MUAY THAI VS 52BLOCKS comparing notes

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[@studiogeek1]

This discourse in the comment section could be so useful to all without the insults. For some commenters just one point. These gentlemen put themselves out there and offered a peek at their art to everyone for free. Why would anyone feel the need to show any form of disrespect? A reasoned discourse would be fine but this makes us all look bad and dumbs down the conversation. Like a true martial artist, take what you find to be useful and don't utilize what you don't. If you can offer something helpful, do it with respect..... like you probably do at your training facility. Let's see more intelligent discussion and less childish insults. If you can improve upon what is being shown, get your camera out instead of your computer keyboard. Stay Classy fellas and big respect to the guys who put this up and the people who add to the conversation intelligently.

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE..LGD

[@ShoDaBrave]

They cannot understand how two fighters of different disciplines can come together and have a healthy and very productive dialog about what each system offers and what can be improved upon by picking up techniques from the other system. This is something that they fear. A positive, peaceful collaboration between systems and black men. The neigh-Sayers can say what they will but we see in the video how effective a combination of 52 Blocks and Muay-Thai could be. Respect to both of these good men and what they are trying to show the world.

[@thedroidish]

studiogeek1 The key word studio is intelligence, some folks just don't have it.

[@Blacksheep-b6k]

I’m loving your videos dude, with your voice I can’t believe u haven’t been approached to be on radio or tv

[@rightknowledgeman]

They’re stupid and crazy, they can’t help themselves

[@ThePoorBoy]

I really feel that the strongest starting point on the feet is developing your boxing. And then add 52 and Muay Thai, and to really spice things up for street fighting, throw in Jeet Kune Do, Kali (especially for the weapons), and Savate. I think that these arts were made to eventually find each other and flow! Great videos!

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE

[@michaelhampton5828]

I agree what about some grapling art also, i understand there some grappling in dumog another filipino art.

[@saderrick15]

My power combination is boxing , 52 , kali , wingchun, Muay Thai , and wushu 🙏 🙇🏽‍♂️

[@769roadhog]

Great job in showing respect towards each others art. As always, it's not just the art but how the individual expresses that art.

[@sflores1985]

You add those Muay Thai shin kicks, knees and clinches to 52 will make it a very deadly art.

[@nugget22gil39]

52 is no art its boxing

[@Anthony-qe5bp]

Boxing is an art, just like Jiu Jitsu or BJJ...try walking into a boxing gym with zero experience and spar against someone that's been there for years and you will get rocked no questions asked. A closed mind doesn't belong in the martial arts world.

[@harontownsend1887]

@@Anthony-qe5bp well said

[@berserko2008]

@@nugget22gil39 dumbest comment I've ever seen posted..... Chinese boxing Ving Tsun (Wing Chun) an art...... you will die if the avid practitioner doesn't restrain himself properly........

[@berserko2008]

@@Anthony-qe5bp very much agreed on......

[@TheShadowlin]

all the haters annoy this Shaolin guy. You don't understand shit... no style has it all. For example, both the kicks and the punches to body can be neutralized with distance, angle changes, mixed timing, and ironbody (just eat the hit to get a headshot). That's not the point. They aren't comparing who's more badass. Their comparing structure and analyzing holes. Thanks for the vid. People are so disrespectful, damn.

[@52blocksinfo]

+TheShadowlin SALUTE

[@BigTee-im6dp]

TheShadowlin, styles makes fights there's no Supreme Style like you said... Speed and Power has won more fights then just skills alone...

[@mathieujolliff951]

TheShadowlin Sometime fam it don’t even pay to waste your breath. You might just be throwing your pearls to swine. I mean c’mon, these slow muhfukas couldn’t see what they were doing in the video, and THEN they explained it in FULL detail at the end of what they were doing. Some people see what they wanna see. Drop your jewels on someone with some common sense and intelligence.

[@charlesjohnson7354]

You are right a true martial artist respect all martial arts and martial arts is away of life to many people l Iike to judge other arts and just thinking about beating someone up when it's not about that

[@darkdragon99]

And that's how you evolve a fighting style well done fellas.

