Much Abrew: Mardu Octomancer (Modern, Magic Online)

[@mrbobtehbuildah]

25:06 *seth has a chance to discard a bad blood moon* 15 seconds later 25:21 *mentions that this blood moon isn't great* seth momemt

[@phatbastard0alkaline]

26:45 Seems like he boards them in to gain value from Seasoned Pyromancer , since you can discard them haha.

[@Sn0wdN]

"Blood Crapt" Tell us how you really feel seth.

[@imcohencohen]

Will Snow this is the second time this month seth has accidentally said a dirty word instead of the name of a card

[@imcohencohen]

Bitch from below

[@ItsDKoda]

@@imcohencohen to be fair, that is a very appropriate name

[@ScaredMotion]

@@imcohencohen Which video/time?

[@crawdaddy1234]

I guess it’s the logical follow-up to Badlands.

[@MikeB-dn5li]

“That’s right, there’s an Ashiok. We’re not smart” Between this and the “Blood Crapt” I’m dying. Quality content. Love it

[@SharpFinch]

That fancy play against the restoration angel was absolutely beautiful, hot dang

[@TheMMCast]

Agreed. Sick line of play there, Seth!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks!

[@___ooobodybagooo___]

Hot dang

[@adaephon412]

Hot diggety doo

[@deathpyre42]

Btw, you can also use Yawgmoth's proliferate to prevent thing from ever flipping

[@molded_potato_8442]

How?

[@deathpyre42]

@@molded_potato_8442 Because you can increase the number of ice counters on thing. So if you've got dead lands you don't need or you're screwed on white and want to flashback lingering souls, you can pitch them to the proliferate.

[@josephmatte4267]

You don't own the counters on thing though so you can't proliferate them

[@yutubelair]

@@josephmatte4267 701.26. Proliferate 701.26a To proliferate means to choose any number of permanents and/or players that have a counter, then give each one additional counter of each kind that permanent or player already has.

[@deathpyre42]

@@josephmatte4267 The mechanic is based on phyrexia spreading their infection to corrupt their enemies, specifically to amplify the effect of Infect and -1/-1 counters. By what logic would poliferating -1/-1 counters on your own creatures and giving yourself poison counters make sense in standard?

[@TraeKryzer]

"Blood moon is pretty good" says the guy running four basics against the guy that literally only runs basics.

[@x3mskbord]

two of those 4 basics are mountains so they also don't really count

[@myloglaisek5718]

Idk why I expected some kind of octopus deck using seasoned pyro but I am nearly as happy to see mardu pyro being played.

[@Logan-lz5gu]

That's what I thought too.

[@oneinfinity]

UW opponent: has 99% basics G1 Seth: "Bring in these Blood Moons, they will be fine."

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761]

Moon shuts down fetch/shock and collonade

[@arashinoguardianyeah9083]

@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761 Don't forget about field of ruin, since we have so few basics that can easily become a strip mine. Blood moon was a solid choice there, all things considered. Plus, we also had about a billion ways of looting it away if we needed to.

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761]

@@arashinoguardianyeah9083 yup. Plus it doesn't really hurt us if we know we have it in our opener since we can just fetch basics

[@arashinoguardianyeah9083]

@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761 Exactly. A plains could have been a great choice in this deck though, since we're playing blood moons in the side

[@MTGGoldfish]

We have so many Faithless Lootings in the deck we can easily discard Blood Moon if its bad, so it seems worth the risk. I do think a Plains would be good in the deck though.

[@zacharychanoi7544]

First Game: 5:17 Have a good week folks.

[@___ooobodybagooo___]

Plz dont tell me what to do

[@SlipknotSAW40]

All I want is Modern videos from you Seth. That’s it. Thank you for this.

[@MTGGoldfish]

I'm been having a ton of fun playing Modern lately :)

[@Vininn126]

It's old, if it dies, it's fine.... Just kidding I love old people. Can we add this to the Seth Quote list? Man that's some funny stuff

[@johnp2921]

Opponent draws 1 card. "I don't know how we can come back from this"

[@JT-91]

The deck also needs some combo of fullminator mage in the MB or SB with unearth the card is godly

[@ryancrouch813]

I agree, that Tron game perfectly explained why Fulminator should be at least in the sideboard.

