WING-CHUN HAS NO LONG RANGE WEAPONS

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[@IzzoWingChun]

This is why we are looking forward to having you out! We know this is a very common problem with Wing Chun and why our school trains differently. All the best and see you soon! -Dominick Izzo

[@Chibi_Bendrix]

We might not have a long range game, but we do have long range tools. The front kick, the side kick, oblique kick, stomp kick, etc. These are the tools I would ideally use to deal with boxers, particularly the stomp kick to the lead knee. Hyperextend a knee and you rob them of most of their advantages over a Wing Chun man (Superior mobility, punch power, range control). Makes closing the gap a lot easier. Mind you, like everything else in fighting - it isn't a full proof tactic, but it does work. With that aside, I agree with the rest of your video completely! Your outlook and your art is realistic and refreshing. I'll be honest - you're the only practitioner of 52 blocks I can take seriously because you actually know what you're going on about. Please keep posting great videos!

[@jazz0914]

Another classic clip from Coach Burly and that break down of the science behind the art was was priceless. PEACE

[@52blocksinfo]

i would say with the use of the jab you can connect into your wing-chun range.i like the straight blast just not from way outside the range..thanks for the comment

[@bugs4680]

I've got the opportunity too see 52 in a Massachusetts state prison supermax , I didnt know it at the time , great job

[@christophers3224]

The second form is called, Chum kiu which translates to, "searching for the bridge". It introduces shifting and stepping, as well as some defensive and offensive kicks. It also allows one to get familiar with and learn their reach.

[@dariusdynamite]

And make sure the "friendly" contest and demonstration is recorded and posted on KZbin. As a boxer AND a novice Wing Chun practitioner, I would love to see the combat/real-time application of both styles, and how I can improve the techniques of both!

[@52blocksinfo]

wing-chun kicks are trained from chi-gerk which is train close not long range,so the kicks are not designed like MT kicks,they are stop kicks which have more effect up close

[@mrmushin1]

Focusing on close quarter combat Is a strength and demonstrates the high level of experince and intelligence the founders had when crafting a system

[@christophers3224]

I'm a practitioner of Wing Chun for 24 yrs. My experience is that twisting the torso to jab, do crescent kicks, side kicks, ect.. leads one to "over-commit" because the distance one has to travel to strike the target multiplies. First you move away from the target only to recover the distance. If you're in Time Square on your way to da Bronx WHY would you travel down to 14th St. first?!

[@NAKMEEZY]

@sifupr there are long range, mid range and close range weapons. Teep( push kick) is long range. Round kick (properly thrown with shin) is mid range. Elbows, knees, clinch and off balancing techniques are close range. Peace

[@52blocksinfo]

i think you answered your own question,having a long range games means you can stay on the long range,bridging the gap to fight short range is NOT a long range game..but thanks for the comment

[@52blocksinfo]

and the matches were def good contact they fought hard...as you can see in the close range the wing-chun man clearly lets his hands go,,and does his best work inside the gap

[@LFJ]

WC's long bridge comes from Biu-ji but is used for situations where we can't close into the ideal range effectively. The very first movement is to keep an opponent at bay if we perhaps only have one operable arm. There are also strategies on how to stand and move just outside the boxing or kickboxing range until we can affect a way in. Don't look for weapons because both opponents are out of range to strike there. It's the strategy in operation to deal on the outside and get in.

[@kenlek869]

Exactly the same problem for Baguazhang and Taijiquan as a fighting art - practitioners are unable to bridge the gap and make contact with the opponent's arms, so all the sticky hands and push hands training goes to waste. Your solution to use boxing to close the gap is very good.

[@52blocksinfo]

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[@glennomac7499]