[@keijipatton443]

Man I've heard about 52 years ago but didn't get interested and then after doing boxing for 7 years and then saw some dude in professional Boxing use it decide to look it up and I was fully surprised by how comprehensive and how real 52 was much respect and props to you guys

[@52blocksinfo]

he kneed me in the clinch...and he pulled the elbow strike.. REMEMBER people this is a demo

[@malcomhuey]

Its funny because I always used 52 Blocks in my fighting style but never knew there was a name for it. I also use a few others, including Muay Thai. I thought I was being creative and just being a smart fighter. LOL guess not. I really enjoy the 52 Blocks. I actually find it very useful.

[@sAmZy1993]

Great analysis as usual Burly! I particularly liked the way you caught his cross with the tip of your elbow blade....TEXTBOOK.

[@meroe365]

The blending of two of my favorite styles!

[@mathieujolliff951]

ALL MARTIAL ARTS MUST EVOLVE! Every good knowledgeable fighter understands stands this fact. A fighting art can’t survive if it doesn’t adapt and grow. There’s always somebody out there creating something new and better, that’s the reason there are so many different types of martial arts in the world because there is a natural need for humans to always want to do and be better. Martial arts should be treated just like technology, it’s always improving getting better... evolving. Appreciate the video bruh. Keep rocking those knots with the 52Blocks

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE...APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND WISE WORDS

[@mathieujolliff951]

52blocksinfo Love and respect

[@Blacksheep-b6k]

Loving the videos, plus you got a voice born for radio and tv. Keep up the great work

[@52blocksinfo]

Wow, thanks!

[@xxDimitriOwnzzzxx]

I've been watching LB' s Videos for awhile, and incorporate a lot of 52 in my shadow Boxing, Muay Thai in My opinion is an Art that has Competition, as well as slef defense elements. MT has been around for Many years as is battle tested, I believe that 52' s practicality will make its way into to competitive sport Genre.

[@gregoryperez1023]

That evolution, once perfected, would rank this with world class fighting styles. That's my opinion.

[@a.10daveteran60]

Im a army veteran but grew up in a urban area (Hood). But what people really fail to realize is when you're in a martial art or self defense system. You get what you put in.. So if you dont train or don't work on your art or craft then you're going to get weak results. You cant cheat yourself because one day your health or life will depend on it. I would love to learn 52 Blocks in Columbia S.C. so I can bridge the gap as the were showing in the video with Krav Maga and Shotokan Karate. Definitely would be great to add in

[@craigbignell576]

your videos are good theres always room for improvement in every aspect of life this is true modern martial arts i like how you say bridging the gap

[@marcleon1513]

No teeps? I would have loved to see how 52 counters teeps. For those who don’t know. Teeps can be used offensively or defensively. It’s equivalent to a jab except you’re using your feet. It a whip like motion to establish range. Boxers are dangerous up close because they have many angles. The teeps keeps them back.

[@52blocksinfo]

true story...i thought about bobbing underneath,but i try not to take my eyes of my opponent when im bobbing and when i ducked the kick my eye were looking at the ground so i decided to try to block it,but your are right standing in a kickers arc of power is very dangerous,an most fist fighters won't see that..VERY GD COMMENTt

[@seansean2878]

52blocksinfo . Do you do any body conditioning? A good part of Thai boxing is body conditioning. Training your body to be able to take punishment. Sometimes you can’t dodge or hide from shots just gots to grit your teeth and defend! Also clinching, you have any scenarios to grab your opponent and take him down?