[@dudeofvalor9294]

Fulminator into Unearth VS tron sounds pretty sweet.

[@johnp2921]

1 in the main would be fine too There are lots of lands running around that are worth hitting. Colonnade, blast zone, manlands, ghost quarter, Tron lands

[@JT-91]

I'd also have 1 or 2 bedlam in the deck too because there is a giant waste of gy cards that could be delved. His hand needed the draw a few times too.

[@johnp2921]

@@JT-91 bedlam probably better than yawg

[@Ghost26968]

lol, my favorite part about seth's Seasoned Pyromancer's and Faithless Lootings is that, whenever there's a Yawgmoth in his hand and its objectively the correct pitch, you can see him pause because he doesn't want to discard the draw engine XD

[@MTGGoldfish]

My love of drawing cards always gets me in trouble.

[@Borkybaby]

Thank you for using original unearth art. This makes me happy :)

[@MaNU7908]

Man, the sequence of plays around minute 33:00 is great. Thats why I love this deck so much, and I hope modern becomes more like this, mre interactive with mre fun games

[@MTGGoldfish]

It would be pretty fun if we could have more fair, interactive games in Modern. They are really interesting and fun when they happen, they just don't happen that often since there are so many unfair decks.

[@bigwig8657]

Mentor and blood moon together with 0 plains seems bold.

[@christianpena7748]

Clicked on this bc I thought it’d feature an octopus, pleasantly surprised that its a Mardu Mancer deck that includes Yawgmoth. Love it!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Glad you liked it!

[@AkodoNoEyes]

Yawgmoth put some work in!!!! Great to see that card find a home.

[@cannonspectacle5195]

I've been calling Monastery Mentor "Old Pyromancer" ever since it was spoiled, nice to see the generations in the same deck

[@Entropic_Alloy]

I've been looking at a legacy version of the list with Queen Marchesa, Cabal Therapy, and Dreadhorde Arcanist. Pitching a Cabal Therapy is value with Seasoned Pyromancer and any of your other 1 mana spells are good with Dreadhorde.

[@rossshand4385]

y the 4 mana 3/3?

[@nicklittle8399]

33:20 Now that's what I came here to see. Seth is an awesome mtg player, I love seeing lines apon lines of outplays xD

[@totalcoward]

Can I get a like from all the other peeps out there who haven’t rung the bell but know the upload schedule so well that they just show up right when a new vid drops?

[@bshell1731]

I know this life you speak of.

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761]

Yup

[@OnlyBadSalmon]

The series of events that happens at 32:45 was amazing

[@matthews2125]

I have to confess. I’ve been on a kick for another streamer. I love the videos seth. You’re an amazing source of entertainment. Thank you for being as creative and wholesome as you are. :)

[@MTGGoldfish]

Thanks!

[@samouflage99]

33:12 That was SLICK, Rick

[@TarmogoyfBlows]

Since you’re playing unearth anyway how would you feel about playing fulminator mage compared to blood moon?

[@JT-91]

the deck needs a single plaines

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, that does seem like a good plan.

[@aaronnava5656]

Agreed, the 3 Blood Moon, no basic plains plan is questionable

[@JT-91]

@@aaronnava5656 I'm not a fan of blood moon at all in tri color decks. I've been bitten by my own moon too many times. I can get away with it in dual color way easier

[@BlockishScarecrow]

I'm a long time Mardu Pyromancer player, and the one plains is a trap. It doesn't help cast anything except for the front half of lingering souls (which you discard most of the time anyways) and 2 1 of cards. I also don't really agree with Monastery Mentor but that's another thing. If you ever have the one plains in your opening hand it usually feels awful. Usually when Blood Moon is good you side out some of the white cards anyways.

[@Zarik15]

Owl Man in this version of the deck I believe you do want the basic plains. With the 3 blood moons in the side and the amount of land destruction floating around now and paths, I think it’s fine to add a single plains. I’m also a Mardu pyromancer player, but this deck is slightly different and should hit its white source from time to time. I think mentor is a good one of and can be a nice unearth target to cheat it out after discarding it.