I like what you have to say, and agree with you in the context of traditional wing chun. Like any art, wing chun needs to constantly evolve, and has evolved. I'm pretty sure the developer of the system started out with a handful of ideas and built on them. It's not like they would have said, hey, let's start a new martial art with all these specific techniques, forms and principles. Somewhere along the line, there would have been trial and error utilised in its development. Using a boxer's footwork and slips to close the gap and create distance can greatly enhance wing chun. Now, I'm no master of any discipline, and always refer to myself as just a beginner, or a white belt, but I know a thing or two about fighting. I had a third dan in Zen Do Kai challenge me once. He was a site supervisor at a job I was doing, and he was boasting that he had beaten up some guy, and that he could basically destroy my knee using pressure points. Dumb, because I was meant to be working for him, so I didnt see the point. Anyway, he had heard I trained in muay thai, and asked if i did, and in usual form i said, a little lol (though he didnt know what else I had trained in, but he found out the hard way) We were drinking after a hard day at work, and all were drunk, and he challenged me to a sparring session. I kept declining, he kept persisting, til eventually I got sick of him and decided to accept. We found some floor space, and while the other workers watched, he got into a boxers stance. I just stood there chill and relaxed, hands hanging by my side. He asked where my stance was, and I said, Im in it. He went to a classical muay thai stance and said, well, how about we go the MT stance then. I looked at the crew and said, is he for real? He then said, if you look over at them again, within 3secs, you'll be on your ass. So, being smart and all, I looked over at them, then back at him, then said, now what? I dont think he expected that. So, he starts throwing his ZDK bullshit slaps at me, thats when i jumped to life and began blocking and parrying. He went to a boxers stance again, and I fook saoed his hands and punched his face repeatedly. This is where I showed him I knew more than muay thai. He started advancing so i kicked his shin. Then gave him an inside leg kick. Then I started backing off a bit and let him hunt me down. He was pressing forward til BAM! I struck him in the chest, wing chun punch and knocked him 5ft backwards into a bin. What gave this punch force was my footwork. I used a boxers footwork to explode into range as i struck him and as he was moving forward, doubling the force of impact. Suffice to say, he didnt fuck with me afterwards, but yea, incorporating different footwork can enhance wing chun. Peace

[@52blocksinfo]

its an instrumental l track done by my student KINGSHON

[@bartitsulab]

I practice Aikido and Wing Chun and have since the 90s. Every thing your saying about angles rings true with my own experiences.

[@lasttransmissions]

I think you are right about the long range game. The reason for that is that Wing Chun in its philosophy seems to be more like Aikido, which means that you are waiting for people to attack you. If we are talking long range, the movements in Wing Chun should give you some good abilities to dodge and deflect attacks. And I think you are correct when you say that at that point you can even close the gap and dish out, if you have to.

[@52blocksinfo]

i can go with that,it makes sense as far as what i have been saying about wc in close range works better

[@DreamBoulevard]

Wing chun is in close fighting. It uses footwork (bridging the gap) and grabbing and pulling your opponent off balance to bring them in close. It was interesting that I stopped the video at 2.11 because that is what reminded me to mention grabbing your opponents wrist/forearm and pulling them into your strikes and locks.

[@mrmushin1]

The question is why there is a article in inside Kung Fu written by grandmaster steve Lee swift where he states vast majority of combat situations occur at close quarters

[@TopoftheLineTraining]

Hey brother I agree with you everything I do is from boxing base, then adding different elements such as Thai box, wing chun, kali, I started looking into 52 blocks, back in the day but didn't see, but now I see, thank you for all the info and the sharing God Bless!

[@52blocksinfo]

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[@tomsaliba3099]

How about a side punch followed by quickly moving in? The side punch allows you to bridge the gap and get a first shot in, whether it connects or not isn't really important because it gives you time to move in to a more favourable range.

[@AllForManKind77]

Two thumbs for the explanation. Thx u very much.

[@52blocksinfo]

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[@52blocksinfo]

i like what jose grados does,and i love chi gerk,and chi gerk def works better in the shorter range,thanks for the support,and i checked your channel same here KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK...LGD

[@oldras]

Wing Tsun is not about fighting. It is about not fighting. If someone starts a long range fight, just leave, you don't have to fight if the aggressor isn't close up.

[@cardiomanify]

I think Wing Chun is great for gaining advantageous hand positions (control) in grappling (Muay Thai clinch, Judo, freestyle wrestling). Gaining the feel and the flow of how the opponent's hands may move. Clinch fighting, inside fighting.

[@52blocksinfo]

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[@grantedfornow]

This is a sober and thoughtful conversation of the art. In my own limited experience, even techniques that are used by other styles in the mid and long ranges (i.e. front kick, or arrow punch in the mainland strains) are best used by Wing Chun players in the close range. But I think it is to easy to over look an important idea in Mr. Burly's analysis; regardless of whether or not someone could use Wing Chun in the long range the majority of Wing Chun training IS in the short range. Cheers.