[@52blocksinfo]

sean sean hell yea yessir training is conditioning an yes in fights you will be hit that’s what sparring is for an nope you can’t defend against everything so you must get use to being punched kicked an choked

[@seansean2878]

52blocksinfo yep I hear that! My ethos was the more you get beat up in the ring by guys that know how to fight and hurt you that the easier street fights would be! Lol

[@52blocksinfo]

sean sean lol 😂 yea sometimes the beating up just teaches you how to get beat up it’s defense that teaches you to strike back an. When to

[@FightStrategistMMA]

I noticed that when Nak was throwing his kicks, LB was staying in the arc of the kick. The first kick is avoided @ 1:01 and the second kick connects @ 1:04 not so much because your in kicking range but because your're in that arc. The head kick @ 1:10 do you think you could have bobbed underneath if you recognized it sooner?? Also, the closed door block works wells there. I use a angle sidestep/ quarter turn technique to get out the of the arc of the kick against strong MT fighters

[@KS-wj7to]

Great video! Thank you brothers for sharing!

[@Depekkey]

I just found this style doing some research today and I really dig it. Watching this, and other videos, I see elements of the Philly shell, Muay Thai, JKD, and Western boxing. Very cool, I love at the end where you say that 52 has kicks now because shows that it's not a rigid, closed system.

[@52blocksinfo]

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[@bkfitnessandcombatives8658]

Keep up the good work guys. As an instructor, I get sad at all the nonsense I see out there. It's nice to see a couple of guys who know what they're doing sharing some sound knowledge...

[@52blocksinfo]

bkfitnessandcombatives SALUTE .many thanks for the positive response

[@DinkTheProfessor]

Great vid.Coincidently we were discussing this in training last night fighting off the traditional thai "marching" type footwork rhythm let the opponent get used to that then switch to a cakewalk style of moving,to throw off their timing.also how the bicycle step is similar to the switch kick set up ,so they dont know if you are going to kick off it ,step off and change punches.

[@christopherlamar9285]

Much Respect And Admiration Brothers, From Atlanta Georgia wish y'all would do a class here

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE

[@nostyle9169]

They forgot to mention that muay thai is also heavy on elbows, and big brother there was nice to hold back and not use any!

[@evadesc]

Excellent topic. Would be great to see a followup vid in the future with both your findings. I showed your vids to a wing chun friend and there seems to be some similarities. Im still struggling to implement the skull and crossbones into my sparring what vids would you recommend for a beginner?

[@aerospike00]

Great lesson brother! I do Shackle Hands and I can see how 52 can be incorporated into the style. Much appreciated.

[@armzjct4368]

I am a muay thai fighter from London 16 years the information was very useful I will try to use that Style in with my fighting definitely make it better

[@seansean2878]

Excellent!! More like this please!

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE

[@DinkTheProfessor]

or the little draw back with the lead foot then drive back in to throw the right kick that some thai fighters do using that a few times then telegraphing it to draw them into a counter and push off it to angle off and punch,also you have to be careful with the slipping to much off to the side and level changing can get you clinched and kneed.lots more when you start analysing the timing and movement of the two styles LGD

[@dnah02]

good vid yeah it makes a lot of sense add the 52 principles and techniques to make the muay thai more adaptable

[@gastonm9243]

any 52 blocks practitioner or anyone whose base is boxing and would like to take their boxing further pass the punching should definitely look into the panantukan system. a dirty boxing system developed in the Philippines it applies boxing techniques with kicks, elbows and locks.

[@CottonBoxer]

ur absolutely correct it would give 52 B's added practical arsenal and round it out more for sure. Yet, this video is exactly how so many of the traditional arts evolved from multiple arts that had various methods of both training and applications. they combined them to make a new martial art. BRUCE WAS HARDLY the 1st. to do this as widely/falsely touted. This was done far before bruces time. fact as long as folks do this we can find new solutions and different methods that suit us where as others may not be practical for us personally to use. many ways to skin a cat. if your way works it;s best for you and if you test it against others of similar skill level we find out the pros and cons of or respective arts . when can then make adjustments as has been done in MA since forever.