[@travisdevries5023]

Seth, better known as I love old people Olive

[@treasureberry7154]

Really well played in game 2 against Tron Seth

[@centurosproductions8827]

I thought this was going to be about the Octoprophet, but that's not out yet...

[@thecrazycapn]

Me too. :C

[@MTGGoldfish]

Next time!

[@CL32582]

That Guildpact twist in the last game...

[@kiranearitachi]

been played this deck the last 2 weeks its sweet

[@josephblattert6311]

Thought you might try some cabal therapist in this deck :(

[@truetbird1730]

Any token deck could potentially run it, and this deck seems really good, maybe he just didn't have any room to wiggle

[@MTGGoldfish]

I with Therapist was a little bit faster. Maybe it could be worth it out of the sideboard.

[@truetbird1730]

@@MTGGoldfish or I could see it main and replace some number of Thoughtseize/IOK, and sb them for the control matches

[@jerzane5617]

That Tron player didn’t deserve to win after the second greedy keep in a row >_

[@Shuvinile]

Fulminator Mage in the sb for Tron?Also can return with Unearth.

[@arashinoguardianyeah9083]

Seth, i think you could have kept the heavy lands hands in this deck, especially against eldrazi. You have a billion ways of looting them away if you need to, and that would have minimized the impact of a lot of powerful cards in their deck like thought knot and skuller...but still, this was a very very sweet deck, i'm considering building it. Oh and also, congrats on the line against control, that was a real awesome play, and shows how good in this game you really are. Keep up the grear job!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, having a bunch of faithless looting does help make more hand keepable.

[@Houston7001]

With all the tokens being generated look at Purphorous instead of Yawg. He's an indestructible enchantment that pings your opponent for each token and also pumps them when you need it. If you get him on the board, Assassins Trophy is about the only thing that removes him in the meta right now.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Hmm, Pulphoros could be interesting. I don't we've ever turn him into a creature, but it could be a good finish.

[@Houston7001]

@@MTGGoldfish I don't think you'd ever want him to be a creature - keep him away from exile creature removal.

[@Artaimus]

I saw "Octomancer" and thought you were talking about the octopus that deals with drawing cards.

[@elliotyamamoto38]

I love this deck, it makes the opponent miserable xD

[@Toppro]

*Keeps a one lander* *loses* *shocked sethachu.*

[@tiertaco]

And opponent not drawing terminus both games got it done!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Terminus is such a blowout. Glad we dodged it.

[@RappingRain]

They may not be on Terminus.

[@kinkajuu1]

yawgmoth was pretty good in this deck, the token value and protection from wraths was highly relevant.

[@MTGGoldfish]

I'm sure we'll be playing more Yawgmoth soon, I think he's pretty underrated.

[@kincrawford7169]

Needs fulminators in the side since they are so sweet with unearth.

[@ydr4717]

anyone watch these on 2X speed? good times for all. . . .

[@TheMMCast]

1.5 but yeah :)

[@Anbennar_Guide]

I don't even know what his voice sounds like at not x2 speed. Can people stand watching mtgo that slow?

[@blitheringape5321]

@@Anbennar_Guide it's part of why I don't like it when folks play music while they're doing stuff. I can choose my own damn music and also it won't be sped up to shit. I can't even watch mtgo and x2 it's still so damn slow. I usually watch Seth at like 3.5x

[@wyattfields6896]

What do we do now that faithless looting is gone

[@toubeelo1979]

At 20:11, there was consideration to wait until your turn to Bolt the Jace in case of Force of Negation. Only downside would be that you wouldn't be able to cast Yawgmoth. Just a thought.

[@thelight288]

I don't understand? what do you mean he cant cast FoN for alternate cost on his own turn, so in bolting jace in end step seems the best timing

[@toubeelo1979]

@@thelight288 Oh, I was thinking of the other way around for some reason. My bad.

[@anaphysik]

I think you've read Force of Negation backwards. Opponent could not cast FoN there, as you can only pay its alt-cost during another player's turn, not yours.

[@AkodoNoEyes]

Saw the video and I’m disappointed that it doesn’t involve an OctopusMancer. Hahah Solid deck though. Tron match was rough!!!!