[@52blocksinfo]

AND your conversation LACKS motivation so we are THRU HERE

[@LFJ]

Any holes Bruce Lee may have found in Wing Chun were actually holes in his learning. He didn't complete even half the system. As Bruce Lee's WC teacher Wong Shun Leung said, I paraphrase: "someone who hasn't spent enough time with a teacher... will want to add something else to the style that he thinks is better for the sake of not knowing."

[@zark212]

WC is based on a simplified system with many underlying principles. Its this "Simple" approach which makes it super efficient and adaptable to various body sizes and gender. There are ways in WC to "Bridge the gap" through footwork and speed - Not by putting the body "Off balance" and flamboyancy. I am not condoning other styles and I have trained in them myself. Wc relates to a structured way of fighting and operating within ones own physical make up - not out reaching it.

[@52blocksinfo]

off the top of my head the JAB....the long lead right hand etc...

[@dorgoron]

I find your observation valid and true, even more becouse of my training in wing chun. The "long range" in wing chun is kicks and using the pole. Other than that: wing chun IS a "close quarters game" that holds importance on "closing the gap". Good video!

[@769roadhog]

This is great stuff! You clearly have an understanding of the differences between the "Martial" vs. the "Art". For those who don't understand, this is the beginning of the conversation and not the end. Well done

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE...LGD

[@52blocksinfo]

even if the aggressor can hit from long range..but hey you are right bout learning to fight is learning how not to fight..but that doesn't stop the fights from coming you will still have to choose your battles

[@nightfire4107]

I practiced wing chun for quite some time & respect the art. However, this guy does me a good point so I give him respect.

[@ramrod20042000]

When these Wing Chun guys get into a real fight. All that bullshit go out the window and they revert to throwing wild heymaker punches.

[@emachines390]

guys, part of being a martial artist is opening your mind to things that are true/untrue, useful/un-useful. wing chun was made to attack from a short distance with the most efficiency. but don't let yourself be boxed in by just wing chun, learn other styles and arts that help fill the gaps of wing chun. there isn't one art that covers everything, thats why we have mix martial arts. broaden your knowledge of martial arts instead of arguing about them

[@mr.enigma4475]

Wing-Chun seems to put all its eggs in one basket and almost banks on not having to be prepared to encounter an experienced fighter, as well as anticipating an easy win. Which can be a great detriment

[@52blocksinfo]

factz

[@52blocksinfo]

THANK YOU...truest words ever spoke...LGD

[@sifuredmond]

That was Jerry's first full contact fight. The other guy fought once before.

[@mortem-vm2gl]

Master Wong In Action Using Wing Chun 52 blocks is crazy awesome man, check this out though, particularly the Biu Ji segment

[@sifuredmond]

The term long range is a misnomer. You're either in range to strike or you're not.

[@astillero711]

I see what you trying to say and it does make sense since you're talking about straight punches however kicks are utilized in WC. Legs are natural long weapons. The height of a kick doesn't decide whether or not it's a long range attack. Length does. Slant and front kicks can be delivered from long, medium, short and extremely short distances, depending on skill, due to the fact that legs are longer than arms. Good WC doesn't chase, it places. Nice control of the hands most schools miss that

[@xSnoweyexp]

Ive been doing wing chun and judo myself for quit some time now and there is some truth in your words. Thats why different type of fighters should fight against each other so they can learn from each other. Boxers have great footwork and technique while a wing chunner stands still waiting for someone to attack. Wing chun is for self defense and believe me you will kill someone on the streets with wing chun. It has some very mean short fast stuff in it. But if you wanna fight a boxer that eats blocks for breakfast you gotta change your wing chun yes. Wing chun is great but its like playing guitar , if you wanna make an impression to a great amount of people u gotta adapt some different styles into your playing. Same with martial arts if you wanna make a change to different type of fighters you gotta learn how they fight so you wont get knocked out unexpected

[@52blocksinfo]

+xSnoweyexp EXCELLENT RESPONSE

[@52blocksinfo]

i checked them out looks alright,but still no long range and the video on the uppercut to hook trap may not work against a boxer thats really letting them go especially the hook its one of boxing most dangerous punches,but do not misunderstand the video as i said before im two years in a row chi-sao champion wing-chun works just not at a long range.thanks for the comments

[@MCBosmans]

The man from the video seems to have little idea what the Wooden Dummy is about. (Then again, waaay to many Wing Chunners are sadly mistaken too). The dummy is never made to represent a human. If a dummy was meant to represent a human it would at least look like a human. The Chinese knew their arts and they made an army of terracotta soldier sculptures over 2000 years ago. The arms of the dummy represent different angles of attack in seperate situations. It's mostly so that the practitioner can train the right structure and posture of the body when he hits something that gives feedback, and one can also train the synchronisity of action, making sure the body works as one unit.