[@gastonm9243]

Bruce didn't introduce mix martial arts. Every martial art was already a mix martial art. All evolved from different confrontations. That's why martial art is a living art. The 52 blocks is an American version (I feel still in it's infant stage) of the Filipino dirty boxing Panantukan. The 52 blocks has potential to grow

[@CottonBoxer]

all u said is true but i said it and u repeated the same in your own way.no comparison between dirty boxing because of all the methods that are used on the regular in dirty boxing. so though 52 is still in a stage of evolvement it's not fair to say it's a young dirty boxing because they are simply not close enough to each other in so many ways as u should know imho. sure everything has the potential to grow and that is why this video and what they were doing is important and must continue as i already stated. peace

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE

[@amirnorton2987]

I totally agree

[@TheBlazicans]

adding the Teep kick to 52 Blocks would be very effective. Be elusive at close range and then use the teep to keep/regain distance when needed.

[@52blocksinfo]

yes I USE THE TEEP KICK..its like a jab of the legs

[@TheBlazicans]

Yo that's what's up bro! I figured you probably incorporated it into your style, seeing how you also incorporated wing chun and footwork to it. I got respect for you and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. You're definitely a martial arts pioneer/innovator on par with Bruce Lee and the Gracie Family.

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE..appreciate you

[@gastonm9243]

handling kicks is a real problem for boxers but can be negated to half strength by stepping into the kick at a crucial point of the kickers release and stepping into it with a jab whether you hit them or not will cause the kicker to pause for a sec and in martial arts that second will gain you the momentum you need to survive that situation. easier said than done but like anything it takes lots of patience and practice

[@P-BURLY]

Great Demonstration. 🥊🔥🔥🔥🥊🥊🥊🥊. Respect

[@mmafightcoach]

Very good attitude to the evolution of a martial art. Bruce would have approved!

[@bizzothagreat]

Lyte you moving like Ali brother good work as always

[@52blocksinfo]

YOUR comment got me shadow boxing an feeling like ALI..THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT

[@angel132100]

funny how folks wanna get mad when u point out a weakness of their fighting style but are quick to throw out why their style is superior to everyone else, where can i learn 52 i live in Atlanta and i ant to see how i can fuse this to my capoeira

[@52blocksinfo]

so true...send me a message

[@Kinos141]

I was thinking the same thing about 52 and Capoiera. Also, add in BJJ and I think that will be gold. I would like to keep my martial arts as afro-centric as possible.

[@angel132100]

is BJJ afro-centric

[@Kinos141]

angel132100 It's from Brazil and they're mostly black-portuguese, so I guess so.

[@angel132100]

just curious, you know capoeira wasn't from brazil either

[@raortiz73]

Kicks are always dangerous for arts that mostly use fists, ie boxing. But kicks also leave openings to those who are ready. The question is not what style is better, but how to adapt your style to handle areas of "concerns" that another style might bring. How would a wrestler deal with Muy Thai? How would a boxer deal with a wrestler? Think of answers and you have started your journey.

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE

[@ryandickershaid279]

@52blocksinfo Traind in a few different martial arts including Muay Thai. Firstly I love the hand movements with your style. Secondly, i noticed when you changed the level of attack that you were able to throw body shot with ease but what happens if he starts throwing elbows when you go to that level? For training that I've done as soon as someone drops for body shots I throw out a "tomahawk elbow" ontop of their head. Dont know if youve got a defence against that or not, just found 52 tonight. if you dont might be something you guys would like to incorporate or strategise against. btw so far im loving the videos you guys have!

[@fernandomendoza798]

I like what you have going on with the art of 52 blocks. I also like boxing, but I never had a chance to practice it. I did olimpic tae kwon do for 8 years, and I can tell you that when an aponent would lean forward like a boxer a kick would be hitting that chin. I just want to help out maybe my advice can help you improve your defence against kicking. I could tell a secrete on how to get your hands and arms harder to stop a kick and not break your arm or hand. any way I like what I see hope you keep making more videos.

[@jesusestrada4669]

what's the secret on not breaking the arms n hands?

[@Sharustar813]

With my understanding of 52 blocks is that it's a defense system that can be added to mainly strikes of the hands and elbows but also can be useful to get kicks and grappling in too. In 52BLKS also, people must understand it's about deceiving the eyes and with that understanding you can make 52BLKS useful in any Martial Art.