[@JJXXKK]

Match 2, Game 1 Opponent had mostly basic lands so didn't need Blood Moon

[@yannd.7248]

I was not very impressed with Blood Moons in the side. Why not some Fulminator Mages ? It's good with unearth and against tron you can surgical a tron land. Also blood moon seems a bit inefficient against UW where they play a lot of basics. If you want to shutdown the colonades fulminator is also good and limiting there mana is better than trying to mana screw them. On the other hand blood moon might be better against other decks (maybe grixis shadows for exemple) so I don't know...

[@Drakksy]

Would a split of push and path be more useful in current meta?

[@MTGGoldfish]

With Hogaak running around, perhaps. Or maybe bringing some Terminates back.

[@HardAnswers]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who gets ridiculously land screwed playing mardu pyro specifically. It seems like my most inconsistent deck with lands, which makes precisely 0 sense.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, the deck is a little light on lands and hopes to make up for it with Faithless Looting and Seasoned Pyromancer, but it doesn't always work out.

[@HardAnswers]

@@MTGGoldfish that or it works too well and you draw 5-6 lands in a row lol xD

[@jaggededge11]

Why no Saheeli? Seems like a good one off card.

[@MaNU7908]

Also, Ive seen people playing 22 lands on this deck. 20 seems very land light

[@nivmiz0]

cool deck!

[@truetbird1730]

This deck is really sweet

[@MTGGoldfish]

It is fun!

[@skylarbroughton6659]

As a fairly seasoned pyromancer player, I do not think I have ever won a match against tron. The most atrocious matchup, especially game 1. It's pretty much hopeless.

[@johnp2921]

With unearth run 4 fulminators in the 75

[@skylarbroughton6659]

@@johnp2921 that's not even worth it though. That would mean you have to take out 4 slots out of your sideboard or cards in the main that dilute your gameplan.

[@bigwig8657]

After you saw opponents greedy tron keep he cycled star and cast stirrings so he only got to look at 7 cards for a tron land and then double map, hardly greedy.

[@alicetheferrothorn3677]

The first spell in the first game was mispronounced this will be a good video

[@sebastiangomezbotero7765]

im surprised this does not run a couple kolahagans command and maybe 1 fullminator mage. nice deck tho

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, Kolaghan's Command is good, but it's less needed with Unearth (and Kaya's Guile), there are a bunch of options.

[@invisible4ever]

29:52: Opp plays Ashiok. Me FEEEEETCH, FAST!!... Seth misses... Next turn, draws the only white left in deck... never punished

[@ScaredMotion]

16:10 Why not play Leyline?

[@Obelion_]

can someone explain what the difference between "much abrew" and "much abrew about nothing" is? is seth just spoiling if the deck is good or not?

[@christiank.8807]

Whenever an opponent plays Ashiok i'm waiting for Seth to fetch something...

[@MTGGoldfish]

Oh don't worry, I'm like 100% to try to fetch into Ashiok in Modern. I won't let you down.

[@izzydd5075]

wtf *perfect description of the video*

[@TinyLegs15243]

Seth on Seasoned Pyromancer "why isn't everyone playing this card, this card is sweet". Well I am here from the future to tell you that yes, yes everyone is playing this card lol. If only you had forseen fable though lmao

[@maestergallen]

Is there a good alternative to faithless looting in this deck? Feels kinda bad when lingering souls is the only card that can profit off of it.

[@johnp2921]

Faithless looting is good even when you are just filtering

[@thomasfisk2467]

when do we get Against The Odds: Modern Horizons draft chaff?

[@JordobagginsYT]

Is the white splash really worth diluting the mana base for 2 spells?

[@MTGGoldfish]

It's pretty easy to splash in Modern, so I think the answer is yes.

[@crovax1375]

Would Geomancer's Gambit be a good sideboard option against tron? It does make a token for Young Pyromancer and Monastery Mentor

[@MTGGoldfish]

Hmm, maybe. I think Fulminator Mage is an interesting option thanks to Unearth getting it back. Also Molten Rain might just be better than Geomancer's Gambit - not sure if giving the opponent a replacement land is worth us drawing a card.

[@nickbaldwin7]

......Blood...uh....crapt?

[@jholopez1993]

I feel like a plains and maybe a GQ or two could help you out with unfair match up like tron

[@skylarbroughton6659]

Ghost quarter is pretty bad in this deck. It's not worth diluting your deck to fight tron, because your gonna lose that matchup 99% of the time regardless of what you put in.