[@52blocksinfo]

i disagree the dummy has two arms i do believe thats is to represent the man you are going to be fighting,you totally lost me on this one,im with getting a little abstract but to say there wing-chun dummy is not suppose to represent a man then What is it for,thats like saying a heavy bag is not intended to represent the person you are going to be hitting..so it seems you know nothing about wing-chun and to add i WAS the wing-chun chi-sao champ two years in a row hot about you where have you taken your wing-chun???

[@Cakardic]

52blocksinfo hey 52blocks, i apreciate your videos.. you make people think about what they are actually training... but the truth is, you are wrong about the dummy... the dummy does kind of look like a human.. but it is only to perfect technique... on the dummy you can completely focus on full body synchronization... yes, we in ving tsun, do also torque the body with a punch.. but not as much as a boxer... the dummy is all about making your techniques sharper and harder, since the dummy is made of hard material... but if you wanna learn to fight truly.. you gotta spar alot... the dummy is only a small part of training to sharpen the movements.. oh and please do consider.. that most people who talk about wing chun... dont know much... 99% of videos on youtube of wing chun.. is all very very bad structure.... search youtube for Philipp Bayer... you will clearly see the difference

[@MCBosmans]

52blocksinfo I think you mean to say that you should hit a punching bag as if it is a human, so that you have the right intention to hit with power, I get that and I agree. You can't pretend that a punching bag is a person who is attacking you, and neither is a dummy. The way you put it in the video made me think you meant to say that a dummy does that. Both a punching bag and the dummy are tools in their own respect to help us develop in certain aspects of our training. Dummies are not about movement sequences or anything. It is to be seen abstract. Like you said, nobody goes around sticking out their arms and walking like that. Isn't it a bit rash to assume that I know nothing about Wing Chun based on just that? I have taken up my Wing Chun at the VTKFAE from Philipp Bayer, student of Wong Shun Leung. :)

[@Cakardic]

52blocksinfo thats also the reason that people who train the dummy with full speed.. have no idea what they are doing... perfect practice makes perfect.... if you wannna train speed.. train with a partner... dummy is only to perfect technique, so that next time, when you try to punch or anything.. you move the whole body as one

[@52blocksinfo]

MCBosmans i think the point is being missed,we are not talking about sparring and no a bag or a wing-chun dummy is not a person.we all know that but what all these tools represent is the opponent you plan to be hitting..if what your saying is true then why shadow box???? there is no real opponent but the exercise is about you imagining a opponent..the same with the bag the same with the dummy..when you tan-sao the dummy and kick that is a tech you are working on to use,on a person..when you hit the double end bag you are building accuracy to hit real people,these are the things you do before sparring

[@Kgirard823]

Really good way of looking at Wing Chun. Very insightful & "Bruce Lee" like. Gotta understand what certain arts can & cant do. Accept the useful, reject the useless, then add what is your own. Been studying/training in boxing, JKD, wing chun & now the 52. LOVE the 52 block system & how in continues to evolve and remain effective. The 52 needs to be much more recognized!! RESPECT...

[@52blocksinfo]

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[@samuk9]

you know your shit man.. am inspired.. i hope some "my wing chun is a killing art" guys would come to their senses before they get killed in a real street fight.

[@matthiasrohkostkanal6406]

Your absolutly right about it. I used to train Wing Tsun for 9 years in Europe when I used to be younger, and its very difficult to deal with a good boxer as long as he stays outside the "wing tsun" comfort zone, witch is exactly like you described. The WT solution is the very fast forthcoming (i am not sure if its correct english), means to use very fast footwork, to close the gap and to get into the "comfort zone". Is the Boxer skilled, and fast, its highly difficult to get there. I think its a good idea to merge WC / WT with boxing, and in fact, its a Chinese boxing art.