[@52blocksinfo]

CHERCH...TALK ABOUT IT

[@asmithee3561]

no front kicks, no clinch, no punch combos? no kick & punch combos? not a good comparison here

[@52blocksinfo]

the dvd can help you with that...the first dvd goes over that...and the key is not to do as as a static or tensed move... it has to be fluid

[@nodayoff1000]

a person stands will tell you what style or foot work is a tell tell .but space and foot work and persistent strikes can win any fight

[@TheSteadyGrounds]

Yo. You can use the 52 Blocks Style to close the gap for a successful clinch. An you can use the 52 Blocks style elbows to heart a punchers fist. And I would love to add that when a boxer ducks down you can direct a downward Lethwei elbow/Muay Thai Sok Tang(Downward Elbows) to the top of the temple

[@52blocksinfo]

yes YOU CAN..SALUTE

[@blackmanhulk605]

Excellent stuff Lyte,UFC fighters should learn this.

[@Miklog78]

Started off boxing for a few years now heard of 52 back then just never cared to research it til a couple weeks ago as of a year I been doing muay thai as well implemented the skull and crossbones in sparring and it works wonders not amazing at it by a long shot but I got the basics of it even with just boxing sparring i typically use the Philly shell style but adding some 52 with it works great also most punches just hit the elbows

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE FAMILY

[@thedroidish]

Thank you Burly, from Houston, TX. I find your videos informative.

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE

[@lsporter88]

Righteous.

[@FortressMT]

thanx for keepin it real!

[@hometra1n1ng]

Punching is a very big part of Muay Thai also because they set up the heavier strikes. If you can not change the level of punching, it is not the Muay Thai art, it is the person that does not know how to punch.

[@andrewferris1903]

No, they’re not, traditional Muay Thai never even used punch techniques and the scoring system in modern Muay Thai doesn’t favor them. You’ll only see punching heavily incorporated into European styles of “Muay Thai” in K1 which forbids elbow strikes. LB’s 52 is too tied to conventional boxing compared to Diallo Frazier’s 52 or more refined combat systems like Panantukan, the system was never designed to be used with gloves and it’s purpose was to exploit bare hands with a defensive system and then counter with elbows at close quarters so they couldn’t do the same thing to you. This is why you see so much variation on the style between the prison and the street, in the prison there was more Kung Fu influence because people didn’t have the space to box. The premise that 52 is a purely defensive art that can be adapted to any offense is inherently wrong, because no one even considered checking kicks in prison. You can call what you’re doing 52, but the reality is the current application of the art on the street is far removed from the jailhouse rock of the 70s and at some point you will begin to see the techniques thru’ the styles as a martial artist.

[@razorslice99]

could you also do a video of 52 blocks against a good ITF Taekwondo fighter. dont sleep on those guys also. the video was great. alot of people commented on the MT stance but I believe that he was using MT for the streets compared to ring style. please keep up the good work. I enjoy all the vids

[@dBest2everdoit44]

I appreciate you answering me back. I'll practice it 👊

[@CybertroninfiniteOfficial]

what's for discussing this, I love muay thai, but I like to combine 52 blocks with it.

[@chrisallistar8007]

LB the answer for muay thai cross 52 blocks is in the footwork brother. Your 52 footwork is on point so if your further your understanding of muay thai kinetics you'll find your way.Keep it up killer!

[@whatif718]

respect to both of you gentlemen. i admire the open mindedness. thats hard to find these days.

[@xalian17]

The muay thai dude bested the 52 block guys over 85%. Watch it without sound

[@otrwushurichard381]

i remember this vid from back in the day - love it great stuff

[@Mharriscreations]

Though it's obvious y'all were taking things easy, I think this video is a great illustration of how each art has its own strengths and weaknesses. Each art has holes and counters that others can exploit and strengths that can be used to overcome weaknesses of other styles.

[@52blocksinfo]

truth ..all styles have them

[@mr.serious3709]

Here's the thing I'm NOT seeing in this video but it's being talked about a little. The synergy between boxing and muay thai is incredible and it's a matter of just being comfortable and understanding how closely related the systems are. I'm practiced in both (boxing traditionally and self-taught muay thai) and I can tell you that the movement, the foot work, the shots and timing all work damn near identically plus you get knees and elbows to work the shortest possible ranges; using those specific tools with a boxer's finesse at that range can be devastating to an opponent. Also if a pure boxer comes in at me and tries to go low, he's catching knees everytime.