[@jackpabich763]

This deck really needs more basics if it's playing Blood Moon. At least 1 basic plains.

[@mauricehaflinger3478]

This deck needs a redemption stream...

[@k.bularga]

Yawgmoth is a pretty sweetcard against TitI, ngl.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yawgmoth is super sweet.

[@jackpabich763]

More of these decks need a few Damping Sphere

[@MidgarMerc]

now if only blackcleave cliffs werent $40 each

[@MTGGoldfish]

They really need to reprint the rest of the fastlands.

[@cedricwestcott1852]

Why sac Mentor over Pyromancer?

[@davidstraumann2101]

Why no cabal therapist?

[@jackaprill4819]

55:17 missed lethal, just attack all

[@eugenequek6797]

can you cast seasoned pyromancer if you can't discard 2 cards?

[@skylarbroughton6659]

Yes

[@ElderVenLoL]

MTGO hurts my eyes because the text is just small enough to get blurred at the size of my computer screen. Is there no way for you to make it one font size larger? Love the content, just have trouble reading it!

[@MTGGoldfish]

Unfortunately I don't know a way to make the text bigger. I'll have to look into it though, maybe that's something I can do.

[@TommEboi]

Why no magmatic sinkhole? The delve deal 5 card

[@MTGGoldfish]

Could be good additional removal.

[@bigdamij]

Hi friends

[@MaNU7908]

This deck needs a Basic Plains definetly. It plays some more white than the basic Mardu deck frm a year ago that was more BR. Ive seen peple playing a couple of paths, or the new flashback helixes. Anyway. Having a Plains seems important in this deck

[@MTGGoldfish]

Yeah, I think traditionally a basic Plains isn't that important since Lingering Souls is usually the only main-deck white card and you can always just discard it and flash it back, but in this build we have more white cards which probably means we need a basic Plains.

[@MaNU7908]

@@MTGGoldfish Also, after many months playing the older version, I added a Plains. People know that mardu usually dont play plains, so they agresively destroy your white sources with their field of ruines and other stuff. Being able to get a plains sometimes surprises them

[@foxokon94]

If we get bannings TBH I think one of the cards they should target is faithless looting, and at that point this deck almost dies, sure it could still work, but looting is the card that holds this deck together

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche5761]

And every other deck

[@MTGGoldfish]

I think hurting decks like this is the one reason to worry about Faithless Looting. I think we want more fair decks in the format, but Faithless Looting allows for some pretty broken things from unfair decks, so it is probably worth considering for banning even if an unfortunate side effect is it hurts some fair decks.

[@johnp2921]

@@MTGGoldfish they keep printing things to make faithless looting more broken. Like arclight

[@foxokon94]

John p they keep printing graveyard cards, looting is just too powerfull of an enabler for said cards.

[@jarenherald1439]

44:21 haha what makes something “dot plan” worthy

[@Krossfyre]

"Thought-Knots, Wastelands..." Someone's been playing a lot of legacy recently. Friendlies with Vince?

[@foxokon94]

I am sad you didn't get the chance to proliferate more counters onto TiTi g1

[@MTGGoldfish]

Lol, that's a lot of work, but it could be pretty funny.

[@ethanfordford6621]

Why not 8 mancer

[@jadencawley6942]

*Wins game because of surgicals* Proceeds to take out surgicals

[@complainorgain5068]

I really wish their was a leyline against tron

[@MTGGoldfish]

Leyline of the (Blood) Moon plz.

[@complainorgain5068]

@@MTGGoldfish OMG yess but also nooooo!

[@ArkDacity]

This decks hot!

[@baileynicholson251]

Punt.

[@pablolins]

No terminates :(

[@Destabalization]

You. Cut. Surgical. AGAINST PHOENIX...

[@floorsweepings666]

no horizon lands????

[@MeldrickCz]

Before I see gameplay I call that it needs bedlam reveler.

[@benlittle5543]

"In the land of fair magic" sounds like you need more pauper in your life.

[@brunnun]

... Did that tron opponent keep a 7 card hand with one land? Dear god

[@MTGGoldfish]

The greed!