Kozilek vs Phage vs Krenko vs Vial Smasher | Ikra EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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MTG Muddstah

MTG Muddstah

3 жыл бұрын

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@The3OfSwords
@The3OfSwords 3 жыл бұрын
Hello!!!! This is your reminder to thank the Canadian for such entertaining and flawless content!
@MTGTheStack
@MTGTheStack 3 жыл бұрын
We worship our blind God
@owneyw4374
@owneyw4374 3 жыл бұрын
Love your name
@The3OfSwords
@The3OfSwords 3 жыл бұрын
@@owneyw4374 Thank You I'm still waiting for permission to convert back to my original name though.
@The3OfSwords
@The3OfSwords 3 жыл бұрын
Muddstah's blind!!!! ohhhh that explains his awful threat assessment! JK LoL we still love you #gobllinarmy
@AffinityForCommander
@AffinityForCommander 3 жыл бұрын
There's something extremely satisfying about Muddstah playing a goblin deck. A true flavour win! 😁
@Devilish420
@Devilish420 3 жыл бұрын
*generic goblin noise intensifies*
@ivernedit4132
@ivernedit4132 3 жыл бұрын
Goblin go SMORC
@alexstoltz1520
@alexstoltz1520 3 жыл бұрын
This game actually infuriated me. Why were people attacking each other/rolling dice to randomize attacks when someone had 40 life and a board full of goblins/ combo pieces!?
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 10 ай бұрын
@@alexstoltz1520 If Kozilek attacked Krenko, Andrew would just sacrifice some meaningless goblin tokens. It was way more valuable to hit the other players who valued every permanent they had. Tokens counter edicts.
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 3 жыл бұрын
"Kozilek" is an ancient word for "ARCHENEMY".
@malign3158
@malign3158 3 жыл бұрын
Why was frank worried about getting ill will? He’s playing eldrazi and there’s a freaking goblin deck at the table which he could have set back at least a turn. Instead he rAnDoMlY attacks the least threatening opponent at the table. I don’t get it. Not to mention the goblin deck is at 40 life... Edit: This is not meant to bash or hate. Everyone has their own play styles and it’s easy to judge when we’re sitting here, no table-talk context and no insight into what their play group is really like. I personally don’t believe in random attack rolls (unless the card says so) but of course other people are going to play differently and have fun doing so
@Slack-3R
@Slack-3R 3 жыл бұрын
Was going to say the same thing. Own your decision and make appropriate threat assessment, dont rely on chance.
@amethystwyvern
@amethystwyvern 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Kozilek player, I have to be mean if I want to win. If I go easy, I'm targeted and focused out. If I go hard, I'm targeted and focused out. Might as well fuck shit up if I'm going to be Archenemy.
@corhydrae3238
@corhydrae3238 3 жыл бұрын
Rolling the dice to determine a target for that is a meaningless try to absolve yourself of responsibility. But you're still responsible for the outcome since you chose to leave it to chance. I only roll the dice when I'm attacking with a turn 1 1/1 into an empty board or something, but not with a fat eldrazi.
@alexstoltz1520
@alexstoltz1520 3 жыл бұрын
Just commented something similar. You do not let a player with full life and a board state just sit back while you attack the guy missing land drops without any creatures out!
@BangThatGong
@BangThatGong 3 жыл бұрын
Rolls the dice not to be mean. Randomly hits the target that it would be the meanest to. Looked like most my mono black games here
@stol5251
@stol5251 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Frank deserved to lose that for that extremely poor threat assessment and lets be real, rolling dice to see who you attack is a cop out.
@gdiridium5525
@gdiridium5525 3 жыл бұрын
rolling dice is acceptable if it's turn two and you're swinging a llanowar elves because you dont have anything to spend the mana on. It should absolutely not be acceptable if you're swing something as impactful as Ulamog. I can see this game going a lot differently had frank used his head and not his dice
@TripleBMusic
@TripleBMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a cop out, but ot was a poor decision in this game. He should have at the least, left Harry out of the roll because he was so far behind.