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE,like the comment but one question I always have is why do you think you can knee a boxer when he is ducking?

[@mr.serious3709]

52blocksinfo good point, let me explain. Depending on the HEIGHT of the duck, the boxer will either catch a knee or a low kick to the thigh/knee area. Not all ducks and feints are exactly uniform so the response to them won't be either. I spoke too generally about the particular situation, I hope this elaboration cleared things up.

[@52blocksinfo]

YES great clarification.SALUTE

[@Midwest51344]

Good shit even 7 years later

[@kobiesboxing4956]

Instead of him just incorporating some kicks into his arsenal he also should add some kick defense into his style.

[@ejjrb0505]

Now, much respect here b/c you guys showed the weakness of styles with makes a better fighter when you combine styles...

[@52blocksinfo]

Shut it up,an got pop an lock something

[@themasterebrooks7136]

Every ART has a weakness someplace in its structure. Especially when the practitioner is lacking knowledge of what his or her own weaknesses are. Moreover = According to how the limbs are generally used when punching everytime one punch is thrown in close quarters a line is open for a counter. However in order to pull it off you must be knowledgeably keen enough as it relates to the action at hand with the understanding of timing an opponent's move upon bridging the gap. This is an ART witin itself and takes years to masters. Now In respect to kicking which is a low base and more powerful selective energetic means of exertion than the hands no matter if you're on the defense or the offense as the aggressor the chances of being telegraphic is likely to occur because the leg tool is a larger object when unleashed depending on how it's used and the range from which it is launched. This is exactly why FOOT WORK is essential and should be thoroughly included in your way of training. When FOOT WORK in any fighting Art is well developed and has reached an advanced stage through frequent dedicated training then your motor skills will become the helm of geographic control which is functioning with ability to offset your opponent's attack no matter what art or style nor system their discipline may consists be. The 52 method of fighting clearly provides the practitioner more advantages along these lines once the distance is closed since it is rooted with the applications of a boxer. Kicking is a great and powerful weapon in fighting but from a tactical perspective hands quite naturally move much faster on every immediate angle and unlike kicking the hands alone doesn't always require the use of real estate in order to subdue an opponent. In this footage I can clearly see that these two BROTHERS have a tremendous amount of respect for each other and are mindful of their position as they demo from one point to the next. Yet in an actual combat situation no one with such abilities will be as passive making this method of teaching just an awareness for beginners to learn how to work on improving their skill level against a different style of fighting!

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE

[@52blocksinfo]

i can assure you. NAKMEEZY IS PURE MT..check his videos he is the real thing..LGD

[@dBest2everdoit44]

My question about the skull and crossbones.... Is when you throw the elbow up and the hand comes across. If a person throw a punch. Couldn't it push the fingers back and break em'? Or can you make a fist instead. After all, every block won't be perfect...

[@52blocksinfo]

yes I did a video on that you can defeintely use a closed fist

[@shaunajefferson9909]

That's what uncle Bruce talked about.

[@christopheclugston]

I like what you are trying to do--and, yet, if you come to Thailand you will find the guy you used is not fighting how they will fight you. DUcking and bobbing will definitely get you knocked out--you won't be able to jab like you normally do (it's a big hole that will get you really hurt).

[@52blocksinfo]

well this was a demo,and if you fight you know this..lol..WOW.AN secondly the guy I'm using trains in THAILAND.BOOM..THANKS FOR COMMENT

[@christopheclugston]

Boom I' live in Thailand fought in Thailand 19 times, world wide 75 times--but if you don't want to listen, that's on you

[@52blocksinfo]

Ok I guess we have to take your .lol...an It was you who stuck foot in mouth..if you would have asked I would have told you he trains in thailand but you assumed

[@christopheclugston]

One of us and it's not you is a recognized World Wide authority--try to do a lit review before speaking--you probably won't so good luck with your small world experience (I think I get the hostility within the 52 mythology)

[@52blocksinfo]

You recognized world wide an your going back an fourth on youtube with someone who is not.who IS THE fool here. .lol..that's like mayweather aruging on youtube...lmao..#your exposed

[@davronshumpert5072]

Thats not a thai boxing stance. Your using a kickboxing stance.