[@DT3TheBoonMan]

Matthias Rawfood Lifestyle Kanal you just wasn't that good at wing chun

[@EffectiveArts]

I'm a Wing Chun Practitioner and you're right... Loved your video btw!!!

[@brinkleee3000]

Shedding some LYTE on the Subject! ;-)

[@johntak9]

wing chun specialists in short range, but they do have long range attack!

[@52blocksinfo]

yea i have seen some of hie vids pretty good..but they don't cover long range

[@unboundwarrior1]

Actually Wing Chun does have one long range weapon and that is the Dragon Pole . what u mean to say is that Wing Chun doesn't have any long range techniques right ?

[@52blocksinfo]

what you said is one of the reasons most people,don't take wing-chun seriously,are you telling me when in gauge with your opponent your singing the wing-chun philosophy in your head,what if nothing comes do you just stand there,the point of the video is wing-chun has no long range game,NOT that wing-chun doesn't work up close,if wing-chun kick are not suppose to rise above the waist how do pull that off outside the gap??

[@52blocksinfo]

all fighting is step by step unless your not fighting

[@52blocksinfo]

no disrespect... people if your going to comment a tleast know the fundamentals of fighting...ANYTHING that has to close the gap needs TO BE CLOSE QUARTERS. wing-chun pak,lop work better in close range,where if you had to counter the jab with a pak you are close enough to throw off the right hand counter if you try the same move outside the gap...pak the jab you will eat the counter.and the wing-chun theory of receive ,follow,strike...IS about closing the gap not staying on the outside

[@Erev0s666]

I really like how you acknowledge w/c effectiveness. It is a combat system, you don't HAVE to fight that way even if you are trained at it, when you are in a fight what you use is your understanding and your personal expression of what you have been trained to do. there are various techniques for closing "the gap" and boxing uses a few of those, maybe someone who is doing w/c know how to do it, maybe he does not, that is up to the fighter. Great Video, Cheers!!

[@52blocksinfo]

i think you just proven my point,bruce took up boxing because of the limits he seen in wing-chun,thats why he came up with jkd which he did say is not a STYLE,but his own personal expression,an boxing works well long range,medium range,an short range,an if wing chun has long range weapons what are they?

[@malice2510]

I'm a wing chun guy and he's right in what he says. Wing Chun is close quarter combat. Something like Taekwondo is long range, boxing seems like it would be in between to me. Not sure why there's so much beef about this? +52blocksinfo

[@BrianMcComas1978]

Lol Wing Chun dominates at Close Quarters combat. Nobody argues that. What LB is ignorantly claiming is that WC only is close range and he claims it has no Long Range attacks lol. Yet on this video when he explains the ranges, look what LB does...lol he closes the gap. Just like Wing Chun does. But LB thinks WC doesn't do this. He doesn't know of the kicks or Bui Strike clearly because LB has no Wing Chun training. Don't believe me, go see his other videos. They are hilarious as he claims to do Wing Chun moves as he doesn't do any thing resembling those moves lol

[@chrisallistar8007]

Mr 52 blocks.Wing chun arm range is not long our kicks are.That's the dis advantage of boxing or hands alone. I'm not trying to debate style here because I've both boxed and practice wing chun.You seem like a real cool brother,check out global wing chun.There is an NY master from Williams liniage.Ps Stop messing with Izzo he knows nothing.

[@52blocksinfo]

i would love to see the vid that shows them i will check it out,an izzo is cool with me

[@chrisallistar8007]

We've all seen bruce lee and his kicks are wing chun kicks, he didn't elevate his legs until he met the likes of chuck,ed parker,bill, etc. Acting is acting.Incase there's some misunderstanding i appriciate what you do because i've done it in prison, same theories not to show what style i am and create gaps using western boxing evasion, norton style.I call this JKD not 52 blocks but to each his own.Izzo is just advice in growth not as an individual i'm sure he's cool.

[@mightymeatmonsta]

I agree. He is a modified guy who doesn't have a clue to what he is doing. Some of the stuff he teaches and his cousin, from Indy wing chun, are not knowledgeable enough to know the proper techniques.

[@yeetman4953]

Oblique kicks are not long range

[@andrewferris4539]

They are relative to punching distance, the only longer range kicks possible are the Thai Lead Teep to the stomach or the leg, all that matters is that it's an effective distance control tool regardless of the "range" you want to assign it to.