@erik.pajula
@erik.pajula 3 жыл бұрын
I hate dice rollers, especially with a clear target (Andrew). Don't play cards with salt if you're afraid to pilot them. I wish Trevor would have demonstrated his win.
@benyura
@benyura 3 жыл бұрын
@@TripleBMusic I was going to say this.
@ncuco
@ncuco 3 жыл бұрын
Even when attacking w an elf It's 1 damage Just attack who has more life or who won last game. No biggy
@fabio.n4458
@fabio.n4458 3 жыл бұрын
when you come for the one deck that gets punished hard af, rip Queen Phage.
@magiccardmaster9921
@magiccardmaster9921 3 жыл бұрын
I like how everything that happens in the game is mentioned nice for new plans helps with complex combos and stacks 👍
@tsho6131
@tsho6131 3 жыл бұрын
Love Trevor’s deck. A pile of synergies and interaction is my kind of 99. Can’t fault the “early” scoop. Been in that chair before and it’s not fun. Great game overall!
@oORoOFLOo
@oORoOFLOo 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is actually very disrespectful to your opponents when you roll a die for annihilator attack. Especially when there is a guy who is massively behind, krenko with board and mainly a fully ramped combo deck ready to go off... Don't leave threat assessment to a die people, please.
@nicolasporretta4533
@nicolasporretta4533 3 жыл бұрын
The way frank bends his cards is giving me anxiety
@MTGTheStack
@MTGTheStack 3 жыл бұрын
That nasty ass assassin's trophy
@Quroe_
@Quroe_ 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Pyroblast's targeting corner case matters! That made me happy.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
Yea! It was super niche, but I was a big fan.
@MTGTheStack
@MTGTheStack 3 жыл бұрын
Awwww yeah baybee
@dess8815
@dess8815 3 жыл бұрын
So when is the next vid guys?
@CyberBuster93
@CyberBuster93 3 жыл бұрын
The way Trevor threw down his turn 1 land was SAVAGE xD
@whitekittenvideo
@whitekittenvideo 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you passed with kranko up instead of just making tokens and blowing up a bunch of artifacts proactively.
@90spepe
@90spepe 3 жыл бұрын
This was a very entertaining game!
@orohyuno
@orohyuno 3 жыл бұрын
"Most people say he shouldn't scoop" What people? Any player may scoop any time, for any reason. If someone is scooping for you to not gain something, like let's say, lifelink, if the table is healthy the remaining player can agree to account that anyway.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
Some people don't think you should scoop because you never know what you'll top deck into. I've seen several comments along this line in the past. As I mentioned, we all felt it was fine for Harry to scoop when he did.
@andrea9342
@andrea9342 3 жыл бұрын
Scooping for denying an opponent a benefit he would have gained is a scummy move, we don't allow it in our playgroup
@orohyuno
@orohyuno 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrea9342 Like I said, you can't deny a player to scoop. But the remaining players may allow the benefit to happen regardless.
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 3 жыл бұрын
You cant stop a player from scooping, yes. But it was the right call to confirm with the group. It changes up combat math and Frank would have had to swing one more time giving the other players more time to prepare.
@Andreasws24
@Andreasws24 3 жыл бұрын
Scooping is fine, but I do prefere it to be at sorcery speed.
@jordancourtney9142
@jordancourtney9142 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hillarous how expensive a foil 9th edition fellwar stone is
@Abraktil
@Abraktil 3 жыл бұрын
this vial smasher deck was fun to watch
@therubyskeleton1002
@therubyskeleton1002 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids mudstah! Also, I was wondering if you were ever going to bring back the deck techs? They were awesome!
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
I am! I'm actually working with some of the people I play with to do their narrations for decks that they've built which people enjoy seeing.
@therubyskeleton1002
@therubyskeleton1002 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I can’t wait😁👍🏻
@Leinadtrebo
@Leinadtrebo 3 жыл бұрын
I hope for dr Martin and his azorius deck
@torinwilliams4671
@torinwilliams4671 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the commanders and knew i was in for a sweet game, phage looks fun!