[@diphyllum8180]

No, hands up high like that is very typical of Muay Thai. They use the knee to defend the midsection against kicks, but generally have poor midsection defence against other attacks than a straight kick, as shown here.

[@davronshumpert5072]

+Michael Vipperman I have study mauy thai his stance is more American verison of Kickboxing

[@diphyllum8180]

Davron Shumpert Can you go into more detail? Do you mean his footwork, his hands, or both?

[@garryechoe3269]

Shut up daveron you couldn't do the Macarena

[@davronshumpert5072]

+Garry Echoe lol Bet!

[@Realtalkyou08]

Yeah but when he threw his kicks and bows, I didn't see you throw any heat his way to slow him down at least.

[@DaMonStith]

Great video! I am going to have to come to NY and kick it you guys! Da'Mon ATX

[@kg8281]

The skull nd cross bones block is used in muay thai. It's called a Dracula guard and it's used to transition into punches and elbows. Also muay thai fights transition to the clinch where you can knee, elbow and throw your opponent. changing levels against someone who throws knees and kicks will only get you knocked out. A muay thai guy doesn't care about getting hit with punches to the body. They've been conditioned from knees and kicks to the body already. 52 is a great technique against punchers but you can't block knees and kicks with your forearms for too long

[@manolo_mandrill9266]

I like this borrow and respect 52 with muay thai kicks some scary business

[@steellionstrength2709]

If you combine them, its a very effective stand up game

[@52blocksinfo]

yup

[@52blocksinfo]

FOR ALL COMMENTS SAYING THE BIG HOMIE IS NOT DOING MT HERE IS HIS CLIP IN THAILAND GETTING THAT WORK IN WHERE IS YOURS???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4K2nJR5jKd4ldk

[@Nam3l3ssOn3]

These guys talk like they aint never heard of Bruce Lee and JKD which is essentially what they were saying at the very end

[@marc96ish]

@52blocksinfo your the truth my man I respect the style of 52 after all it is related to boxing the blocks are Amazing and very effective

[@joe1max]

Changing levels in muay thai is dangerous because of the kicks. Muay Thai fighters 'change levels' with their feet. If you change levels on a Muay Thai fighter you are going to eat their kick. While not always true the 'rule of thumb' muay thai is the feet handle striking the armpits and below. Hands are to the head. Yes, MMA gloves were made to protect the hand so that you could hit harder. Without gloves you would change you punch entirely. Look at the way the travelers fight for bare knuckle punching. There are parts of the world that still train bare knuckles.

[@nickfry7839]

you should watch some benny the jet urquidez for some more ideas for boxing against muy thai

[@tigerclaw8454]

Everything helps; tailor the martial-art that works for you. Very few martial arts teach offensive attacks for the street. A street-fight is more complex than a game of chest and last only less than 15 seconds. Thai fighters hands also with their kicks go for the knockout . I have seen some good Thai Fighters go into other martial arts and incorporate the new art what they learned into their system. So the question is: What do you want to learn for whats in the street, competition, traditional or MMA? Me - I like the Street because that's something you can take home with you, outside your class. EXAMPLE: You could be going home and someone doesn't like you and wants you beaten-up or wants your money so he can score a fix or a bunch of people wants to play the knockout game and wants to rape your girlfriend -- then what? I think that's what Martial Arts is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

[@docriley79]

man dude I really like your videos!!!!!!! I saw you had a dvd for sell, I want it!! but I think at the end of every video you should show an ad for the dvd and how to get it!