[@aceleeroy]

I think the guy is right and feel that Wing Chun was developed as a supplement to other arts. This is why it blends so nicely into other arts. I think it was designed for this purpose and was never intended to be used by itself. A JKD expert will give a WC expert a very hard time. WC is one denominational, too many fixed positions, but works well for the range it is intended for, the problem is getting there. You cant cross the gap the same way every time.

[@52blocksinfo]

and remember i'm talking about wing-chun not JKD,but thanks for the constructive comment...LGD

[@xa25ja]

Your scenario here goes against the basic Wing Chun principal: "Receive what comes, follow what leaves, strike when open." Your demonstration doesn't "receive what comes" but rushes forward rather sloppily. This is a caricature or misrepresentation of Wing Chun. Wing Chun has complex footwork. I've training in Ip Ching Wing Chun for nearly 10 years. The jab would be hit with a pak sau, lop sau, or low kick and chain punches when "closing the gap" (using footwork to move in for the attack).

[@CJ-uf6xl]

Absolute respect to you guys. Subbed.

[@52blocksinfo]

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[@yeetman4953]

@@GhostCrowGamer there is no validity in your statement

[@RebelRyanP]

Cool vid bro, I agree and would like to add that Wing Chun is designed for close range and CAN ONLY WORK when the fighter can maintain composure. Without composure you're just slapping around. That goes for all styles, though I believe Wing Chun is especially susceptible since you MUST be comfortable in close range AND pull off techniques flawlessly... It is VERY HARD to do in practice. A few things I love about Wing Chun: They make it a point to teach about center line and angles. I like how they teach about the 4 ranges. I also think the way they teach stepping is unique and effective (I call it Conscious Stepping). Plus they practice south-paw and orthodox at the same time, which I think is a huge benefit. I also like the idea of throwing counter attacks (with 2 hands / 1 hand, 1 foot) simultaneously. It's really hard to pull it off but maybe with enough practice it could have potential...

[@lancelee1382]

Wing Chun was ' nt made for long range , more for close range . Either you attack the wing chun man or the wing chun man attacks you .

[@52blocksinfo]

THE MAIN POINT...of the video is wing-chun has no long range game because its not a complete art,BOXING is not a complete art,MT is not a complete art,an wrestling is not a complete art,the key is to take what works from all of them... one art covers another..we have all found out it makes no sense to practice in just one art if you plan to compete or FIGHTin real life situations...

[@52blocksinfo]

SO true...the weapons form can add the range

[@XNOW716]

LB ur soo right! WC is CQC period. MMA uses WC but they don't know it, its called "Dirty Boxing" WC really is just "Technical Infighting" You can even compare the old Boxing stance to a WC stance.

[@sammy-zd1qv]

i agree wid u hundred percent wingchun is close range fighting but majority of the times when ur in a fight you'll be fighting in close range anyway

[@52blocksinfo]

what,,how you figure last time i checked my legs were longer then my arm...you can be in kicking range and not in punching range you can be in kicking range but not grabbing range so once again im confuse,you said you fought before so you have to already know this...and you said you trained boxers how is that possible there is short punches and long punches...

[@52blocksinfo]

long range is a misnomer so what does mean when they say the fighter has a reach advantage is that a misnomer???/cmon on now you are not talking to someone who just started doing this...what you said makes no sense at all there is a long range just like there is a close range....

[@TheDemzlyChannel]

great teacher!

[@52blocksinfo]

so ,TRUE..that was the point i was trying to make it...you said it better...LGD

[@shaunyb0i]

another great one sir but i have a question, what is that song you have playing in the background?

[@jalidav1]

I do agree that a boxer will always have that range advantage because they have a lead shoulder, where as wing chun is square on pretty much, would you suggest I select a lead shoulder to give my punch a few more inches outside of range then maybe square up as I close in? Thank you so much for taking the time to reply, any ingo I can get would be a great help

[@freebirdisfree]

wing chun kicking is the long range weapon it is more sophisticated than tae kwon do

[@52blocksinfo]

ok if you have he facts where are they..we can start with videos

[@21dwc215]

Agreed you need to form your style of fighting. And use Wing Tsun as a secondary way to attck and defend

[@davidherron9151]

if you are at a range that you need to reach a long jab , then wing chun kicks you in the knee the groin the hip or the thigh hard enough to prevent you reaching , there is no use for the hands at that range ?