@Spidermanfan937
@Spidermanfan937 3 жыл бұрын
Good game . I wish you were able to get chieftan during the game to make it a little easier to get more goblin tokens .
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, haste enablers really make the deck pop off faster.
@nanoacido5174
@nanoacido5174 3 жыл бұрын
5:44 ouch!
@fredcrinson2715
@fredcrinson2715 3 жыл бұрын
This was another fun game to watch. Shame about the Phage deck not being able to show what it can do.
@ericr4677
@ericr4677 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know a whole lot about edh still learning and definitely don’t know about cedh . It’s the a reason mudsta didn’t tap kranko for doubling tokens? Especially after he gave all his goblins haste? Was it Etiquette, a misplay or not wanting to attract attention? just wondering?
@xeago
@xeago 3 жыл бұрын
WOOOO
@johnweinhandl8890
@johnweinhandl8890 3 жыл бұрын
Any one know where I can buy harry's playmat?
@connorl0204
@connorl0204 3 жыл бұрын
I was pretty bummed to not see how Trevor actually won.
@henrilitor1646
@henrilitor1646 3 жыл бұрын
Generate a lot of mana with rude awakening loop and dump it into an X spell.
@TCG9777
@TCG9777 3 жыл бұрын
I see Phage, I clicc
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
Valakut Awakening... I should try that one in my Tazri 2 deck.
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
I *highly* recommend the card for almost any red deck.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah I also feel it's thematic, for a party deck, using mostly ZNR cards.
@WhyDoIHaveToHaveAHandle_s
@WhyDoIHaveToHaveAHandle_s 3 жыл бұрын
Where's the deck list for Kozilek?
@princeodd
@princeodd 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed all the chicken commentary.
@loganhoppe7234
@loganhoppe7234 3 жыл бұрын
Trevor played that land rather... savagely.
@Leinadtrebo
@Leinadtrebo 3 жыл бұрын
He slammed it
@wintersoldier909
@wintersoldier909 3 жыл бұрын
Frank's dumbass: I don't want to be mean so I'll roll for who I attack. Everybody: attacks Frank.
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 3 жыл бұрын
Hedron Archive for life!
@frostyplague8897
@frostyplague8897 3 жыл бұрын
Frank I want to see your decklist
@andrea9342
@andrea9342 3 жыл бұрын
Is Trevor playing on the floor?
@duo317
@duo317 3 жыл бұрын
Is that frank from East Coast in NJ?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea where he plays. I just know him from Family Fun Hobbies.
@plain6677
@plain6677 3 жыл бұрын
That’s very unfortunate Harry couldn’t find lands despite the good draws. 38 lands is good enough in mono-black usually.
@MTG_Brewzl
@MTG_Brewzl 3 жыл бұрын
Kozilek deck list?
@gabriellalmeida6414
@gabriellalmeida6414 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see too
@JBeleren
@JBeleren 3 жыл бұрын
Phage the Real Commander Damage
@yoshiman9521
@yoshiman9521 3 жыл бұрын
i dont feel bad for phage player. just looking at his hand i saw it was unplayable and am not surprised it didnt work out well. 2 lands, a sign in blood that you cant cast, and an 8 drop is not a recipe for success
@masalpert
@masalpert 3 жыл бұрын
Might have misheard but I think you said Frank tapped Fellwar Stone for colorless, it can't do that, he should know.
@jeffnorris211
@jeffnorris211 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the first scoop in the history of muddstah entertainment?? I don’t blame him though.
@therubyskeleton1002
@therubyskeleton1002 3 жыл бұрын
Also, I’m trying to make an elf ball deck any tips?
@marvellegacy7677
@marvellegacy7677 3 жыл бұрын
what are the colors of the deck?
@therubyskeleton1002
@therubyskeleton1002 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of doing a golgari partner pairing of Miari and Kamahl, for the elf support and the overrun effect.
