Mud Shot vs Mudrunner

Today we take a closer look at the Mud Shot from Dewalt and see how it runs
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[@chethans7491]

I bought a mudrunner because of your videos, they went up in price right after so I'm glad I got one at the right time.

[@chadallen4517]

I bought my mudrunner because of your videos lol. Actually I got into auto tool’s because of your videos and all I buy is tapetech. With that said thank you for everything you do.

[@michaelcarson4887]

I have heard other people say they are hard to load as well. But I want to say remember someone saying there is a trick to it. Good job Brother! Live from Edwardsville, Illinois

[@HandymanPros]

Thanks for the video Ray!! I always learn a lot from them.

[@michaelwilliams7031]

The mugshot just like a box you have to put water in it and slosh it around. There's holes in the back to let the water run out. Then pump up the mud runner. You'll see that it pumps up much easier

[@user-cf1se1kk5x]

Make sure the piston ring isn’t pinched inside the cylinder, also silicone spray lubricant helps. My mudshot isn’t too hard to fill, but I always elevate my pump to about 2 feet off the ground

[@kennethwilliams7731]

Check the screen at the bottom of your pump. I've discovered some trash or something restricting the mud from loading the chamber. Also remember the mudshot spring will age and weaken over time,thus making it easier to load because of less resistance!

[@damianenslow3141]

hey when i first got my mud shot i was sad like only i buy tools that don’t work well i got sick of it and if you adjust the nuts where you fill it and where it comes out you can fix how hard it fills and if it’s not coming out right hope it helps

[@MegaDavyk]

I found if you wet and lubricate the piston both sides before you start and use your weight on the pump its not so bad. The first time I used mine I did 99 internal angles in 4 hours including one break which was OK I thought. I am old now and had to go home for a sleep but was still pretty happy about it, just wish I had it 20 or 30 years ago..

[@thomasburr9244]

I just found a barley used tape tech mud runner with a pump on Craigslist , got it for 100 bucks I’m stoked

[@mjjackaroos112]

Sounds like its stolen😳

[@jeffreyhalet9632]

I just purchased a Mudshot, was hard to pump fill the first time so I called Level5 , they said to lube gaskets with 3 in 1 oil because the tube was dry, once I adjusted the flow it worked very well. Like any new tool, have to learn the little tricks.

[@ryankunz4579]

Personally I’ve used the mudshot ive ran about 1,000 sheets with it and it still is very hard to pump up. I use 3 in 1 oil ,silicone and it makes it a little easier but still to hard to pump up. I bought a whole dewalt set and for the price I’m very disappointed. I should’ve went with tape tech.

[@alanwoodriff4132]

Mud runner works with the gas pressure in the handle. Have to twist the handle to cause mud to flow. Works except only one side of the handle is knurled, the other side is smooth. With any mud on your hands, it will slip. Contacted tape tech and they assured me both sides were knurled. Apparently the 2 I’ve had were special! Been sitting on the shelf for 3 years

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

I can twist the handle either way it makes no difference.

[@maxgilbert18]

Wanna sell it? ​@@alanwoodriff4132

[@emmanuelraymond8983]

I use the mudshot with a columbia pump and works amazing, and not all that stiff to pump.

[@Ocanadakiter]

Same here tall boy pump. Lots of leverage so no problem pumping.

[@kamilknych7301]

Please can you write something more about mudshot ?

[@mjjackaroos112]

Oil it up and add a little water in the back when pumping it up, itll loosen up after a few uses.

[@mr.kenslifeshop4034]

My compound tube works like a syringe. Are you sure that you aren't filling it wrong? I just watched another video they used a dewalt pump and it took about three pumps to fill it and they didn't look like an easy pump. It dont hold much mud for the cost either.

[@motoxwoog6781]

The hernia box, 3 m celings are brutal!

[@CakesBerry]

Hernia box 😂

[@kirkdunn1379]

The hole where mud goes in is probably thinner, in parts are new and lil bit sticky, or cable.....didn't get cleaned well? Can only be a few variables..... Holding more mud is a plus......should just make a bazooka with angle head attachment

[@fr8trainUS]

Pop the tube and spray it with bazooka oil or silicone spray

[@texas77563]

im a property flipper. I just got my first angle heads. they only had the angle box and it was to to expensive to buy with a pump. so for now i put mud in the corner with a toilet bowl brush and set the tape in and then put a little mud on top with the brush and then use the 2.5" angle head to smooth it out with just a pole. im gonna try to do the same thing with the 4" angle head and brush for the second coat. i dont do production work so this will be easy to do and clean and maintain.

[@ProbeGT2]

I was about too order a mud shot but that painful pumping worries me. I think i'll stick with my good old blueline seringe. I've ordered a graco battery powered pump and i wonder if the mud shot would kill the motor, being so hard to pump...

[@kamilknych7301]

i have the same worries

[@joelvandenbergh2851]

Are the tapetech angel heads compatibel with the dewalt mud shot? Kind regards

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

Yes

[@DanMarcelino]

What is the range like compared to your regular angle box? Like how many more angles can you get between reloads?

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

It adds more mud to the angles 1-1/2×

[@DanMarcelino]

@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 ok thanks 👍🏼 nice video by the way

[@artisticdrywall7368]

Wow

[@artisticdrywall7368]

I best I can fill that thing with my apla pump

[@joelvandenbergh2851]

Question: Are the tapetech anglegeads compatibel with the mud shot

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

Yes

[@joelvandenbergh2851]

Ok i ve just starting taping angles : I use the bazooka then the corner roller and then I use the 2,5 inch angle head to wipe the corners: Goes very well and smooth but sometimes the angle head seems to get stuck while wiping. Notice that the mud is very thin? So what’s causing that? Olso to finish the corners I wanted to order the 3.5 “ or is it better to order a wider anglehead? Kind regards

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

The three inch is fine too.