[@52blocksinfo]

You are correct an you can find it at lyteburly.com

[@AlwonDomz]

I'd love to see 52 get more flashy... Turning away to exit sets up the spinning back elbow or back fist... MMA fighters like Jon Jones use this technique efficiently... A guy named Yuri Alcantara rocked a guy named Brad Pickett with it to set up his submission... If you read this 52 I'm no expert I would just love to see what you could do with it

[@52blocksinfo]

AlwonDomz SALUTE.ive read it and agree

[@kedjr88]

ok this is the one thing I have to point out is the the guy using Muay Thai is that I didnt see a clinch or knees thrown with all that ducking the guy would catch a knee easy thats thai fighters dont duck under punches cuz of this

[@razorslice99]

That was nice work with those hands.

[@chrisallistar8007]

in addition brother muay thai (good coaching) teaches something called 8 limbs this would be like skull n bones using knee to elbow this stops the 52 middle punch without compromising structural integrity.BLESS.

[@kramepilef]

The knee to elbow is also how I learned to block kicks.

[@factsandstats8813]

The Angles and distance altering of 52 is amazing...

[@52blocksinfo]

THANK YOU for the very observant comment…LGD

[@fernandomendoza798]

it's amazing what that dummy does to your hands. I remember sparing with a law enforcement college trainer in savate , then he told me I feel like I'm kicking your legs when you block my kicks with your four arms. lol that felt good.

[@52blocksinfo]

conditioning is a. big part

[@chosenpa]

u guys are good but my only question is why are you doing a boxing stance when ur doing muay thai. also you are throwing right straits. a thay fighter throws a punch to set up a kick or a elbow. great vid

[@cliffmcdonald3591]

The art itself can beat 52 but I am proud to see you both good job.

[@52blocksinfo]

thank you but arts don't beat men, but men do so its hard to say who beats who

[@MarlinsPhinsHeat13]

Cool vid. Good stuff from both guys.

[@HmoobWC]

If 52-blocks uses 3-fist's styles together like: jit-jiu-siu/muaythai,brazillian ground grappling then it can become very deadly!!!

[@52blocksinfo]

52 blocks defense can be used and merged with any style

[@SIRINI100]

watch and observe ..add what is essential to your technic .reject what is useless.. Bruce lee lots of years ago....all martial arts have sthing to offer in fighting and not only martial arts... lots of styles of dancing benefit your moves when you fight ...you already know that for sure .. Thank you for sharing ! Peace!

[@Docinaplane]

I like your 52 techniques. I wonder how you would deal with Muay Thai straight knees off of either leg when you close the distance, especially with how low one gets their head with the bob and weave 52 style?

[@52blocksinfo]

Docinaplane I have yet to see a knee catch a bob a weaver you would have to almost be telepathic the level change happens way to fast the person bobbing an weaving would have to leave his head there

[@52blocksinfo]

Docinaplane an the best way to handle must Thai kicks is training in Muay Thai

[@Docinaplane]

Thank you very much! I'm going to incorporate your material into what I already do the best I can :-)

[@52blocksinfo]

anytime sir...GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU...LB52

[@fernandomendoza798]

jesus estrada , from my experience, in tae kwon do many fighters would break their four arms when blocking a powerful kick to the face or body. some would dislocate their wrists. so we would practice blocking with the wooden dummy. the one they use for wing chun. I was able to block kicks from heavy weights, and I'm a welterweight. you can also make your own wooden dumy. I made mine with about 50dlls.

[@52blocksinfo]

yup had a wing chun dummy he was my fruend for many many years

[@52blocksinfo]

an im a wing chun practitioner

[@ultralordd7625]

He didn't use the teep (front jab kick) that's a very effective weapon to add in.

[@Meatwad787]

Ultra D Man... and the teep can touch the face down to the thigh. Doing different things depending where out lands.

[@austinfunk2607]

Also, the was they block is just ridiculous, use an arm shield, otherwise ur just gambling on ur chances of getting knocked the fuck out

[@christianangelogayo5600]

though it wasn't muay thai he used, I would like to think that if muay thai and 52 blocks merge, you would have both superb offense and defense.

[@52blocksinfo]

TRUTH