@marvellegacy7677
@marvellegacy7677 3 жыл бұрын
​@@therubyskeleton1002 edhrec.com/commanders/kamahl-heart-of-krosa-miara-thorn-of-the-glade /i recommend this page from edh.rec. but for my opinion look for cards that create elf tokens that are low mana curve elves. and look for good overrun effects that give trample to your team. and don't neglect deathtouch, it works wonders with trample.
@therubyskeleton1002
@therubyskeleton1002 3 жыл бұрын
@@emerson685 thanks lol ;)
@goodguyshuckle9270
@goodguyshuckle9270 3 жыл бұрын
elven warmaster is a new card that should not be overlooked. It can make tokens fast and has a good pump effect for you
@FunkyMeerkat2000
@FunkyMeerkat2000 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 frank shoulda taken 4
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 3 жыл бұрын
Yep should have been out of the game for awhile
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
You'll notice he actually drops for 37 to 33, which is four. My narration was wrong.
@FunkyMeerkat2000
@FunkyMeerkat2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah Ooo I missed that. Mb
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 3 жыл бұрын
ah cool beans
@taylorlarson593
@taylorlarson593 3 жыл бұрын
Kozilek list pleeeeeeeeease!
@DeliriumTr3mens
@DeliriumTr3mens 3 жыл бұрын
Can a charitable soul tell me how does that vial ikra win combo worked?? Thx!! Awesome game too!
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
Basically it's a combination of cards. Most often it involves the transformed Primal Wellspring which allows him to get two copies of a spell. He'll typically use it to cast Rude Awakening or Mana Geyser to get a ton of mana. Trevor will often then use Seasons Past to return what he needs from the yard. The final piece of the combo is a tutor to allow him to go and find the Seasons Past again, since it puts itself on the bottom of his library. Once he has enough mana, he'll cast a giant X spell to kill the table. I hope that helps!
@TechtonixZi
@TechtonixZi 2 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping Krenko would win for this one.
@thelocustgod9098
@thelocustgod9098 3 жыл бұрын
I want some chicken tendies...
@afspeellijstnaruto
@afspeellijstnaruto 3 жыл бұрын
Never let Trevor live. In a game of commander at least
@elliottdeboer8888
@elliottdeboer8888 3 жыл бұрын
chicken tendies
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 3 жыл бұрын
Hope kozilek or phage wins they are awesome commanders ( :
@mleet3125
@mleet3125 3 жыл бұрын
Until this video, I would never have even considered looking at the rulings for Phage. The card was plainly written, and EVERY OTHER TIME cards reference 'from your hand' means exactly that. Never would have expected phage too be a commander.
@salvatorestabile5547
@salvatorestabile5547 3 жыл бұрын
There's ways around her ability
@hobonaz59
@hobonaz59 3 жыл бұрын
clearly andrew should of been the target for ulamog lol
@danriemer9724
@danriemer9724 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand when people roll the dice to see who to target or attack. If you’re going to run cards that do powerful things then own it. If you feel bad for attacking someone with Ulamog, then pull it from your deck.
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad winning with combat damage so I don't win with combat damage often.
@bobby45825
@bobby45825 3 жыл бұрын
@@wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs That's called "playing for first". Why would I bottom feed and go after last or 2nd to last place? Makes no sense.
@Rasmussen2750
@Rasmussen2750 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldnt i be a hit for 4 cuz trash master is in Play?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
It was. I narrated poorly.
@F3A5T
@F3A5T 3 жыл бұрын
rolling a dice to see who you attack is a coward's move. If you have a mean boardstate, use your mind to see who is your biggest treat and attack that person. When Frank rolled and attacked Harry the person with the worst boardstate and the least likely person to win, was a waste.
@suntitan4419
@suntitan4419 3 жыл бұрын
Second
@MTGTheStack
@MTGTheStack 3 жыл бұрын
14th
@ElusiveOtter
@ElusiveOtter 3 жыл бұрын
7:08 “Harry draws two and wishes he still had his Gilded Lotus.” Translation: “You get what you fucking deserve!”