[@tangleberry88]

I've got a question. The mudshot is gas assisted right? So what gas do I use to fill it up when it runs out and how do I fill it up please?

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

They are sealed you can't do anything except have it rebuilt

[@tangleberry88]

@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 Thanks for you response. How long will it last until it gets to that point? I think I'm leaning more towards getting the mud runner now.

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

I've had my mudrunner many years and it still work

[@maxgilbert18]

By gas assisted, they are referencing a sealed gas prop rod, similar to what closes a storm door only in reverse.

[@kidjetrecon7153]

Mud-runner needs the rubber on the handle with out it very hard to turn the handle.

[@dieseldes1301]

Hey doc I bought a mud runner because of your vids but the problem I’m having is when filling it the mud comes out of the end ,I have to take the angle head off and tap the the end against a stud wall to stop it have you had this problem ?

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

No is it clean? Take a picture and email me [e-mail]

[@dieseldes1301]

@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 it’s always cleaned and oiled but the stopper won’t reach the end after one fill ,I can’t see a way of adjusting it .if It tap on the end against something hard I can fill it again which is no good so I’ve been using my angle box again.if you’ve got any ideas it would be much appreciated thanks for replying btw🙏

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

I'm going to post another comment here of another video that I did with the mud Runner

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4bJanmdqbSIg6M In the way you see me take the mudrunner apart is the only way I ever take the mudrunner apart.

[@dieseldes1301]

@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 I watch all your videos doc I’m a big fan so I do all the things in that video it doesn’t stop the problem but thanks for coming back to me it’s really appreciated .I’m sure I’ll come up with a solution because when it was working it was a dream to use thanks again for your time🙏🙏👍👍

[@treashurehunter800]

Surprised they haven't made a cordless power tool mud pump.they did grease guns.derp.

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

They do it's battery operated

[@jeffreyhalet9632]

They did however say to NOT use WD 40 because it will dry out seals over time.

[@DylanSpencer.270]

Ya got to replace seals overtime anyway

[@fatcat-hc4pj]

Mine is not hard at all to pump up make sure the vent holes on the bottom are all clear

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

That's where I oiled it they were clear

[@nbco55]

I wonder if the oil actually created the seal for making the back pressure not release?

[@Nick_Sorenson]

What make is the angle head? Columbia?

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

Tape tech and Drywall master

[@sissywalker1955]

Graco has an automated pump, I wonder if it has enough pressure to fill mud shot?

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

It might

[@timstrausbaugh3012]

It definitely does. That's why I bought one. I fell in love with my Graco pump.

[@omarzepeda7475]

@@timstrausbaugh3012 How is the graco pump holding up? I’m considering buying one for my dewalt mudshot but it worries me that it’s going to kill the motor with the pressure! Hand pumping 82lb of pressure it’s hard doing it all day

[@timstrausbaugh3012]

@@omarzepeda7475 It's holding up really well. I haven't had any problems with it at all. The impressive thing to me is how long it lasts on one battery. Maybe it's just me but I kinda thought pumping up that MudShot would wear down a battery pretty quick. That's not the case at all. Now I'm getting older and ain't putting out as much production as my younger days but it has held up and I'm still really impressed with it.

[@omarzepeda7475]

@@timstrausbaugh3012 Thanks for the response! I been trying to buy the graco pump for a few months but I wasn’t sure if it was capable to load the mudshot or maybe it’s just me that finds it super hard to pump it manually

[@akerka3]

Hello. I'm one of the people, who bought mudrunner after your videos. But one question disquiets me: I noticed, in the last third of stroke the pressure is very weak. It's so weaker than in first two thirds, that easier to load again. Is it normal for all mudrunners or something is wrong with my one? In your videos I don't see a such behavior in your device.

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

My first mudrunner was that way I was told the pressure seal it's going bad this is a new mudrunner that was just given to me because they didn't like it and it works perfectly

[@kirkdunn1379]

Open the nut up all the way when pumping mud into machine than close it fir application.....which would still be frustrating, lol

[@sethmann3306]

my mudshot has become a lot easier to fill after using it for a year. I think they are just a little stiff when they are new

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

That makes sense

[@alvarodiaz8112]

Thin mud or thick mud it's not the problem it's the cylinder it's hard to push

[@neboknenim9429]

It gets easia 2 fill afta a cuppla jobs

[@mattsivert2594]

I got 30 years. Never touched a tool I always been by hand. Now that I'm 52 I'm really considering buying a tool kit or go truck driving. I don't know lol

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

I'm 62 in a couple weeks you have many more years in front of you.

[@mattsivert2594]

@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 noooooo

[@septimo82]

The problem with this awesome tool is, there's not information o part for fix it. My mudshot it going weaknesses

[@kamilknych7301]

can you write something more ?

[@louish.9414]

Not one drywall contractor has video on angles.

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ3RXmaIhpmais0

[@alvarodiaz8112]

I buy DeWalt mud shot and it's hard to pump I don't recommend

[@jessedavis2355]

wd-40 in the tube, itll pump easier

[@kurtdvogeljr]

Screw that pumping that looks awful.. what’s better the mud runner or that Dewalt?

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

I'm a mudrunner fan. I can control the amount of mud by how much I turn the handle.

[@fr8trainUS]

Stick with it for a job or two, it will break in

[@joelvandenbergh2851]

Hello sir; what you mean with it will break in. I m from Belgium so I don’t understand everything. Kind regards Joël

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

Sometimes it's stuff and will run smoother after you use it a few times

[@jerrodcowlishaw]

@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 did it get easier to fill the mud shot after a couple times? I’m wanting either the mud runner or shot but haven’t decided which one yet

[@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1]

Not for me but my pump is very old.