[@FWilliamsFTCC]

You could use that technique to set up takedowns and throws too. I gotta try that.

[@LeiTai27]

hey fighterman, I'd love to see a response video from you on this subject and hear your insights! not sure if you've already touched this matter in one of your vids... peace

[@52blocksinfo]

you don't train your boxers to use wing-chun in the ring,so im confuse with your comment,the video is not about do you train boxers?you said you trained with boxers when you were kickboxing,not using you wing-chun against a boxer,the video is about wing-chun not having a long range game....

[@52blocksinfo]

10 years old by responding to him.. for acting like a girl you two must train at the same fantasy gym..he got on my page and left the comment up till now i didn't know he existed and it plain to see his feelings are hurt by what i said if he believed in his wing-chun was correct he wouldn't even had to bother to leave a comment

[@NullnVoidDnv]

Well if you look closely at the concepts (cause wing chun is theory) its more Self-Offense than Self-Defense. Its efficient and straight to the point. Seven times out of ten the WC guy is being attacked. So Move in, stick to the guy and attack the center. All the hands have forward intent to cut in and make a path to assault the persons center

[@sifuredmond]

I'm not posting training clips of fighters here. Also, you never hear me say one style is better than another. There are good and bad fighters in all styles.

[@jalidav1]

Love this comment, I have been studying Wing Chun for a few years now and I do totally agree that it does lack a long range game when compared to the likes of boxing, kickboxing, tae kwon do etc, but I do think you did the straight blast some injustice because against a fighter leading like your man did, you threw the wrong hand ;) you want to go through the centre of his guard right? I do have a question though how do you train long range sensitivity when there is no bridge?

[@SDSOverfiend]

Even bruce acknowledged the range is short and style is limited.. The second thing he learned was boxing to fill in the gaps of footwork and movvement rather than sitting still.

[@DavidGSmyth]

As a Wing Tsun teacher I agree with most of your criticisms about WC/WT. Not that there is not log range WC. Wing Tsun is chinese boxing and there is lots of angle search, steps, lines of attack etc. But 99% of what you can see out there is crap. So I understand completely that you arrive to that conclusion. I hope in a few years time, with people like Alan Orr or many other who are trying to show WC with actions not just words you get to see that there is much more to WC that what's in youtube. I like your videos keep them coming.

[@52blocksinfo]

SALUTE,THKX FOR REACHING OUT..LGD

[@52blocksinfo]

question me this,what is the problem with wing-chun not having a long range does that somehow put down a art thats has always been built to be a close range down?????,close range is where strikes have more power,i am still baffled by how many people who want you to believe wing-chun does everything..

[@52blocksinfo]

so,after all the run around just like i thought he can only prove it with lip service...LMAO..the kung-fu fantasy continiues

[@grantedfornow]

That’s fair. I also agree that Wing Chun must be used close and does the most damage, respectively, inside it's optimal range. As an adherent of Wing Chun, or of any other art, the point is to get people to play your game. Wing Chun does have subjectively longer and shorter ranges. However, this video is about a longer range than Wing Chun’s longest range (the crash). Cheers.

[@52blocksinfo]

sugar ray robinson was known for long right hand bombs...he used it to defeat and keep at bay....many opponents,and if you train boxers you know the jab dosen't have to land its a range finder,,it can keep the other man from jumping in thus keeping the range matter fact mark breland...had a long right hand bomd that was nullified when starlon marlon got under his guard you know close range...long range does exist,but hey once again i thought you knew this

[@DecipherBorn]

Excellent video. I agree 100% ....Whats the name of the song playing btw?? Peace.

[@SuperBlacksuit]

How can I teach myself 52 at home? I got a punch bag, gloves and a decent background in boxing and street fighting. Is it possible to learn it myself without any instructor?

[@52blocksinfo]

do you have any videos on the footwork for me to check out

[@FightStrategistMMA]

Trill talk @ 1:29- 1:31, You're correct about taking that angle to create the space to hit @ 1:45. I aslo find useful in Wing Chun that they use one hand to block or parry attacks. This blocks and parries are important to know when fighting because you always don't have time to block with two hands. There's a wing chun master I follow on youtube who's an excellent teacher. His youtube name is 138mws, check him out LB, I know you'll find his info useful!!