@caseywellington4761
@caseywellington4761 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. He just got mana-screwed out of the game. No one likes it when that happens
@lucasbareis-golumb2388
@lucasbareis-golumb2388 3 жыл бұрын
ELDRAZI CRAVE CHICKEN TENDIES
@condemned70
@condemned70 3 жыл бұрын
Good game, shame about Phage
@Garl_Vinland
@Garl_Vinland 4 ай бұрын
Vial smasher did you dirty. You should of let Frank kill your opponent then finished Frank off
@user-eh5xn2eo9w
@user-eh5xn2eo9w 3 жыл бұрын
"Impact Tremors"? More like "Doesn't impact Travors"...
@another-dude-named-michael
@another-dude-named-michael 3 жыл бұрын
I'm eating chicken tenders while watching this. Frank has good taste
@xNemesiSxPR
@xNemesiSxPR 2 жыл бұрын
meeeh goblins, dont have a change against those decks. they are just too small
@ButzPuff
@ButzPuff 3 жыл бұрын
Wait...Wouldn't Phage kill you as soon as you try to play it as your Commander?
@BusinessGiraffe
@BusinessGiraffe 3 жыл бұрын
There are some janky ways to get around it like lich effects, command beacon, or cursed totem effects that stop etbs
@DarkEinherjar
@DarkEinherjar 3 жыл бұрын
You can either put it in your hand from the command zone (Command Beacon, Netherborn Altar), end your turn in response to the ETB (Sundial of the Infinite) or have an effect that stops you from losing the game (Platinum Angel, Lich's Mastery) to get around it.
@Zenondikar
@Zenondikar 3 жыл бұрын
Or spicy mode, counter your own commander with withering boon to put it in the graveyard, then use a gravedigger effect to put it into your hand then cast it 😂 I love Phage and have a deck myself but she's janky at the best of times
@kingfuzzy2
@kingfuzzy2 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zenondikar that's the only way I've seen here played and it's beautiful.
@Foubeljacob
@Foubeljacob 3 жыл бұрын
1. Tell Frank I'm blind from all that nice bling. 2. Also tell him to maybe not swing an Eldrazi at a player with just lands and poses no threat? Just saying. 3. Does Trevor own like twenty copies of each shock/dual/check land or does he cycle them around based on the deck he's playing. Great content as always, Muddstah!!
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
1. Will do. 2. Frank is a monster to begin with, so this is par for the course. 3. He owns dozens of shocks and checks. Only one cycle of duals though.
@germanyjones2700
@germanyjones2700 3 жыл бұрын
Victory, or chicken tenders. Frank’s got it right
@jpaguilar17
@jpaguilar17 3 жыл бұрын
What would Trevor use to finish the game at that little life? Wouldn't you get to play another turn?
@MTGMuddstah
@MTGMuddstah 3 жыл бұрын
He's able to make infinite mana at the end of the game and tutor for whatever cards he wants due to Seasons Past returning a bunch of stuff to hand, and Rude Awakening untapping his lands twice per cast with the Wellspring.
@Ghaespar
@Ghaespar 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel, but man this dice roll attack is almost as shitty as Game Knights diplomacy :D
@jordankindred2
@jordankindred2 3 жыл бұрын
9:38 shouldve just tapped krenko and then played bushwhacker last so more creatures could enter combat with haste and killed him
@corhydrae3238
@corhydrae3238 3 жыл бұрын
But Krenko only had haste due to the Bushwhacker. He couldn't have tapped him beforehand.
@Trainwithseb
@Trainwithseb 3 жыл бұрын
Left the chat after someone rolled for an ulamog attack and took someone out of the game. Gross. I am out.
@tywill31
@tywill31 3 жыл бұрын
Die rolls, concessions ...I play against this crap on spelltable all the time. This die roll perfectly illustrated why doing so is moronic. And early concessions, come on, have some etiquette, have some respect for people's time.
@bobby45825
@bobby45825 3 жыл бұрын
Dude was down to 1 land. You're suggesting he should hang around while being in last place and then getting rolled by annihilator while the other 2 players have clearly stronger board states? That's NOT a fun game for the mono black player. That's not playing for first; that's just playing to participate.
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