Andana lol I don't think so...

[@outlastcommunity4229]

Matías Andana WEDGE TSM??? OMG

[@ChewyMorales13]

Soooo gitaxian probe is banned, what can we use in place of probe , what about Preordain

[@tempestandacomputer6951]

Preordain is banned.

[@hubertcumberdale7241]

If it's not banned, mutagenic growth.

[@ChewyMorales13]

Hubert cumberdale it's already in the deck

[@hubertcumberdale7241]

+Samuel Morales Cruz derp. Then idk.

[@rubena6132]

Thought Scour should be the chosen

[@TheTexasDice]

Is Nivmagus Elemental still a card?

[@ashzciwobuz1277]

I might be over thinking this but why not mana confluence instead of city. if your opponent can tap you city you take damage if they tap the confluence you don't

[@99pedropotter]

Ash Aman way more expensive. By that logic, why not use fetchs?

[@Hungarth]

That feeling you get when reasonable budget Modern is no longer in the double digits.

[@TH3M4X48]

Note for people interested still in this deck Gitaxian Probe has been banned since this video came out.

[@jfunk7506]

I like that deck I have a lot of the cards already

[@codyjones9116]

This deck pretty much always loses if you opponent cast thoughtseize. I've been playing this deck for about a month now

[@dielabtec7882]

This is just izzet blitz from pauper isn't it ?

[@Angustheoldchap]

what about adding some delver of secrets? o:

[@frankywils5349]

I play this deck and love it, I run 3 of Fling out the sideboard, and that's some funny shit!

[@kaylalosch7272]

Why no Stormchaser Mage?

[@kinosmead]

Compared to the other 3-4 creatures stormchaser isn`t nearly as good for the deck

[@timw9745]

Not that good for a turn 3 kill

[@Chojisenpai]

No Distortion Strike?

[@vandir4719]

why aren't you playing Slip through space?

[@CrimsonFox36]

Blue-icide?

[@Cindoof]

Yes Always yes

[@StarskySTARS]

Isn't scalding tarn kind of pointless? You could shave a lot of money off and just run 4 Bloodstained Mire's alongside the Strands.

[@Genderkaiser]

no delvers?

[@user-vi4sn9eh5l]

what do I replace gitaxian probe with

[@Nixvram]

You can replace probe with peek and noxious revival

[@user-vi4sn9eh5l]

Thanks

[@Tree3D]

I don't understand why everyone calls it Suicide Bloo. Why not just Blooicide?

[@pops91]

isn't this delver blitz from pauper?

[@silverfangmoonhunter]

This is almost exactly pauper blitz

[@tigerwarrior1787]

Main difference, Pauper is common rarity only, this has uncommons and rares, so it's better for Modern, since Pauper won't allow such things.

[@prolix4667]

No Grapeshot?

[@viniciusortiz7543]

The moment you realize suicidd blu became the most dominant deck in modern after the phoenix

[@AJB-jr6ll]

No Cascade Bluffs??

[@ixion567]

i hate the manabase of the nonbudget version. but it is going to be xmas soon, so scalding tarns, here i come!